@@retroK6607 effectively she told the truth or not to me because in this episode we see Chloe was scared when Lucifer touched her and it proves that she was still seeing the bad in Lucifer,his actual face, the devil's face et it scared her so to me she didn't really tell the truth because yeah she doesn't really know if she could accept him like this but deep inside her she knows that she couldn't accept this for the moment she will be able to later but not now so in my opinion she didn't tell all the truth
This is bullshit this entire show he has tried 2 convince her he is the devil she even has seen him do shit that Normal humans cant. Its not lucifers fault that every1 blames him 4 they're sins lucifer doesnt want 2 b seen as the DEVIL he wants chloe 2 c him as a friend so now this just show that chloe only saw lucifer as the DEVIL even after everything they have been through i umderstand she is scared hell i would b 2 but instead of looking at the stories and legends about lucifer look at wats infront of u after lucifer has doen so muuch 4 chloe so i dont blame lucifer 4 being upset its bullshit
@@DJ-ln8iy He is a full on angel, though. He is an Archangel. It's just that he fell and also took on the role of "The Devil". However, there's no race of sentient beings that are called "Devils". There are Demons, to be sure, but these are separate entities that are created in an entirely different manner.
@@mousedorff453 Yes but he is also very different from angels. Angels do not possess his Mojo nor his Devil face or form. Maybe it came when his farther just decided to send him to hell but if it didn't that make's him VERY different. so maybe he IS an Angel but you can't deny that he is quite different from the other Angel's up in Heaven
lets say your brother or someone came up to you and said he was the devil every single day would you actually believe he is the devil... same situation for chloe
I don't think it is that easy to really believe someone that he is the actual devil. We, humans, are more likely to try to explain situations and miracles in a more realistic and simple way than just to believe that someone is the devil. Her reaction is completely realistic.
@@aliciaborth3016 yes, but he bleed when she shot him, so of course she did not believe he is the devil because normally the devil is immortal and does mot bleed
Can we? her performance here is as amazing as ever, she really is able to draw the emotion behind her character, with a talent that makes you forget sometimes you're watching a tv show.
You can feel the pain. All throughout the series he's been struggling with the fact that humanity sees him as a monster and here he realises the one person he thought saw him differently is as terrified as they are :'(
To be honest? Lucifer even in Christianity is probably one of the most misunderstood characters. In the beginning Lucifer was the one who was tasked to help create humans and the universe and well just about everything and he wanted too. But he wanted to take the credit and glory from god. So he rebelled and was cast out of heaven. Thus the reason the burden to make all of creation fell on Christ/micheal. For all we truly know? Lucifer is just an archangel who is really the embodiment of sorrow and betrayal rather than evil. He doesn’t desire to kill humanity. What Lucifer wants in Christianity is for people to follow him and suffer from there own afflictions and temptations just as he has. I have sympathy for him. This show would more than likely paint a perfect picture of what the devil actually is. He was one of the first born children and he has felt betrayed ever since then. This show has actually made me cry thanks to Tom ellis’s portrayal. He was cast from his home and family. Although the rebellion probably doesn’t make him look good? I’d be pissed too.
In Sandman is stated that Lucifer mocked the human beigns for using him as there scapegoat for there own failures and despite been charged to torment the souls of sinners, he consider that there own guilt and ego is what bound souls to damnation.
Not everybody can handle knowing the LEGIT devil as well as Linda, but I love Chloe’s character progression throughout this season. Coping it in a way a lot of ppl would.
There’s a huge difference. With Linda, Lucifer was more open about his emotions so Linda saw him more than just the Devil. Chloe is barely seeing his human side
@@KanekiKen-fc3qo how? that is a pretty bold claim, especially since the show is about he devil and i know its from a comic but its about the devil. that is like they made a show about hitler as himself being the good guy.
@@56jklove Yeh my point is anyone can make a bold statement without knowing shit. The show isn't about the devil, it's about us being slightly wrong about the devil. One thing it portrays well is that we don't actually know anything about Lucifer because we derive our knowledge from books made by men. Plus I want you to define evil because what's evil about questioning shit we know nothing about? To me it just seems like you're another one of those brainwashed Christian's who doesn't know how to think for himself. God made us in his image and he made us intelligent enough to question stuff like this. If he didn't want us to think then he wouldn't have made us this way to begin with.
The show is still the same, written by the same people. The only thing Netflix did was allow more swearing and nudity and increase their budget. This season was this good because everyone who worked on it were glad they weren't cancelled, and wanted to give back to the fans.
@@agentundercover yes its still the same people, but you'd be surprised how quality varys when different studio takes them on. The talent has always been there but the nature of how Netflix is as a production company allows these talents to shine even brighter.
I can understand why Chloe tried to send Lucifer back to hell cuz she was so scared, but damn u can see how hurt Lucifer felt after discovering what she tried to do to him. How she betrayed him. That really sucked. Props to Tom n Lauren on the acting
In her defense hes the litteraly the devil so you have to imagine how hard it is for her. Not only that he is living proof that heaven and hell exists.
The sadest part is that she cant see how much shes hurting him at this point. Imagine opening up like that to the person you love for them to tell you they're terrified of you 😥
Why does everyone keep repeating that stupid phrase "actual devil"? I know I'm crying the wilderness but I really did not like Season 4. Felt like watching a train wreck or a puppy being kicked around by the people it loves.
One of the thing I didn’t like about this show. It’s still amazing but the story line sometimes disappoints because we expect a lot and somehow it feels like we’re back to the beginning in the next episode
Tom Ellis and Lauren German gave performances of a life time with this season seriously this show is one of the best written ever in recent years. sure season 3's writing was a little rough around the edges but season 4 easily fixed that by making both Lucifer and Chole's characters both act like adults and not inconstantly immature/mature i do love how S4 did literally everything season 3 did but did it better and acheived even more. the love triangle was executed perfectly and even had a really cool twist to it and there was no dragging of pace whatsoever. truly a successful firey hellish season.
@@samuela9245 Season 3 to me picked up in the last couple episodes but was annoying at the beginning. I somewhat understand why the show was cancelled as I believe they use pre-finale ratings.
@@SenoritaTorres1 a twist in the sense of there was no twist everyone was expecting Eve to be a ultra Possessive evil seductress whom would immediately go fully villain the moment Lucifer ditched her for Chole but she didn't she had a fully rounded of arc like everyone in the show and what was impressive is that it felt like she'd been in the show since day one and that she hadn't just been introduced into the show this season.
She's not very religiously literate though. A lot of Jews don't think Ha Satan is evil incarnate . Jewish POV: HaSatan th-cam.com/video/ZeYxCgKKZas/w-d-xo.html Religious literacy is the knowledge of, and ability to understand, religion. The importance of being religiously literate is increasing as globalisation has created greater links and migration between societies of different faiths and cultures. It has been proposed that including religious literacy as an aspect of public education would improve social cohesion.[1 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_literacy What is Satanism? th-cam.com/video/ohGj3BnOVyg/w-d-xo.html Don't get me started about what she said about being an atheist back in season 1. "I'm not an atheist exactly because I believe in good and evil." (Rolls eyes) Atheism is just a position on the God claim. Nothing else.
yeah some people were upset at the way Chloe treated Lucifer but I feel like the way she acted was how most of us would react. I mean, people literally go mentally insane when they see a glimpse of his devil face. like that first criminal.
@@rebecca8477 Nah, I'm an atheist who is interested in learning about other religions. Lucifer in the show is actually somewhat closer to how Ha Satan is said to function in Jewish tradition. Not exactly, but closer. (I.E. Like God's District Attorney.)
This scene is just pure gold from the acting, the emotions from both sides and the dialogue. If you knew the person you love is the devil could you accept it and would you still love that person?
Well everyone’s saying they would. I would love to believe I would as well. But honestly it’s a lot more complicated than that. Chloe went through so much with Lucifer and no matter how many times he went out of his way to save her life when he knew he would get hurt, the moment he showed her his devil face she got terrified. Yes I’m sure we would all (or most people) get over the fact that our loved one is Lucifer but that face is completely different. You’ve built a love with someone that you believe is a normal person to see their face morph into something completely different and then find out he’s the evil written in every bible and is supposedly the core of all evil, that’s a completely different thing. I would hopefully accept my loved one but obviously a lot of warming up to his other side would be needed.
There are so many layers to this scene that you have to watch it multiple times to try to catch them. He has always told her what he is, she didn’t believe him and fell in love, she saw what he actually is, and now she’s scared shitless even though she still loves him. This short clip is mentally exhausting but pure genius in writing, directing, and especially acting.
@@toughteddy4746 thanks yeah... I needed to write it because I could not stop think about it so I was happy when I saw comment. I just love Luce....adore him and it's breaking my heart seeing him with such pain in his eyes...
@@toughteddy4746 yeah I feel the same... Tom is brilliant actor and I just love this beautiful man... 😍 seeing Luce in such pain touched me deeply. I'm happy I'm not alone. Wish you amazing weekend.
Chloe is scared by the enormity of loving someone who is part of maintaining universal balance. Lucifer is hurt as he's always been honest with Chloe and has shown her his true personality.
Oh my god does anyone else notice how wonderful the lighting is, with both characters being half covered in dark (for lucifer) and light (for chloe) but both also having flickering lights showing their mixed moralities and feelings ahhhhh i'm so happy lucifer is at netflix now
Netflix is probably gonna ruin it at some point though. Most of their originals are terrible political tripe with zero substance. But I'm glad they picked this one up. So far so good.
I really liked this scene because it felt really natural and a real reaction that someone would have if they found out someone they cared about was the Devil. She's someone who's really scared and conflicted and lauren played it so well without getting mean or irrational.
sdasi1, I thought the same. It wasn’t that “all that heaven stuff” was real, it was how she felt about Lucifer that was really tormenting her. She knows that she should fear and hate and revile WHAT he is, but she can’t deny that WHO she is is nothing like what she’s been told, and more than that, it’s the man she’s fallen in love with. Her performance here really was great. I poo-pooed it as too emotional originally, but now I understand the nuance of it. Also? Wow. They REALLY nailed the make up on Netflix lol
She's terrified that he's manipulated her into feeling the way she does for him, not terrified he's going to hurt her, she says that she's just a nobody, why would the devil himself, pay so much attention to a random human? Kinley put in her head that she was just being used as some sick joke by Lucifer. Chloe didn't formulate what she wanted to say properly which is understandable considering how highly emotional she was in the moment, but she just wants to know if he really cares about her or if it was just a game. When he asks if she can accept him, she says that she wants too, that she's trying too, she doesn't want to lie to him again after all the Kinley stuff so she chooses to be honest and say that she's not really sure. Upon Lucifer turning away from her she instantly regrets what she said, but doesn't think anything she says will change how much she's just crushed Lucifer, you can see that he's clearly holding back a near total emotional breakdown, just by the look in his eyes
“I don’t care that he was trying to hurt me. I care that you were.” This whole scene summarized in this one line. Luci is probably used to people trying to hurt/kill him. But the one person he loved and cared trying to hurt him. The worst kind of betrayal.
I really wish they had written in more dialogue where Lucifer got to throw it back in Chloe's face how badly she messed up. "How am I, a regular human, supposed to deal with that?" "By remembering that you know me! You know who I am! I'm not just some fairy tale to you! We've been working together for over a year, and in that time, I've never lied to you about who I am. Now all of a sudden when you realize I was telling the truth, what, everything you know about me, everything we've been through together, that all takes a back seat to what you read in some book from a thousand years ago?! I would expect this from a stranger, detective, but I thought that you base your conclusions on what the evidence shows you." "I do, and I --" "Well, *evidentially* not. I think you should leave, detective. I wouldn't want to continue to terrify you."
idk man, i think the fact he doesn't defend himself speaks to his own inner conflict. at the end of season 3, he had finally realized that he controlled his wings / devil face and started to see himself differently, straight up telling chloe he's starting to not see himself as the devil anymore. then he kills cain & his devil face comes back, & now he's struggling with viewing himself as a monster again. he doesn't defend himself against accusations of evil because part of him is terrified that they're true. also guilt-tripping chloe after she clearly already feels bad about the whole situation isn't a great move imo
Netflix brings such deep and organic emotions to Lucifer ever since they picked it up. The acting was amazing, the SE, even the story was quite interesting
Netflix had very little to do with that. They were the backbone, allowing them to bring the show to its full potential, by taking away some restrictions, giving them a bigger budget, and only accepting 10 episodes. Besides that, the props of the writing and acting all go to the original crew, because nothing has changed in that regard. They are incredibly grateful that they could continue the story, and this season was pretty much their love letter to the fans because we made it possible. This show's community is unique. I never see anyone being toxic and there's only love. Both from the people who work on the show, and the people who watch it.
Chloe's outburst that she was terrified of Lucifer is one of the best scenes in this show. One of the only times Chloe actually loses her composure and points out the obvious to Lucifer. It's so powerful. The clash of these two characters at their very core levels is so amazing and compelling
This scene is so much more impactful when you realize that Chloe unintentionally broke Lucifer's heart in nearly every way that hurts him the most. He thought she'd abandoned him(like his parents), and when she came back she lied to him(something he hates) and planned to cast him back into Hell(like his father). On top of which, she couldn't quite accept all of him in that moment. He poured his heart out about his fears about showing his dark side to her, and now that he has, all those fears just became a reality in that moment for him. Definitely not something that can be resolved with a single apology, but so glad it happened because it revealed huge issues that both of them had to overcome.
When the whole comment section is about how great the acting and set up of a scene is, you know what good actors/ actresses and studios are. Thanks to both the crew and ofc Netflix!
How has Lauren German not gotten some kind of award yet? Tom is perfect as Lucifer, but I feel like Lauren has been the shining star through the whole series.
This is probably the most heart shattering thing Lucifer ever went through, he completely shuts down after, doesn't leave his penthouse for weeks, just drinks himself into a hole, it wouldn't of surprised me if he didn't feel like returning to hell after that. Chloe was his one hope, his one light for being seen the way he always wanted to be seen, and then she throws in his face that he's evil, that everything bad happens because of him, something he hates to his core, having the one person he loves see him as evil when she promised him multiple times that she wouldn't broke him. He's not been shy with telling her how much he hated hell, how it was terrible, how he didn't like what he was forced to do, she knows it's his worst nightmare, yet she still tried to send him back and in the end she did send him back to hell, so Kinley succeeded in the end. She knows Lucifer hates liars, and people who pretend, yet she does exactly that, she lies to him 7 times in this one episode, and she pretended to care for him whilst working with Father Kinley, and that she only tried to fix the issue after she was caught instead of being honest from the start. He's told her about 5 times that all that will ever matter to him is what she thinks of him, so hearing her say that she can't accept him must of felt like he was dying all over again, especially considering how much Lucifer has done for her, how much he'd changed, become a better person, and all of that was thrown back in his face, because a book said he was bad. Chloe of all people shouldn't judge Lucifer for his past life, considering she went through the same stuff when she joined the police, after hot tub high school, he was the first person to support her when she was down on her luck in S1E1, however she doesn't return the favour to Lucifer when he's desperate for that support
@@merchantmocha4665 Surprisngly, yes? Him being the Devil, or even God, doesn't change they're my buddy. They just happen to be a buddy who either believes or wants to be called the Devil, a little weird but in today's world what's a little weird? Nothing changes after that. Buddy is buddy who just might happen to be the Devil.
Lucifer was signed for 3 seasons with fox then cancelled Netflix picked it up and signed for 1 season only being season 4. Season 5 is still unknown. If it gets good reviews then maybe. Tom Ellis is for the idea for season 5 though
The acting in this scene was amazing, especially from Lauren. She truly stole the scene.When she screamed "BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED" I legit teared up. She delivered it so perfectly. This episode was truly Lauren's episode. She nailed the emotions!
You can tell that at first he is angry with her but once she told him that she’s Terrified, Tom is such a terrific actor that you can tell he is trying to hide the heart break at first and that he is so depressed just from the words that Chloe says
It’s really shows the quality of the writing and acting when you’re sympathetic to both sides of the story. I really feel for Lucifer, betrayed by the person he trusts the most, but I also feel for Chloe, who’s entire world has been turned upside down, from her entire belief system and finding out the man she loves the most infamous figure of all time. I get chills every time I watch this scene.
One of the things I love the most about this amazing series is that all the writers and Tom Ellis as Lucifer actually managed to turn the DEVIL itself into a relatable, sympathetic character. Just the fact that they took what is widely considered as evil encarnate an made it as endearing as he is is just astonishing. Hats off.
It must be devastating for Lucifer to realize that his therapist, who he sees like a few hours a week at most, dealt with him being the Devil better than the woman he's in love with and who he spends most of his time with, the woman for which he literally died twice and went to Hell to save, the one for who he killed his own brother to protect, can't even answer a yes or no question 1 month after learning about it even after trying to betray him. Like, even ignoring everything else he did for her over time, just the fact that he didn't hurt her or her close ones for literally trying to kill him should speak volumes about how he's really not what the history books says he is. To be honest I was really disappointed and I kinda thought that this would make him turn into exactly what she believed he was, because such betrayal after everything is exactly how you create a villain.
I felt so sorry for both of them. He has to face the most brutal rejection for being who he is. She has to face that openig up about her true feelings and insecurities just devastated her loved one's heart. I'm not crying, you're crying.
One of the saddest part about this scene isn't spoken about enough, which is when he turns his back on her after saying he's gotten his answer, you can see Chloe's heart shatter that he's turning his back on her, this isn't what she wants, you can see the regret wash over her, she wants to say something more but doesn't think it would even help the situation so she swallows her words and walks out in tears. I think this is when she realised the gravity of her mistake, that there might not be away of coming back from this, she's lost the devil she loves, her 2 best friends in Lucifer and Maze, her partner, her biggest supporter and someone she saw as a step-dad to Trixie because she lost sight of the man she fell in love with in the first place. her entire world is crumbling all over again.
i wonder if maybe he turns his back cos he's tearing up and doesn't want to let her see that. There were two broken hearts in the room right then. Have to agree, this is a powerful scene with amazing acting from both of them
The slightly annoying thing is that he didn't get an answer at all. She said she wanted to accept him, but didn't know if she could. She didn't reject him; he just needed to give her more time.
This right here is the best scene of the whole series in my opinion the acting from both of them is top notch the emotion, the twisted pain, the complicated anguish of the whole situation is just phenomenal
Lauren German delivers amazing acting here, she's really talented and proved it many times throughout her carrier, sad it didn't get recognized as it should have.
1:12 - 1:23 for me this is the best moment of season 4... when she actually has to admit that she lied to him. And Lauren German is acting it so sweetly... it hits even harder if you rewatch it during season 5 when it becomes absolutely characteristic that he never lied to her.
It's not that easy. Can you wake up next to the ACTUAL devil for the rest of your life no matter how much you loved him? You might say yes but it's easier said than done. It's not going to be peaches and roses knowing the person you love turns out all of a sudden to be the devil, the embodiment of all evil. Accepting takes time. Sometimes a lot of time.
@@jaxonrangerdiesel6406 What makes you think that Lucifer is the embodiment of all evil? The Bible? You must judge people by their actions and their impact on people, not by what some random book says about them
Honestly as angsty as as their goodbye was, Tom and Lauren's acting hits different in this scene. Lucifer's heartbreak, the betrayal he felt from the one person he selflessly loved and Chloe's feelings for him, overpowered by her fear and the overwhelming feeling of falling in love with an immortal. No matter how many times I watch it I still feel that invisible punch to my gut. I'll never understand how Lucifer doesn't get recognition in awards shows when there's acting like this.
no not yet my guess is that is drama being saved for next season i feel it maybe a romantic moment of chole not caring that lucifer's father put her in his path.
When I first saw this scene, I initially interpreted it as Lucifer resenting Chloe for not being able to truly accept him, but after some deep thought, as well as watching subsequent episodes, I realized it was actually him resenting himself, because his mere existence is causing pain and fear to someone he cares about deeply.
While I'm mixed, I also lost faith in her here too. While I like Lauren I'm not a fan of Chloe. When the show started, I found Chloe to be a strong woman. But with the whole thing with Pierce and the priest she lost that fire and I found her to be a shell of herself. In the last season she got her strong personality back. Yes it was the normal average human reaction but Linda's was so much better. Luci had never lied to her, he always said who he was and she didn't believe him. Unpopular opinion here but I am on the side of Lucieve. I loved him with Eve. She wasn't the best for him but they could've explored that relationship a bit further rather than have poor Eve become a Chloe clone. Although Eve and Maze are wonderful together
You can actually see it when Chloe calls herself a nobody, he's thinking "you're not a nobody." He just feels hurt by Chloe. He doesn't think anything less of her.
You know what makes it even sadder? The fact that he is the devil personified and he could lie every time he wanted to but he did not because he loves her and on the other hand Chloe who is just a human was capable of break his trust, lied to him and disappointed him at the same time. How sad that a celestial was capable to remain truth to himself and to her was betrayed by the person he love the most.
This is where I lost faith in Chloe. She knows who he is. He has NEVER lied to her. Not ONCE. He has risked his life time and time again for her. And she KNOWS it. And she knows how big a deal that is, for an Immortal to risk his LIFE for her. "Could you accept me like this?" "I don't know!" Right there, she showed how "typically human" she was.
Absolutely agree. She also claimed to know who he was, but clearly not since she actually found out. And the worst part is that she wanted him to change. She should have accepted Lucifer for who he was. She cannot handle that kind of life
I disagree. A revelation of this magnitude was bound to have a huge impact on their relationship and on the way Chloe perceives Lucifer. It would be totally unrealistic for Chloe to accept him right away, especially since we know that her character is very calculative and strictly logical. Yes, turning to Father Kinley was a treacherous thing to do, but she needed someone in relation to the church and religion to help her make sense of something so incomprehensible to her. The only one who is "typically human" in this situation is actually Father Kinley, who poisoned her thoughts and tried to paint Lucifer as the bad guy, because as any typical human, he tried to cast out what he thought was evil incarnate, without meeting Lucifer in person, as Chloe suggested to him many times. He judged a book by its cover and he was a blinded fanatic. All in all, Chloe's initial reaction does not equal betrayal and does not mean her faith and trust in Lucifer wavered, not to mention she never actually went through with her plan to send him back to hell. It makes her flawed, not typical. And most importanly, her initial hesitation is what made their connection stronger; it made her finally accept her love for him (which she was in denial about) and it made him take the first step to self-love.
@@ΠαναγιώταΧριστοφή-ξ6τ Except she DID try to kill him. It was a literal accident that stopped her. When he left the room on their "date", she pulled out the poison. She was about to pour it into his drink when he startled her, and she dropped it. But again, you say she is strictly calculative and logical. So logic says she should listen to a guy she met and listened to for a single month....and kill a man who has ALWAYS said who he was. Has always been telling her that he was the Devil. And yet he risked his life over and over and over again to help her. You're gonna tell me that a month is all it took to warp her perception of someone she was around for 3 years, and convince to KILL? Especially a law enforcement officer who has stuck to her guns, and refused to be corrupted by those around her.....was in one month convinced she needed to go and murder the Devil.....? Huh?
@@fyrelord7826 Yes, I know that it was an accident that stopped her. However, I'm convinced that even she hadn't accidentally dropped it, she would have stopped herself last-minute from actually pouring the poison. Unfortunately, since the accident occurred, I cannot for a fact claim that she would have indeed restrained herself, but you also cannot say that she would have without a doubt gone through with it, because neither of those scenarios took place and are mere speculation. So that is really no argument for neither of us. So, let's take a look at things that ACTUALLY happened. Logic does not always go hand in hand with trust. Trust is a feeling and feelings don't make sense in loads of cases. Of course she would be swayed by the priest, because he is a person of authority and knowledgeable when it comes to faith, religion and church issues. Ergo, any logical person would listen to the priest and Chloe did just that, but that doesn't mean she trusted him. Point is, you might trust someone, but logic and trust are sometimes in conflict. However, even when the plan to send Lucifer back to hell was in the works, even when Chloe and the priest were talking about it, you can still see that Chloe was never fully convinced and always back-pedalled. She came back numerous times to tell the priest that he didn't know Lucifer the way she did and that he's a good person. Hence, Chloe's heart and love never strayed from Lucifer. It was terror and confusion that made her easy prey for someone like Father Kinley, who manipulated those feelings. And as I said, not only did she do the right thing in the end, but her mistakes fortified their relationship and love. It would be absolutely ridiculous if she had zero doubts and accepted lucifer right away.
@@ΠαναγιώταΧριστοφή-ξ6τ I wish there were more commenters like you on this topic. It seems everyone thinks that finding you're in love with the ACTUAL devil is no big deal, like it's something someone should be able to process in a day or two, like it wouldn't completely turn someone's entire world upside down. It would be unrealistic if she didn't have a massive freak out over this knowledge.
I loved that the episodes are shorter and the filler episodes are gone. Netflix not only saved lucifer but it let it make itself become better and IMO the best season by far.
"Could you accept me like this?"
"I don't know."
*heart shatters*
She at least told the truth.... not like she faked it....
@@retroK6607 I know but sometimes the truth hurts 😢
@@retroK6607 effectively she told the truth or not to me because in this episode we see Chloe was scared when Lucifer touched her and it proves that she was still seeing the bad in Lucifer,his actual face, the devil's face et it scared her so to me she didn't really tell the truth because yeah she doesn't really know if she could accept him like this but deep inside her she knows that she couldn't accept this for the moment she will be able to later but not now so in my opinion she didn't tell all the truth
Some bullshit
This is bullshit this entire show he has tried 2 convince her he is the devil she even has seen him do shit that Normal humans cant. Its not lucifers fault that every1 blames him 4 they're sins lucifer doesnt want 2 b seen as the DEVIL he wants chloe 2 c him as a friend so now this just show that chloe only saw lucifer as the DEVIL even after everything they have been through i umderstand she is scared hell i would b 2 but instead of looking at the stories and legends about lucifer look at wats infront of u after lucifer has doen so muuch 4 chloe so i dont blame lucifer 4 being upset its bullshit
Powerful scene. This is all a clear indication that Fox couldn’t handle the heat and Netflix is where Lucifer truly shines.
Because Fox is a horrible company that ruins, and holds shows back.
@@LostNbound Makes you feel a lot less bad about Disney buying them out, yes?
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@@ThatLaloBoy legit
@@johnathonhaney8291 What is disney gonna do? Renew firefly for 1 season and cancel it again?
I doubt Lucifer has felt this level of heartbreak since his dad cast him out of Heaven
i mean he wanted to spite his dad with a rebellion
so it's more like hate than a heartbreak
TheCommentGuy it's normal to hate a parent that neglects and rejects you...
@@gingerisevil02 exactly
"Heaven was.. well, hell"- Lucifer
Lucifer is easily the most human character in the show
The most Fascinating psychological patient, from Dr. Linda.
The irony
Even though technically he is the LEAST human on the show, not even being a full on angel!
@@DJ-ln8iy He is a full on angel, though. He is an Archangel. It's just that he fell and also took on the role of "The Devil". However, there's no race of sentient beings that are called "Devils". There are Demons, to be sure, but these are separate entities that are created in an entirely different manner.
@@mousedorff453 Yes but he is also very different from angels. Angels do not possess his Mojo nor his Devil face or form. Maybe it came when his farther just decided to send him to hell but if it didn't that make's him VERY different. so maybe he IS an Angel but you can't deny that he is quite different from the other Angel's up in Heaven
She wouldn't be surprised if she had listened to him only a million times he said "I'm the devil"
FAAAAACTS! like hes been telling her for YEARS. Maze too lol.
lets say your brother or someone came up to you and said he was the devil every single day would you actually believe he is the devil... same situation for chloe
@@Rayzzzzz except she saw a flicker of his devil face in the warehouse early on.
I don't think it is that easy to really believe someone that he is the actual devil. We, humans, are more likely to try to explain situations and miracles in a more realistic and simple way than just to believe that someone is the devil. Her reaction is completely realistic.
@@aliciaborth3016 yes, but he bleed when she shot him, so of course she did not believe he is the devil because normally the devil is immortal and does mot bleed
Can we just give credit how excellent Lauren German's acting is? Love her
Agreed. Her performance here...astonishing!
Judgmental yesssss
She's underrated! I can feel the pain from how she deliver her lines. Very smart, I say.
Can we? her performance here is as amazing as ever, she really is able to draw the emotion behind her character, with a talent that makes you forget sometimes you're watching a tv show.
Especially since she's so happy go lucky and chipper IRL, she's so good at this!
THE HURT IN HIS EYES. IT BREAKS MY HEART.
Sameee
I just wanna hug him
Mee too
She a outstanding actor
You can feel the pain. All throughout the series he's been struggling with the fact that humanity sees him as a monster and here he realises the one person he thought saw him differently is as terrified as they are :'(
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To be honest? Lucifer even in Christianity is probably one of the most misunderstood characters. In the beginning Lucifer was the one who was tasked to help create humans and the universe and well just about everything and he wanted too. But he wanted to take the credit and glory from god. So he rebelled and was cast out of heaven. Thus the reason the burden to make all of creation fell on Christ/micheal. For all we truly know? Lucifer is just an archangel who is really the embodiment of sorrow and betrayal rather than evil. He doesn’t desire to kill humanity. What Lucifer wants in Christianity is for people to follow him and suffer from there own afflictions and temptations just as he has. I have sympathy for him. This show would more than likely paint a perfect picture of what the devil actually is. He was one of the first born children and he has felt betrayed ever since then. This show has actually made me cry thanks to Tom ellis’s portrayal. He was cast from his home and family. Although the rebellion probably doesn’t make him look good? I’d be pissed too.
In Sandman is stated that Lucifer mocked the human beigns for using him as there scapegoat for there own failures and despite been charged to torment the souls of sinners, he consider that there own guilt and ego is what bound souls to damnation.
its sad
Al Stone: My same thought.I simply stoped watching the serie because I felt Lucifers pain you know, it really hit me.
Not everybody can handle knowing the LEGIT devil as well as Linda, but I love Chloe’s character progression throughout this season. Coping it in a way a lot of ppl would.
There’s a huge difference. With Linda, Lucifer was more open about his emotions so Linda saw him more than just the Devil. Chloe is barely seeing his human side
This show is evil
@@56jklove Nah you're evil.
@@KanekiKen-fc3qo how? that is a pretty bold claim, especially since the show is about he devil and i know its from a comic but its about the devil. that is like they made a show about hitler as himself being the good guy.
@@56jklove Yeh my point is anyone can make a bold statement without knowing shit. The show isn't about the devil, it's about us being slightly wrong about the devil. One thing it portrays well is that we don't actually know anything about Lucifer because we derive our knowledge from books made by men. Plus I want you to define evil because what's evil about questioning shit we know nothing about? To me it just seems like you're another one of those brainwashed Christian's who doesn't know how to think for himself. God made us in his image and he made us intelligent enough to question stuff like this. If he didn't want us to think then he wouldn't have made us this way to begin with.
Season 4 is the "Godfather" of the series. Netflix turned a cheesy police procedural sitcom into a masterpiece.
Yes!
The show is still the same, written by the same people. The only thing Netflix did was allow more swearing and nudity and increase their budget. This season was this good because everyone who worked on it were glad they weren't cancelled, and wanted to give back to the fans.
... well masterpiece is a stretch. A much much better show.
The writing is demanding great acting and the actors are delivering.
@@agentundercover yes its still the same people, but you'd be surprised how quality varys when different studio takes them on. The talent has always been there but the nature of how Netflix is as a production company allows these talents to shine even brighter.
Fact
This "I don't know", so powerful!
Dang, Lauren is such a talented actress.
Cause shes "German"
@@Saadi_Lyfe badum tsss.
And the "How am I Chloe Decker, a nobody, suppose to deal with that"
@@Saadi_Lyfe - Dutch and English, actually. Ancestrally, anyway.
Fr, it’s like I could see the characters actual reactions just from her. Keep rising queen along with Tom’s sexy, talented ass
I can understand why Chloe tried to send Lucifer back to hell cuz she was so scared, but damn u can see how hurt Lucifer felt after discovering what she tried to do to him. How she betrayed him. That really sucked. Props to Tom n Lauren on the acting
Just like how his father did to him
In her defense hes the litteraly the devil so you have to imagine how hard it is for her. Not only that he is living proof that heaven and hell exists.
yes, but is a very realistic reaction, I mean, didn't you do the same thing if you were in her skin?
The sadest part is that she cant see how much shes hurting him at this point. Imagine opening up like that to the person you love for them to tell you they're terrified of you 😥
@@eclaire_x88x if you watch closely when she says it the way his face changes
I took this as she was terrified that she was in loved with him still and to come to terms with the fact that she is in love with the actual devil.
yeah i feel that is what drove her to be so reckless in her actions
it's because it was a combo of her denial of his true form and her love for him.
Also explains why she was so worked up with trying to figure out the bleeding thing, afraid he was "manipulating her" because of what the priest said
Why does everyone keep repeating that stupid phrase "actual devil"? I know I'm crying the wilderness but I really did not like Season 4. Felt like watching a train wreck or a puppy being kicked around by the people it loves.
Love? Bullshit.
Lisa Cook because it's a lot to take on and they're empathizing with the character??
“Because I’m TERRIFIED!!!!!” 😭😭😭😭😭😭
That would've been the perfect moment when Lucifer told Chloe "at least Linda didn't betray me when she saw my devil face"
Vergil the legendary dark slayer umm no that sound like something a three year old whiny would say
@@chasired1510 no a three year old would say "i told you i was the devil, did you listen? Nooooo"
Because I'm DETECTIVE
She’s terrified of the man that saved her life...how many times?
End scene: *dramatic asf*
Next episode: “so what’s going on with that new case”
Really?
One of the thing I didn’t like about this show. It’s still amazing but the story line sometimes disappoints because we expect a lot and somehow it feels like we’re back to the beginning in the next episode
That’s so fuckin true
@@mathiscaty4408 yeah I think that's one of the reasons why people loved GOT cuz it was basically a 10 hour movie with continual peogression
And they forget everything that happened previously
Tom Ellis and Lauren German gave performances of a life time with this season
seriously this show is one of the best written ever in recent years.
sure season 3's writing was a little rough around the edges but season 4 easily fixed that by making both Lucifer and Chole's characters both act like adults and not inconstantly immature/mature i do love how S4 did literally everything season 3 did but did it better and acheived even more. the love triangle was executed perfectly and even had a really cool twist to it and there was no dragging of pace whatsoever. truly a successful firey hellish season.
s1 was great...s2 was ayt.....s3 was horrible
@@samuela9245 Season 3 to me picked up in the last couple episodes but was annoying at the beginning. I somewhat understand why the show was cancelled as I believe they use pre-finale ratings.
What exactly was the twist? Because I felt no surprise whatsoever with the outcome.
@@SenoritaTorres1 a twist in the sense of
there was no twist everyone was expecting Eve to be a ultra Possessive evil seductress whom would immediately go fully villain the moment Lucifer ditched her for Chole but she didn't she had a fully rounded of arc like everyone in the show and what was impressive is that it felt like she'd been in the show since day one and that she hadn't just been introduced into the show this season.
@@samuela9245 all 3 seasons of lucifer were awesome 3 was simply a little bit too dragged out.
I think its realistic the way chloe is reacting. Interesting season! The feels of the episode
Yeah!! Best coment
She's not very religiously literate though. A lot of Jews don't think Ha Satan is evil incarnate .
Jewish POV: HaSatan
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Religious literacy is the knowledge of, and ability to understand, religion. The importance of being religiously literate is increasing as globalisation has created greater links and migration between societies of different faiths and cultures. It has been proposed that including religious literacy as an aspect of public education would improve social cohesion.[1
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_literacy
What is Satanism?
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Don't get me started about what she said about being an atheist back in season 1. "I'm not an atheist exactly because I believe in good and evil." (Rolls eyes) Atheism is just a position on the God claim. Nothing else.
This season every episode is exciting
yeah some people were upset at the way Chloe treated Lucifer but I feel like the way she acted was how most of us would react. I mean, people literally go mentally insane when they see a glimpse of his devil face. like that first criminal.
@@rebecca8477 Nah, I'm an atheist who is interested in learning about other religions. Lucifer in the show is actually somewhat closer to how Ha Satan is said to function in Jewish tradition. Not exactly, but closer. (I.E. Like God's District Attorney.)
This scene is just pure gold from the acting, the emotions from both sides and the dialogue. If you knew the person you love is the devil could you accept it and would you still love that person?
I could still love him.
Well mines a She Devil but hell yeah, Shes Awesome !
I would accept it without a doubt and love him for eternity.
even I find it hard to answer the question really
Well everyone’s saying they would. I would love to believe I would as well.
But honestly it’s a lot more complicated than that.
Chloe went through so much with Lucifer and no matter how many times he went out of his way to save her life when he knew he would get hurt, the moment he showed her his devil face she got terrified.
Yes I’m sure we would all (or most people) get over the fact that our loved one is Lucifer but that face is completely different.
You’ve built a love with someone that you believe is a normal person to see their face morph into something completely different and then find out he’s the evil written in every bible and is supposedly the core of all evil, that’s a completely different thing.
I would hopefully accept my loved one but obviously a lot of warming up to his other side would be needed.
It’s not that she was scared of him, she was scared that she was in love with the actual devil
There are so many layers to this scene that you have to watch it multiple times to try to catch them. He has always told her what he is, she didn’t believe him and fell in love, she saw what he actually is, and now she’s scared shitless even though she still loves him. This short clip is mentally exhausting but pure genius in writing, directing, and especially acting.
It's really not, it's acting and directing on the level of shitty reality tv
@@arturbogdan353 😒🙄
Layers? Bro this is the bare fkn minimum of what's presented to us
I can feel his pain he loves her always tells the truth to her and she tried to hurt him 😭
Silverangel agreed 100%
@@toughteddy4746 thanks yeah... I needed to write it because I could not stop think about it so I was happy when I saw comment. I just love Luce....adore him and it's breaking my heart seeing him with such pain in his eyes...
Silverangel same even tho he’s an actor he’s so good at it , it makes me genuinely upset if he’s hurt or upset
@@toughteddy4746 yeah I feel the same... Tom is brilliant actor and I just love this beautiful man... 😍 seeing Luce in such pain touched me deeply. I'm happy I'm not alone. Wish you amazing weekend.
Silverangel don’t you mean Bloody brilliant
I see both of their perspectives.
Rameses Bermudez me too. Yet such a powerful feeling
Same. Yet some people wanted to insist she was "a bitch" but like... that's a lot to take in.
Chloe is scared by the enormity of loving someone who is part of maintaining universal balance.
Lucifer is hurt as he's always been honest with Chloe and has shown her his true personality.
Same here. I can definitely sympathise with Chloe - but also for Lucifer.
I get whys she's scared but she's known Lucifer for ages now so why would she thinks he's evil?
Imagine someone meeting Tom.
*"Hey you're Lucifer!"*
@ReEnemate to me she is Laurie from Hawaii 5-0 😂
Riddled Note I would’ve been like “Hey detective Decker!”
Rebeca Animates I would’ve been “Ahh Detective”
"What's up Lucifer" 💕😂
If I meet Lauren I'm gonna scream "HEEEEEEELLO DETECTIVE"
Oh my god does anyone else notice how wonderful the lighting is, with both characters being half covered in dark (for lucifer) and light (for chloe) but both also having flickering lights showing their mixed moralities and feelings ahhhhh i'm so happy lucifer is at netflix now
I feel the one thing the show has had 100% right always is the lighting always an excellent job
The 16 dislikes are from fox being salty about how much better the show got without them
Phenomenal Lion Brooklyn 99, Lethal Weapon, Lucifer. All shows Fox lost because of their dumbass decisions
Netflix is probably gonna ruin it at some point though. Most of their originals are terrible political tripe with zero substance. But I'm glad they picked this one up. So far so good.
Hmm 16 dislikes I think theirs more than that
@@TheStraightestWhitest yeah. season 6.... oof.
I really liked this scene because it felt really natural and a real reaction that someone would have if they found out someone they cared about was the Devil. She's someone who's really scared and conflicted and lauren played it so well without getting mean or irrational.
sdasi1, I thought the same. It wasn’t that “all that heaven stuff” was real, it was how she felt about Lucifer that was really tormenting her. She knows that she should fear and hate and revile WHAT he is, but she can’t deny that WHO she is is nothing like what she’s been told, and more than that, it’s the man she’s fallen in love with.
Her performance here really was great. I poo-pooed it as too emotional originally, but now I understand the nuance of it.
Also? Wow. They REALLY nailed the make up on Netflix lol
Hes not only the devil hes living proof heaven and hell exist
She's terrified that he's manipulated her into feeling the way she does for him, not terrified he's going to hurt her, she says that she's just a nobody, why would the devil himself, pay so much attention to a random human? Kinley put in her head that she was just being used as some sick joke by Lucifer.
Chloe didn't formulate what she wanted to say properly which is understandable considering how highly emotional she was in the moment, but she just wants to know if he really cares about her or if it was just a game. When he asks if she can accept him, she says that she wants too, that she's trying too, she doesn't want to lie to him again after all the Kinley stuff so she chooses to be honest and say that she's not really sure.
Upon Lucifer turning away from her she instantly regrets what she said, but doesn't think anything she says will change how much she's just crushed Lucifer, you can see that he's clearly holding back a near total emotional breakdown, just by the look in his eyes
I love the way Chloe develops from this ep to the last it’s amazing, she just needed time with Lucifer 😭
"BECAUSE I WAS TERRIFIED!" damn that hit me hard
Fear is the root of all evil
“I don’t care that he was trying to hurt me. I care that you were.”
This whole scene summarized in this one line.
Luci is probably used to people trying to hurt/kill him. But the one person he loved and cared trying to hurt him. The worst kind of betrayal.
Lucifer's fear that Chloe wouldn't accept him was unfortunately vindicated when she went behind his back.
I really wish they had written in more dialogue where Lucifer got to throw it back in Chloe's face how badly she messed up.
"How am I, a regular human, supposed to deal with that?"
"By remembering that you know me! You know who I am! I'm not just some fairy tale to you! We've been working together for over a year, and in that time, I've never lied to you about who I am. Now all of a sudden when you realize I was telling the truth, what, everything you know about me, everything we've been through together, that all takes a back seat to what you read in some book from a thousand years ago?! I would expect this from a stranger, detective, but I thought that you base your conclusions on what the evidence shows you."
"I do, and I --"
"Well, *evidentially* not. I think you should leave, detective. I wouldn't want to continue to terrify you."
YES omg Im so tired of Chloe treating Lucifer like shit and he is not doing anything ESPECIALLY after she almost killed him!!!!
Get this man a job as a script writer for lucifer
@@yunglord_z9743 I'm flattered
Reading it in Lucifer's voice in my head and all the emotions,,would have been great!
idk man, i think the fact he doesn't defend himself speaks to his own inner conflict. at the end of season 3, he had finally realized that he controlled his wings / devil face and started to see himself differently, straight up telling chloe he's starting to not see himself as the devil anymore. then he kills cain & his devil face comes back, & now he's struggling with viewing himself as a monster again. he doesn't defend himself against accusations of evil because part of him is terrified that they're true.
also guilt-tripping chloe after she clearly already feels bad about the whole situation isn't a great move imo
Netflix brings such deep and organic emotions to Lucifer ever since they picked it up. The acting was amazing, the SE, even the story was quite interesting
Netflix had very little to do with that. They were the backbone, allowing them to bring the show to its full potential, by taking away some restrictions, giving them a bigger budget, and only accepting 10 episodes. Besides that, the props of the writing and acting all go to the original crew, because nothing has changed in that regard. They are incredibly grateful that they could continue the story, and this season was pretty much their love letter to the fans because we made it possible. This show's community is unique. I never see anyone being toxic and there's only love. Both from the people who work on the show, and the people who watch it.
@@MetroVerse honestly i think 10 episode was test
@@lilquincy6292 What do you mean?
@@MetroVerse well maybe but they didn't drag out the story like fox did with 26 episode
I got chills when she said "Because I'm terrified"
Her acting is phenomenal in this scene
OMG lauren acting in this season is just beyond words
Chloe's outburst that she was terrified of Lucifer is one of the best scenes in this show. One of the only times Chloe actually loses her composure and points out the obvious to Lucifer. It's so powerful. The clash of these two characters at their very core levels is so amazing and compelling
It just hits different when a composed character breaks down
This scene is so much more impactful when you realize that Chloe unintentionally broke Lucifer's heart in nearly every way that hurts him the most. He thought she'd abandoned him(like his parents), and when she came back she lied to him(something he hates) and planned to cast him back into Hell(like his father). On top of which, she couldn't quite accept all of him in that moment. He poured his heart out about his fears about showing his dark side to her, and now that he has, all those fears just became a reality in that moment for him. Definitely not something that can be resolved with a single apology, but so glad it happened because it revealed huge issues that both of them had to overcome.
Lauren was amazing in this scene.
I really hope season 5 is about Chloe finding out she is not a nobody at all but a miracle
amethyst5512 she already found out didn’t she?
Michael Maroutha no she didn’t
She will find out, on a q&a ildy modrovich mentioned that if they get a season 5 this will be one of the things they want to explore
ionut adrian I wonder if God will tell her himself, or Lucifer will, then God clarifies it. 🤔
mangalover0149 doubt it... we still haven’t met God. it’d be interesting, but kinda cheesy if they put a face to Him
The acting between Lauren and Tom in this scene is flawless.
When the whole comment section is about how great the acting and set up of a scene is, you know what good actors/ actresses and studios are. Thanks to both the crew and ofc Netflix!
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He literally had tears in his eyes at 3:23. Never seen him like this. This episode was insane 😭. Season 5 can’t come soon enough ❤️
I know cuz he's hurt by the love of his life
How has Lauren German not gotten some kind of award yet? Tom is perfect as Lucifer, but I feel like Lauren has been the shining star through the whole series.
Completely agreed with you
Don't give up on her. Not yet.
Not ever 🙏
if i was lucifer then i would of she was being worse than his family she was going to betray him
"im afraid it's too late detective" -lucifer
Great acting and chemistry between these two. Both of them nailed this scene.
When he said “how can you do that to me, to me” my heart broke. 😭😭
This is probably the most heart shattering thing Lucifer ever went through, he completely shuts down after, doesn't leave his penthouse for weeks, just drinks himself into a hole, it wouldn't of surprised me if he didn't feel like returning to hell after that.
Chloe was his one hope, his one light for being seen the way he always wanted to be seen, and then she throws in his face that he's evil, that everything bad happens because of him, something he hates to his core, having the one person he loves see him as evil when she promised him multiple times that she wouldn't broke him.
He's not been shy with telling her how much he hated hell, how it was terrible, how he didn't like what he was forced to do, she knows it's his worst nightmare, yet she still tried to send him back and in the end she did send him back to hell, so Kinley succeeded in the end.
She knows Lucifer hates liars, and people who pretend, yet she does exactly that, she lies to him 7 times in this one episode, and she pretended to care for him whilst working with Father Kinley, and that she only tried to fix the issue after she was caught instead of being honest from the start.
He's told her about 5 times that all that will ever matter to him is what she thinks of him, so hearing her say that she can't accept him must of felt like he was dying all over again, especially considering how much Lucifer has done for her, how much he'd changed, become a better person, and all of that was thrown back in his face, because a book said he was bad.
Chloe of all people shouldn't judge Lucifer for his past life, considering she went through the same stuff when she joined the police, after hot tub high school, he was the first person to support her when she was down on her luck in S1E1, however she doesn't return the favour to Lucifer when he's desperate for that support
"You are the actuall Devil"
All fans: What the hell he was telling you from the begning? XD
Exactly, welcome to the program lady!
If your friend kept telling you Hes the devil, would you believe him?
@@merchantmocha4665 Surprisngly, yes? Him being the Devil, or even God, doesn't change they're my buddy. They just happen to be a buddy who either believes or wants to be called the Devil, a little weird but in today's world what's a little weird? Nothing changes after that. Buddy is buddy who just might happen to be the Devil.
Lauren is absolutely amazing in this scene and all through season 4.
Lauren is in my mind the greatest actress I have ever seen she makes me believe that all this is true and not a show. Thank you so much.xxxxxx.
Honestly thought Lucifer would say "You were NEVER a nobody to me, Detective."
You could totally see that when he slightly shook his head.
Me too
You can see that he disagrees with that statement, and tbf she knows she isn't a nobody, because she knows he can't mojo her
One of my favorite scenes from season 4. This is just so realistic acting. Netflix better renew Lucifer for season 5.
I've read that it's signed for 3 seasons. Which makes sense
@@lovesjokes76 I want to believe that's true
@@Jaszczur-sp2tx i mean it makes sense. Why bring back the show just to do one season?
Lucifer was signed for 3 seasons with fox then cancelled Netflix picked it up and signed for 1 season only being season 4. Season 5 is still unknown. If it gets good reviews then maybe. Tom Ellis is for the idea for season 5 though
@@navapoomsathatham5128 There's gonna be a season five!!
The acting in this scene was amazing, especially from Lauren. She truly stole the scene.When she screamed "BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED" I legit teared up. She delivered it so perfectly. This episode was truly Lauren's episode. She nailed the emotions!
She did one hell of a job acting this scene. I really felt the emotions she was projecting.
You can tell that at first he is angry with her but once she told him that she’s Terrified, Tom is such a terrific actor that you can tell he is trying to hide the heart break at first and that he is so depressed just from the words that Chloe says
always knew tom was a great actor and the actual essence of the show, but lauren really stepped up this season. wd.
It’s really shows the quality of the writing and acting when you’re sympathetic to both sides of the story. I really feel for Lucifer, betrayed by the person he trusts the most, but I also feel for Chloe, who’s entire world has been turned upside down, from her entire belief system and finding out the man she loves the most infamous figure of all time. I get chills every time I watch this scene.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good of acting they did during this scene
This show has it all
Great actors
Great soundtracks
Great city shots
One of the things I love the most about this amazing series is that all the writers and Tom Ellis as Lucifer actually managed to turn the DEVIL itself into a relatable, sympathetic character. Just the fact that they took what is widely considered as evil encarnate an made it as endearing as he is is just astonishing. Hats off.
It must be devastating for Lucifer to realize that his therapist, who he sees like a few hours a week at most, dealt with him being the Devil better than the woman he's in love with and who he spends most of his time with, the woman for which he literally died twice and went to Hell to save, the one for who he killed his own brother to protect, can't even answer a yes or no question 1 month after learning about it even after trying to betray him.
Like, even ignoring everything else he did for her over time, just the fact that he didn't hurt her or her close ones for literally trying to kill him should speak volumes about how he's really not what the history books says he is.
To be honest I was really disappointed and I kinda thought that this would make him turn into exactly what she believed he was, because such betrayal after everything is exactly how you create a villain.
Lauren’s acting in this scene is incredible
Definitely Lauren German's best acting thus far! She's just phenomenal!
I felt so sorry for both of them.
He has to face the most brutal rejection for being who he is.
She has to face that openig up about her true feelings and insecurities just devastated her loved one's heart.
I'm not crying, you're crying.
The scene the acting , I loved it this is I want most from TV show
This scene is extremely painful to watch. I can literally feel both of their struggle and pain. What a great acting there!
greatest acting performance of all tv show history idc
One of the saddest part about this scene isn't spoken about enough, which is when he turns his back on her after saying he's gotten his answer, you can see Chloe's heart shatter that he's turning his back on her, this isn't what she wants, you can see the regret wash over her, she wants to say something more but doesn't think it would even help the situation so she swallows her words and walks out in tears.
I think this is when she realised the gravity of her mistake, that there might not be away of coming back from this, she's lost the devil she loves, her 2 best friends in Lucifer and Maze, her partner, her biggest supporter and someone she saw as a step-dad to Trixie because she lost sight of the man she fell in love with in the first place. her entire world is crumbling all over again.
i wonder if maybe he turns his back cos he's tearing up and doesn't want to let her see that. There were two broken hearts in the room right then. Have to agree, this is a powerful scene with amazing acting from both of them
The slightly annoying thing is that he didn't get an answer at all. She said she wanted to accept him, but didn't know if she could. She didn't reject him; he just needed to give her more time.
I still get chills when he says “can you accept me like this“
Chloe's reaction and the look on Lucifers face, man what a heartbreaking scene
This right here is the best scene of the whole series in my opinion the acting from both of them is top notch the emotion, the twisted pain, the complicated anguish of the whole situation is just phenomenal
I think about Lauren’s acting in this scene at least three times a day because of how amazing it is 🙌🏼🤩
This part is a masterpiece. I continuously kept rewinding and rewatching this. Truly beautiful
For someone who doesn’t like the role of playing Chloe, Lauren German really does a good job at showing Chloe’s emotions.
Lauren said she doesn't enjoy playing Chloe?? Wow! This is news to me...
You are probably wondering why my comment got so many likes.
Tamas Maklari Absolutely!
100%
Imagine if Disney got it’s filthy hands on this masterpiece
Reader HighGuy marvel doesn't own this one though so aren't we in the clear?
Lol no way Disney is gonna take this..
You can watch lucifer on Amazon prime
Wow, this season is unbelievably amazing
I don't care what people say, we NEED season 5 !!!
Have you watched all of season 4 already?
@@YourName-lr7pl yea
haven't seen a single person that doesn't want season 5
5 is on the way
yes Buchanan when ? ( I know your comment is old )
Lauren German delivers amazing acting here, she's really talented and proved it many times throughout her carrier, sad it didn't get recognized as it should have.
I cried so much watching lucifer. The acting in this scene is so amazing! Love this, love Lauren German.
The part where she says she's terrafied was very good and it made many things clear. Definetly a good choice of words by the directors
This scene was amazing.Lucifer season 4 was epic can't wait for season 5
Two great actors, this scene ws amazing
I’m not usually an emotional person but this show brings it out of me for some reason
1:12 - 1:23 for me this is the best moment of season 4... when she actually has to admit that she lied to him. And Lauren German is acting it so sweetly... it hits even harder if you rewatch it during season 5 when it becomes absolutely characteristic that he never lied to her.
So emotional and heartbreaking for LUCIFER. Chloe finally realized her true feelings in the last season episode . Let's hope it's not too late
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If she saw him with her heart and not her eyes, she would still see the face of the man she loves.
It's not that easy. Can you wake up next to the ACTUAL devil for the rest of your life no matter how much you loved him? You might say yes but it's easier said than done. It's not going to be peaches and roses knowing the person you love turns out all of a sudden to be the devil, the embodiment of all evil. Accepting takes time. Sometimes a lot of time.
Ok. I'm sure after she got used to it, it would be like morning breath and bad hair days.
Jax Diesel you have a fair point but she should know by now that he punishes evil but isn’t evil himself.
@@jaxonrangerdiesel6406 What makes you think that Lucifer is the embodiment of all evil? The Bible? You must judge people by their actions and their impact on people, not by what some random book says about them
I think his face causes some supernatural fear
Honestly as angsty as as their goodbye was, Tom and Lauren's acting hits different in this scene. Lucifer's heartbreak, the betrayal he felt from the one person he selflessly loved and Chloe's feelings for him, overpowered by her fear and the overwhelming feeling of falling in love with an immortal. No matter how many times I watch it I still feel that invisible punch to my gut. I'll never understand how Lucifer doesn't get recognition in awards shows when there's acting like this.
Omg Lauren’s acting is on point I love it. And how does Lauren cry like it’s sad but also it’s so good
“I’m the devil”
“Lol okay.”
“YOURE THE DEVIL.”
“I was born this way.”
Does she know the part about how God created her just to cross paths with Lucifer?
no not yet my guess is that is drama being saved for next season
i feel it maybe a romantic moment of chole not caring that lucifer's father put her in his path.
no not at all (I watched the whole season 4) however it would be interesting if Chloe knew about that
I was thinking about that. Maybe they’re going to use that to bring him back from hell next season?
@@Kate-n2310 what do you mean by that?
@@Kate-n2310 How so?
When I first saw this scene, I initially interpreted it as Lucifer resenting Chloe for not being able to truly accept him, but after some deep thought, as well as watching subsequent episodes, I realized it was actually him resenting himself, because his mere existence is causing pain and fear to someone he cares about deeply.
“BECAUSE I’M TERRIFIED!!!!!” The look on his face SHATTERED my heart.
It's one of those rare moments in a television series where you can completely understand both sides.
this scene is so heart wrenching! Chloe shows her vulnerability and Lucifer his yearning to be accepted as he is
While I'm mixed, I also lost faith in her here too. While I like Lauren I'm not a fan of Chloe. When the show started, I found Chloe to be a strong woman. But with the whole thing with Pierce and the priest she lost that fire and I found her to be a shell of herself. In the last season she got her strong personality back. Yes it was the normal average human reaction but Linda's was so much better. Luci had never lied to her, he always said who he was and she didn't believe him.
Unpopular opinion here but I am on the side of Lucieve. I loved him with Eve. She wasn't the best for him but they could've explored that relationship a bit further rather than have poor Eve become a Chloe clone. Although Eve and Maze are wonderful together
You can actually see it when Chloe calls herself a nobody, he's thinking "you're not a nobody." He just feels hurt by Chloe. He doesn't think anything less of her.
This.. powerfull scene. She... is a really good actress. Thx Lauren German ♥
“Because im terrified!” Credit to Lauren for the amazing acting, the power and emotion she uses.
I mean i would be scared and confused too if I fell in love literally with the devil.
You know what makes it even sadder? The fact that he is the devil personified and he could lie every time he wanted to but he did not because he loves her and on the other hand Chloe who is just a human was capable of break his trust, lied to him and disappointed him at the same time. How sad that a celestial was capable to remain truth to himself and to her was betrayed by the person he love the most.
This is where I lost faith in Chloe. She knows who he is. He has NEVER lied to her. Not ONCE. He has risked his life time and time again for her. And she KNOWS it. And she knows how big a deal that is, for an Immortal to risk his LIFE for her.
"Could you accept me like this?"
"I don't know!"
Right there, she showed how "typically human" she was.
Absolutely agree. She also claimed to know who he was, but clearly not since she actually found out. And the worst part is that she wanted him to change. She should have accepted Lucifer for who he was. She cannot handle that kind of life
I disagree. A revelation of this magnitude was bound to have a huge impact on their relationship and on the way Chloe perceives Lucifer. It would be totally unrealistic for Chloe to accept him right away, especially since we know that her character is very calculative and strictly logical. Yes, turning to Father Kinley was a treacherous thing to do, but she needed someone in relation to the church and religion to help her make sense of something so incomprehensible to her. The only one who is "typically human" in this situation is actually Father Kinley, who poisoned her thoughts and tried to paint Lucifer as the bad guy, because as any typical human, he tried to cast out what he thought was evil incarnate, without meeting Lucifer in person, as Chloe suggested to him many times. He judged a book by its cover and he was a blinded fanatic.
All in all, Chloe's initial reaction does not equal betrayal and does not mean her faith and trust in Lucifer wavered, not to mention she never actually went through with her plan to send him back to hell. It makes her flawed, not typical. And most importanly, her initial hesitation is what made their connection stronger; it made her finally accept her love for him (which she was in denial about) and it made him take the first step to self-love.
@@ΠαναγιώταΧριστοφή-ξ6τ Except she DID try to kill him. It was a literal accident that stopped her. When he left the room on their "date", she pulled out the poison. She was about to pour it into his drink when he startled her, and she dropped it.
But again, you say she is strictly calculative and logical. So logic says she should listen to a guy she met and listened to for a single month....and kill a man who has ALWAYS said who he was. Has always been telling her that he was the Devil. And yet he risked his life over and over and over again to help her. You're gonna tell me that a month is all it took to warp her perception of someone she was around for 3 years, and convince to KILL? Especially a law enforcement officer who has stuck to her guns, and refused to be corrupted by those around her.....was in one month convinced she needed to go and murder the Devil.....?
Huh?
@@fyrelord7826 Yes, I know that it was an accident that stopped her. However, I'm convinced that even she hadn't accidentally dropped it, she would have stopped herself last-minute from actually pouring the poison. Unfortunately, since the accident occurred, I cannot for a fact claim that she would have indeed restrained herself, but you also cannot say that she would have without a doubt gone through with it, because neither of those scenarios took place and are mere speculation. So that is really no argument for neither of us.
So, let's take a look at things that ACTUALLY happened.
Logic does not always go hand in hand with trust. Trust is a feeling and feelings don't make sense in loads of cases.
Of course she would be swayed by the priest, because he is a person of authority and knowledgeable when it comes to faith, religion and church issues. Ergo, any logical person would listen to the priest and Chloe did just that, but that doesn't mean she trusted him. Point is, you might trust someone, but logic and trust are sometimes in conflict.
However, even when the plan to send Lucifer back to hell was in the works, even when Chloe and the priest were talking about it, you can still see that Chloe was never fully convinced and always back-pedalled. She came back numerous times to tell the priest that he didn't know Lucifer the way she did and that he's a good person.
Hence, Chloe's heart and love never strayed from Lucifer. It was terror and confusion that made her easy prey for someone like Father Kinley, who manipulated those feelings.
And as I said, not only did she do the right thing in the end, but her mistakes fortified their relationship and love. It would be absolutely ridiculous if she had zero doubts and accepted lucifer right away.
@@ΠαναγιώταΧριστοφή-ξ6τ I wish there were more commenters like you on this topic. It seems everyone thinks that finding you're in love with the ACTUAL devil is no big deal, like it's something someone should be able to process in a day or two, like it wouldn't completely turn someone's entire world upside down. It would be unrealistic if she didn't have a massive freak out over this knowledge.
Im glad Netflix grabbed this because this show has so much potential.
I loved that the episodes are shorter and the filler episodes are gone. Netflix not only saved lucifer but it let it make itself become better and IMO the best season by far.
D S how are episodes shorter? actually slightly longer just no adverts never a problem in UK as first three seasons were shown on Amazon
Heart shattering scene. And amazing acting from both Lauren and Tom.
This scene made my and my sister cry and my sister never cries.❤