Calm down viewers this is not a very deep issue. Whether you are for Damina or Enenche you can clearly see the truth objectively. The quest to malign Abel Damina is intense at the moment and don’t be surprised that many people will come out with allegations against him ( Abel Damina ). It is in Abel Daminas right to tell a story he was part of and you and I were not there. Life happens and people change but Jesus remains lord over all. If you can’t talk in the comments, we are closed to opinions now. Come earlier next time to react 🫡
That's bitterness rhetoric. It's said they use such statement to address a "mistake" from their fellow brethren who never said anything bad against them. This is exposing the hearts of church leaders in Africa.
I like this Guy, Dr Abel Damina. He is a sincere servant of God. Undiluted. I can remember very well in 2013 on my way back from Lagos to South Africa after visiting TB Joshua's church. I spotted Dr. Abel Damina on his way to the US. He prayed for me and his lovely beautiful down to earth wife took my phone and took myself and her husband a picture. Dr. Damina encouraged me to stay very close to God's word. Those 10 Minutes in Logos airport was indeed a blessing in my life. God bless him.
When you see three different people use the same phrase "pre-inaugural meeting", relating to the same matter, then give a sequence of events that tally perfectly and then round it off with disclaimers relating to leaving their family alone, that's classic lying. They have been briefed and given the same script to read. That's coaching 101.
Rehearsed counter claim in favor of their favorite pastor of course. Dr. Abel Damina will always earn my respect for accepting such a difficult assignment of sanitizing the Christendom from God. The assignment comes with so much hate.
From what Adamu and Co have said, Dr. Damina did not lie. Damina said "a guy called Adamu received him and gave him a 'place' where they stated congregating. But the 'parlour' became small and they have to move to 80-capacity room in Sharaton Hotel".
It can start as a fellowship or a prayer meeting group. A church don't just start. It must be a group or something small before a church starts. That family is kind of bitter.
God continue to increased and bless His wisdom bestowed on you in Jesus Christ's Name, Amen! You've said the little comment I had wanted to drop as my submission.
Of course they lied .some of the students that I thought before are generals in the army and it doesn't even mean that your students cannot be greater than us. Even our parents in the villages who trained us at the universities were never graduates themselves and we cannot disrespect them just because we now think we are better
Exactly! A parlour according to the dictionary can mean two things. One is in a private house while the other is for receiving guests in a public building.
for me this is damage control. Eneche has caused so much mess. I won't be surprised if he is the one pulling the strings from behind the scenes. He has already said don't bite the hands that fed you and he also said how could a rabbit give birth to an elephant? So I won't say he has been silent. I also think Dr Abel Damina is waiting for Eneche to run his careless mouth again and Damina will then come with the joker 🃏 card. So Eneche is being extremely careful as he knows that Damina is wiser.
The day i started questioning the spirit behind some pastors was the day i went for a programme in House on the rock church in Enugu. A guest pastor was asking people to donate money. He now mentioned that even if the money is blood money, that people should bring it, that the blood of Jesus will wash away the bad part of the money. I pinched myself. Immediately, the resident pastor stood up and collected the mic and corrected that narrative, that anybody with blood money should please dont bother donating. I can't remember the name of that guest pastor and this happened more than 15years ago.
Why is the Adamu's family using almost exact pattern of disclaimer,... As if it was crammed😂. Pit of hell ke,...?😂 Obviously, The level of bitterness dey have against Damina is being sponsored from behind the scene
It is the church that failed our country. Not the politicians. If there's love and unity amongst them and all of them just pray once a month for the country, there would be peace.
Damina was right Hotel lounge in the 90s were referred to as PALORs The context was not necessarily Adamu's house Also, where were they all this time looking for errors before rushing out to say Damina lied?
He said d parlour they were using and not Adamu's parlour they were using. Maybe he meant d parlour in agura hotel became too small as d church was growing and they moved from there to Sheraton. Did adamu deny taken them in? No. Rem he wasn't with them in Abuja so he can't say it as accurate as but there is truth in what Abel Damian said. They should stop all these. Abel Damian is saying d truth period
following you in uganda , really likes damina and his teachings but my heart really felt sad when i heard a pastor saying that a man that trained him or ordain him , that helped him is a lezard and he is a elephant
All this grand standing Enenche is doing through proxies is so, so shameful, disgraceful as far as the facts stated clearly which He Enenche can't refute. It is empty pride by Enenche not to come clean with admitting of the truth of all that Damina has done for him. Enenche Lost the spiritual respect i had for him. Not telling the Truth you know is a Lie. The goods of this filthy world have gotten a big chunk of his faith. I can't help but State this.
I suppose you're upset that Dr. Enenche is focused on his God-given assignment and has chosen not to engage with idle gossipers like yourself. It's surprising that you claim he has lost your respect. Does he even need your respect in the first place? Perhaps you should focus on fulfilling your own life's destiny, and hopefully, you'll be able to make a positive impact for the kingdom of God, just as he has.
@@ayomipo468focus indeed… yet comments like a rat cannot give birth to an antelope comes out…? Or calling all the medical names just to say someone is claiming him…indeed focus
@@ayomipo468Which Focus??? When even Pastor Enenche himself preaches about loyalty saying no one should forget the ladder they once climbed. What Dr. Abel Damina is saying as their spiritual father is true. You stop defending what the people involved has not defended. Remember every help is help. Let's respect all this men of God and move on. I love them all. But Dr. Abel Damina is their Father❤
Take note from Pastor Enenche biography ... "He has been asked to lay down ... " That's where Dr. Abel Damina came in has the spiritual father who asked him to lay down his medical career for the gospel. Pastor Enenche simply chosed not to acknowledge him in that biography. Again that's an act of disloyalty which Enenche himself preaches again. Because that singular act is very divine and life changing. See even the mighty can do great errors ❤ let's not take sight but pray for them all. ❤
Bro, if you read a write up with an open heart and mind you will know those who are Free indeed. By the grace of God I am Free. Christ truth have set me free from anything or anyone trying to make a LIE. Light is Shining Now. Don't follow so called Men of God due to worldly achievement or attainments, reputation. You will not be misled if you follow the Truth Only at every point in time. Is it not Wicked for a Man to have given you a Cup of water when you needed it as your life to Save and help you only for you to think Now that you have grown too big to now be ashamed of the Cup of water that God used whoever to help you. Bro, I don't Ever want to be near there in my life. That is to be ashamed of Christ in other words. QED. God bless
I don't see anything wrong if the church actually started in a parlor. I want to believe at one point while he, Dr Eneche, was still in Adamu's house. They could have used his parlor for devotions. Which he could have out of joy, communicated to his then mentor, Dr Damina. It's usually a thing of excitement, for a young minister to get a praying venue... If Dr Eneche isn't the one sponsoring these infantry media defenses from Apt. Odola and Adamus. I beg of to discourage them, else they would drag him into further mess.
The two main problems of Nigeria since independence are: politicians and pastors. Get rid of these two problems and Nigeria will begin to realize its full potential as a nation.
Abel Damina did not say it was Adams palor. He said that the palor that they were using was probably not enough. However, we have to go for definition of palor, because I believe that palor can be defined as a space in a house, and it can be any house anywhere.
A parlour is also known as "a room in a public building for receiving guests." In Damina's words in dat podcast, he said " the parlour they were using, was no longer enough" He did no say dunamis started at Adamu's parlour. Ask Adamu, did he give eneche a place to stay? Cos eneche had to stay somewhere at abuja. I repeat, Damina did not say the church started at Adamu's house. "the parlour they were using" could have been any parlour in any public building.
Its fact Dr Abel Damina has said it all, he mentioned Panam Percy was there and even mentioned this late Gospel Artis Tom Moses .may his soul rest in peace
George, your analysis are always making sense. At this point, it's clear that whatever @Damina is alleging is true 100%. just a quick observation: follow the line: 1. Enenche had passion for God. got married and was about to travel abroad for further studies. then went to Damina for contact (not for direction) but was given a message from God 2. following God's instruction though Damina, they returned to JOS, Prayed to God for confirmation, then moved to ABUJA (after hearing same from God and his wife hearing same as well) 3. Started ministry and when he (Enench) had gotten a good space (in Sheraton), called Damina to come preach for him ( relevance by association).. etc Do the rest connection plz I think it will be best for Dunamites to maintain their silence. That way, with time other issues will come up and this topic will go. The Adamu family coming out to speak was a wrong move. they just sounded as if there was something wrong if the church began from a room. The persons that spoke focused on saying that the church never stated from a room. There is nothing wrong whether it started in the parlor or in the Kitchen....... the church started and has grown. George listen to the Woman again. the 1st meeting was like a crusade ...... in Agwura hotel??? i just felt that was not true because you can not have a crusade in an hotel (correct me if I'm wrong please). Just because Damina said it started from the parlor then he is a liar from the pit of hell (why spiritualizing this thing na?). Enenche has not spoken directy on the matter... as a matter of fact, this is not an issue but those (pastors) who are not party to the conversation are making it a big deal. why can't they ( those pastors) focus on preaching christ instead of wasting their members time discussing what does not concern them. A pastor will come to church with no message but to discuss what does not any value. How does this whole thing bring souls to Christ? The bottom line is they both persons (Enenche and Damina) had a relationship, they knew each other. full stop!!!!
You guys should not be gullible to let bloggers stir up problems among people. That message was preached in 17 Dec General thanksgivings service and the context was not addressing anyone. It was to buttress a point.
@@revival-fueltv1942you tell us the point. That will make a man of God like Dr Enenche used that kind of word to address whatever. Please stop defending rubbish. This was how you people left Osinachi the gospel singer to kpai, just like that, because you guys can never call a spade a spade.
THE PALOUR THEY WERE USING" ....HE DID NOT SAY ADAMU'S PALOUR. ALSO , WHY IS THE FAMILY REACTING LIKE THAT? DIDN'T THEY HELP ENENCHE IN SOME WAY? ...BITTERNESS!
Judge we don't care about the truth because anybody can convince you to believe that what he is saying is truth. And you can fall for it. However, we care about fact because fact is fact and fact always say I am fact, and you are giving us the fact. We appreciate.
He has not said anything just because he knows Abel is not lying but doesn't know yet how to tackle the issue , evidences are there, Eneche knows too well
What I don't understand is the use of the word "Disrepute." How is the mention of one in connection to the starting of a church "Disrepute." All I see is a man who feels no obligation to be connected to Abel Damina. Damina's story portrays Eneche as a liar because it is against his website's story of his beginning. He wants to portray himself as one who hears directly from God. It is sad. It shows the content of Enenche's heart.
Father always want or wish their children to excel more than them. All fathers feel full fill when their children are successful. But the problem is when these children don't appreciate the sacrifices of their fathers
Abel Damina used to have one week program and ministers conference every year in Uyo. At this time, Papa Orisetjafo used to be Abel Damina spiritual father, which every year he comes to Uyo and minister in the conference. I used to attend the program and minister conference even though I was not a member of Power chapel now known as power city
Abel Damina, said that Adamu accommodated Dr Enenche, and said the small parlour was not big enough, and didn't say that it was Adamus parlour....just my understanding
Did Adamu receive Eneche or not? Did any form of gathering or service take place in Adamus house? I just believe Damina is preaching against what makes 100% of pastors across the world billionaires thats why this hate is there..... .. Abeg ooo i come in peace ✌️
Take note from Pastor Enenche biography ... "He has been asked to lay down ... " That's where Dr. Abel Damina came in has the spiritual father who asked him to lay down his medical career for the gospel. Pastor Enenche simply chosed not to acknowledge him in that biography. Again that's an act of disloyalty which Enenche himself preaches again. Because that singular act is very divine and life changing. See even the mighty can do great errors ❤ let's not take sight but pray for them all. ❤
Dr. Paul Enenche didn’t call anyone rat. It’s all the work of bloggers. That message they cut out was preached on 17 Dec. 2023 and the context that was use was the context of thanksgiving. The more gullible people get, the more bloggers will stir problems.
@@revival-fueltv1942 Here you are again. Are you one of Enenche's spokespersons? Just an honest question cos you have made the same statement under someone else's comment.
@@revival-fueltv1942Everybody knows this. Don't you know how to search for videos on TH-cam? You can use a simple prompt: "Pastor Paul Enenche, Elephant, Rat" and you will probably get a lot of relevant videos.
Uyo "in this context" refers to the annual "Power Word Convention" in Uyo, hosted by Pastor Abel Damina's church every February. During the 1990s and beyond (?), Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor was the main speaker at these yearly conventions. Additionally, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor also speaks at Rev. Dr. Uma Ukpai's annual convention in Uyo in November, and this tradition continues. It's important to clarify that the spiritual father Pastor Abel Damina referred to is not Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, but another individual whose practices Pastor Abel Damina has called out.
Agura Hotel, was it in a warehouse in Agura Hotel? A theatre could also be a parlour by definition or description. Dr. Abel did not say in Adamu house parlour but that Adamu provided a place which in description can be a parlour which later became small for the numbers of participants.
To me, Dr Paul Enenche has not proven any sense of maturity in this matter. He preaches honour and loyalty, he preaches gratitude and respect, it is dishonourable and disloyal, ingratitude and lack of appreciation to "stay quiet" in a situation like this. Why not clear the air and put the issue at rest once and for all. For him not to even mention categorically but in a flimsy manner, any of the things Dr Abel Damina said regarding the beginning of his ministry in his biography shows clearly the bias, motive and personal beef he has with Dr Abel Damina, (my opinion in relation to the facts presented). Dr Paul Enenche has already made derogatory and demeaning statements which any man with a good sense of reasoning and responsibility will know that he was referring to Dr Abel Damina. His statements were targeted at an issue and points to a particular matter, some may deny it but that's the truth. Regarding the issue of where Dunamis started, I think the speakers didn't do their assignment very well. Probably there is a listening comprehension problem. I think Dr Damina will not have all those details if he was not reliably informed by a reliable informant and what he witnessed. The Adamu of a guy sounds bitter and defensive. Why use statements like "a lie/total fallacy from the pit of hell", it is uncalled for? It is simple, put the records straight by making your point. Adamu and Co. clearly shows that they were all put together to say what they said because if you observe, the clip of their confession was edited in different segments of the entire video. It seems they are almost saying the same things with some statements/phrases correlated and precisely put, as if they are reading from a script. By the way, when did it become a bad thing for a church to start from someone's parlour, that Mr Adamu will vent and start using vile words? All the same, Dr Damina was not expected to mention step by step how the Church Dunamis, started and grew. He was simply answering a question asked and will only focus on the relevant issues regarding the question and time given, in an attempt to provide the appropriate answer to the question asked. The fact that the founding members of Dunamis could come out to only refute the parlour issue gives credibility to all what Dr Abel Damina said. Idoma TV being at the helm of broadcasting and publishing any rebuttal or counter-arguments in this matter, speaks volumes. Is it that they are doing all of this without the knowledge of Dr Paul Enenche or he is aware and uses it as his own method of providing answers to the claims made? Just a question that needs an honest answer. We have to be logical and sensible enough in situations like this. Above all, most of the people that have come on air on Idoma TV concerning this issue, are people who are under Dr Paul Enenche's spiritual oversight and are liable to him. Probably he should be aware. Again, Pastor Ibiyeomie is his "covenant brother", they associate well and are good friends. For him to speak against the person of Dr Abel Damina in that manner shows that he considers what Dr Abel Damina said as false, thereby believing his friend. Mind you, that was the reason why Dr Abel Damina put out the video as proof of what he is saying. All the same, we must practice what we preach for others to copy our good example. We follow men of God as they follow CHRIST, nothing more or less. Only JESUS is to be Glorified not men. All in all, thank you George for the facts, very laudable. I must commend you for your honesty and logical presentation, without any sentiments attached in the issues you discuss and bring to the public. Keep doing what you do*
Georgio you said Enenche was exhibiting maturity by not responding? What of his comment that a rat claiming to give birth to an elephant is schizophrenic? I dont know who you are afraid of today
In all fairness to Dr. Paul Enenche his statement about rat was made in 2021 or 2022. This issue about Dr. Abel Damina ordaining him only started late 2023. This means that there is a high probability that he wasn't referring to Dr. Damina. I watched the entire video where he preached that message and I doubt if that statement was from the place of hate or ridicule.
@@sethpatrick3014Even if the statement wasn't for Damina, how can a Pastor say such, that means his father, mother, and all our fathers and mothers are rats and lizards because they gave birth to us, but we are now richer than they are.
I think Dr.Damina is speaking the truth.However,he should stop reacting to what people are saying because it doesn't make him look good as a man of God and a father to congregation. Meanwhile,he is doing a great job in calling out false gospel of prosperity.
I disagree with you, I'm a fashion designer that has trained many, if any of my students who are now doing well comes out tomorrow to deny me, and gives the credit to another trending designer, I will not be happy. Although, I don't like the way all these pastors are heading, I pity their congregations.
i agree. And Dr Abel Damina while given the opportunity to preach Christ and enlighten people, he has been asked questions and is also an avenue for him to defend himself especially when people are calling him liar, mad, jealous, unsuccessful, envious, rat 🐀 and 🐇
@@nkoliblessing4227 He has defended himself enough.He has nothing to prove to them again.The video evidence is there.He just needs to keep silent at this point.
I think their claims would have been more credible if only they were not seated on the same set, same camera shot and same lighting , taking turns repeating the same things each one of them was saying. Isn’t this just apparently well arranged… what do I know…
Tomorrow you will see Dr Damina and Enenche and Suleiman playing video game. Just the way we saw Orokpo and Ogebe together after the heated social media frenzy.
What about prayer they started in your parlour? Because normally that is how Nigeria churches started. They are all lying against Abel because he preached tithing 😅
After watching all the analysis on social media, we always wait for Being Real George to come and tell us. Your channel has a unique taste. E be like say you are the G.O of Social media reactivists. You should start branches 😂
The emphasis 'a lie from the pit of hell' is a sign that they are not happy with Damina. Of course Abel Damina might have assumed it began from the man's parlour owing to the fact that he might have been the first or one of the first Abuja contact of Enenche. I want to say here that the issue here is not where church started, instead,"who ordained Enenche". I have held Enenche in high esteem all these years but his silence on this matter, for me, in questionable. There's a conspiracy of some church leaders against Damina. But time shall tell
What is the need for all this and infighting ? Is that what God has called us into? This is a pure distraction from the pit of hell.All this arguement or confusion is not of God.
George, all these people disclaiming Dr Abel are shameless shameful. What is their interest? Dr Abel Damina said, the Parlor they were using became small, he did NOT say the Parlor belong to these hateful unbeliever of the gospel calling themselves Christians who are hateful and bitter about Dr Abel Damina
The only question/concerns and maybe I might have missed this is, why won’t Damina release the video of the ordination of Enenche? Why was the video where he mentioned he went to help Enenche preach release instead? I dont attend any of these churches so not taking sides and again I might have missed a video on this!
But please what’s the need of all this? Because this not the ultimate weather the church starts from the village or from sokoto. The aim is for Christ to be preached. Please pastors you people should stop talking about yourselves and save souls i think thats the paramount thing.
He should be ashamed of himself, he made him and just because u have bigger church to never make you bigger than him or not to know hi😢 , this people should remember God
As much as I like Abel Damina, I see pride in Him. How can you call a grown man “my boy”? Even if He grew up under Him, there are more respectful ways to address people.
Nothing wrong in it. It shows closeness to be called so by a senior person or boss or mentor. Its only those very close that are called so. A privilege even
lol Comedian Journalist George!! On a more serious note, I have followed Abel Damina since late 90’s when I lived in Calabar not too far from Uyo. This whole thing is not really news to some of us. Abel Damina, Ayo Oritsejafor, Mike Okonkowo, Uma Ukpai and a few others in charismatic circles if you started ministry in 90’s in Nigeria chances are that these were the men of God you looked up to, based on their fiery preaching style at the time and way they communicated. I imagine young preachers at the time did not have many televangelist to model after so it makes sense that many of the preachers that started in 90’s considered them mentors or fathers. I know a close friend pastor here in Atlanta that is a close friend of both Enenche and Damina. All this stuff is not really news
Throwing facts and evidences here and there! My question is, to what end is this? Why are we dragging left and right and pulling evidences even when he admitted that Enenche has not rebuffed the claims? Smh! Lord have mercy!
Pastor Ayo was Abel Damina spiritual father, it was Wlbc Damina use to pay tithe and it was the same tithe that brought their quarrel... As the tithe he was bringing in was reducing 😂... That was what led to his reform of tithing. So pastor Ayo stopped inviting him or going to his program.... This story was hot in the Church many years ago 😅
Abel did no mention the place they started from, what he said is that they moved to Sheraton hotel. Period. So, Mr. Man coming out to say it is a lie I don’t believe u...
Imagine Jesus comes in the midst of all these saga.. Imagine our faces standing before the LORD See how the church is washing her dirty linen in public... And to my fellow commenters, i dont think George 's aim of posting these videos is for us to say negative words.. remember, we shall all give account of every careless words we have spoken..by our words we shall be acquitted and by our words we shall be condemned. Let's know God will bring our comments to book too. George is not insulting anyone so we have no excuse
Why will all these mentioned people hate Damina that none of them could spill just one truth for Godsake. Same thing with Paul Odola. These ppl don't have the fear of God. Many things Abel have said that seem truthful
I see stupidity and madness. Most ministers start what they call ministry or fellowship then after a while they turn it to church. Abel Damina is correct and true. What do these people mean by meetings? Paul Enenche need to tell it right. Now he did not mention that he was also ordained by Bishop David Oyedepo in Lagos in November 1998. Many pastors were ordained in that meeting and I am one of them. Why did he omit that in his biography?
I gave you two options. One is consent and 2 is maturity . You pick one. To analyze you guide the audience where things are blurry and not pick sides when you are being objective
Calm down viewers this is not a very deep issue. Whether you are for Damina or Enenche you can clearly see the truth objectively. The quest to malign Abel Damina is intense at the moment and don’t be surprised that many people will come out with allegations against him ( Abel Damina ).
It is in Abel Daminas right to tell a story he was part of and you and I were not there. Life happens and people change but Jesus remains lord over all.
If you can’t talk in the comments, we are closed to opinions now. Come earlier next time to react 🫡
Hello George, the way these men are stressing "from the pit of hell"' is enough to note they are against Abel Damina hence they lied.
That's bitterness rhetoric. It's said they use such statement to address a "mistake" from their fellow brethren who never said anything bad against them. This is exposing the hearts of church leaders in Africa.
I like this Guy, Dr Abel Damina. He is a sincere servant of God. Undiluted. I can remember very well in 2013 on my way back from Lagos to South Africa after visiting TB Joshua's church. I spotted Dr. Abel Damina on his way to the US. He prayed for me and his lovely beautiful down to earth wife took my phone and took myself and her husband a picture. Dr. Damina encouraged me to stay very close to God's word. Those 10 Minutes in Logos airport was indeed a blessing in my life.
God bless him.
When you see three different people use the same phrase "pre-inaugural meeting", relating to the same matter, then give a sequence of events that tally perfectly and then round it off with disclaimers relating to leaving their family alone, that's classic lying. They have been briefed and given the same script to read. That's coaching 101.
That's very correct 👍 I noticed that too
Correct, they were informed on what to say
You are a lawyer 😂
Well said
Rehearsed counter claim in favor of their favorite pastor of course. Dr. Abel Damina will always earn my respect for accepting such a difficult assignment of sanitizing the Christendom from God. The assignment comes with so much hate.
From what Adamu and Co have said, Dr. Damina did not lie. Damina said "a guy called Adamu received him and gave him a 'place' where they stated congregating. But the 'parlour' became small and they have to move to 80-capacity room in Sharaton Hotel".
Is Agura hotel or cultural center a parlor?
@@revival-fueltv1942 A parlour could be in any place. Study English Language
@@revival-fueltv1942 agura hotel or cultural centre don't have parlours in them?
It can start as a fellowship or a prayer meeting group. A church don't just start.
It must be a group or something small before a church starts.
That family is kind of bitter.
Adamu's family has been.....😂😂
God continue to increased and bless His wisdom bestowed on you in Jesus Christ's Name, Amen!
You've said the little comment I had wanted to drop as my submission.
The family coming out to say pit of hell does not make sense
Clarification doesn’t mean you have to call someone a liar from a pit of hell.
Of course they lied .some of the students that I thought before are generals in the army and it doesn't even mean that your students cannot be greater than us. Even our parents in the villages who trained us at the universities were never graduates themselves and we cannot disrespect them just because we now think we are better
Abel Damina said The parlour they were using and not Adamu's parlour. People won't listen well before running to conclusions.
Don't mind them
Exactly oooo. That was what I was going to say oo.
True!
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Exactly! A parlour according to the dictionary can mean two things. One is in a private house while the other is for receiving guests in a public building.
George you are very smart and intelligent. Your analyses is always on point.
for me this is damage control. Eneche has caused so much mess. I won't be surprised if he is the one pulling the strings from behind the scenes. He has already said don't bite the hands that fed you and he also said how could a rabbit give birth to an elephant? So I won't say he has been silent. I also think Dr Abel Damina is waiting for Eneche to run his careless mouth again and Damina will then come with the joker 🃏 card. So Eneche is being extremely careful as he knows that Damina is wiser.
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The day i started questioning the spirit behind some pastors was the day i went for a programme in House on the rock church in Enugu. A guest pastor was asking people to donate money. He now mentioned that even if the money is blood money, that people should bring it, that the blood of Jesus will wash away the bad part of the money. I pinched myself. Immediately, the resident pastor stood up and collected the mic and corrected that narrative, that anybody with blood money should please dont bother donating. I can't remember the name of that guest pastor and this happened more than 15years ago.
Why is the Adamu's family using almost exact pattern of disclaimer,... As if it was crammed😂.
Pit of hell ke,...?😂 Obviously, The level of bitterness dey have against Damina is being sponsored from behind the scene
It is the church that failed our country. Not the politicians. If there's love and unity amongst them and all of them just pray once a month for the country, there would be peace.
Spot on👌 Clearly sponsored. Enenches language.
Damina was right
Hotel lounge in the 90s were referred to as PALORs
The context was not necessarily Adamu's house
Also, where were they all this time looking for errors before rushing out to say Damina lied?
Is cultural center also a parlor?
@@revival-fueltv1942 listen to them, it was a transient location to sharaton
Waite a minute am loving this man called Able Damina
He said d parlour they were using and not Adamu's parlour they were using. Maybe he meant d parlour in agura hotel became too small as d church was growing and they moved from there to Sheraton. Did adamu deny taken them in? No. Rem he wasn't with them in Abuja so he can't say it as accurate as but there is truth in what Abel Damian said. They should stop all these. Abel Damian is saying d truth period
Why are they strangling to accept the truth that Dr Anenche was ordained by Dr Abel?
following you in uganda , really likes damina and his teachings but my heart really felt sad when i heard a pastor saying that a man that trained him or ordain him , that helped him is a lezard and he is a elephant
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You don't need to feel bad only pray for him @@waselisette1714
How have all these wizards helped the country grow?
All this grand standing Enenche is doing through proxies is so, so shameful, disgraceful as far as the facts stated clearly which He Enenche can't refute. It is empty pride by Enenche not to come clean with admitting of the truth of all that Damina has done for him. Enenche Lost the spiritual respect i had for him. Not telling the Truth you know is a Lie. The goods of this filthy world have gotten a big chunk of his faith. I can't help but State this.
I suppose you're upset that Dr. Enenche is focused on his God-given assignment and has chosen not to engage with idle gossipers like yourself. It's surprising that you claim he has lost your respect. Does he even need your respect in the first place? Perhaps you should focus on fulfilling your own life's destiny, and hopefully, you'll be able to make a positive impact for the kingdom of God, just as he has.
@@ayomipo468focus indeed… yet comments like a rat cannot give birth to an antelope comes out…? Or calling all the medical names just to say someone is claiming him…indeed focus
@@ayomipo468Which Focus??? When even Pastor Enenche himself preaches about loyalty saying no one should forget the ladder they once climbed. What Dr. Abel Damina is saying as their spiritual father is true. You stop defending what the people involved has not defended. Remember every help is help. Let's respect all this men of God and move on. I love them all. But Dr. Abel Damina is their Father❤
Take note from Pastor Enenche biography ... "He has been asked to lay down ... " That's where Dr. Abel Damina came in has the spiritual father who asked him to lay down his medical career for the gospel. Pastor Enenche simply chosed not to acknowledge him in that biography. Again that's an act of disloyalty which Enenche himself preaches again. Because that singular act is very divine and life changing. See even the mighty can do great errors ❤ let's not take sight but pray for them all. ❤
Bro, if you read a write up with an open heart and mind you will know those who are Free indeed. By the grace of God I am Free. Christ truth have set me free from anything or anyone trying to make a LIE. Light is Shining Now. Don't follow so called Men of God due to worldly achievement or attainments, reputation. You will not be misled if you follow the Truth Only at every point in time. Is it not Wicked for a Man to have given you a Cup of water when you needed it as your life to Save and help you only for you to think Now that you have grown too big to now be ashamed of the Cup of water that God used whoever to help you. Bro, I don't Ever want to be near there in my life. That is to be ashamed of Christ in other words. QED. God bless
"The parlour" they were using not "Adamu's parlour" they were using. Why didn't Adamu say he lied about him giving them help.
I don't see anything wrong if the church actually started in a parlor. I want to believe at one point while he, Dr Eneche, was still in Adamu's house. They could have used his parlor for devotions. Which he could have out of joy, communicated to his then mentor, Dr Damina. It's usually a thing of excitement, for a young minister to get a praying venue...
If Dr Eneche isn't the one sponsoring these infantry media defenses from Apt. Odola and Adamus. I beg of to discourage them, else they would drag him into further mess.
@@ayokahenry7396 that’s what I was saying because for Abel Damina to know such detail to bring out the said Adamu on social media….
Enenche is a scam. He is replying Abel Damina codedly. Enenche should be ashamed of himself period
You are not OK! Before you talk please think and may God help you!.
He is playing James Bond😂😂
How much u get for u bank and heavenly account...ur accounts are scam
Be careful of all these people that go to mountains to seek the face of God.
The two main problems of Nigeria since independence are: politicians and pastors. Get rid of these two problems and Nigeria will begin to realize its full potential as a nation.
Absolutely 🎉
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@@deleamedu2220 both starts with a P and ends with a S
Abel Damina did not say it was Adams palor. He said that the palor that they were using was probably not enough. However, we have to go for definition of palor, because I believe that palor can be defined as a space in a house, and it can be any house anywhere.
@@emekaochu8352 parlor in NIGERIA means leaving room where you host visitors, have TV etc… 😊👍…
You are absolutely spot on and just said what l was about to say
Ibiyemi with witch life
@BeingRealGeorge
@@BeingRealGeorge😂😂😂😂
This white looks goood on you❤
More grace 👑 George
How do you know a church is a business? 🤔 These guys are not fighting over Jesus Christ or salvation, it's about tithe, building and crowd. 😅😅😅
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I swear
A parlour is also known as "a room in a public building for receiving guests." In Damina's words in dat podcast, he said " the parlour they were using, was no longer enough" He did no say dunamis started at Adamu's parlour.
Ask Adamu, did he give eneche a place to stay? Cos eneche had to stay somewhere at abuja. I repeat, Damina did not say the church started at Adamu's house. "the parlour they were using" could have been any parlour in any public building.
Abel was not lying in his statements
Its fact Dr Abel Damina has said it all, he mentioned Panam Percy was there and even mentioned this late Gospel Artis Tom Moses .may his soul rest in peace
When they were together collecting the money. There was no problem. Expanding and extending. Boi
George, your analysis are always making sense.
At this point, it's clear that whatever @Damina is alleging is true 100%.
just a quick observation:
follow the line:
1. Enenche had passion for God. got married and was about to travel abroad for further studies. then went to Damina for contact (not for direction) but was given a message from God
2. following God's instruction though Damina, they returned to JOS, Prayed to God for confirmation, then moved to ABUJA (after hearing same from God and his wife hearing same as well)
3. Started ministry and when he (Enench) had gotten a good space (in Sheraton), called Damina to come preach for him ( relevance by association).. etc Do the rest connection plz
I think it will be best for Dunamites to maintain their silence. That way, with time other issues will come up and this topic will go.
The Adamu family coming out to speak was a wrong move.
they just sounded as if there was something wrong if the church began from a room. The persons that spoke focused on saying that the church never stated from a room. There is nothing wrong whether it started in the parlor or in the Kitchen....... the church started and has grown.
George listen to the Woman again. the 1st meeting was like a crusade ...... in Agwura hotel??? i just felt that was not true because you can not have a crusade in an hotel (correct me if I'm wrong please). Just because Damina said it started from the parlor then he is a liar from the pit of hell (why spiritualizing this thing na?).
Enenche has not spoken directy on the matter... as a matter of fact, this is not an issue but those (pastors) who are not party to the conversation are making it a big deal. why can't they ( those pastors) focus on preaching christ instead of wasting their members time discussing what does not concern them. A pastor will come to church with no message but to discuss what does not any value.
How does this whole thing bring souls to Christ?
The bottom line is they both persons (Enenche and Damina) had a relationship, they knew each other. full stop!!!!
I would have given you 50 kposa, 💪💪💪 but take only three, because I want to continue going through the comments. 😂 Oil is on your head.
What of the 500 million that eneche received from an occultic man. Them no go mention that one baa
Where is this coming from
Enenche denied saying when you see a rat claiming it gave birth to an elephant, madness is worrying it. His words
The only reason why he is quiet now is because if he dares deny any further videos will be released and he will be embarrassed
You guys should not be gullible to let bloggers stir up problems among people. That message was preached in 17 Dec General thanksgivings service and the context was not addressing anyone. It was to buttress a point.
@@revival-fueltv1942 story for the gods
@@revival-fueltv1942you tell us the point. That will make a man of God like Dr Enenche used that kind of word to address whatever. Please stop defending rubbish. This was how you people left Osinachi the gospel singer to kpai, just like that, because you guys can never call a spade a spade.
What is the need for all this and infighting ? Is this what God has called us to do ? This is a pure distraction from the pit of hell.
Is not any distraction sir, you must put things straight, God is not auto of confusion
George, you got it wrong here. Enenche reacted when he head something to the effect that "a rat cannot birth an elephant "
Where is your fact? What did he say?
George, Pst Enenche used figurative statements to address these issues in one of his church services.
@@KingdomstarHe didn't call names. If he's mature enough and honest then he should call names and speak directly
THE PALOUR THEY WERE USING" ....HE DID NOT SAY ADAMU'S PALOUR. ALSO , WHY IS THE FAMILY REACTING LIKE THAT? DIDN'T THEY HELP ENENCHE IN SOME WAY? ...BITTERNESS!
Don't mind them, this was how they supported Osinachi 's husband, till he kpai Osinachi.
Enenche forced them to say it
Judge we don't care about the truth because anybody can convince you to believe that what he is saying is truth. And you can fall for it. However, we care about fact because fact is fact and fact always say I am fact, and you are giving us the fact. We appreciate.
All of these witnesses are Eneche's mouth piece. He is not saying anything, but these ones are his 📢📢📢
Enenche is speaking very loudly thru all of them. But acting like he's not saying anything.
He has not said anything just because he knows Abel is not lying but doesn't know yet how to tackle the issue , evidences are there, Eneche knows too well
Doesn't know how to tackle the issue😂 knows its true
Great analysis 👍. Pls, keep it up BRG.
damina didn't say from adamu's room...he said from the small room they were using to the hotel, because the room was too small🤏
@@wilberforcewalker2369 small Parlor . Parlor is a section in a home
Figure of speach@@BeingRealGeorge
Parlor is also a room in a public building for receiving guests. Not only in a home. Check the dictionary.
What I don't understand is the use of the word "Disrepute." How is the mention of one in connection to the starting of a church "Disrepute."
All I see is a man who feels no obligation to be connected to Abel Damina. Damina's story portrays Eneche as a liar because it is against his website's story of his beginning. He wants to portray himself as one who hears directly from God. It is sad. It shows the content of Enenche's heart.
Father always want or wish their children to excel more than them. All fathers feel full fill when their children are successful. But the problem is when these children don't appreciate the sacrifices of their fathers
God bless pst Abel damia
Abel Damina used to have one week program and ministers conference every year in Uyo. At this time, Papa Orisetjafo used to be Abel Damina spiritual father, which every year he comes to Uyo and minister in the conference. I used to attend the program and minister conference even though I was not a member of Power chapel now known as power city
Abel Damina, said that Adamu accommodated Dr Enenche, and said the small parlour was not big enough, and didn't say that it was Adamus parlour....just my understanding
People hated Abel DAMINA for no reason
Cos he has gotten out from Babylon the great...he is understanding gradually
Satan will instigate people to hate you for speaking the truth
@@HenryLivingstoneinstigate his people not all the people
Did Adamu receive Eneche or not?
Did any form of gathering or service take place in Adamus house?
I just believe Damina is preaching against what makes 100% of pastors across the world billionaires thats why this hate is there.....
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Abeg ooo i come in peace ✌️
Take note from Pastor Enenche biography ... "He has been asked to lay down ... " That's where Dr. Abel Damina came in has the spiritual father who asked him to lay down his medical career for the gospel. Pastor Enenche simply chosed not to acknowledge him in that biography. Again that's an act of disloyalty which Enenche himself preaches again. Because that singular act is very divine and life changing. See even the mighty can do great errors ❤ let's not take sight but pray for them all. ❤
George eeeee, yes o o o, he is teaching good 😂😂
I think the issue came in when Paul Enenche called someone a rat..
Dr. Paul Enenche didn’t call anyone rat. It’s all the work of bloggers. That message they cut out was preached on 17 Dec. 2023 and the context that was use was the context of thanksgiving. The more gullible people get, the more bloggers will stir problems.
@@revival-fueltv1942 Here you are again. Are you one of Enenche's spokespersons? Just an honest question cos you have made the same statement under someone else's comment.
@@revival-fueltv1942Everybody knows this. Don't you know how to search for videos on TH-cam? You can use a simple prompt: "Pastor Paul Enenche, Elephant, Rat" and you will probably get a lot of relevant videos.
Paul Eneche is sending people to do his damage control. Odola doing his damage control said a alot about his character
Maybe they had home cell in their house. Most of the churches started then, started like that. I’m a Pentecostal product
Fact
My thought
Uyo "in this context" refers to the annual "Power Word Convention" in Uyo, hosted by Pastor Abel Damina's church every February. During the 1990s and beyond (?), Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor was the main speaker at these yearly conventions. Additionally, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor also speaks at Rev. Dr. Uma Ukpai's annual convention in Uyo in November, and this tradition continues.
It's important to clarify that the spiritual father Pastor Abel Damina referred to is not Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, but another individual whose practices Pastor Abel Damina has called out.
Also, I expected Adamu to say He Did Not Sponsor the Change of Location rather he only talked about the palor statement bro😂
Exactly😂 Adamu should have said he didn't sponsor Sheraton. Enenche is a "Giant" now so Adamu must obey
Oh Lord, how is the great commission finished that the very elect only seek their bellies than your word😭
Agura Hotel, was it in a warehouse in Agura Hotel? A theatre could also be a parlour by definition or description. Dr. Abel did not say in Adamu house parlour but that Adamu provided a place which in description can be a parlour which later became small for the numbers of participants.
To me, Dr Paul Enenche has not proven any sense of maturity in this matter. He preaches honour and loyalty, he preaches gratitude and respect, it is dishonourable and disloyal, ingratitude and lack of appreciation to "stay quiet" in a situation like this. Why not clear the air and put the issue at rest once and for all. For him not to even mention categorically but in a flimsy manner, any of the things Dr Abel Damina said regarding the beginning of his ministry in his biography shows clearly the bias, motive and personal beef he has with Dr Abel Damina, (my opinion in relation to the facts presented).
Dr Paul Enenche has already made derogatory and demeaning statements which any man with a good sense of reasoning and responsibility will know that he was referring to Dr Abel Damina. His statements were targeted at an issue and points to a particular matter, some may deny it but that's the truth.
Regarding the issue of where Dunamis started, I think the speakers didn't do their assignment very well. Probably there is a listening comprehension problem. I think Dr Damina will not have all those details if he was not reliably informed by a reliable informant and what he witnessed. The Adamu of a guy sounds bitter and defensive. Why use statements like "a lie/total fallacy from the pit of hell", it is uncalled for? It is simple, put the records straight by making your point. Adamu and Co. clearly shows that they were all put together to say what they said because if you observe, the clip of their confession was edited in different segments of the entire video. It seems they are almost saying the same things with some statements/phrases correlated and precisely put, as if they are reading from a script. By the way, when did it become a bad thing for a church to start from someone's parlour, that Mr Adamu will vent and start using vile words? All the same, Dr Damina was not expected to mention step by step how the Church Dunamis, started and grew. He was simply answering a question asked and will only focus on the relevant issues regarding the question and time given, in an attempt to provide the appropriate answer to the question asked. The fact that the founding members of Dunamis could come out to only refute the parlour issue gives credibility to all what Dr Abel Damina said.
Idoma TV being at the helm of broadcasting and publishing any rebuttal or counter-arguments in this matter, speaks volumes. Is it that they are doing all of this without the knowledge of Dr Paul Enenche or he is aware and uses it as his own method of providing answers to the claims made? Just a question that needs an honest answer. We have to be logical and sensible enough in situations like this. Above all, most of the people that have come on air on Idoma TV concerning this issue, are people who are under Dr Paul Enenche's spiritual oversight and are liable to him. Probably he should be aware.
Again, Pastor Ibiyeomie is his "covenant brother", they associate well and are good friends. For him to speak against the person of Dr Abel Damina in that manner shows that he considers what Dr Abel Damina said as false, thereby believing his friend. Mind you, that was the reason why Dr Abel Damina put out the video as proof of what he is saying.
All the same, we must practice what we preach for others to copy our good example. We follow men of God as they follow CHRIST, nothing more or less. Only JESUS is to be Glorified not men.
All in all, thank you George for the facts, very laudable. I must commend you for your honesty and logical presentation, without any sentiments attached in the issues you discuss and bring to the public. Keep doing what you do*
Why are they so emphatical about where the church started
It’s that an issue?
Well, in my own opinion, the should hand him[Anel Damina] his flowers 🎉 even though they no longer preach the same gospel.
Georgio you said Enenche was exhibiting maturity by not responding? What of his comment that a rat claiming to give birth to an elephant is schizophrenic? I dont know who you are afraid of today
Facts over Sentiments… I have no sentiments… learn quickly. No names were mentioned and that’s fact
that way
In all fairness to Dr. Paul Enenche his statement about rat was made in 2021 or 2022.
This issue about Dr. Abel Damina ordaining him only started late 2023. This means that there is a high probability that he wasn't referring to Dr. Damina.
I watched the entire video where he preached that message and I doubt if that statement was from the place of hate or ridicule.
@@sethpatrick3014Even if the statement wasn't for Damina, how can a Pastor say such, that means his father, mother, and all our fathers and mothers are rats and lizards because they gave birth to us, but we are now richer than they are.
The family is reading a script. Though they tried hard to sound different you can tell it’s a script.
I think Dr.Damina is speaking the truth.However,he should stop reacting to what people are saying because it doesn't make him look good as a man of God and a father to congregation. Meanwhile,he is doing a great job in calling out false gospel of prosperity.
I disagree with you, I'm a fashion designer that has trained many, if any of my students who are now doing well comes out tomorrow to deny me, and gives the credit to another trending designer, I will not be happy. Although, I don't like the way all these pastors are heading, I pity their congregations.
i agree. And Dr Abel Damina while given the opportunity to preach Christ and enlighten people, he has been asked questions and is also an avenue for him to defend himself especially when people are calling him liar, mad, jealous, unsuccessful, envious, rat 🐀 and 🐇
@@AO.1328.And lizard🦎...😅
@@newcreation-A 😆😅
@@nkoliblessing4227 He has defended himself enough.He has nothing to prove to them again.The video evidence is there.He just needs to keep silent at this point.
Hey BRG, how you dey? happy weekend
All is good
They reacted to an aspect of Damian's comment that isn't clear. Tell them to debunk all he said
I love dr Abel damina with passion
I think their claims would have been more credible if only they were not seated on the same set, same camera shot and same lighting , taking turns repeating the same things each one of them was saying. Isn’t this just apparently well arranged… what do I know…
Tomorrow you will see Dr Damina and Enenche and Suleiman playing video game. Just the way we saw Orokpo and Ogebe together after the heated social media frenzy.
Honestly, we need to study, restudy and understudy that laughter as you said.
Damina did not say the parlour they were using belonged to Adamu o!
Adamu did not deny not accommodating Enenche!
@@IamKaska but if he said they were helped by the Adamu and PROBABLY STAYED WITH HIM, whose parlor will it be?
@@BeingRealGeorge parlour does not necessarily mean someone's sitting room! Let's check the meaning of palour, I'll be back!
It could be anybody's parlour and not necessarily Adamu's parlour.@@BeingRealGeorge
And from what adamu and Co had said, they didn't also deny that no fellowship took place!
@@IamKaska have you seen the new person coming for Damina now? There is just an organized attempt to malign him I guess
What about prayer they started in your parlour? Because normally that is how Nigeria churches started. They are all lying against Abel because he preached tithing 😅
Paid family what do you think the must say?? Pit of Hell why using harsh words..
Sunday service go hot, I will tune in to dunamis service 😂😂
After watching all the analysis on social media, we always wait for Being Real George to come and tell us. Your channel has a unique taste.
E be like say you are the G.O of Social media reactivists. You should start branches 😂
The emphasis 'a lie from the pit of hell' is a sign that they are not happy with Damina. Of course Abel Damina might have assumed it began from the man's parlour owing to the fact that he might have been the first or one of the first Abuja contact of Enenche. I want to say here that the issue here is not where church started, instead,"who ordained Enenche". I have held Enenche in high esteem all these years but his silence on this matter, for me, in questionable. There's a conspiracy of some church leaders against Damina. But time shall tell
Ibiyome's laugh is pointing towards witchcraft😮
Not cool to say
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@BeingRealGeorge it's actually cool to say. It was a wicked laugh
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What is the need for all this and infighting ? Is that what God has called us into? This is a pure distraction from the pit of hell.All this arguement or confusion is not of God.
George, all these people disclaiming Dr Abel are shameless shameful. What is their interest? Dr Abel Damina said, the Parlor they were using became small, he did NOT say the Parlor belong to these hateful unbeliever of the gospel calling themselves Christians who are hateful and bitter about Dr Abel Damina
The only question/concerns and maybe I might have missed this is, why won’t Damina release the video of the ordination of Enenche? Why was the video where he mentioned he went to help Enenche preach release instead? I dont attend any of these churches so not taking sides and again I might have missed a video on this!
You are still looking for drama
Could the official commissioning have ruled out the Adamu connections? There is no need for all these things.
But please what’s the need of all this? Because this not the ultimate weather the church starts from the village or from sokoto. The aim is for Christ to be preached. Please pastors you people should stop talking about yourselves and save souls i think thats the paramount thing.
He should be ashamed of himself, he made him and just because u have bigger church to never make you bigger than him or not to know hi😢 , this people should remember God
Really we are tired of this mess. Christianity is about Jésus not about pastors . JESUS ALONE
NIGERIA THE GIFT THAT KEEP ON GIVING😬😬😬
As much as I like Abel Damina, I see pride in Him. How can you call a grown man “my boy”? Even if He grew up under Him, there are more respectful ways to address people.
If Abel Damina played a role in Enenches life, He Enenche should have acknowledged Damina at least.
They were his boys it's facts I was there,nothing wrong with what he has said
No matter your age, you can not be too older than your dad's boy
Nothing wrong in it. It shows closeness to be called so by a senior person or boss or mentor. Its only those very close that are called so. A privilege even
lol Comedian Journalist George!!
On a more serious note, I have followed Abel Damina since late 90’s when I lived in Calabar not too far from Uyo. This whole thing is not really news to some of us. Abel Damina, Ayo Oritsejafor, Mike Okonkowo, Uma Ukpai and a few others in charismatic circles if you started ministry in 90’s in Nigeria chances are that these were the men of God you looked up to, based on their fiery preaching style at the time and way they communicated. I imagine young preachers at the time did not have many televangelist to model after so it makes sense that many of the preachers that started in 90’s considered them mentors or fathers. I know a close friend pastor here in Atlanta that is a close friend of both Enenche and Damina. All this stuff is not really news
Secondly pst Paul didn't categorically called him a rat it is just the media that has taken it out of context
Throwing facts and evidences here and there! My question is, to what end is this? Why are we dragging left and right and pulling evidences even when he admitted that Enenche has not rebuffed the claims? Smh! Lord have mercy!
The Adamu just sounded like a real Adamu... Let him just return back to to his gate
Pastor Ayo was Abel Damina spiritual father, it was Wlbc Damina use to pay tithe and it was the same tithe that brought their quarrel... As the tithe he was bringing in was reducing 😂... That was what led to his reform of tithing. So pastor Ayo stopped inviting him or going to his program.... This story was hot in the Church many years ago 😅
The church most have started as a house fellowship.
Abel did no mention the place they started from, what he said is that they moved to Sheraton hotel. Period. So, Mr. Man coming out to say it is a lie I don’t believe u...
Imagine Jesus comes in the midst of all these saga.. Imagine our faces standing before the LORD
See how the church is washing her dirty linen in public...
And to my fellow commenters, i dont think George 's aim of posting these videos is for us to say negative words.. remember, we shall all give account of every careless words we have spoken..by our words we shall be acquitted and by our words we shall be condemned. Let's know God will bring our comments to book too. George is not insulting anyone so we have no excuse
Why will all these mentioned people hate Damina that none of them could spill just one truth for Godsake. Same thing with Paul Odola. These ppl don't have the fear of God. Many things Abel have said that seem truthful
What Damina put on their site is just romancing the whole call to appeal to gullible readers
They should give dates
Mr. Soviet has spoken too.
I see stupidity and madness. Most ministers start what they call ministry or fellowship then after a while they turn it to church. Abel Damina is correct and true. What do these people mean by meetings? Paul Enenche need to tell it right. Now he did not mention that he was also ordained by Bishop David Oyedepo in Lagos in November 1998. Many pastors were ordained in that meeting and I am one of them. Why did he omit that in his biography?
George, I disagree, there's a saying that silence is consent... So Dr Paul's silence in law is in Daminas favor
I gave you two options. One is consent and 2 is maturity . You pick one. To analyze you guide the audience where things are blurry and not pick sides when you are being objective
But if I may ask why does pst Paul don't want to identify with Dr Damina if really he ordained him
This write up is alie. They were in area 1 for so many year cos I worshipped there. He spent over 15yrs in area 1
Woooo!
He is even speaking like Dr Abel Damina here