If you already made your gameplay blueprint actor/prop/etc, you can also add the Verse tag component to the blueprint instead of doing it in the level. So you will not have to be afraid of having to revisit or skip actors in the level in case you need to add/remove any tags.
Hey Graeme, thanks for tags topic. It is really helpful topic for verse. Also you can use tag system to workaround verse limitations. Example: you can't use vehicle_spawner_device for editables but you can use them by using verse tag system.
This had me wondering, so I looked into it and you're correct you can't use the concrete class, but you can use the abstract classes for each vehicle type which subclass from the concrete one. So, yes, you can use editables no problem as far as I can tell.
so its not possible to edit tags on multiple collectibles at the same time? that kinda defeats the purpose of doing it this way vs events. both methods requires planning it all out before laying it out, and any later major editing is a huge hassle with events im talking about copy pasting the collectible in 1.0, since there it lets you copy outgoing events.
well... you can make one device and then copy that a million times if you need. Then the tag will be on there. I think you're looking for a problem with this method? Also, who still creates in Creative 1.0??
@@GraemeBull Absolutely not looking for a problem with the method. I searched it up to combat that very issue. I hardly use 1.0 myself, but there are certain specific use cases for it. Copying with outgoing events carrying over is one of them. And it doesn't cost any more than a single trigger.
think u can do a tutorial on how to make 2 separate storm circles running at the same time.. I think that would be such a massive game changer for the community
@@GraemeBull Hey i found out from Supreme ( I think?) on the Warforge discord that storms cancel each other out. SO I reckon a THIRD storm would actually work as a storm elsewhere, yes. Crazy a$$ theory but it might just be crazy enough to work? So if you have a storm going in top left corner of map and you want top right corner to be a gulag youd do another storm there to cancel out the active world storm. But if you wanted a storm with different properties i imagine youd make a smaller storm in that then your beacons. Let me know how this goes if oyu test it, ill be testing it later this week hopefully. Got a lot of dev work to get done.
Hey Graeme, Really great content! Tried to use this technique to locate creative prop assets (assets added from the FN defaults) using tags, but this doesn’t seem to work at this stage. Any tips?
hi thanks your videos are always so helpful I've added a load of guard spawners to an array using this tag method, but how do i use them as they are now in an array as creative_devices not Guard_Spawn_device ive tried adding them to an array but not working
you can do that, just a different use case. If you set up the tags then you only have to duplicate the object to get it to register. Setting up an array you have to make sure you add the object to the array. If you delete any on the stage then you have to remember to delete them in the array etc etc.
Let's say I tag 5 triggers and put them in the same class. But each trigger has different purposes, trigger 1 will grant weapon and trigger 2 will give you health etc... Is it still optimal to utilize tags in such cases? or tags are only used when u have a bunch of triggers doing the same exact thing?
Do you know if there's any memory benefit for using tags vs editables? And is there a way to grab a specific item within a tag? Think something like GunGame where each kill you progress to the next gun. (I know there are other ways to do Gungame, just this is the easy example) Or can I use this for ordered spawn points? Lets say I want the player to spawn in spawn 01, then 02, then 03. Can I iterate through the list by name in that way?
If there is a memory benefit, I imagine it's tiny. It's hard to grab a specific one with tags unless you tag it with something else and loop through the collectibles of the next tag as the device doesn't pass in a reference to itself. Kind of a pain to be honest... I don't know the order it makes it's list and I don't know how you'd know which one is which anyways. It's a bit odd but I did make a video over on Patreon talking about this a bit. As I continue to understand it more I'll put something up more solid in the future.
I've been working on the idea of controlling the list that comes back and making each item unique and identifiable, so I think your ideas are possible.
@@GraemeBull Awesome, I saw your Patreon video going deeper into tags and learned a lot there. Super stoked to see more of your content pal. Awesome work with these tutorials and explorations.
Damnnit im between jobs right now or id be in that shiz immediately, consider your days numbered i shall be coming to your patreon to blab about code in no time! (Interview on Friday for next C# Senior/Lead job)@@GraemeBull
Hey! Is it possible to display the Team's score on the HUD using verse? If so, how is it? could you make a video of it, or maybe just send a script please? :D thanks! I love your work, please keep doing it!!
Newbie here. Ive watched a couple of your videos. I am seeing a trend that you reference things and then say theyre not important right now and youll talk about them somewhere else. At that moment, I am now lost and seeking the information you say is not important. It really hurts because your content is great but very lacking when you skip information.
If you already made your gameplay blueprint actor/prop/etc, you can also add the Verse tag component to the blueprint instead of doing it in the level. So you will not have to be afraid of having to revisit or skip actors in the level in case you need to add/remove any tags.
That's interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Handy! Thanks for the tip
Congrats on 1K subs!
Thank you very much! Just woke up to that, it's a nice round number. Could use a couple of zeros on the end though 😂
Hey Graeme, thanks for tags topic. It is really helpful topic for verse. Also you can use tag system to workaround verse limitations.
Example: you can't use vehicle_spawner_device for editables but you can use them by using verse tag system.
That's interesting, I had no idea you couldn't make a vehicle spawner and editable. Why is that I wonder... Thanks for the tip!!
This had me wondering, so I looked into it and you're correct you can't use the concrete class, but you can use the abstract classes for each vehicle type which subclass from the concrete one. So, yes, you can use editables no problem as far as I can tell.
@editable
VehicleSpawner : vehicle_spawner_nitro_drifter_sedan_device = vehicle_spawner_nitro_drifter_sedan_device{}
oh okay like that.
This makes things way more efficient now. Great video thanks!
Glad to help!
so its not possible to edit tags on multiple collectibles at the same time? that kinda defeats the purpose of doing it this way vs events. both methods requires planning it all out before laying it out, and any later major editing is a huge hassle
with events im talking about copy pasting the collectible in 1.0, since there it lets you copy outgoing events.
well... you can make one device and then copy that a million times if you need. Then the tag will be on there. I think you're looking for a problem with this method? Also, who still creates in Creative 1.0??
@@GraemeBull Absolutely not looking for a problem with the method. I searched it up to combat that very issue.
I hardly use 1.0 myself, but there are certain specific use cases for it. Copying with outgoing events carrying over is one of them. And it doesn't cost any more than a single trigger.
think u can do a tutorial on how to make 2 separate storm circles running at the same time.. I think that would be such a massive game changer for the community
Is that possible?
I don't know lol was just kind of hoping it was with verse@@GraemeBull
@@GraemeBull Hey i found out from Supreme ( I think?) on the Warforge discord that storms cancel each other out. SO I reckon a THIRD storm would actually work as a storm elsewhere, yes. Crazy a$$ theory but it might just be crazy enough to work? So if you have a storm going in top left corner of map and you want top right corner to be a gulag youd do another storm there to cancel out the active world storm. But if you wanted a storm with different properties i imagine youd make a smaller storm in that then your beacons. Let me know how this goes if oyu test it, ill be testing it later this week hopefully. Got a lot of dev work to get done.
I saw that too and wondered about it but haven't had time to test it out. Sounds interesting for sure
Great Vid! Thanks for the info!
You're welcome!
great tutorial, thank you!
Thanks! You're welcome
I'm going to have to rework so much of my stuff hahahaha
Hey Graeme, Really great content! Tried to use this technique to locate creative prop assets (assets added from the FN defaults) using tags, but this doesn’t seem to work at this stage. Any tips?
I'm not sure, I've generally only used them on devices so I haven't tested. I would expect it to work though...
@@GraemeBull thanks for your reply. According to my tests it currently does not work, hope it will be added in a future release.
Can you show us the code for displaying those images together with the counter like you are? I didn't find it
I'll do a tutorial soon on more in depth UI stuff. It's all on Epic's site though, nothing special going on here :)
@@GraemeBull you're the best! hope you're aware of that :)
thanks! I appreciate that :)
hi thanks your videos are always so helpful I've added a load of guard spawners to an array using this tag method, but how do i use them as they are now in an array as creative_devices not Guard_Spawn_device ive tried adding them to an array but not working
well.. you have to add them to an array of guard spawner devices type so they can be type cast properly to be used.
Why not make the @editable a array, loop through and subscribe to the event?
you can do that, just a different use case. If you set up the tags then you only have to duplicate the object to get it to register. Setting up an array you have to make sure you add the object to the array. If you delete any on the stage then you have to remember to delete them in the array etc etc.
Ahh okay makes sense thank you@@GraemeBull
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Let's say I tag 5 triggers and put them in the same class.
But each trigger has different purposes, trigger 1 will grant weapon and trigger 2 will give you health etc...
Is it still optimal to utilize tags in such cases?
or tags are only used when u have a bunch of triggers doing the same exact thing?
You can and then use a second tag to make them each unique. I think it has it's benefits.
Do you know if there's any memory benefit for using tags vs editables? And is there a way to grab a specific item within a tag? Think something like GunGame where each kill you progress to the next gun. (I know there are other ways to do Gungame, just this is the easy example)
Or can I use this for ordered spawn points? Lets say I want the player to spawn in spawn 01, then 02, then 03. Can I iterate through the list by name in that way?
If there is a memory benefit, I imagine it's tiny.
It's hard to grab a specific one with tags unless you tag it with something else and loop through the collectibles of the next tag as the device doesn't pass in a reference to itself. Kind of a pain to be honest...
I don't know the order it makes it's list and I don't know how you'd know which one is which anyways. It's a bit odd but I did make a video over on Patreon talking about this a bit. As I continue to understand it more I'll put something up more solid in the future.
I've been working on the idea of controlling the list that comes back and making each item unique and identifiable, so I think your ideas are possible.
@@GraemeBull Awesome, I saw your Patreon video going deeper into tags and learned a lot there. Super stoked to see more of your content pal. Awesome work with these tutorials and explorations.
Thanks for popping over there! Much appreciated. I've got lots more coming as I discover new ways to do things, hopefully it'll be helpful!
Damnnit im between jobs right now or id be in that shiz immediately, consider your days numbered i shall be coming to your patreon to blab about code in no time! (Interview on Friday for next C# Senior/Lead job)@@GraemeBull
Hey! Is it possible to display the Team's score on the HUD using verse? If so, how is it? could you make a video of it, or maybe just send a script please? :D thanks! I love your work, please keep doing it!!
Thanks! Yes it's possible. I'll try to do a tutorial on it when I have some time.
@@GraemeBull awesome! Thank you very very much!
Newbie here. Ive watched a couple of your videos. I am seeing a trend that you reference things and then say theyre not important right now and youll talk about them somewhere else. At that moment, I am now lost and seeking the information you say is not important. It really hurts because your content is great but very lacking when you skip information.
It sounds like my tutorials are not for you. There are lots of others on the internet though, sorry these ones don't help.