@@marn25 he came back to save Macy from literally dying of grief after Grant died. He believed it to be reasonably safe at the time but as we will find out, it wasn't. Macy didn't know what had happened to her father when he disappeared and believed that he was dead.
*The Double Wedding: Stephanie vs Brooke* The “double wedding” played out as a battle for plot control between Stephanie and Brooke, with Stephanie arranging the event so Rick could “marry” Amber and Thorne could marry Macy, and Brooke trying to stop the former (via her emissary Kimberly who called Becky before the ceremony) and the latter (by going over there herself). And in classic Bill Bell fashion, both women won and lost. Brooke wasn’t able to break up Rick and Amber but Stephanie wasn’t able to marry Thorne and Macy. And just as Kimberly is Brooke’s chess piece, so are Amber and Macy for Stephanie. Indeed both Amber and Macy are branded that way in these episodes: Amber by literally wearing Stephanie’s wedding dress and then Eric compares Macy to Stephanie as the “good woman” Thorne will regret giving up for Brooke.
Great points about Stephanie's wedding dress, and Eric drawing the parallel between Stephanie and Macy! I like how the show positions Kimberly here as a kind of "double agent" in terms of plot function. She is both Brooke's ally (in the Rick/Amber storyline) and positioned to become Brooke's _ad ver sary_ (in the Macy/Thorne/Brooke storyline) - and she is at the "double wedding" to oppose one of the weddings but support the other.
@@annieo6527 I like that analysis. I just wonder what has happened with Kimberley, the double agent. She was supposed to be there *for her sister's wedding* , but during that episode and the one before, we never get to see Kimberly and Taylor. It seems as if they have left the party even when the wedding had not yet been called off.
@@mara4450 it was addressed. Macy sent Kimberly home, supposedly because Kimberly was upset about Rick and Amber, but probably because she felt like there wasn't going to be a wedding.
Thanks Annie! ❤️ LOVE your double agent point! So does Kimberly turn on Brooke at some point and is that part of her character going dark that you mentioned?
@@NewYorkNick0607 Yes, I even think this "cognitive dissonance" of Kimberly's will be addressed, where she sees Brooke as both an ally and as a thr e at to her sister's happiness. And in the end it will cause Kimberly to distance herself from _both_ Brooke and Rick out of loyalty to Macy.
Brooke thinks Thorne was wonderful breaking Macy's heart. But, as she reminds him, they are only "halfway there". Now they also need to break Stephanie.
@NewYorkNick0607 Eric is one sick old man! I had no idea from watching episodes from the past few years, what he was like in these old episodes! This man slept with several women on his wife! He's upset Brooke couldn't love him the way he wanted, and because Ridge wanted to please his mommy, is the reason he went back to Taylor, but could never quite stay I see.
That's an understatement.. macy Loved him unconditionally with all her heart and he destroyed it for brooke.. Who only gave him the time of day because his brother was unavailable..
@@annieo6527 Yes but came in to the show like that he had something MAJOR against the Foresters. Twice he said he will destroy them, their whole family. Never took action and we never found out exactly what it was all about. 🤔
@@prasad9002 he did want Spectra to compete with Forrester on the runway and they did. I don't think he wanted to destroy the entire family, he just didn't want them to hurt his children.
Brooke " always wants something ". She throws a tantrums when it someone else and than tries to take it away like all ungrateful, disrepectful disgusting brats, sociopath and psychopath do. "Always" is Brooke's favorite word. How long she has even noticed Thorne now "again" - two seconds.
I think it was wrong of Stephanie and Macy to do this, wrong of Eric, Ridge, and Taylor to conspire, and Thorne and Brooke to go on like this. This whole situation is a huge mess.
Clark here is helpful and holding Macy's father back from attacking Thorne. That's kinda nice of Clark. I wouldn't have been surprised if Clark had just watched and acted amused by Mr. Alexander and Thorne having a fight right there in front of them all.
I suprosed Clark didn't join in attacking Thorne as he seems to have taken on a role as Macy's family. Clark seems very protective of macy and Sally as the years went on
Just a reminder of how destructive Brooke has always been. Also a reminder that Ridge and Eric hated Brooke and what she was doing to their family. So all this Eric thinking Brooke was better for Ridge than Taylor or Brooke somehow being Ridges destiny is a big crock! Brooke never cares who she destroys when running after a man. She claimed to have loved each of them when it served her and never ended up with any of them. All Brooke has ever lived for is winning at all costs no matter how despicable and disgusting she acts to get her way. Even when children are involved, women died, became alcoholics like Macy, had heart attacks, or in a wheel chair like Stephanie, Brooke never stopped. She never does the right thing. And running off hiding so she wouldn’t get what she deserved. Same thing now in modern day. She and Hope play innocent but they’re only snakes in the grass. Why they don’t have Ridge and Eric stand up for their family today against Brooke and Hope instead of sending Thomas into that dysfunction is beyond me.
I thought Macy moved on the year before when she married Grant. I don't know why they had to have her back track. The drama had to come from somewhere I suppose.
This season A love affair is not a triangle as the one after Morocco with Ridge. He clearly didn't care about Taylor and denied all his talks about her when he thought she was dead. He had good reasons to distance him from Taylor, he had a family. Thorne here has lost completely his love for Macy as it has never existed. There aren't any moving scenes between them, he has no regrets at all. Instead we have only sickening scenes with Thorne and Brooke frankly nobody can relate, not even Brooke's lovers or, at least,many of them.
I know - with post Morocco Bridge we could see why Ridge would choose Brooke, but here, Thorne's choice comes across as literally i n sa ne. He has a woman who loves him, whom he has loved for years, and whom he wanted to marry just a few months ago. And still he wants Brooke instead. It really is as if Thorne is under a spell or something - it's like he has heard the siren in Greek mythology. He is not thinking rationally.
He acts like the past 10 years with macy were a dream. Like him and macy dated a couple months then brooke comes along. He had zero regard for her feelings
Thorne: _Macy, the last thing in the world that I would ever want to do is to hurt you. You were closer to to me than anyone in this room_ Macy, careful. Unfortunately that just means that Thorne isn't really close to anyone in his family. He is willing to turn his back on all of them and move to Europe (with Brooke). But yes, he is now also ready to hurt you, even if that is supposed to be one of the last things he wants to do.
This is the point where Macy should have taken a look around the room and realized that Thorne being closer to her than "anyone in this room" wasn't saying much.
I know people want to bash Brooke but how the hell can you try and force a person to get married? They all look deranged here. Including Stephanie. At least Ridge and Taylor have the decency to see the error in this.
I wonder why Brooke never likes Amber. Amber is like Brooke just younger, prettier, smarter and actually with some talent. Brooke never had any talent.
Brooke is the reason FC made alot of money with her Belief fabric, they didnt pay her for, that's why she owns most of the company. Amber is more than stupid thinking she's going to keep passing that baby off as Rick's. As far as Amber being prettier than Brooke, lol
@@melanieb-e8570 Brooke should have never gotten ownership or any shares of FC. Another example of Eric's stupidity. And FC was doing fine without Brooke. Brooke used FC facility and money to create belief for FC and while she worked for them - contract or no contract. And Rigde was part of that creations process where is his payment. Brooke needed the money, possiblities and opportunitiies that FC (a worldwide sucessful company) present to her. Amber is much prettier. The most women on this show are prettier than Brooke.
Rick knows that Thorne is supposed to get married that night - but doesn't seem to mind that he is going to miss that wedding of big brother Thorne. Rick is busy with 🥂 and catwoman Amber (meow).
No Thorne is, so delusional to think the SFTV Brooke really loves him. I was so happy when he found out the SFTV still loved Ridge, he deserved every bit of pain for what he did to Macy
I am just surprised that Thorne did not run as quickly as he could, after that disastrous evening. He felt he had been emotional blackmailed by his dad and brother, pressured by his mother and her health, felt guilty that he had had to hurt Macy in front of everyone .....but still he stayed at the pool area? Why not just go home to his own place?
@kellymcquay2626 he really didn't. He had so many opportunities to be honest. With at least macy. Months ago. Months. He just let her go on delivering there was something between them and that is what I never forgave him for. The way he treated her like she wasn't the closest person in the world to him. Closer than any of his family ever was. And this is how he treated her. Even at this moment. He could go after her. And tell her the truth. Apologize for all the months of strong her along. Something.
The thing is that Ridge and Eric were right.. Brooke lied to Thorne all along, she kept saying that Thorne was the one while it was actually still Ridge, she didn’t have the decency to be honest with him and let him make his choice having all the necessary information.. and only a few months after their wedding, not only were Ridge and Eric turn out to be right, but right after their divorce, Brooke started to aggressively seduce Ridge again without looking back
😂this must be really really old now Thomas trying marry hope and she toying with his emotions he has been mental all hell about break out. And brooks back with Ridge.
Eric and Ridge threaten to stop thorn for the same thing they both did with Brooke. Becky, you go get your baby back!!! Amber, is the same version as Flo, a baby thief!!! wait till Rick finds out!!!
How on earth do they think this will make anyone happy? Forced marriage and pressure and lying in front of the minister? I mean, I get wanting Brooke to never be part of the Forresters again, but this was dumb move on the Forresters' part.
I camt believe my macy follwed thos man to paris and then marroed him the minute he broke it pff with brooke. Only to have to be temporary a d he went right back to brooke. She knows hw lied to her and plaued her for a fool for months at this point. Yet in a couple months she goes to paris and marrys him. Why.
The true villain of the show isn't Sheila. It's Brooke's heart. Look at the destruction it creates every time she follows it🙄.
Truly
I lost it when Ridge said they should have let Adam rip Thorne apart. 😂🤣 I wish they had!
I wish that would happen too 😂😂
Who is adam?
Goodness, and Brooke says Thomas is obsessed. Brooke was the original stalker and obsessor of the Forrester family
Sadly
Brooke spying/looking in on a couple again at 4:49.
There's even a plant to make it look like she's in the bushes! (6:32) 😂😂
I knew you would catch this! 😊
It's a tribute to her B&B 's beginning 😂.
Bobbie Eakes was so heartbreaking in this scene. And so much more righteous in her feelings than all these people deceiving her.
Adam is a very protective father to Macy, he never left her side since she was born. I am touched.
He left because his life, and Sally's and Macy's lives, would have been in danger if he had stayed. There were professional k i 11 ers out to get him.
@@annieo6527 A ok, so he came back after the danger passed?
Did Macy know her father was alive?
@@marn25 he came back to save Macy from literally dying of grief after Grant died. He believed it to be reasonably safe at the time but as we will find out, it wasn't. Macy didn't know what had happened to her father when he disappeared and believed that he was dead.
@@annieo6527 Did Sally know all that?
@@marn25 no, like Macy, she had no idea what had happened or why Adam had left.
*The Double Wedding: Stephanie vs Brooke*
The “double wedding” played out as a battle for plot control between Stephanie and Brooke, with Stephanie arranging the event so Rick could “marry” Amber and Thorne could marry Macy, and Brooke trying to stop the former (via her emissary Kimberly who called Becky before the ceremony) and the latter (by going over there herself). And in classic Bill Bell fashion, both women won and lost. Brooke wasn’t able to break up Rick and Amber but Stephanie wasn’t able to marry Thorne and Macy. And just as Kimberly is Brooke’s chess piece, so are Amber and Macy for Stephanie. Indeed both Amber and Macy are branded that way in these episodes: Amber by literally wearing Stephanie’s wedding dress and then Eric compares Macy to Stephanie as the “good woman” Thorne will regret giving up for Brooke.
Great points about Stephanie's wedding dress, and Eric drawing the parallel between Stephanie and Macy!
I like how the show positions Kimberly here as a kind of "double agent" in terms of plot function. She is both Brooke's ally (in the Rick/Amber storyline) and positioned to become Brooke's _ad ver sary_ (in the Macy/Thorne/Brooke storyline) - and she is at the "double wedding" to oppose one of the weddings but support the other.
@@annieo6527 I like that analysis. I just wonder what has happened with Kimberley, the double agent. She was supposed to be there *for her sister's wedding* , but during that episode and the one before, we never get to see Kimberly and Taylor.
It seems as if they have left the party even when the wedding had not yet been called off.
@@mara4450 it was addressed. Macy sent Kimberly home, supposedly because Kimberly was upset about Rick and Amber, but probably because she felt like there wasn't going to be a wedding.
Thanks Annie! ❤️ LOVE your double agent point! So does Kimberly turn on Brooke at some point and is that part of her character going dark that you mentioned?
@@NewYorkNick0607 Yes, I even think this "cognitive dissonance" of Kimberly's will be addressed, where she sees Brooke as both an ally and as a thr e at to her sister's happiness. And in the end it will cause Kimberly to distance herself from _both_ Brooke and Rick out of loyalty to Macy.
Brooke thinks Thorne was wonderful breaking Macy's heart. But, as she reminds him, they are only "halfway there". Now they also need to break Stephanie.
And Eric's like, "I'm _not_ gonna let Brooke k i 11 Stephanie!"
Break Stephanie? There's no breaking that barracuda! She seem to have a sick obsession with Ridge, and she's jealous of Brooke!
@NewYorkNick0607 Eric is one sick old man! I had no idea from watching episodes from the past few years, what he was like in these old episodes! This man slept with several women on his wife! He's upset Brooke couldn't love him the way he wanted, and because Ridge wanted to please his mommy, is the reason he went back to Taylor, but could never quite stay I see.
@@melanieb-e8570I like the way you defend Brooke... you'll love season 8 thread... today's episode is amazing😂😂
@@melanieb-e8570 Exactly
the dumbest thing Thorn has done
This Thorne didn't start properly in the show. He worked hard to hide Thomas paternity to Ridge knowing that
Taylor was still in love with Ridge.
I was not watching the show at that time so I had no idea
That's an understatement.. macy Loved him unconditionally with all her heart and he destroyed it for brooke.. Who only gave him the time of day because his brother was unavailable..
Brooke always creeping!😂
The main stalker of B&B !!
She’s always lurking isn’t she 😂
@@-Lily7415expect less from the master logan
She's the master of it
she is a creeper alright
Macy's dad has been threatening Forester's since he arrived but never took any action 😂
Well, he does take action to protect Macy later on.
@@annieo6527 Yes but came in to the show like that he had something MAJOR against the Foresters. Twice he said he will destroy them, their whole family. Never took action and we never found out exactly what it was all about. 🤔
@@prasad9002 he did want Spectra to compete with Forrester on the runway and they did. I don't think he wanted to destroy the entire family, he just didn't want them to hurt his children.
@prasad9002 Very true he never heard of talk his cheap
Brooke " always wants something ". She throws a tantrums when it someone else and than tries to take it away like all ungrateful, disrepectful disgusting brats, sociopath and psychopath do.
"Always" is Brooke's favorite word.
How long she has even noticed Thorne now "again" - two seconds.
It's no wonder her kids turned out the way they did with the exception of bridget.
And this is the point where Macy should have just thought "to 🔥😈🔱 with it" and made a beeline for the Forrester darkroom.
Omg yes !
A good girl has to keep her dignity ❤
Can anyone marry by force ??just to satisfy others
Exactly. And I wouldn't want anyone to marry if they have feelings for someone else.
I think it was wrong of Stephanie and Macy to do this, wrong of Eric, Ridge, and Taylor to conspire, and Thorne and Brooke to go on like this. This whole situation is a huge mess.
Macy didn't do anything wrong
Clark here is helpful and holding Macy's father back from attacking Thorne. That's kinda nice of Clark.
I wouldn't have been surprised if Clark had just watched and acted amused by Mr. Alexander and Thorne having a fight right there in front of them all.
Honestly, I wish they _hadn't_ held Adam back. 😁
I suprosed Clark didn't join in attacking Thorne as he seems to have taken on a role as Macy's family. Clark seems very protective of macy and Sally as the years went on
Are they really mad because of Stephanie or because they can’t have Brooke anymore? 😂
That Ramber foreplay scene🤢. And we all thought the Bridge 90s sex scenes were cringeworthy.
Just a reminder of how destructive Brooke has always been. Also a reminder that Ridge and Eric hated Brooke and what she was doing to their family. So all this Eric thinking Brooke was better for Ridge than Taylor or Brooke somehow being Ridges destiny is a big crock! Brooke never cares who she destroys when running after a man. She claimed to have loved each of them when it served her and never ended up with any of them. All Brooke has ever lived for is winning at all costs no matter how despicable and disgusting she acts to get her way. Even when children are involved, women died, became alcoholics like Macy, had heart attacks, or in a wheel chair like Stephanie, Brooke never stopped. She never does the right thing. And running off hiding so she wouldn’t get what she deserved. Same thing now in modern day. She and Hope play innocent but they’re only snakes in the grass. Why they don’t have Ridge and Eric stand up for their family today against Brooke and Hope instead of sending Thomas into that dysfunction is beyond me.
Macy would have neen fine newrly a year ago if thorne had just been honest woth her. Not lie and gaslight her.
I thought Macy moved on the year before when she married Grant. I don't know why they had to have her back track. The drama had to come from somewhere I suppose.
Gosh, poor Macy 💔 I love her so much, she is wonderful, beautiful country-rock star ♠️
she is more than he desreves
This season A love affair is not a triangle as the one after Morocco with Ridge. He clearly didn't care about Taylor and denied all his talks about her when he thought she was dead. He had good reasons to distance him from Taylor, he had a family.
Thorne here has lost completely his love for Macy as it has never existed.
There aren't any moving scenes between them, he has no regrets at all. Instead we have only sickening scenes with Thorne and Brooke frankly nobody can relate, not even Brooke's lovers or, at least,many of them.
I know - with post Morocco Bridge we could see why Ridge would choose Brooke, but here, Thorne's choice comes across as literally i n sa ne. He has a woman who loves him, whom he has loved for years, and whom he wanted to marry just a few months ago. And still he wants Brooke instead. It really is as if Thorne is under a spell or something - it's like he has heard the siren in Greek mythology. He is not thinking rationally.
He acts like the past 10 years with macy were a dream. Like him and macy dated a couple months then brooke comes along. He had zero regard for her feelings
Brook still the player she's always been medeling in her daughter hopes business. 😂😂😮
Thorne: _Macy, the last thing in the world that I would ever want to do is to hurt you. You were closer to to me than anyone in this room_
Macy, careful. Unfortunately that just means that Thorne isn't really close to anyone in his family. He is willing to turn his back on all of them and move to Europe (with Brooke). But yes, he is now also ready to hurt you, even if that is supposed to be one of the last things he wants to do.
This is the point where Macy should have taken a look around the room and realized that Thorne being closer to her than "anyone in this room" wasn't saying much.
Because Stephanie was the head of the family. And she loved Ridge the most. And Eric and Ridge are just hypocrites.
I know people want to bash Brooke but how the hell can you try and force a person to get married? They all look deranged here. Including Stephanie. At least Ridge and Taylor have the decency to see the error in this.
Adam Was About To Get Thorne Lol 😂🤣
Thank you so much for this episode and everyone should have a great weekend too
LOL everyone trying to force Thorne into the wedding. They might as well all have had shotguns at their sides!
I wonder why Brooke never likes Amber. Amber is like Brooke just younger, prettier, smarter and actually with some talent. Brooke never had any talent.
Brooke is the reason FC made alot of money with her Belief fabric, they didnt pay her for, that's why she owns most of the company. Amber is more than stupid thinking she's going to keep passing that baby off as Rick's. As far as Amber being prettier than Brooke, lol
Brooke really is useless!😂
@@melanieb-e8570🙄🥴🤣
Brooke is prettier than Amber. She is a chemist. And a businesswoman. What😂?
@@melanieb-e8570 Brooke should have never gotten ownership or any shares of FC.
Another example of Eric's stupidity.
And FC was doing fine without Brooke. Brooke used FC facility and money to create belief for FC and while she worked for them - contract or no contract. And Rigde was part of that creations process where is his payment.
Brooke needed the money, possiblities and opportunitiies that FC (a worldwide sucessful company) present to her.
Amber is much prettier. The most women on this show are prettier than Brooke.
What season is this. I'm ón season 37
Rick knows that Thorne is supposed to get married that night - but doesn't seem to mind that he is going to miss that wedding of big brother Thorne. Rick is busy with 🥂 and catwoman Amber (meow).
Stephanie and Macy are so delusional...
No Thorne is, so delusional to think the SFTV Brooke really loves him. I was so happy when he found out the SFTV still loved Ridge, he deserved every bit of pain for what he did to Macy
ok but family cannot force anyone into an unscheduled marriage...
So are brooke and thorne
Eric is still in love with Brooke that s the problem and not Stephanie health
I am just surprised that Thorne did not run as quickly as he could, after that disastrous evening.
He felt he had been emotional blackmailed by his dad and brother, pressured by his mother and her health, felt guilty that he had had to hurt Macy in front of everyone .....but still he stayed at the pool area? Why not just go home to his own place?
Thorne didn't care that he hurt Macy
@kellymcquay2626 he really didn't. He had so many opportunities to be honest. With at least macy. Months ago. Months. He just let her go on delivering there was something between them and that is what I never forgave him for. The way he treated her like she wasn't the closest person in the world to him. Closer than any of his family ever was. And this is how he treated her. Even at this moment. He could go after her. And tell her the truth. Apologize for all the months of strong her along. Something.
Brooke hiding behind the plant, on the outside looking in (again!) @Nick.
I posted about it and then saw yours! 😂🤣
The thing is that Ridge and Eric were right.. Brooke lied to Thorne all along, she kept saying that Thorne was the one while it was actually still Ridge, she didn’t have the decency to be honest with him and let him make his choice having all the necessary information.. and only a few months after their wedding, not only were Ridge and Eric turn out to be right, but right after their divorce, Brooke started to aggressively seduce Ridge again without looking back
So, *@Nick,* is Amber having an "on" fashion day yet? 😆
😂 I guess this is an improvement! She went from wearing Stephanie's wedding dress to raiding Brooke's closet. 🤣
I'm furious 😠 at Thorne
Woman so heartless 💔 brooke
😂this must be really really old now Thomas trying marry hope and she toying with his emotions he has been mental all hell about break out. And brooks back with Ridge.
Everything Brooke accused Amber for she was guilty ten times over
Eric and Ridge threaten to stop thorn for the same thing they both did with Brooke. Becky, you go get your baby back!!! Amber, is the same version as Flo, a baby thief!!! wait till Rick finds out!!!
I always liked this Thorne! Very well suited with Brooke! Such a hot,steamy coupling! But they had to always make Brooke to want Ridge!
@@PeaceLoveHappiness7719Yeap, this coupling up falling was hard to swallow!! BRIDGE fan too from the beginning!
How many marriages and family have you destroyed?
@@kellymcquay2626 So, it's ONLY Brooke's fault?! Not any of these men?!?! 🤔🙄
@@Kuunpoika
No it's their fault too
I hate Brooke and Thorne
What happened to Taylor?
Guess she went home like Kimberly!😂
@@jemekiahall5848Ridge should get home too.He has 2 newborn babies and another little child.
Maybe she went home to the kids.
@@aph1976Ridge needs to be on his way too
She had to go so Eric and Ridge can start acting like idiots.
Love 😂😂😂😂😂
We approaching the new (current) millennium guys.
Wrong description, this already happened
Yes, from here on the episode describitions are all wrong.
As long as the episodes are right, I don't mind the descriptions being wrong.
All the way through to 3222 at this stage.
@@marcopoll-o yes, but the thumbnails are right, so I assume we'll get the correct episodes anyway.
@@annieo6527awesome, that’s good to know, thank you Annie
Thorne wants to repeat his father's mistake he too wants a slice of the logan bed so let him he will leave her on his own when he has had enough
Adam Alexander
How on earth do they think this will make anyone happy? Forced marriage and pressure and lying in front of the minister? I mean, I get wanting Brooke to never be part of the Forresters again, but this was dumb move on the Forresters' part.
I camt believe my macy follwed thos man to paris and then marroed him the minute he broke it pff with brooke. Only to have to be temporary a d he went right back to brooke. She knows hw lied to her and plaued her for a fool for months at this point. Yet in a couple months she goes to paris and marrys him. Why.