Best youtube review so far of the civic hatch. Appreciate the honest take on it, including the turbo lag and rev hang which no other reviewer has mentioned except very briefly. It felt like watching a real person and car enthusiast drive the car instead of a journalist. Thanks for not making it cheesy and avoiding tired taglines or any stupid attempt at being witty or funny.
Paco LeRoi thanks! truth is, that's just exactly what I am, a real consumer and an enthusiast. I'm glad you liked the video, I'll try to post one weekly to mark the progress of this car, and my other 3.
Thanks for the honest review and driving footage. Spirited driving of the 6spd seems to be missing from every other review, but not yours. I'm also glad you pointed out the rev-hang, I learned it first from your video. You ultimately helped me with my decision to order my new '17 Sport Hatch 6MT in Aegean Blue, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words, I really try my best to be as honest as possible (some people don't like it when I'm honest and the car I'm driving isn't very good). So happy you're getting a hatch, blue is a really nice color for it.
Man, I watch this video almost daily. Waiting for mine to come in. Exact same specs, color combo as yours. Dude at the dealer said that by years end there will only be like 9 white sport manuals in America.
I have heard three excuses for rev hang from automotive designers. 1. is that it helps to rev match for inexperienced drivers to save on clutch wear and components. Also prevents jerking. 2. is that it prevents flooding and unburnt fuel from entering the emissions system. Wouldn’t the computer controlled injection control that? But 3 was interesting. When a low priced vehicle is just as fun to drive as a high end sports car then those cars won’t sell nearly as often. If they don’t sell the race model then they don’t make them and without a flagship model it devalues the lower models. Interesting.
Good review. Answered many of the questions/concerns I had about this car. Not too much of a fan with the honey comb design though. In this regard, the golf gti is a little more appealing. I am however looking for a car that is going to be reliable, so it looks like I may end up getting the Civic Sport or maybe the Type R if I can get a good price on the latter.
I wish i had these empty roads and desert parking lots around to play with my car a bit more. I have to drive 1 hour to find a place like that. Nice drive!
Good review. Your video is prompting me to get the Sport model although I have been thinking of waiting for the Type R. After watching your video, I am thinking about the problems I might have with the Type R in terms of paying a premium for the vehicle and the likely speeding tickets I will incur up here in Canada.
Hatchbacks becoming more and more popular in Canada, also I'm seeing a lot of Ford Transit vans aswell in Ontario lol.. Ford Transits have been in U.K since forever yet they are just starting to arrive in Canada now haha, Canada is seriously 10 years or more behind like lets say Britain.. Just now hatchbacks are becoming more and more popular and more efficient in Canada but this has been standard in the U.K for quite some time. I think this exact car is actually built in U.K aswell so I heard
Hey bud, yea I'm glad the hatchback is coming back in style, it's the best car body style due to the usefulness. These are built in the UK, it's the first "British" car I own haha
I might pick it up some day if I can afford it. I've owned my Mazda 3 hatchback for 6 years and I love it, such a nice looking hatchback. This Honda is nice though but might even wait for the Type R.
Si won't have awd, and the si is also using the same engine as the other turbo civics, so with a tune, the difference shouldn't be too bad (time will tell).
engine? 2.0L? Great review...one thing tho...i don't think you realize how limited your interaction is with the car by not having the screen display in front of you...this RPM looks good but in there you should be able to send and receive text messages, facebook notifications, on tap navigation and a multitude of functions from android auto and apple car play are on there...you can just use this space for A LOT more than just show RPM and speed and this is what the other models with a screen offer...no offense tho very nice car i love honda i have a 2020 Sport coupe 6 speed manual in black myself.
what is your opinion on the honda,fit? I have a 2015 and really it's a great car but I don't know much about cars. I really want to get the sport touring manual. but having paid 3 years of my fit already I'm wondering if it's worth it. what do you think? thanks again for the video and review very helpful.
The Fit is very good in terms of storage space and capacity, it's also good on gas. The only thing I don't like too much is the lack of performance compared to the turbo Civic. If I were you, I would just keep the Fit for now, keep it for another couple of years, save up some money then trade it up for something really nice, maybe a Type R?
How do you find a manual? The Honda website isn't helpful, and as far as I can see, you have to search thru each franchise inventory one-by-one to see what they have available. There is no way to view a "national" inventory.
The easiest way to find the manuals is to go through edmunds and Autotrader, and do a nationwide search. I had to fly from NY to North Carolina to get my manual.
I test drove the Mazda 3 2.5, and while that felt quite sporty, this Civic with the turbo motor has more torque and, if you get the sport package, feels more responsive.
Are you experiencing problem with your smart entry? Like when you are away for a long period of time, you can't unlock it with just by hand. But if you lock it and open it right away, it unlocks. Also, when you start the car and you go out to open the hatch, it wont open.
Hey bud, I've read about Civic owners having this problem, I think some keyless entry systems have bugs that need to be worked out. On my car, since I don't have that system, I don't have that problem. I have the "old fashioned" remote unlock plus key (standard on the LX and Sport).
FlyinGato I see. This is why i prefer keys over push start/smart entry or whatever. Less problem. And it kinda sucks I cant open the hatch while the engine is running. I had to turn it off to open it. I dont get that idea
How did you get these seats and updraded cloth with the stock sport trim? I was under the impression you had to upgrade to the EX and above to get those seats. Do you get options to add to the stock model?
Big mistake I chose the CVT and now I'm having issues with it at 1245 miles of course I'm going to the dealer to get it fix but being this vehicle the second new Honda I believe this is the last one, no more Honda for me. I'm back to Nissan.
That sucks! I was definitely skeptical of the CVT, and always have been, no matter from what manufacturer. Manuals have been around for a very long time, the quirks and issues have all been worked out.
nice ride man!i have to wait to see this car in my country for another 4 months..so can you tell me something about the engine?because it is the first time for honda to put turbo.do you afraid of that?
Hi Panos, Honda's had turbo motors for a very long time, Since the Honda City (1981). They've since had many, and most recently, the Euro type R and the US RDX had turbo engines. I think they have done very well with this engine, I have no doubts.
thank u man for the response because i am about to buy this car and i want to be sure about my choise even it is possible. The honda cars that you have in your country are from the factory from england or another?do you know anything about that?
Of course, regarding the Civic lineup, we get our sedans and coupes from Canada, but the Hatchbacks are all built in Swindon, England. My car feels very well built, panel gaps are great, everything feels well made, as a Honda should feel. The main issue people are having on these are regarding the more upscale entertainment system (mainly, the touchscreen). It's another reason I like my Sport trim, it only has the non-touchscreen radio.
well i think in every country honda has their standar but these for me are meaningless because fthere are other things more important like engine etc. in my opinion of course.you are helping me a lot and i thank u but if you want i have another i think 2 questions(my thirsty for honda(japan)).what can you tell me about mpg in city(lt here in my country)?i suppose mine roads here in athens are a lot different than yours but i want to hear and from you your opinion about that.
I tend to think the engine is also the most important thing as well, another reason I bought the Civic. As far as MPG has been, I do a lot of mixed driving, so a lot of around town (city) driving and a little bit of highway driving, and I've been getting around 35 MPG overall, and I expect it to improve a bit more after the engine fully breaks in.
FG, I have a question for you, I just noticed my civic (just like yours) has this sputtering of the engine when I turn it off. Sometimes the sputtering causes the car to jerk because I let go of the clutch too soon due to the engine not shutting down right away. Let me know if you have noticed this too or it might just be me, thanks.
have you heard the dreaded warm start grinding noise?? since you have the 6spd i'd be willing to bet you haven't as it sounds like it's the cvt module.
I tend to agree, but due to pedestrian safety regulations and other government mandated stuff, they had to add a lot of bulk to the car, and in order to break it up a bit, the fake grills help. The Type R uses them for brake vents, perhaps the aftermarket can make these fake vent grills work.
Interesting, I grabbed the base lx hatch in canada, and it has the touch screen 8 speeker sound and heated seats...i wonder why they are different seeing as this is the sport which has almost every option here.
ah you see i have an 07 toyota yaris, electronic throttle body like all modern cars, and it lags like hell. like im talking a second of lag between stabbing the gas and actually getting a response. it makes the car really uncomfortable to drive because getting a smooth shift when the engine is doing its own thing is damn near impossible.. the rev hang on the yaris is really really bad too, because it happens only sometimes and it makes shifting jerky as hell.
yea I get it, the 2005 TSX my fiance had (I made a review of it) had a similar issue, but the worst experience I've had so far was in an X1 I drove (also reviewed on my channel) and my friend's honda Fit. It's like, when you hit the gas pedal, it has to think about what it wants to do when it grows up before it realizes IT HAS ONE JOB TO DO! The Civic hatch Sport doesn't have the problem, thank goodness!
Ello i ave one there is some déférence i ave volume on the stering not the same radio mine is blue is cvt sport turbo is cool to drive .ave a good time whit your civic ☺
Hi, there.. Since the very first time the civic coupe was shown as a prototype for the new 10 gen civic, that i am in love... Here in my country, it started to be sold since 2017, and this year, i finally got to buy one hatchback 1.5 sport... i am in love, could drive it hours and hours, it's something unexplainable... but, maybe unfortunatly, i have one question, that i would like you to answer me if you can... In the US, or north-america, do you have to do the oil change at 5.500 miles?? is it normal for you guys? My civic started to ask to go to the dealers service for oil change.. i am a bit surprised.. Can you tell me anything about this? tks
never a problem my man. You have to consider sales tax (for me it was 8.5%), out the door was 22,500. I'll be posting a video of my buying process this weekend, if you want to know exactly how I did it.
Thanks man!. I was deciding between the Sport and EX but I don't care for sunroof or push to start. Maybe the touch screen or the cameras on the side-mirrors are cool but IDK. Thank you for these videos. They're awesome.
Thanks for the kind words! Honestly, I prefer the non touch screen audio, the Sport is such a good value, and remember, the Sport has better steering rack, it's .2 inches lower than the other ones, and you can really feel it.
FlyinGato True. But next year, 2018 CIVIC type-R turbo selling in US!! I'm delighted to do that. And I wanna buy Accord sport 6MT.. in Japan, only hybrid. It bores me to tears...
There's quite a bit more space in the Civic than in my e90, not having to provide a space for the driveshaft to go through really adds space to the passenger cabin.
I was thinking about it, and it still might be a possibility, but I can't see myself needing the power, if I want to drop the hammer on something, I have the 335d with 600 ft pounds of torque, if I need a canyon carver / track car, I have the S2000, if I need a project car, I have my Prelude, my civic is for winter / beater / utility.
Ironically this civic face look generation is the best selling civic ever in the world. It’s more aggressive and sporty looking compare to previous generations and the new models that starts in 2022.
In my opinion, I love the rev hang, I think it sounds amazing when you hit 6k, and Instead of shifting, just let off the gas and it rev hangs for 5 or so seconds, and turbo lag isn't good for performance, but the thrill of getting a sudden rush at a certain rpm is what gives you a smile when you drive :)
+Bradley Mundy I tested it myself, I was very traction limited, very cold out so the tires couldn't grip. Definitely feels faster than 8 seconds, did well on my track days, check out the videos I have of those
Honda has become a money pit. Veloster N seems the way to go since it's track ready stock. No tuning required, no modding, no rev hang, no turbo lag, no torque steer. The fact that you have to tune the Honda Civic just for it to work properly goes to show just how bad the automaker has become. Only the Type R gets it right, but then again $38k is ridiculous for a Civic that doesn't even have an active exhaust. So folks end up paying even more money to mod the exhaust on top of the $38k they've already spent. Like I said, money pit. Lol
great takes and views on this car, I'm having a hard time deciding if I should trade in my civic coupe, lol maybe next year :D but im linking this car more and more, HARD to find a manual thou!
Nice review, love Honda, love Civics! But you did not mention engine at all. Assume its 1.5 petrol turbo there in USA. In Europe we also get 1.6 diesel turbo and 1.0 petrol 3 cyl - which is pretty crappy, underpowered, and have had problems. The 1.5 is meant to be the best of the bunch for all round performance, economy, handling etc. (Unless you go Type-R of course)
I got the base manual. the base uses regular fuel and has 174 HP. Sport and upgrades have 180 HP, and use premium fuel. SIX HP for premium is a no-go. it is quiet. meh on styling. It looks better than the Fit. Note that the base does not have a tweeter mount for speakers.
you have the same interior setup with ivory/black im not a fan of the interior then again I bought mine used during the height of the pandemic in 2020 only paid $16k with 27k on the odometer. except mine has CVT. its better than nissan's crap. this car wasn't planned for me to buy. I had a incident with my 8th gen EX sedan in which my insurance declared it totaled at 177k. my timing chain ripped and oil pan busted. but now that car is in Puerto Rico. I told them to cut me a check and i''ll get something else I still have it and going strong at 110k on the odometer just do your regular maitenance and you're good to go
Too much design kills this civic.Looks at behind and front exterior bulky over style turns it to ugly.Mazda3 already kills this civic.Im really disappointed with honda.I miss the best of civic model like Ek,Eg/Eh,Fd.
Rev hang in my 2014 Accord Sport 2.4 6MT. The rev hang isn't for EPA, you physically have to inject fuel to do that. The rev hang is there to keep flywheel momentum going as the flywheels are quite light. You'll see why it's there when you turn the A/C on and it drops much faster. I've tested this on my Accord about 500 times. It's one of my biggest issues. I can't ever get used to it. Sometimes it'll hang for what seems like weeks, others much more reasonable. I'm used to rev matching every shift to prevent from using the clutch. You'll see what I mean the more you use the car. I've tested it so much I've physically watched the revs go UP even though my foot has been off the gas for a while. It's not just because the foot is in it. I can make exaggerated movements to people to demonstrate it. But it's not EVERY single time, just most times. You'll see what I mean. I am also looking at this exact vehicle as well. I find that my Accord Sport gets me 32.5 MPG average, mostly highway, but I hammer on it quite a bit. The performance of this Civic is similar to the Accord sport, so I'm not sure if this lateral movement would be useful to me.
Yea, this rev hang issues is one of the things I dislike about this civic, but at least there is hope with a future tune. I looked at manual accords as well, but I really think the hatchback offers good utility, so I went with the hatch instead.
Honestly the Manual 2.4 Sport Accord is probably the better choice in most cases. BUT... The hatchback is a tiny bit more fuel efficient 8%, but that's running 87 octane, you lose the cost going to 93. There is no real tunability with the 2.4 You can get a cast bellmouth with no cat for like 8WHP. You won't even feel that. With the Civic hatch, there is a a bit more versatility which is important to me. And more importantly, tuning. I wish I knew what kind of connecting rods Honda put in this motor, or what kind of direct injection fuel capacity it's got. I'm guessing those will be changed in the Si or the R. You can tune that rev hang out thank GOD! It's obnoxious. I'd HIGHLY suggest though that you run a high end catch can as soon as possible. Please take it from me having owned many direct injection and DI turbo cars in the past.
Visually it is a fail. Honda basically invented the hatch back and now they just took a civic sport coupe and slightly modified it. I am a Honda guy but visually I prefer the ford focus and other true hatchbacks. I drove my 89 civic hatchback until it died and would love another Honda hatchback if the would make a real one. However I am kind of addicted to my all-wheel drive Subaru Impreza Hatchback.
That rear honeycomb shit is annoying to look at. Taillights are trying a bit too hard to be cutting edge. I don't care much for the front wheel fenders, either. Otherwise, it's a good Honda. I'm looking forward to the Si Coupe which will be a true 2-door hatch.
OMG so many comments here. Lol it took me forever to go through, and forgot is I commented on this video or not, wanted to check if I did, and what I wrote if that was the case. I couldn't find one, so, here it is, July 14, 2018... I still love this car. The Sport Touring Hatchback has all the bells and whistles, but costs several thousands more. The Sport Hatchback has it's unique charm, with a more serious performance driving vibe, especially fir thise that want the manual and are not in Canada to get the Sport Touring Hatchback with the speed. Grammar NinjaCat (Gato) must comment about a remark at the beginning of this video. It's an Intercooler, not a intercooler. Lol Aside from that, great video, as always. Maybe I should have been an automotive journalist, I can write a lot, but have not driven many different cars, and have certain preferences and biases, even though I like all kinds of cars and vehicles. Other than my past personal favorite cars I owned, my 2984 Buick Grand National, 2000 Chevy Impala LS and 2006 Chevy Impala SS. My 2011 Chevy Cruze RS awaits funds to restore, it be transformed into a stealth, high performance monster, or sold, or whatever. That Hyundai Elantra Sport caught my interest with all the performance, features and options on the fully loaded version. In blue, of course, I wanted that car, even if it was a Hyundai, after watching all the videos. Until I saw the Honda Sport Hatchback. Game changer. All the colors are nice, with the silver bring the least, bring so plain. I wanted the Sonic Grey Pearl for it's no nonsense stealth performance factor... Until I saw the Aegean Blue Metallic in person, and on certain videos. It looks like a pearl paint finish. I love the styling, even thise honeycomb panels so many detests. I haven't seen any efforts fir the aftermarket to make creative spins on replacements. Maybe with James Bond type options. Lol There's just one thing I notice that makes it quirky that I don't think the Si has. The odd way the pointed outer corners of the taillights just out when viewed from an angle from the front, like even with the front of the car, with a range of a foot or two away from the headlights, etc. But it's minor. So many people complsin about the lack of this and that, but they don't get it. You can get an EX with more options for about the same price, but not all the sport performance features, appearance add ons, and niceties like the leather steering wheel, paddle shifters for the CVT, exhaust, wheels, suspension, etc. It would be nice to have the turn signsl lights on the outside mirrors, LED headlights, nicer interior door panels and other treatments, and the rear seat center armrest, and map pockets behind the front seats, preferably both sides, like my three most recent cars/Chevy's. My Buick GN didn't have it, but it had beautiful custom seats only that year model had. The Sport Touring Hatchback outside mirrors, and rear seat with the center armrest could be retrofittedfrom upper level trims. I also am undecided about the headlights. I like the Projector look, even though I heard the LED ones casts a cool light footprint. But I believe you could get aftermarket bulbs to make it brighter, and whiter. I would consider that with bulbs that are about equal brightness to the OEM LEDs, without bring illegal, it excessively bright and blinding So much other things you can customize and upgrade, little by little, but looks are subjective, and all the complainers just don't get the fact that the Sport Hatchback was specifically equipt as is like ok'd school.petfirmsnce cars of ok'd to have all the sport looks and performance, and be affordable. Like the Si, most who get these cars don't care about the Honda Sense, or similar options equiptment. The Subaru Integra Sport Sedan and Hatchback is the same way. But you can get all this safety features and other options, but you don't have to, and can save money, if you want more back to basics performance and functionality. I know exactly what I would want, snd would add, but can do it in increments as budget allows. Whether it be looks, functionality, confirt, safety, performance, etc. I would decide that step by step. As a start, it's great out of the box, per se. Fast enough fir me, though I wish I could get the LSD and engine upgrades, and maybe stereo from the Si. But they have suspension upgrades, and Borla and other aftermarket exhaust systems. Other than the other available aftermarket pieces I would want, legal smoke tint windows, weather mats, and customized pieces, and the Red JDM Honda badges for front, rear and steering wheel, I think I would be happy with the engine peformsnce in stock form, since I would get the CVT and not have the Rev hang problem that I believe Hondata can fix. It still could be a consideration, but the power would be sufficient. The only other main thing I would consider other than suspension, stereo, exhaust would be upgraded brakes. Honda now offers the HFP package on the Civic Sport Hatchback and Si, but I only like the HFP emblems, and brakes from the package, that may be available separately. I don't like the options roof spoiler, which is also available without the HFP package, and the 19" wheels. The tires would also be an additional charge I love the factiryb28" wheels, and the optional wheels are another nice option, but so expensive. The HFP on the Si would be anotger thing, since it does not have that spoiler, and also has some performance tweaks I can't remember. I think it had to do with suspension and throttle response. So, close to the $25K range, at the mist, close to $30K with all the options and aftermarket add ons, the base CVT Civic Sport Hatchback would be fine for me.
all the new Civics look really nice. I personally like the civic sedan models.. I think the back looks better then the Hatchback. BUt the TYpe R looks fucking badass. I already bought a new civic ex-t not long ago or I would get the TYpe R in a heartbeat
The model sold in Australia is made in Thailand the U.S models are NOT made in Thailand, I think U.S or Canada, Manufacturers have factories all over the world nowadays. Regards Lindsay.
It does actually, if the car detects it's on a hill, it will automatically hold the brakes for you. It doesn't do it every time, but most of the time it works.
Great job. I watched the night and day review. Manual transmission makes this car more sporty. I also like your choice of color. Is this hard for a new driver to drive this manual civic hatchback sport?
Thanks! I think this is probably one of the easiest ones to learn on, as it has the brake hold assist feature, which holds the brake for you until you get rolling again. I definitely recommend the manual on this car, though, definitely transforms it to a sporty car.
Very interested in this car! Do you agree with this review about the shifter? th-cam.com/video/-rIMG_0vG8k/w-d-xo.html I've read and watched some reviews on this car but this is the first time I've heard this about the shifter.
What would you recommend when someone gets a first car after only driving rentals, put on a few years of driving experience first on a Civic Sport Plus and then maybe get an R with some losses or go directly with the R and just drive it "slow" but have less losses?
did you really say train? no.. just no... you dont need a training to actually drive a manual. its easy, just practice and get your own feel. thats it. not training.
I drive manual in LA. It's really hard to learn manual without proper training. I got a few lessons first before started practicing on my own. I can personal say learning from videos would be a terrible idea vs having someone there with you telling you what to do, when to do it, and whatever questions you might have answered there.
chocoboblue99 i actually learned how to drive a stick based off a TH-cam video. i learned on a 2015 Civic Si coupe. i am fairly good and I drove it around a parking lot but havent driven on a road yet. i really love stickshift and I am contemplating buying one very soon. just driving on the road concerns me especially with people who stop abruptly on the road. can you provide any tips?
People stopping abruptly on the road shouldn't be too much of a concern to you because you're driving stick. People with auto can follow way closer and tailgate, but you shouldn't. If you driving stick, you should keep a even greater gap between you and the car ahead of you. A wider gap, also means you have more time to change gears. (downshift, upshift, whatever) Also, if you do have to stop abruptly, keep in mind that you have MORE braking force with the clutch engage than disengage. This is because the engine is also helping your car slow down with the brakes. So, when you see you have to BRAKE HARD, you just hit the brakes hard, then just before the car stalls out that's when you slam in the clutch too. I don't know why movies always show people slamming both clutch and brake pedals together when they have to brake hard. Looks cool on film, but that's where a video would be telling everyone the wrong advise.
Best youtube review so far of the civic hatch. Appreciate the honest take on it, including the turbo lag and rev hang which no other reviewer has mentioned except very briefly. It felt like watching a real person and car enthusiast drive the car instead of a journalist. Thanks for not making it cheesy and avoiding tired taglines or any stupid attempt at being witty or funny.
Paco LeRoi thanks! truth is, that's just exactly what I am, a real consumer and an enthusiast. I'm glad you liked the video, I'll try to post one weekly to mark the progress of this car, and my other 3.
+RightDrive I'm used to NA cars, I notice turbo lag
Thanks for the honest review and driving footage. Spirited driving of the 6spd seems to be missing from every other review, but not yours. I'm also glad you pointed out the rev-hang, I learned it first from your video. You ultimately helped me with my decision to order my new '17 Sport Hatch 6MT in Aegean Blue, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words, I really try my best to be as honest as possible (some people don't like it when I'm honest and the car I'm driving isn't very good). So happy you're getting a hatch, blue is a really nice color for it.
I don't like electronic parking breaks either. Not a bit
Man, I watch this video almost daily. Waiting for mine to come in. Exact same specs, color combo as yours. Dude at the dealer said that by years end there will only be like 9 white sport manuals in America.
Oh wow, that's really cool to know! We're one of 9 so far, that's more exclusive than most lambos and ferraris! You're going to love this car.
Just got mine this weekend. Ended up getting lunar silver. There were only 4 total in TExas and no white :(
That's alright, did you get it in manual? What do you think of the car so far?
I am loving it. It is my 4th hatch. I have had 1989. 1996, and 2004 Si. Definitely my favorite so far! MPG is great too.
Oh man, I had a 1990 civic wagon! it was my first car, I'm so happy to be back in a 4 door hatchback again.
Just bought mine today. I'm so stoked on it
it's such a great car!
I just got this car and I love it. Also got a great deal on it.
It's an awesome choice.
What did u pay?
I have heard three excuses for rev hang from automotive designers. 1. is that it helps to rev match for inexperienced drivers to save on clutch wear and components. Also prevents jerking. 2. is that it prevents flooding and unburnt fuel from entering the emissions system. Wouldn’t the computer controlled injection control that? But 3 was interesting. When a low priced vehicle is just as fun to drive as a high end sports car then those cars won’t sell nearly as often. If they don’t sell the race model then they don’t make them and without a flagship model it devalues the lower models. Interesting.
That third one is very interesting. I'm almost certain most of it is emissions related
The best review so far! Thank you! The others simply don't know how to drive hondas
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Good review. Answered many of the questions/concerns I had about this car. Not too much of a fan with the honey comb design though. In this regard, the golf gti is a little more appealing. I am however looking for a car that is going to be reliable, so it looks like I may end up getting the Civic Sport or maybe the Type R if I can get a good price on the latter.
If you can swing it, the type R is going to be an awesome car. I just don't really need the power, as I have two other performance cars.
I'm getting One On January, 2018... Thanks bro
Congrats!
I wish i had these empty roads and desert parking lots around to play with my car a bit more. I have to drive 1 hour to find a place like that. Nice drive!
Thanks! I'll keep doing these if people keep enjoying them.
Amazing car review, I learned a lot about the Civic Sport. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words!
danm civic upping their game! Very sporty looking car
In person it looks even better.
Hey! Great review, have you had any trouble with the oil dilution problem hitting some of those 1.5L turbos? Thanks!
drive around for a bit warm the tires and engine.. turn traction control off, power shift into (2 if brave) 3 and 4
I've done that a number of times already, it's quite a fun car.
Good review. Your video is prompting me to get the Sport model although I have been thinking of waiting for the Type R. After watching your video, I am thinking about the problems I might have with the Type R in terms of paying a premium for the vehicle and the likely speeding tickets I will incur up here in Canada.
it's a really tough choice, even for me.
Lol people keep saying that. Premium is recommended not required people. Premium for higher horsepower
The proportion looks funny for a hatch. Maybe need spoiler like the euro civic type-R
Hatchbacks becoming more and more popular in Canada, also I'm seeing a lot of Ford Transit vans aswell in Ontario lol..
Ford Transits have been in U.K since forever yet they are just starting to arrive in Canada now haha, Canada is seriously 10 years or more behind like lets say Britain..
Just now hatchbacks are becoming more and more popular and more efficient in Canada but this has been standard in the U.K for quite some time.
I think this exact car is actually built in U.K aswell so I heard
Hey bud, yea I'm glad the hatchback is coming back in style, it's the best car body style due to the usefulness. These are built in the UK, it's the first "British" car I own haha
I might pick it up some day if I can afford it. I've owned my Mazda 3 hatchback for 6 years and I love it, such a nice looking hatchback.
This Honda is nice though but might even wait for the Type R.
Good review no bull cheers..
You can turn off that green/white strip, my accord had it too, its somewhere in the settings
leutrim topalli I tried to buy realized you need to have the EX and up to be able to do so
brake hold only works if your seat belt is on.
I got same car and color lol love it get compliments all the time
I know, me too!
I'm happy with my sport, but the si version obviously will murder it... hope it has awd. I will upgrade if it does.
Si won't have awd, and the si is also using the same engine as the other turbo civics, so with a tune, the difference shouldn't be too bad (time will tell).
Good review but imo the wide angle lens you use makes everything look stretched out. It's kinda hard to see the details
I agree, I'll be doing more videos with a new camera I started using, no more wide angle.
engine? 2.0L?
Great review...one thing tho...i don't think you realize how limited your interaction is with the car by not having the screen display in front of you...this RPM looks good but in there you should be able to send and receive text messages, facebook notifications, on tap navigation and a multitude of functions from android auto and apple car play are on there...you can just use this space for A LOT more than just show RPM and speed and this is what the other models with a screen offer...no offense tho very nice car i love honda i have a 2020 Sport coupe 6 speed manual in black myself.
It's the 1.5 turbo
what is your opinion on the honda,fit? I have a 2015 and really it's a great car but I don't know much about cars. I really want to get the sport touring manual. but having paid 3 years of my fit already I'm wondering if it's worth it. what do you think?
thanks again for the video and review very helpful.
The Fit is very good in terms of storage space and capacity, it's also good on gas. The only thing I don't like too much is the lack of performance compared to the turbo Civic. If I were you, I would just keep the Fit for now, keep it for another couple of years, save up some money then trade it up for something really nice, maybe a Type R?
Excuse my ignorance, but 'Rev hang' won't apply to the cat will it? (My wife insists on an automatic).
man that rev hang looks so annoying, it would annoy the crap out of me. not to mention chew up the clutch quick.
Yea, I'll be tuning it out at some point.
How do you find a manual?
The Honda website isn't helpful, and as far as I can see, you have to search thru each franchise inventory one-by-one to see what they have available. There is no way to view a "national" inventory.
The easiest way to find the manuals is to go through edmunds and Autotrader, and do a nationwide search. I had to fly from NY to North Carolina to get my manual.
Go to Cars.com. Sort via price, distance, color, manual etc etc.
love the wheels!badass!
I originally didn't like them, but they realy are good, especially in this color combo.
Mazda 3 attracts me so much. I wonder which one is sportier.
I test drove the Mazda 3 2.5, and while that felt quite sporty, this Civic with the turbo motor has more torque and, if you get the sport package, feels more responsive.
How about the 2.0 Vtec? Does it also have rev hang?
Bro why the shifter sounds odd ? Is it possible to become smoother by time ! Plz answer
Are you experiencing problem with your smart entry? Like when you are away for a long period of time, you can't unlock it with just by hand. But if you lock it and open it right away, it unlocks. Also, when you start the car and you go out to open the hatch, it wont open.
Hey bud, I've read about Civic owners having this problem, I think some keyless entry systems have bugs that need to be worked out. On my car, since I don't have that system, I don't have that problem. I have the "old fashioned" remote unlock plus key (standard on the LX and Sport).
FlyinGato I see. This is why i prefer keys over push start/smart entry or whatever. Less problem. And it kinda sucks I cant open the hatch while the engine is running. I had to turn it off to open it. I dont get that idea
Oh wow, I definitely have not had that problem, I can basically do whatever I want with the doors of the car.
solid review bruh
thanks!
How did you get these seats and updraded cloth with the stock sport trim? I was under the impression you had to upgrade to the EX and above to get those seats. Do you get options to add to the stock model?
these are cloth, and in some white Civic Sport Hatches, you get these awesome seats
Big mistake I chose the CVT and now I'm having issues with it at 1245 miles of course I'm going to the dealer to get it fix but being this vehicle the second new Honda I believe this is the last one, no more Honda for me. I'm back to Nissan.
That sucks! I was definitely skeptical of the CVT, and always have been, no matter from what manufacturer. Manuals have been around for a very long time, the quirks and issues have all been worked out.
nice ride man!i have to wait to see this car in my country for another 4 months..so can you tell me something about the engine?because it is the first time for honda to put turbo.do you afraid of that?
Hi Panos, Honda's had turbo motors for a very long time, Since the Honda City (1981). They've since had many, and most recently, the Euro type R and the US RDX had turbo engines. I think they have done very well with this engine, I have no doubts.
thank u man for the response because i am about to buy this car and i want to be sure about my choise even it is possible. The honda cars that you have in your country are from the factory from england or another?do you know anything about that?
Of course, regarding the Civic lineup, we get our sedans and coupes from Canada, but the Hatchbacks are all built in Swindon, England. My car feels very well built, panel gaps are great, everything feels well made, as a Honda should feel. The main issue people are having on these are regarding the more upscale entertainment system (mainly, the touchscreen). It's another reason I like my Sport trim, it only has the non-touchscreen radio.
well i think in every country honda has their standar but these for me are meaningless because fthere are other things more important like engine etc. in my opinion of course.you are helping me a lot and i thank u but if you want i have another i think 2 questions(my thirsty for honda(japan)).what can you tell me about mpg in city(lt here in my country)?i suppose mine roads here in athens are a lot different than yours but i want to hear and from you your opinion about that.
I tend to think the engine is also the most important thing as well, another reason I bought the Civic. As far as MPG has been, I do a lot of mixed driving, so a lot of around town (city) driving and a little bit of highway driving, and I've been getting around 35 MPG overall, and I expect it to improve a bit more after the engine fully breaks in.
FG, I have a question for you, I just noticed my civic (just like yours) has this sputtering of the engine when I turn it off. Sometimes the sputtering causes the car to jerk because I let go of the clutch too soon due to the engine not shutting down right away. Let me know if you have noticed this too or it might just be me, thanks.
Hey bud, I haven't noticed any of that, and I'm pretty hard on my car.
have you heard the dreaded warm start grinding noise?? since you have the 6spd i'd be willing to bet you haven't as it sounds like it's the cvt module.
Hi Jed, I haven't had any grinding noise at all. I'm almost at 1000 miles, no problems to speak of.
I also hate those fake honey comb grill. If you're gonna put a grill make sure it's useful other wise don't put it.
I tend to agree, but due to pedestrian safety regulations and other government mandated stuff, they had to add a lot of bulk to the car, and in order to break it up a bit, the fake grills help. The Type R uses them for brake vents, perhaps the aftermarket can make these fake vent grills work.
Interesting, I grabbed the base lx hatch in canada, and it has the touch screen 8 speeker sound and heated seats...i wonder why they are different seeing as this is the sport which has almost every option here.
In the US the LX and Sport have less options than the Canadian cars.
i gotta say this civic lookd sexy
it looks even better in person, I've started seeing them on the street more recently, looks amazing.
FlyinGato great design by honda in and out👌👏👏Honda
Rev hang? Is supposed to be an automated rev matching system or something along those lines?
6kunio8 no sir, Rev hang is designed to help with emissions, I'll be tuning it out at some point
hey hows the throttle lag? that seems to be a big problem with modern cars and really puts me off getting a modern manual.
throttle lag, as in when you tip into the pedal, is great! the problem is now rev hang.
ah you see i have an 07 toyota yaris, electronic throttle body like all modern cars, and it lags like hell. like im talking a second of lag between stabbing the gas and actually getting a response. it makes the car really uncomfortable to drive because getting a smooth shift when the engine is doing its own thing is damn near impossible..
the rev hang on the yaris is really really bad too, because it happens only sometimes and it makes shifting jerky as hell.
yea I get it, the 2005 TSX my fiance had (I made a review of it) had a similar issue, but the worst experience I've had so far was in an X1 I drove (also reviewed on my channel) and my friend's honda Fit. It's like, when you hit the gas pedal, it has to think about what it wants to do when it grows up before it realizes IT HAS ONE JOB TO DO! The Civic hatch Sport doesn't have the problem, thank goodness!
man im glad someone finally made an electronic throttle body that isn't completely hopeless.
Yo bro I just had to say: sick hoodie
Thanks bro
Ello i ave one there is some déférence i ave volume on the stering not the same radio mine is blue is cvt sport turbo is cool to drive .ave a good time whit your civic ☺
you too! enjoy your hatch!
Hi, there.. Since the very first time the civic coupe was shown as a prototype for the new 10 gen civic, that i am in love... Here in my country, it started to be sold since 2017, and this year, i finally got to buy one hatchback 1.5 sport... i am in love, could drive it hours and hours, it's something unexplainable... but, maybe unfortunatly, i have one question, that i would like you to answer me if you can... In the US, or north-america, do you have to do the oil change at 5.500 miles?? is it normal for you guys? My civic started to ask to go to the dealers service for oil change.. i am a bit surprised.. Can you tell me anything about this?
tks
yea that's pretty normal bud, I would follow what the car is telling you
@@FlyinGato 👍 tks
I was thinking about getting this same exact trim! What was the price out the door? If you don't mine me asking..
never a problem my man. You have to consider sales tax (for me it was 8.5%), out the door was 22,500. I'll be posting a video of my buying process this weekend, if you want to know exactly how I did it.
FlyinGato thatd be great!
is this good for 2 adults and 2 kids?
Sean kun yessir, more than good enough, lots of space in the back
Joli bruit / great sound
thanks!
Does it have a cassette player?
it doesn't I find that the phone does a great job with the bluetooth though.
Do you get a rearview camera when you back up on the Sport or EX? excuse my bad english.
Hey bud, you have great English skills. All hatchbacks have backup cameras in the US.
Thanks man!. I was deciding between the Sport and EX but I don't care for sunroof or push to start. Maybe the touch screen or the cameras on the side-mirrors are cool but IDK.
Thank you for these videos. They're awesome.
Thanks for the kind words! Honestly, I prefer the non touch screen audio, the Sport is such a good value, and remember, the Sport has better steering rack, it's .2 inches lower than the other ones, and you can really feel it.
flashpro fixes the rev hang, that nothing new my 09 civic si had it until i flashed it
they still haven't figured it out last I checked, but they are working on it.
Hello FlyingGato. What's the name of the intro song? I really like it!
Hey bud, I can't even find it anymore, I got it off of soundcloud from an independent creator, and he's not around anymore!
Im not getting the manual version tho
nice review
Thanks!
cool. I can't buy this MT CIVIC HATCH in japan...
That's a shame, but I guess you kind of know how we felt when we never got the Type R in the US for all these years.
FlyinGato
True. But next year, 2018 CIVIC type-R turbo selling in US!! I'm delighted to do that.
And I wanna buy Accord sport 6MT..
in Japan, only hybrid. It bores me to tears...
how big is the backseat compared to the e90?
There's quite a bit more space in the Civic than in my e90, not having to provide a space for the driveshaft to go through really adds space to the passenger cabin.
FlyinGato I ask because I need to out child seats back there. is that more legroom? Thanks and nice review ..nice car too.
Child seats will work with both the civic and the 4 door e90 just fine to be honest, but the e90 trunk is pretty small.
good
thanks!
You should have waited on the type r
I was thinking about it, and it still might be a possibility, but I can't see myself needing the power, if I want to drop the hammer on something, I have the 335d with 600 ft pounds of torque, if I need a canyon carver / track car, I have the S2000, if I need a project car, I have my Prelude, my civic is for winter / beater / utility.
As long as insurance isn’t too much I’ll be scooping a 2019 within the next 2 months!
Awesome! You'll love it
You just sold the car to me. thanks for your honest review .
It's an awesome car, happy to help!
Ironically this civic face look generation is the best selling civic ever in the world. It’s more aggressive and sporty looking compare to previous generations and the new models that starts in 2022.
In my opinion, I love the rev hang, I think it sounds amazing when you hit 6k, and Instead of shifting, just let off the gas and it rev hangs for 5 or so seconds, and turbo lag isn't good for performance, but the thrill of getting a sudden rush at a certain rpm is what gives you a smile when you drive :)
Why does it say 8 seconds 0-60 when all I've seen it people getting like 6.5 seconds
+Bradley Mundy I tested it myself, I was very traction limited, very cold out so the tires couldn't grip. Definitely feels faster than 8 seconds, did well on my track days, check out the videos I have of those
Hondata and K Tuner REALLY help Rev Hang and Turbo lag making it a brand new car
Honda has become a money pit. Veloster N seems the way to go since it's track ready stock. No tuning required, no modding, no rev hang, no turbo lag, no torque steer. The fact that you have to tune the Honda Civic just for it to work properly goes to show just how bad the automaker has become. Only the Type R gets it right, but then again $38k is ridiculous for a Civic that doesn't even have an active exhaust. So folks end up paying even more money to mod the exhaust on top of the $38k they've already spent. Like I said, money pit. Lol
@@Hboogie182 I agree but you lost me at activr exhaust lol
great takes and views on this car, I'm having a hard time deciding if I should trade in my civic coupe, lol maybe next year :D but im linking this car more and more, HARD to find a manual thou!
love the hatch, though the Civic Si makes a good case for itself as well
i hear ya! i LOVE the interior of the Si, and not liking the dashboard of the hatch but regardless keep these vids coming man.
Nice review, love Honda, love Civics! But you did not mention engine at all. Assume its 1.5 petrol turbo there in USA. In Europe we also get 1.6 diesel turbo and 1.0 petrol 3 cyl - which is pretty crappy, underpowered, and have had problems. The 1.5 is meant to be the best of the bunch for all round performance, economy, handling etc. (Unless you go Type-R of course)
I got the base manual. the base uses regular fuel and has 174 HP. Sport and upgrades have 180 HP, and use premium fuel. SIX HP for premium is a no-go. it is quiet. meh on styling. It looks better than the Fit. Note that the base does not have a tweeter mount for speakers.
you have the same interior setup with ivory/black im not a fan of the interior then again I bought mine used during the height of the pandemic in 2020 only paid $16k with 27k on the odometer. except mine has CVT. its better than nissan's crap. this car wasn't planned for me to buy. I had a incident with my 8th gen EX sedan in which my insurance declared it totaled at 177k. my timing chain ripped and oil pan busted. but now that car is in Puerto Rico. I told them to cut me a check and i''ll get something else I still have it and going strong at 110k on the odometer just do your regular maitenance and you're good to go
Too much design kills this civic.Looks at behind and front exterior bulky over style turns it to ugly.Mazda3 already kills this civic.Im really disappointed with honda.I miss the best of civic model like Ek,Eg/Eh,Fd.
You shpuld have kept it beyter luck than the type r
Rev hang in my 2014 Accord Sport 2.4 6MT.
The rev hang isn't for EPA, you physically have to inject fuel to do that. The rev hang is there to keep flywheel momentum going as the flywheels are quite light.
You'll see why it's there when you turn the A/C on and it drops much faster.
I've tested this on my Accord about 500 times. It's one of my biggest issues. I can't ever get used to it. Sometimes it'll hang for what seems like weeks, others much more reasonable. I'm used to rev matching every shift to prevent from using the clutch.
You'll see what I mean the more you use the car. I've tested it so much I've physically watched the revs go UP even though my foot has been off the gas for a while. It's not just because the foot is in it. I can make exaggerated movements to people to demonstrate it. But it's not EVERY single time, just most times. You'll see what I mean.
I am also looking at this exact vehicle as well. I find that my Accord Sport gets me 32.5 MPG average, mostly highway, but I hammer on it quite a bit. The performance of this Civic is similar to the Accord sport, so I'm not sure if this lateral movement would be useful to me.
Yea, this rev hang issues is one of the things I dislike about this civic, but at least there is hope with a future tune. I looked at manual accords as well, but I really think the hatchback offers good utility, so I went with the hatch instead.
Honestly the Manual 2.4 Sport Accord is probably the better choice in most cases.
BUT... The hatchback is a tiny bit more fuel efficient 8%, but that's running 87 octane, you lose the cost going to 93. There is no real tunability with the 2.4 You can get a cast bellmouth with no cat for like 8WHP. You won't even feel that.
With the Civic hatch, there is a a bit more versatility which is important to me.
And more importantly, tuning.
I wish I knew what kind of connecting rods Honda put in this motor, or what kind of direct injection fuel capacity it's got. I'm guessing those will be changed in the Si or the R.
You can tune that rev hang out thank GOD! It's obnoxious.
I'd HIGHLY suggest though that you run a high end catch can as soon as possible. Please take it from me having owned many direct injection and DI turbo cars in the past.
Oh I know, I have a 335d, carbon build up can definitely be an issue, so a catch can is a must. I'll be looking into one soon.
Thanks for the review man.
happy to help!
Awesome!!! Are you open to collaborating? I work at a Honda dealer and don't have mine yet?
Hey bud, I am definitely open to collaborating on something, where are you located?
FlyinGato I'm located in California (Santa Maria) email me at edwardofhsm@gmail.com
Visually it is a fail. Honda basically invented the hatch back and now they just took a civic sport coupe and slightly modified it. I am a Honda guy but visually I prefer the ford focus and other true hatchbacks. I drove my 89 civic hatchback until it died and would love another Honda hatchback if the would make a real one. However I am kind of addicted to my all-wheel drive Subaru Impreza Hatchback.
Terry Paugh wq
Man no hand ebrake? Oh well at least there's a manual/turbo option now.
there's one for sedan as well
That rear honeycomb shit is annoying to look at. Taillights are trying a bit too hard to be cutting edge. I don't care much for the front wheel fenders, either. Otherwise, it's a good Honda. I'm looking forward to the Si Coupe which will be a true 2-door hatch.
I think overall it looks ok, but I agree, some of the details, especially the rear honeycomb, I could have done without.
dnt get me wrong I own a Ek hatch...n that's the most ugly looking civic hatchback ever.
It makes me mad that you can't get a factory moonroof on the sport and you can't get a manual trans on a sport touring. Ugh!!!!
I agree, Honda definitely dropped the ball on the options
Actually, the one thing I would delete from my wife's Sport Touring is that useless moonroof...
You can actually. My friend has the top of the line model. I think Sport Touring in 6 speed
Great video rev hang is due to double mass wheel in the clutch
I've never driven manual before, someone is selling a pearl blue hatch for $14k. I've been wanting a hatch.
Buy it
This vehicle is also known to be the fuckboi car and knowing that the back has more purposes if you know what I’m saying mate hahahaha
Lol!
stupid question, do you think putting regular gas instead of the recommended premium would a problem for the short and long run?
I don't think so, there's really no reason, but only time will tell to be honest.
Does he not have any subscribers?? Or is it hidden? I don't think i've seen anyone on TH-cam without at least 1 sub haha.
I didn't realize they were hidden, I unhid them, thanks for the heads up!
Totally agree on the LED lights. They look like crushed broken glass. Not a fan.
Wish they did the fenders and door seals on the sedan sport.
I got a quote and it said my insurance would be 200 a month. what do you pay
In NY I pay about 110 a month, it all depends on driving record, age and car.
Hondata's tuning solution will be able to fix the rev hang and give you a lot better drivability. Plus, you'll be able to eek out a bunch of power.
Yup, Ktuner/Hondata and a lighter flywheel gives you a great car
OMG so many comments here. Lol it took me forever to go through, and forgot is I commented on this video or not, wanted to check if I did, and what I wrote if that was the case. I couldn't find one, so, here it is, July 14, 2018...
I still love this car. The Sport Touring Hatchback has all the bells and whistles, but costs several thousands more. The Sport Hatchback has it's unique charm, with a more serious performance driving vibe, especially fir thise that want the manual and are not in Canada to get the Sport Touring Hatchback with the speed.
Grammar NinjaCat (Gato) must comment about a remark at the beginning of this video. It's an Intercooler, not a intercooler. Lol Aside from that, great video, as always.
Maybe I should have been an automotive journalist, I can write a lot, but have not driven many different cars, and have certain preferences and biases, even though I like all kinds of cars and vehicles.
Other than my past personal favorite cars I owned, my 2984 Buick Grand National, 2000 Chevy Impala LS and 2006 Chevy Impala SS. My 2011 Chevy Cruze RS awaits funds to restore, it be transformed into a stealth, high performance monster, or sold, or whatever.
That Hyundai Elantra Sport caught my interest with all the performance, features and options on the fully loaded version. In blue, of course, I wanted that car, even if it was a Hyundai, after watching all the videos. Until I saw the Honda Sport Hatchback. Game changer.
All the colors are nice, with the silver bring the least, bring so plain. I wanted the Sonic Grey Pearl for it's no nonsense stealth performance factor... Until I saw the Aegean Blue Metallic in person, and on certain videos. It looks like a pearl paint finish. I love the styling, even thise honeycomb panels so many detests. I haven't seen any efforts fir the aftermarket to make creative spins on replacements. Maybe with James Bond type options. Lol
There's just one thing I notice that makes it quirky that I don't think the Si has. The odd way the pointed outer corners of the taillights just out when viewed from an angle from the front, like even with the front of the car, with a range of a foot or two away from the headlights, etc. But it's minor.
So many people complsin about the lack of this and that, but they don't get it. You can get an EX with more options for about the same price, but not all the sport performance features, appearance add ons, and niceties like the leather steering wheel, paddle shifters for the CVT, exhaust, wheels, suspension, etc.
It would be nice to have the turn signsl lights on the outside mirrors, LED headlights, nicer interior door panels and other treatments, and the rear seat center armrest, and map pockets behind the front seats, preferably both sides, like my three most recent cars/Chevy's. My Buick GN didn't have it, but it had beautiful custom seats only that year model had.
The Sport Touring Hatchback outside mirrors, and rear seat with the center armrest could be retrofittedfrom upper level trims. I also am undecided about the headlights. I like the Projector look, even though I heard the LED ones casts a cool light footprint. But I believe you could get aftermarket bulbs to make it brighter, and whiter. I would consider that with bulbs that are about equal brightness to the OEM LEDs, without bring illegal, it excessively bright and blinding
So much other things you can customize and upgrade, little by little, but looks are subjective, and all the complainers just don't get the fact that the Sport Hatchback was specifically equipt as is like ok'd school.petfirmsnce cars of ok'd to have all the sport looks and performance, and be affordable. Like the Si, most who get these cars don't care about the Honda Sense, or similar options equiptment. The Subaru Integra Sport Sedan and Hatchback is the same way. But you can get all this safety features and other options, but you don't have to, and can save money, if you want more back to basics performance and functionality.
I know exactly what I would want, snd would add, but can do it in increments as budget allows. Whether it be looks, functionality, confirt, safety, performance, etc. I would decide that step by step.
As a start, it's great out of the box, per se. Fast enough fir me, though I wish I could get the LSD and engine upgrades, and maybe stereo from the Si. But they have suspension upgrades, and Borla and other aftermarket exhaust systems. Other than the other available aftermarket pieces I would want, legal smoke tint windows, weather mats, and customized pieces, and the Red JDM Honda badges for front, rear and steering wheel, I think I would be happy with the engine peformsnce in stock form, since I would get the CVT and not have the Rev hang problem that I believe Hondata can fix. It still could be a consideration, but the power would be sufficient. The only other main thing I would consider other than suspension, stereo, exhaust would be upgraded brakes. Honda now offers the HFP package on the Civic Sport Hatchback and Si, but I only like the HFP emblems, and brakes from the package, that may be available separately. I don't like the options roof spoiler, which is also available without the HFP package, and the 19" wheels. The tires would also be an additional charge
I love the factiryb28" wheels, and the optional wheels are another nice option, but so expensive. The HFP on the Si would be anotger thing, since it does not have that spoiler, and also has some performance tweaks I can't remember. I think it had to do with suspension and throttle response.
So, close to the $25K range, at the mist, close to $30K with all the options and aftermarket add ons, the base CVT Civic Sport Hatchback would be fine for me.
all the new Civics look really nice. I personally like the civic sedan models.. I think the back looks better then the Hatchback. BUt the TYpe R looks fucking badass. I already bought a new civic ex-t not long ago or I would get the TYpe R in a heartbeat
The model sold in Australia is made in Thailand the U.S models are NOT made in Thailand, I think U.S or Canada, Manufacturers have factories all over the world nowadays. Regards Lindsay.
all hatchbacks are manufactured in Swindon, UK for global export. The sedans and coupes are manufactured around the world.
The Coupe is Actually an HCM1 (Alliston ON Canada) exclusive, as well as the Civic Si.
Great review just ordered mine can’t wait
I hate the fact that this car is not sold on my country
does it have hill assist? would be nice if car doesnt roll back
It does actually, if the car detects it's on a hill, it will automatically hold the brakes for you. It doesn't do it every time, but most of the time it works.
Great job. I watched the night and day review. Manual transmission makes this car more sporty. I also like your choice of color. Is this hard for a new driver to drive this manual civic hatchback sport?
Thanks! I think this is probably one of the easiest ones to learn on, as it has the brake hold assist feature, which holds the brake for you until you get rolling again.
I definitely recommend the manual on this car, though, definitely transforms it to a sporty car.
thank you for your advice. Wish you have more awesome videos!
Thanks again bud, more coming soon!
No, the clutch is super light, shifter is very short throws also....
Put on the seat belt and break hold will be on.
Very interested in this car! Do you agree with this review about the shifter? th-cam.com/video/-rIMG_0vG8k/w-d-xo.html I've read and watched some reviews on this car but this is the first time I've heard this about the shifter.
What would you recommend when someone gets a first car after only driving rentals, put on a few years of driving experience first on a Civic Sport Plus and then maybe get an R with some losses or go directly with the R and just drive it "slow" but have less losses?
do you have to run premium gas in these? also, if I cant get premium gas, would octane booster work (stp, royal purple, etc)?
why not do a "how to drive a manual" video? i would like to see your perspective.
jesussaves13 you Americans and your manual learning... hahah just so funny.
did you really say train? no.. just no... you dont need a training to actually drive a manual. its easy, just practice and get your own feel. thats it. not training.
I drive manual in LA. It's really hard to learn manual without proper training. I got a few lessons first before started practicing on my own. I can personal say learning from videos would be a terrible idea vs having someone there with you telling you what to do, when to do it, and whatever questions you might have answered there.
chocoboblue99 i actually learned how to drive a stick based off a TH-cam video. i learned on a 2015 Civic Si coupe. i am fairly good and I drove it around a parking lot but havent driven on a road yet. i really love stickshift and I am contemplating buying one very soon. just driving on the road concerns me especially with people who stop abruptly on the road. can you provide any tips?
People stopping abruptly on the road shouldn't be too much of a concern to you because you're driving stick. People with auto can follow way closer and tailgate, but you shouldn't. If you driving stick, you should keep a even greater gap between you and the car ahead of you. A wider gap, also means you have more time to change gears. (downshift, upshift, whatever)
Also, if you do have to stop abruptly, keep in mind that you have MORE braking force with the clutch engage than disengage. This is because the engine is also helping your car slow down with the brakes. So, when you see you have to BRAKE HARD, you just hit the brakes hard, then just before the car stalls out that's when you slam in the clutch too.
I don't know why movies always show people slamming both clutch and brake pedals together when they have to brake hard. Looks cool on film, but that's where a video would be telling everyone the wrong advise.