@@jacoryarnett7347 aravi should inky proc heal once per turn, or start less fightS, or completely lose the cr push when hit. The cr push is bs. If not lose it, proc only once per turn. Personally, I think lose cr push passive altogether. Rimuru cannot steal on a miss (maybe not enough) Belian is okay Aola should lose the cr push or lose the cleanse, or lose the skill nul. But in any case SG will never nerf
@@watawatan0w belian is not ok if her passive was 50% soul reduction then yeah maybe she would be balanced but completely negating a game mechanic is not ok
@@darkfox8101 a unit that provides an undispellable defense and attack buff that stacks WITH defense and attack buff, reduces buff durations of enemies by 1 turn which is basically an immunity strip turn 1, and gives them a 2 turn decrease attack, she is also a unit that can be built 290-300 speed easily, and with border coin, she's basically a 400 speed unit with 3 stacks on that arti, not to mention with how fast she is, her s2 can permalock units in certain situatons even without soul burn, and has very good damage output with her guaranteed dual attack s1, its pretty insane, because not only does she provide amazing utility with her s3, she provides some sustain with s2 and can clutch sone matches with it, while being a good source of damage aswell
That Armin fight, lmao XD . I think if ML Viv's passive cancels (or even mitigates) the extra damage procs from Rimuru, Hwayoung and Uberius' Tooth, she'd be pretty valuable imo.
@@Axel-sh1zl I know it doesn't. Perhaps I phrased it badly, but I meant that if only her passive cancelled the damage, there'd be more of an incentive to pull her. As it is, the fact she doesn't appears to have put some people off.
Seriously in every fight he did except the last one, if he replaced Nerfed Vivian with ML Sermia, the fight would've been over faster and went way smoother. Even with maxed stacks, attack buff, and cdmg buff on her damage doesn't compare
Quite fun and goob vibes video, Im happy bpw because I can achieve a similar status build with mine Sylvian. Also, there's a Vivian imprint in ur storage as u mentioned the 50% cr is due to lack of imprint
If you have debuff problem , you christy If you want mitigation , christy can use aurius If you need low cost waifu , christy is there And if you want an attack buff , christy can do it Ml vivian weakness , Arena lightning will kill her fast You can use sharun to give her a shield every turn , making her never loose hp Even hwayoung s1 will have trouble dealing dmg Mine vivian will have same stats/set with chatty artifact and 2k def , cause to survive hwayoung s1 the best is to put some def Best of this duo , sharun actualy counter rimuru For now im still trying to get ml vivian , i got 6 rekos artifact in 30 pulls 😓
Well rimuru will buff allies a lot , and the more they are buffed , the more sharun push herself Its not a complete counter , just countering his abitility to stack buffs He make her get 20% cr push each time someone attack , its like she attack twice faster
I feel like lifesteal is pretty useless when you have the amount of support units with her like in the first match. Also, you got s3 back pretty quickly.
it would still depend on the units in the field. Yes, the support units would definitely help keep her alive, but they won't always have her at max HP. Can't say you're wrong though; there were some matches where she wasn't targeted for the most part, and felt that the lifesteal build was bad on her, but when it works, it WORKS.
I’ve seen few showcases around TH-cam with the speed build which is nice, but I felt it was a bit clutch cause the heal she provided wasn’t much for herself, so without more supports on the field, she could be in danger of dying. But I agree 100% if she’s not being targeted, speed build is better any day of the week.
Mine currently sits at 12.5kHP and 1.2k Def. 3.2k Atk, exactly 200 Speed, and I believe 260 Crit Damage. Will obviously deal less damage but would cycle faster. for RTA, I would love to draft her against steath heroes who will likely be unable to 1-shot her, or against a somewhat less tanky team comp. her weakness ofc will be Belian, as she'll single-handedly prevent her S1 soulburn for the AoE.
Her kits’ are very interesting but I don’t see any synergy with the units that I’m currently using. I’ll save my pity for now and wait for ma boi ML Pavel.
Got her, Bad-Cat, and Shuna. I wish they'd talk about the Aria censorship so I can decide if I am going to actually build anything. The idea in my mind is counter, counter, and more counter.
I think they're putting it off for as long as possible hoping that people forget about it. Then again in my opinion they've already shown the direction they're going with how they handled ml vivian and her art changes.
I mean we were given Nerfed Vivian on a silver platter. They covered her thighs of all things as well as other obvious changes. It's hilarious. You know anime booba is bad for you, its worse then Cuties which Netflix was happy to release and defend
They do that a lot and as soon as I see it, I lose interest in the hero, they make them specifically for PvP which I don't even play besides guild wars
@@Ecchi_Kun Yeah that's a lot of people. Don't you love when they buff, nerf, or release heroes specifically for RTA and then it ruins the experience in GWs. Yea fun stuff. Example, creating Belian becuz Specter was hurting peoples souls and forcing them to kiss her feet.
Why is her Defense so low? She's a Mage, it should be easy to build her with far higher defense than 1k. She would be way better with stat priorities switched around, 10/11k (She has low base HP, a lot is required to hit 14k) HP and 1.5k Defense. Instead of 14k HP and 1k Defense.
to tank expectedly strong hwayoung, I calculated it to be around 12-13k. too lazy to do the math again, but those are the numbers I found. even more for Rimiru (13k or more I think) since his true damage is at 10k max. Of course, if you pair her with a Damage-sharing unit, the damage significantly drops to the point of giving her much less HP.
@@jamesadd4566 if you mean so that Hwa can get no bonus damage on her S3, then you'd be right. But thanks to her passive, it severely mitigates her damage save for the Uberius damage. In fact, while it's true that she deals more damage the more HP you have, thanks to how her passive works, the increased HP outweighs the damage gain on her S3. Assuming ML Vivian is at 13k HP, and Hwaoung has exactly 7008 Atk and has atk up AND Vigor, Hwayoung's damage would be at around 10612. Even less so if you had an ally with damage-sharing.
i got dilibet when she first came out and now those who didnt get her struggle. i have sylvan sage and shall wait for her buff, because i know she will be broken very soon.
Hwayoung s3 doesnt bypass her passive , the rimuru s3 initial dmg doesnt too However any aditional dmg such as uberius tooth or hwayound aditional dmg on s1 or 10k bonus dmg from rimuru s3 will To counter thoses dmg you can use shields and increase your def , for exemple giving her 2k def and teaming her with sharun
No we got Hwa simps in your chat my guy. They'll probably attack me just for saying this actually :P. Riolet can 1shot Nerfed Vivian as well and with that being true I'm sure other strong single targets can do the same. I mean that's their job after all. If you aint 1 hitting then get back in the kitchen. Also I'm more surprised you found Specter outside of RTA then anything else. That is such a rare sight for me but I welcome it cuz the defenses tend to be speed runnable.
Well the lifesteal only apply to herself , other unit recover hp by around 20% of their hp , so i guess its 20% , the dmg is great but the heal based on target hp is realy weak Most of the time a single unit s1 will deal around 50% of target hp , 200% each turns , so being able to heal up to 80% every 3 turns is not enough Actualy even if there was 4 ml vivian , it would mean 320% hp every 3 turns , meaning around 110% hp every turns , so she heal around half of target dmg The good thing is that she reduce dmg by 70% , so the 4 vivian would be able to outheal any dps teams So i guess you can use her as your main healer in a tank team , for exemple sharun ml crozel ml vivian and christy
@@shirakolee yea that's what i was going for, healing a bruiser comp like aravi or choux would be really good as they also have healing in her kit. Was looking to see if i could get her on destruction set for more damage instead of sustain. But yea 20% for herself without LS seems too low, would need chatty or a soul weaver to heal her up,( or barriers)
She’s really not bad but if opponent has Solitaria she’s dead. As she will have no focus at all, Solitaria dispels and stuns…rip But nonetheless she’s unique
Coli counter any team using fire character and is useless against any team not using fire units Sadly her stun doesnt triger jack passive so she doesnt push allies She could have been a great ml sez duo !
dont pull for her she is sooo fucking bad! She can nothing rly good. She is oneshot for rimuru and and she dies fast by heros what become second turns ....then no focus no life XD
@@TheAmirz123 there are so many answers to her, coli, opsig, kise, cleave her. Yulha hard counters all ai hwas. It was his fault he didn't have pov or holy sac against an atk buff hwa. Where's the complaining about aravi, rimuru too?
@@Shiki0414 Can we all agree Rimuru, Hwayoung and A. Ravi are top cancer in PvP? its like 95% of the time we see these SAME meta ass units in Defense Arena, GvG and RTA along with C.Lilias, Belian, Rem, Piera/AoL like my God I hope someday smilegate nerf these units in the ground and buff older Covenant 5 and ML5 units cause this meta is annoying and cancer.
@@jacoryarnett7347 yep I agree 100% rimu hwa aravi being annoying but they keep each other in check somewhat. If something is to be nerfed, all of them need to be nerfed. I'm not against balance. I'm against blaming a unit for bad decisions xD that's why I don't comment on mango vids anymore but I have more respect for doggo as a player and this constant complaining is disappointing me.
yeap u said is true...these people said hwayoung is balanced with having passive dmg reduction doing crazy dmg with thick barrier turn
This is excalty why Hwayoung and Rimuru needs a nerf these units are cancer on PvP along with C.Lilias, Belian, Rem, A.Ravi and AoL.
@@jacoryarnett7347 aravi should inky proc heal once per turn, or start less fightS, or completely lose the cr push when hit. The cr push is bs. If not lose it, proc only once per turn.
Personally, I think lose cr push passive altogether.
Rimuru cannot steal on a miss (maybe not enough)
Belian is okay
Aola should lose the cr push or lose the cleanse, or lose the skill nul.
But in any case SG will never nerf
@@watawatan0w belian is not ok if her passive was 50% soul reduction then yeah maybe she would be balanced but completely negating a game mechanic is not ok
wait why is c lilias cancer?
@@darkfox8101 a unit that provides an undispellable defense and attack buff that stacks WITH defense and attack buff, reduces buff durations of enemies by 1 turn which is basically an immunity strip turn 1, and gives them a 2 turn decrease attack, she is also a unit that can be built 290-300 speed easily, and with border coin, she's basically a 400 speed unit with 3 stacks on that arti, not to mention with how fast she is, her s2 can permalock units in certain situatons even without soul burn, and has very good damage output with her guaranteed dual attack s1, its pretty insane, because not only does she provide amazing utility with her s3, she provides some sustain with s2 and can clutch sone matches with it, while being a good source of damage aswell
That Armin fight, lmao XD .
I think if ML Viv's passive cancels (or even mitigates) the extra damage procs from Rimuru, Hwayoung and Uberius' Tooth, she'd be pretty valuable imo.
it doesn't
@@Axel-sh1zl I know it doesn't. Perhaps I phrased it badly, but I meant that if only her passive cancelled the damage, there'd be more of an incentive to pull her. As it is, the fact she doesn't appears to have put some people off.
I mean they said expected damage instead of just damage so I feel additional dmg should but not debuffs or fixed dmg.
I wish ML Vivian be a counter to these characters esp Rimiru, if she can just reduce the fix damage, she would be awesome!
Seriously in every fight he did except the last one, if he replaced Nerfed Vivian with ML Sermia, the fight would've been over faster and went way smoother. Even with maxed stacks, attack buff, and cdmg buff on her damage doesn't compare
Quite fun and goob vibes video, Im happy bpw because I can achieve a similar status build with mine Sylvian. Also, there's a Vivian imprint in ur storage as u mentioned the 50% cr is due to lack of imprint
If you have debuff problem , you christy
If you want mitigation , christy can use aurius
If you need low cost waifu , christy is there
And if you want an attack buff , christy can do it
Ml vivian weakness , Arena lightning will kill her fast
You can use sharun to give her a shield every turn , making her never loose hp
Even hwayoung s1 will have trouble dealing dmg
Mine vivian will have same stats/set with chatty artifact and 2k def , cause to survive hwayoung s1 the best is to put some def
Best of this duo , sharun actualy counter rimuru
For now im still trying to get ml vivian , i got 6 rekos artifact in 30 pulls 😓
Excuse me kind sir, can you explain to this old man how Sharun counters slime boy?
Well rimuru will buff allies a lot , and the more they are buffed , the more sharun push herself
Its not a complete counter , just countering his abitility to stack buffs
He make her get 20% cr push each time someone attack , its like she attack twice faster
I feel like lifesteal is pretty useless when you have the amount of support units with her like in the first match. Also, you got s3 back pretty quickly.
it would still depend on the units in the field. Yes, the support units would definitely help keep her alive, but they won't always have her at max HP. Can't say you're wrong though; there were some matches where she wasn't targeted for the most part, and felt that the lifesteal build was bad on her, but when it works, it WORKS.
I’ve seen few showcases around TH-cam with the speed build which is nice, but I felt it was a bit clutch cause the heal she provided wasn’t much for herself, so without more supports on the field, she could be in danger of dying. But I agree 100% if she’s not being targeted, speed build is better any day of the week.
Mine currently sits at 12.5kHP and 1.2k Def. 3.2k Atk, exactly 200 Speed, and I believe 260 Crit Damage. Will obviously deal less damage but would cycle faster. for RTA, I would love to draft her against steath heroes who will likely be unable to 1-shot her, or against a somewhat less tanky team comp. her weakness ofc will be Belian, as she'll single-handedly prevent her S1 soulburn for the AoE.
Her kits’ are very interesting but I don’t see any synergy with the units that I’m currently using. I’ll save my pity for now and wait for ma boi ML Pavel.
I got her and put on speed/crit and I regret nothing. She hits pretty hard. But happy to know she is underwhelming for people so she will get a buff.
The "rakuddai kishi no cavalry" ost my man u have good taste :
i don't always comment on videos, but when i do it's to commend top tier editing by hardworking editors
Got her from my first wish of the day today! Gotta love the free summon system in E7 😂
I was one summon off a gauranteed op sig
So pull her or not? How about Sharun?
Or just wait for FMA collab banners instead?
Don't tease me like that. Is that really a thing?
@@KillaBryx yea its confirm from what i hear and read in some E7 FB groups and forums too
fma collab won't be for months still most likely. Talking like 3-4 months at least. we knew about Re:Zero collab almost a year in advance..
@@ZaSnail at least for me something to look forward to and save my summoning stone, also there will be summer suit charlotte coming before that soon
Got her, Bad-Cat, and Shuna. I wish they'd talk about the Aria censorship so I can decide if I am going to actually build anything. The idea in my mind is counter, counter, and more counter.
I think they're putting it off for as long as possible hoping that people forget about it. Then again in my opinion they've already shown the direction they're going with how they handled ml vivian and her art changes.
I mean we were given Nerfed Vivian on a silver platter. They covered her thighs of all things as well as other obvious changes. It's hilarious. You know anime booba is bad for you, its worse then Cuties which Netflix was happy to release and defend
what if you brought a Tagahel and spam her soulburn S1 with injury set?
I think ML Viv would be really good, if her S2 worked in PvE. Honestly I dont know why they added that last sentence to her S2 Skill.
They do that a lot and as soon as I see it, I lose interest in the hero, they make them specifically for PvP which I don't even play besides guild wars
@@Ecchi_Kun Yeah that's a lot of people. Don't you love when they buff, nerf, or release heroes specifically for RTA and then it ruins the experience in GWs. Yea fun stuff. Example, creating Belian becuz Specter was hurting peoples souls and forcing them to kiss her feet.
I have her on 4100 atk 100cc 285 cdmg 13k hp and 1400 defense with 180 speed and she hits like truck. People usually disrespect her
Why is her Defense so low? She's a Mage, it should be easy to build her with far higher defense than 1k. She would be way better with stat priorities switched around, 10/11k (She has low base HP, a lot is required to hit 14k) HP and 1.5k Defense. Instead of 14k HP and 1k Defense.
I still remember his Charles and kayron harassment videos.😂😂😂
Hold on, ML Vivian is +15. So you had mologora to do that. Amazing.
In my opinion, she only needs around 10k-11k hp so that her S2 can tank hwa young.
to tank expectedly strong hwayoung, I calculated it to be around 12-13k. too lazy to do the math again, but those are the numbers I found.
even more for Rimiru (13k or more I think) since his true damage is at 10k max.
Of course, if you pair her with a Damage-sharing unit, the damage significantly drops to the point of giving her much less HP.
@@robertoserrano6505 she needs to has lower HP than hwa young.
@@jamesadd4566 if you mean so that Hwa can get no bonus damage on her S3, then you'd be right.
But thanks to her passive, it severely mitigates her damage save for the Uberius damage. In fact, while it's true that she deals more damage the more HP you have, thanks to how her passive works, the increased HP outweighs the damage gain on her S3.
Assuming ML Vivian is at 13k HP, and Hwaoung has exactly 7008 Atk and has atk up AND Vigor, Hwayoung's damage would be at around 10612. Even less so if you had an ally with damage-sharing.
@@robertoserrano6505 Ras is her best partner. I can't wait to see how Ras will perform this season because of ml vivian and summer Charlotte.
i got dilibet when she first came out and now those who didnt get her struggle. i have sylvan sage and shall wait for her buff, because i know she will be broken very soon.
Team her with sharun or ml crozet , or both , she should be able to survive anything
I’m pretty sure rimuru and hwayoung don’t bypass her passive
hwa is more affected than rimu. The extra proc damage is unmitigated i.e uberius proc and 10k damage from rimu
It is FIXED damage...
Rimuru kills her, while Hwa doesn’t
They do, any kind of extra damage like burn and poison as well.
Hwayoung s3 doesnt bypass her passive , the rimuru s3 initial dmg doesnt too
However any aditional dmg such as uberius tooth or hwayound aditional dmg on s1 or 10k bonus dmg from rimuru s3 will
To counter thoses dmg you can use shields and increase your def , for exemple giving her 2k def and teaming her with sharun
Well okay I was clearly using her in the wrong comp well I'm also running on 1 hour of sleep since I worked last night lol I'll need to try what u did
Ah exactly what I needed
Ah yes... I too love to take 200 turns in AI arena
Hwayoung's fine!
No we got Hwa simps in your chat my guy. They'll probably attack me just for saying this actually :P. Riolet can 1shot Nerfed Vivian as well and with that being true I'm sure other strong single targets can do the same. I mean that's their job after all. If you aint 1 hitting then get back in the kitchen.
Also I'm more surprised you found Specter outside of RTA then anything else. That is such a rare sight for me but I welcome it cuz the defenses tend to be speed runnable.
Would like to see how much her s3 heals without lifesteal
20% hp I think, read that somewhere
Well the lifesteal only apply to herself , other unit recover hp by around 20% of their hp , so i guess its 20% , the dmg is great but the heal based on target hp is realy weak
Most of the time a single unit s1 will deal around 50% of target hp , 200% each turns , so being able to heal up to 80% every 3 turns is not enough
Actualy even if there was 4 ml vivian , it would mean 320% hp every 3 turns , meaning around 110% hp every turns , so she heal around half of target dmg
The good thing is that she reduce dmg by 70% , so the 4 vivian would be able to outheal any dps teams
So i guess you can use her as your main healer in a tank team , for exemple sharun ml crozel ml vivian and christy
@@shirakolee yea that's what i was going for, healing a bruiser comp like aravi or choux would be really good as they also have healing in her kit. Was looking to see if i could get her on destruction set for more damage instead of sustain. But yea 20% for herself without LS seems too low, would need chatty or a soul weaver to heal her up,( or barriers)
i knew bos doggo love mommy vivian from isekai
She’s really not bad but if opponent has Solitaria she’s dead. As she will have no focus at all, Solitaria dispels and stuns…rip
But nonetheless she’s unique
LMAOO that Armin just popped off like crazy
i think you doesnt need hp on ml vivian, if the dmg ml vivian supposed to suffered doesnt reach 25% max hp it will not trigger her s2
Give candle a try
fast
hwayoung fine dude
Counter set?
Why ? Theres nothing good on her s1 , it doesnt even give focus
You lose to Injury, right?
Edit: You do, lol
BLUE COLI ;-; the ultimate hwayoung counter go watch YDCB
Coli counter any team using fire character and is useless against any team not using fire units
Sadly her stun doesnt triger jack passive so she doesnt push allies
She could have been a great ml sez duo !
dont pull for her she is sooo fucking bad! She can nothing rly good. She is oneshot for rimuru and and she dies fast by heros what become second turns ....then no focus no life XD
Nice showcase but the complaining about hwa every vid is annoying
But complaining about hwayoung is a legit thing
@@TheAmirz123 there are so many answers to her, coli, opsig, kise, cleave her. Yulha hard counters all ai hwas. It was his fault he didn't have pov or holy sac against an atk buff hwa. Where's the complaining about aravi, rimuru too?
@@Shiki0414 Can we all agree Rimuru, Hwayoung and A. Ravi are top cancer in PvP? its like 95% of the time we see these SAME meta ass units in Defense Arena, GvG and RTA along with C.Lilias, Belian, Rem, Piera/AoL like my God I hope someday smilegate nerf these units in the ground and buff older Covenant 5 and ML5 units cause this meta is annoying and cancer.
@@jacoryarnett7347 yep I agree 100% rimu hwa aravi being annoying but they keep each other in check somewhat. If something is to be nerfed, all of them need to be nerfed. I'm not against balance. I'm against blaming a unit for bad decisions xD that's why I don't comment on mango vids anymore but I have more respect for doggo as a player and this constant complaining is disappointing me.
You're a hwayoung
apoggers
She isn't that good