What are Horizontal Elevators?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Side aside normal elevators.
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I’ve been wanting to see this since growing up watching ‘StarTrek’ and reflecting in utter amazement as Starship “Turbolift” systems moved people between and betwixt all areas of the ship.
The concept of more than one elevator per shaft in a tall building is a good one.
Perhaps more suited for Groundscrapers.
No, it also has huge benefits for skyscrapers!
Because you can have multiple cabins per shaft that can overtake each other
Willy Wonka was ahead of their time
Willy is a shareholder in this new venture as it happens.
Let us know when elevators can fly like helicopters.
Really cool! This is the future of elevators!
OMG thats soo Nice
I like the idea but the are so many more parts & more parts to go wrong, currently thar are just a motor & cable but with this there are much more moving parts, but I can't wait for the first one to be installed,
surethom current elevators are much more than ropes and cables.
I have had dreams about these elevators for years. For some reason though they have always ended up in disaster for the occupants. The elevators were controlled by computers and were always sending people to the wrong place and they ended up dying
turboshafts from star trek
Should not stop there. Connect the buildings to each other! That might be the innovation everybody is looking for. Use this system to get from A to B in an entire district or city ... and it even brings you to your floor you live in. Huch much better than an electric car? So much better!
so, just like, public transit?
I bet the first people will just keep getting in the lifts again to ride horizontally just for the lulz and bragging rights. Cool story bro.
Definitely.
now what they didn't tell you is that it's an incredibly expensive system as it needs the entirety of the "track" to be covered in magnets and therefore will most likely not be widely used anytime soon
This just goes to prove how the creators of Star Trek were ahead of their time. If you every watched the shows you will remember the turbo lift. That was an elevator that went up and down plus side to side.
Except for the communicators. What we have today is far superior.
Imagine being in one that goes into a parking pocket and puts itself out of service. Hopefully there is a door in that pocket so the passengers don't get trapped!
So it works the same way as railroads? Seems kinda obvious. Surprised nobody thought of this sooner.
This is a Turbolift.
The technology was there a long time ago, but it's about time now.
If you saw the the remake of total recall, we will reach that level one day
It's a Wonkavator!
Who else was thinking of this and was thinking why are they not popular
Good luck with maintenance costs.
You could ride an elevator that moves horizontally, OR you could try this brand new invention called walking.
Edit: Also if 2 elevators were in the same shaft, what would happen if 1 elevator wanted to go from the ground floor straight to floor 20, but some jerk-off the elevator right above it pressed every button? Would the guy have to wait for the other elevator to stop at every floor?
If there's enough space between two downwards going Cabins the one going straight up could change lane and pass the other one. Alternatively the stopping Cabin could switch Lanes to let the other one pass.
That's why they can move horizontally. Your cabin would move to a different shaft and continues downward. Think of the parallel vertical shafts as lanes on a road.
up to 100% more - not 50%...
The name dident give it away lol
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Oh Fred. You delicious man.
this seems really efficient. That´s the future of urban planning
They’re German engineered, what did you expect?
Sounds like a brilliant system, and sort of surprising it hasn't already been tried! Seems like a vertical railway, where more than one train can now run at once and junctions are now possible...
I think the issue here is to adapt magnetic Levitation technology sufficiently to fit it into elevators and to make it work vertically without compromising safety if power runs out. Also Downsizing could be an issue here.
Seems a very good way to be more lost into a building .
This is why i think artist like filmmakers, manga makers, game developers are soo important in our society because they can inspire and also give great ideas to those people that can make those ideas a reality.
I bet there'll be a company called Wonkavator selling these.
I think this will drastically change the way that buildings are constructed, much like how lifts changed the way that buildings were constructed back when they were made. I think we will see far fewer skyscrapers... with more buildings being connected via rail systems, almost like trains, but not quite as seperated from the building.
Why not both, taller buildings all adjoined horizontally too.
These elevators do not enable horizontal conjoinment of buildings, because horizontal conjoinment was already possible with simple foot bridges. And it wasn't really done much at all, so I doubt it will be done now just because horizontal elevators exist.
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see more buildings connected to other buildings with bridges. I just don't think it'll happen, or at least not because of this technology.
Thyssenkrupp 😎
I love this idea
me too
So shouldn't it be called a "Translator" instead of an "Elevator" then?
Bridger Peres Lift 'n' Shift
I'm pretty sure the established terms all around the world aren't going to change.
Can we just all agree to call it a turbo lift?
How bout Pump n Dump?
Couldn't his elevator fly too?
So yeah, pretty far ahead.
Reminds me of the elevators in Harry Potter when he sneaks into the Ministry of Magic
How much would it cost to put the new elevators in existing buildings and how long would the installation take?
Master
That sounds economly unjustified
Most buildings are singular, so unless your commercial/residential building is multiple buildings connected together with bridges you won't need one.
2020 is the year in which everything is happening!! Cannot wait!
Steve Thaysen Oh boy!
Comment of the century right here
Lol
So what I’m hearing is that the Germans have invented the turbolift
Oh wow has it already been 4 years. I live in the area of the "Testturm". The way they build it was also quite interesting. They had a moving platform with a crane that rose with the tower. The spiral facade is actually just a mesh with steel bars under it. Without the mesh the tower is basically just a round concrete cylinder.
Those elevators could connect multiple buildings
Why would it prompt even higher buildings.... Why wouldn't a horizontal elevator prompt wider buildings.... Or continuous horizontal structures like 'The Line'.... ?
I've often dreamt of riding in elevators that moved sideways as well as up and down. I wonder if the inventors had similar dreams that they are now turning into reality.
Man same here always have this weird dream of being in elevators moving side ways and the scary one were it pops out of the top of the building but then moves sideways to another building , dream reader tell us why .
trains are kinda the same thing, elevators are literally called "up trains" in germany, the problem is americans like cars too much
This is truely groundbreaking!
...so this is where Star Trek got Disco's new turbo lifts inspiration from...
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It'sbout time buildings took horizontal distances in consideration along with the verticals. I wonder if it would be possible to retro fit some structures? My concern with the design is the magnetic induction system and the potential effects on implanted medical devices. Such as a pacemaker or other electronic assist circuitry. I have a pacemaker and can't be closer to an induction range. than 2 ft, Cell phone's, and some smart watches. Microwaves are not an issue. I'm sure they've taken it in consideration!
As others have stated you could connect the buildings underground to create a small scale mass transit system. In reference to multiple cars per shaft, you could use past data to predict when each building is going to be busy and send more cars to that building in anticipation. More cars at an office tower during the work day and more cars at a condo tower during the evening, more cars at the sports stadium as the event ends. It's not the perfect solution for all transit but it would make it easier to get around a dense urban core.
If we could leave all cars at the edge of inner cities, it would make the surface level experience a lot more enjoyable. Perhaps vehicles, trams, busses, and trains are the perfect pair where it makes sense to integrate them. It would be nice if that could be done in underground parking garages and train depots. The surface could be entirely devoted to walking, wheelchairs, and bicycles. Hopefully then we see pointless traffic deaths plummet.
Commercial deliveries could be delivered by lorry in connected underground parking ramps as described above or special "maintenance" style elevators could take deliveries by the single pallet directly to their destination. Food and grocery deliveries could be delivered like a dumbwaiter. Special delivery robots with heated warmers and chillers that are built to get off the elevator at your floor and deliver to your door or even inside the door in a special locked foyer.
Firefighters might have a specially designed car filled with equipment that takes the firefighters right from their station to the building. The other cars are programed to leave the shafts or to block the shaft from acting like a flue. Same concept for ambulance cars. The medics could meet the person at the location of the illness or injury and transport them to the hospital in a cart filled with medical gear. The hospital itself could incorporate the elevator system into their triage where the patient stays on their bed in the elevator car and is moved to their specialist or MRI etc. according to priority. You wouldn't need to unplug any IVs or risk a fall during transport or even the simple drive home after a procedure.
The one thing I couldn't tell from the video is why the track needed to make a 90* turn instead of a curved track or gears on the car that turn on a rigid track.
As bougie and wasteful as this sounds, this could lead to "personal" elevators that are primarily docked at the rich person's residence, work, or recreation.
All that aside, just imagine how wonderful our outdoor spaces, like parks, will become without cars, car noise, exhaust, car lights, road rage, honking, etc.
Its not an elevator if it goes horizontal😂
I hope that is Nemo the line will get horizontal elevators 🔨🔩🚜🔧🚧🏗️🦺⚙️🗜️🧱
oh, the Olympic mountain on Mars 😮
well technically a vertical elevator is not an elevator anymore since it doesn't elevate things anymore :D
haha sitik neh lucune
Any news on this System? Still testing?
Maintenance costs skyrocket
I think Diesel Ducy beat you to this one!
No use of the word "despite" - but it was a short video.
so like, a tram?
Joe with the podcats commercials already !! I see ya Joe
What about the huge electricity bills because of this electromagnetic system?
they produce electricity when they go down and se electricity when they go up. you just pay for losses.
When instead of 40% of the building's total space only 20% is used for elevator shafts - which can transport even more people you'll have 20% more usable space for rent and make money from. Even without Energy Recovery this will end up being more efficient than regular elevators simply due to the saved space open for other use.
Once this technology is proven to be reliable...single car elevator shafts will never be used again in tall buildings. There will be the need for 'side pockets' to offline a car that requires more loading time...that car will then simply return to the main tracks. Cars do not need to be in any given order.
I think treating elevators as standalone cars with batteries and regenerative braking would reduce the cost:
1. No hoisting system.
2. Cheap infra structure.
3. Maintenance would not cripple the shaft, only the car.
cars do not have cheap infrastructure, american car centric roads actually are a huge drain on cities economics
Imagine being able to take one elevator from the ground floor to the roof of the Empire State. Or to the penthouse lobby of the Burj Khalifa. Imagine elevators in malls.
How can it be more efficient than a cable elevator with counterweights? If the elevator is 2000 kg, and the counterweight is 1900 kg, the motor only has to exert torque to counter 100 kg. With these new ones, whatever actuation method they use has to counter the full weight of the elevator. The only thing I can think of is maybe it generates electricity via induction as it descends floors, like a hybrid.
Same principle as regenerative braking in trains and cars, exactly.
I think Tesla could use a bunch of these in their giga factory.
Me imagino que ocupan mucho espacio para instalaciones, habrá que verlo en la practica.
whats the elevator company called?
ThyssenKrupp
pretty sweet!
I love that.
When there are more than one elevator in the elevator well, when the top elevator is stopping at many floors, the lower ones will be obstructed too. Still more efficient than having only one elvator in the well tho
If you've been to a modern skyscraper where the elevator to take is assigned to you, and it only stops on certain floors, you'd know it's not a problem.
I think this concept will mostly be used in groundscrappers rather than skyscrapers.
Dang it that was my idea! But it's amazing someone could do it!!
These things will never catch in Skyscrapers......they will take up too much real estate.....only way it would be possible is if the skyscraper was a quarter mile on width.......they may work in underground facility......but not in skyscrapers...
It's claimed that horizontal elevators can increase a building’s usable floor area "by up to 25%" (mentioned in the video).
+Lance Burley how is that? they can utilize much more of the space that is made available for elevators anyway. instead of having 3 cabins you can have three connected tracks with 9 cabins or so.
Also the constraint on the length of the shaft by the cables are no longer there
More here: multi.thyssenkrupp-elevator.com/en/