A tutorial showing how to replace the locking block on a 92/96 series pistol from Beretta. Visit our TH-cam channel ( / berettacommunity ) for more how-to videos
I have 92A1 with maybe 500 rounds through it and the block can slide out without the pin removed. Its not easily removable but it does get wedged and can be frustrating at times
You can in fact remove the locking block without removing the pin! In fact several of my 92’s the locking block will sometimes fall out when I’m cleaning the gun!
Can I recommend that you guys do some close-up shots of what you're talking about with the Locking block and the pain and exactly how you're supporting it. Thank you, David.
For such a video, a close, detailed view is necessary! I can't believe the poor quality of instruction in this video as a result of the omission of close-up shots of what is being done.
@He101A We don't think that's the case. While there will be some degredation of the rifling at 20k-30k rounds, it would be so slight that most would be hard-pressed to notice. A 25-yard group might (literally "might") open up from 2" to 2.10" or 2.20". In most service pistols, firing standard ammunition, the last part to be visibly affected is generally the rifling.
I have found that most average quality video cameras can be used a short distance from the subject and can actually be focused. Maybe audio only instructions might be easier to produce next time. Was the Beretta corporation actually behind this?
That's funny, last year I bought an M9a1 and I thought the locking block was supposed to come off with ease because when I was in the Military in the early 90s my M9 was so loose that it just fell right out. Haha
I’ve found different versions of the locking block and the pins though. The pin groove in block are different. As well as the pin. One having a more narrow pin and groove. Is that a generation thing?
I have a 92FS, 9 mm. Nice gun, however after 50 shot I noticed pitting on the frame grove above the trigger area. Stopped using it, called the customer service and they asked me to send it to Beretta back east for inspection. That was about 5 years ago! Recently cleaning up my safe, I retrieved it and call authorized Beretta gun Smith in southern Calif and the gunsmith told me not a big deal Try shooting some more and it should be OK. Dis 50 more round, went back home and disassembled it for cleaning and noticed pitting got really bad. Please let me know what need to do and what the problem could be? Thanks
What would cause a bullet to not go into full battery on a 92f i think i just had this happen and it caused the fire mechanism push out the side and the bottom side of the bullet had a hole ini it after i fired it.
I got my barrel back from Beretta today. The new locking block was installed and the ding on the rail has been repaired. NO CHARGE ! I'm surprised to say the least. I haven't fired the weapon yet but the action feels smooth. I know that they redesigned the locking block to make it more durable but it has more play in it now. Just cleaning it before assembling the weapon the block slid to one side and jammed. I think this part needs to go back to the drawing board.
@dynosaur This is a misconception that was started in the early days of the gun. In the 15 years I've been in Beretta, the company has not recorded a single such incident.
Huh? Used to take these things out BY hand for cleaning at my former depts range! Thats when we were issued the 92FS- did something change? I know that part cracked TWICE on me, thank God it was again at the range and not on duty! Went Glock for 21 and 23 for on and off duty after that......
i have a beretta 98 FS stainless steel made in 2016 , i didn't shoot to many rounds with it about 1500/2000 r, I noted that the looking block started to loose the chrome finishing expecially from the side , it is normal ?
Great videos! I just got a 96 that is in great shape, but not really sure of the best way to clean it. I've watched many videos on how to clean the firearm and they all differ a little. Any chance you guys could make a video?
When I was still in the military we had (5) M9 pistol locking blocks fail I one day during firing on the range. I absolutely love this pistol but lost faith in it as a reliable sidearm. Because of the locking block issue, when the 19th SF Group deployed overseas, the unit armor included 150 spare locking blocks for replacement purposes.
I have a92fs from 1994 that I bought new. I have been able to remove the block without doing anything to the pin since it was new. Problem? I have 5,000 rounds through it
I have a 92F and I have read about them having a problem with the slide coming off and hitting people in the face. This locking block would not keep that from happening would it?
Someone told me that the Beretta only had a service life of 5,000 rounds. The 92 had problems with some frame cracking that really didn't affect reliability. Then the Tomcats began developing frame cracks that caused malfunctions. I have an INOX 92 and I love it, but I've been told not to fire +P+ 9mm in it. What's true today? Are the guns built any tougher now and what is a good guesstimate for service life? Are plastic frames really more durable than aluminum?
Recently Bought Metric Roll pin and punches from Brownell for my new Italian version . Instruction Booklet says 2mm punch must be used to remove roll pin in locking block . WRONG it is to big and bent like a Banana. finally used Harborfreight 1/16 punch but that just smashed the center of pin out , had to clear out debris on side with a drill bit and replace pin with a tiny nail used for hanging pictures. Brownells charges over $60 after postage for four punches that are very poor quality
As with all metal-on-metal contact parts, some wear should be expected. If you feel the wear is abnormal, however, please send images to service@berettasupport.com
beretta does not help with this problem!! It came off while cleaning the lock wedge. Is it a problem ? zero pistol 50 shots fired and the locking wedge comes off. I wrote a message to the factory and I'm waiting for a reply, I sent the pictures, the gun is guaranteed
I broke 2 punches trying to remove the pin. Thanks to the block of wood (recommended in the video) I damaged the end of the slide rail. I mailed it to Beretta, hoping they can salvage what's left. I'm not a gunsmith but I successfully do almost all of my work. It's ironic that of all of the how to videos on youtube, one from the mfg causes me problems. Hey at least I get to pay them $35 per 1/2 hr plus shipping both ways. Makes a guy wonder if that is the intent of this video?
nascar6829 Fergie Wow, how hard is it? Drive out 1 roll pin, pull out block pin, change block, replace block pin, drive in new roll pin. Did you use a sledgehammer?
I have 92A1 with maybe 500 rounds through it and the block can slide out without the pin removed. Its not easily removable but it does get wedged and can be frustrating at times
You can in fact remove the locking block without removing the pin! In fact several of my 92’s the locking block will sometimes fall out when I’m cleaning the gun!
Can I recommend that you guys do some close-up shots of what you're talking about with the Locking block and the pain and exactly how you're supporting it. Thank you, David.
For such a video, a close, detailed view is necessary! I can't believe the poor quality of instruction in this video as a result of the omission of close-up shots of what is being done.
My thought exactly
Looks like something from the 1990s but the instruction is top notch.
He described it well enough. If you can't figure it out from simple instruction, you don't need to be taking anything apart.
For detailed instructions & crystal clear close ups check out “ Rogue Banshee “
Grow a pair or stick to legos, beta male.
Ben Cook is the MAN! Great job Beretta! You've got yourself a golden goose there...
@He101A We don't think that's the case. While there will be some degredation of the rifling at 20k-30k rounds, it would be so slight that most would be hard-pressed to notice. A 25-yard group might (literally "might") open up from 2" to 2.10" or 2.20". In most service pistols, firing standard ammunition, the last part to be visibly affected is generally the rifling.
I have found that most average quality video cameras can be used a short distance from the subject and can actually be focused. Maybe audio only instructions might be easier to produce next time. Was the Beretta corporation actually behind this?
That's funny, last year I bought an M9a1 and I thought the locking block was supposed to come off with ease because when I was in the Military in the early 90s my M9 was so loose that it just fell right out. Haha
I’ve found different versions of the locking block and the pins though. The pin groove in block are different. As well as the pin. One having a more narrow pin and groove. Is that a generation thing?
Does the LOckng need to be fitted?
Are the Gen 2 or Gen 3 better than the Gen 1 Locking Block?
Are Gen1 or Gen2 LBs still being sold?
good video. i dropped my barrel and got the block wedged down, this video dug me out!
What other how-to videos would you like to see?
I have a 92A1 that the block comes out without any tools.
It shoots fine.
Had it ten years.
My 92s block comes out?
@@howarddavis6802 The locking block.
I have a 92FS, 9 mm. Nice gun, however after 50 shot I noticed pitting on the frame grove above the trigger area. Stopped using it, called the customer service and they asked me to send it to Beretta back east for inspection. That was about 5 years ago! Recently cleaning up my safe, I retrieved it and call authorized Beretta gun Smith in southern Calif and the gunsmith told me not a big deal Try shooting some more and it should be OK. Dis 50 more round, went back home and disassembled it for cleaning and noticed pitting got really bad. Please let me know what need to do and what the problem could be?
Thanks
Sorry, but it was very hard to see this blurry video to view the small objects you were working with.
What would cause a bullet to not go into full battery on a 92f i think i just had this happen and it caused the fire mechanism push out the side and the bottom side of the bullet had a hole ini it after i fired it.
I got my barrel back from Beretta today. The new locking block was installed and the ding on the rail has been repaired. NO CHARGE ! I'm surprised to say the least. I haven't fired the weapon yet but the action feels smooth. I know that they redesigned the locking block to make it more durable but it has more play in it now. Just cleaning it before assembling the weapon the block slid to one side and jammed. I think this part needs to go back to the drawing board.
@dynosaur This is a misconception that was started in the early days of the gun. In the 15 years I've been in Beretta, the company has not recorded a single such incident.
Huh? Used to take these things out BY hand for cleaning at my former depts range! Thats when we were issued the 92FS- did something change? I know that part cracked TWICE on me, thank God it was again at the range and not on duty! Went Glock for 21 and 23 for on and off duty after that......
Do you need to fit the new locking block to the gun when replacing it?
i have a beretta 98 FS stainless steel made in 2016 , i didn't shoot to many rounds with it about 1500/2000 r, I noted that the looking block started to loose the chrome finishing expecially from the side , it is normal ?
Great videos! I just got a 96 that is in great shape, but not really sure of the best way to clean it. I've watched many videos on how to clean the firearm and they all differ a little. Any chance you guys could make a video?
When I was still in the military we had (5) M9 pistol locking blocks fail I one day during firing on the range. I absolutely love this pistol but lost faith in it as a reliable sidearm. Because of the locking block issue, when the 19th SF Group deployed overseas, the unit armor included 150 spare locking blocks for replacement purposes.
I have a92fs from 1994 that I bought new. I have been able to remove the block without doing anything to the pin since it was new. Problem? I have 5,000 rounds through it
I gotten a 92s surplus. Would this kit work and basically make it into a 92sb since it would now have a firing pin block? Thank you
I have a 92F and I have read about them having a problem with the slide coming off and hitting people in the face. This locking block would not keep that from happening would it?
Grazie 1000, easy video, I need to replace the lock.block on a surplus 92S
Giuseppe Clemente just buy m9a3
Can you do a video of the beretta 21a bobcat firing pin removal?
I lost the small piece, what do I do? It doesn't work
Someone told me that the Beretta only had a service life of 5,000 rounds. The 92 had problems with some frame cracking that really didn't affect reliability. Then the Tomcats began developing frame cracks that caused malfunctions. I have an INOX 92 and I love it, but I've been told not to fire +P+ 9mm in it. What's true today? Are the guns built any tougher now and what is a good guesstimate for service life? Are plastic frames really more durable than aluminum?
I don't think any manufacturer recommends +P+
Every 8k rounds send gun back to beretta to be serviced
Recently Bought Metric Roll pin and punches from Brownell for my new Italian version .
Instruction Booklet says 2mm punch must be used to remove roll pin in locking block .
WRONG it is to big and bent like a Banana. finally used Harborfreight 1/16 punch but that just smashed the center of pin out , had to clear out debris on side with a drill bit and replace pin with a tiny nail used for hanging pictures.
Brownells charges over $60 after postage for four punches that are very poor quality
Has anyone had an issue similar to what I described below? Is it the aluminum frame or is it some defect with the steel slide?
My locking block came out without punching the pin out now i’m having trouble putting the pin back in by hand
I think there are 3 different versions of the lock block, but no mention of which version is being used or should be used.
@He101A Glad we could help!
@denispomm1 Great idea! We'll put it in production queue with the to-do videos.
I have a Beretta 92 compact and I barely shot 50 rounds threw it and now it has scrapes inside the slide. do you know what causes that to happen??
As with all metal-on-metal contact parts, some wear should be expected. If you feel the wear is abnormal, however, please send images to service@berettasupport.com
A video on what areas to look for worn parts and when to replace
I loste the baen so what i can do
beretta does not help with this problem!! It came off while cleaning the lock wedge. Is it a problem ? zero pistol 50 shots fired and the locking wedge comes off. I wrote a message to the factory and I'm waiting for a reply, I sent the pictures, the gun is guaranteed
Any more HOW TO vids comming out?
What size punch do you use to drive the roll pin out?
1.5mm punch
Beretta thanks
Would really love to see a cleaning and lube vid!
Can I send you a photo for your review and comment?
Make a video on how to replace the trigger. Just go a steel one and not sure exactly how to do it.
I am sure I need a new locking block mine falls out when I clean it.
20-30,000 rounds? Mine broke at 1,700. Fixed it. Sold it.
We can't see!
I need a little closer view of what you are doing...
What size punch is being used?
1.5 mm
Beretta its a 9mm gun how is 1.5mm being used. This guys a fraud
Hi-
Ask away... I will see what I can find out.
Everyone I’ve removed I was able to wiggle the block out the side.
what kind of tutorial is this? i cant even see what the part is and how to do it in DETAIL !!!
Unbelievably hard to see ANY detail. How can BERETTA release a video of such poor quality?
I broke 2 punches trying to remove the pin. Thanks to the block of wood (recommended in the video) I damaged the end of the slide rail. I mailed it to Beretta, hoping they can salvage what's left. I'm not a gunsmith but I successfully do almost all of my work. It's ironic that of all of the how to videos on youtube, one from the mfg causes me problems. Hey at least I get to pay them $35 per 1/2 hr plus shipping both ways. Makes a guy wonder if that is the intent of this video?
I'd be more than happy to meet up with you and let you find out for yourself. Internet tough guy.
I'd be more than happy to meet up with you and let you find out for yourself. Internet tough guy.
I'd be more than happy to meet up with you and let you find out for yourself. Internet tough guy.
nascar6829 Fergie Wahhhhhhhh
nascar6829 Fergie Wow, how hard is it? Drive out 1 roll pin, pull out block pin, change block, replace block pin, drive in new roll pin.
Did you use a sledgehammer?
I think that this video could benefit from some close up views. Thank you.
I can wiggle my locking block free
Close-ups would have helped
We can't build a gun that you don't have to return, but send it to us because you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Thanks for the video. Could use some close ups.
That was terrible. Next time try to do it close up so people watching can actually see what's happening.
For all the money you pay for their guns the video quality is doo doo.
If you are producing a video to educate people start with explaining what the locking block is for. Duh.
hand waving....
Can't see shit wtf
Cant see anything. Worthless video