Line Twists Malfunctions - Skydiving Safety
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- Line twists are a very common opening problem that is most often banal. Nevertheless, knowing how they happen and how to fix them is important to become a safer skydiver.
Also note that even though they are often banal canopy malfunctions, they can still end up in a cutaway.
So in this video, I'll cover how they happen, how to fix them and how to avoid them.
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Airborne training. Round parachute. Reach up. Grab risers. Pull apart risers by grabbing each riser under the line twist and pull apart (from center of neck pulling apart risers towards your shoulders while bicycle kicking. You will unfurl! It’s even more fun at 500 feet with no reserve when it happens. Especially in wind gust over 30 knots. That was my first line twist and it was followed up by me bouncing down the DZ like a damn ping-pong ball. You can’t release a round parachute when it’s under a load, so you get to get dragged down the landing zone until the parachute deflates enough that you can pull your release connections. O yes the good ole days, when we used to justify stupidity as esprit de corps! 😂
Hi I was a welded skydiver girl, type of jump: static line, during my training I was taught a method that consists of "cycling in the air" while keeping the lines separated is very easy, in my third jump my parachute was twisted using the method and it worked, but I have noticed that free jumpers do not do it, do not you know? does not work for them? It's very easy but I don't see them using it, why?
I had a line twist during my AFF level 1. I did everything I learning at groundschool. Alti-check and kicked it out. Before my first jump, I thought I would totally freak out when this happens, but I was calm and knew immediately what to do (maybe because of the adrenaline). Later on, when I was home I then freaked out XD. But I am still skydiving :D.
By the way, I could improve my landing skills thx to this youtube channel. Thank you !!!!
I had line twist on both first and second AFF levels. Also surprisingly I was really calm both times, kept checking the altimeter, and kicked out. And I was mentally prepared for cutout if I couldn't get out at a lower altitude. Hopefully no more line twists for the rest of my AFF jumps!
I just had this happen Friday. I'm an AFF student and it was my 6th jump. I instantly remembered my emergency procedures. I was able to pull on my risers and kick out pretty quickly. I was surprised how calm and collected I was.
Good job. Remember that this is a common problem that we see at deployment. We can work to avoid them through our body position and packing but if it happens, react calmly just like you did. ;) They are rarely a big deal, unless you are spinning.
Lol, I was getting ready for the spin. I put my eyes on my cutaway pillow as I started pulling/kicking. It wasnt a big deal, but glad I was ready. I felt like a boss afterwards. :)
I had my first on Saturday morning,......dive #7,....I kept calm and went right into what I was taught,.....kicked out of it and tested the canopy ,.....and let out a yell heard across four counties!!! So thankful for good training and keeping your cool under pressure. I learn from every one of them ,....I hope to make a lot more
I'm on my AFF 7 and I already had 3 line twists :( I need to be more stable on deployments. Hadn't had much trouble with them, twice I kicked out of them, the other one I counter twisted them, where twist moved to risers which rotated me back to normal... I learned all that in this video! Thanks.
This happened in my second tandem today, glad my instructor was prepared lol
Excellent video I had my second lines last week. I wish I saw this video before.
Another way line twist have an easier opportunity to engage is by tightening your chest strap too tight. This brings the risers closer together and so the lines don't have a far gap between them. I would point out the pulling the risers apart is great to stop the lines from twisting more but it is easier to kick out if the risers are then pushed together. Pulling apart makes the lines tighter in the twist. I'm a big fan of twisting the risers to bring the twist down as you stated. Definitely the most productive method
Thanks for the hint on the chest strap. What would you like the next video to be about?
Had line twists on second AFF jump. Training helped me to address situation immediately. Spinning got worse and canopy started to lay down. Heavy CF started and I was going to cut away! At that time it came free and made a normal landing.
Second AFF... You did awesome!! What a rush. ;)
Thanks. I learned a lot from this one.
Yo, them eyebrows are are on point lol
Great tips! On my third jump of the day yesterday, I had a line twist, and tried bringing the risers together while adding the kick in there, and it came untwisted quickly. Thank you!
Is line twist common
Do experienced skydivers face the problem
Great video. Great information and entertaining to watch. Thank you, have a great day.
Thanks Manuel! Let me know on what I should do a video next! ;)
So glad you mentioned the 2nd method of pushing together and twisting. I've seen this being done on another TH-cam video however my skydiving centre never mention this way. It's one that I will use though if I ever need to.
I did try it not long ago (the shot at the beginning of the video), and it was really easy and quick to get rid of the twists.
@@SkydiveVibes thanks for your reply as always, love your videos, keep it up 👍
This is the short video I saw a while back th-cam.com/video/3YYaz0MriNI/w-d-xo.html
great informations as always madame :)
Your video edits are really good.
Thanks, Parker!
What an eerie coincidence... I've just had a jump about 2 hours ago with more twists than ever before. I managed to solve the problem exactly at the decision altitude, otherwise it would have been my first cut away.
Glad you were able to get out of this situation. Now try to figure out why it happened and let's improve!
Thanks 😊
An AAD fire is not a given on spinning line twists because you need to be falling faster than the activation speed. The canopy might be out and you are spinning fast but not that fast. Like I had spinning line twists while wingsuiting, passed out and the AAD didn't fire. I woke up on the ambulance ride and later my alti showed I impacted at ~25mph which is way below AAD firing speed.
I don't agree with everything but its nice for newer jumpers especially given the push by USPA to "Don't Delay, Cut Away"
Hey Kristina, great input and I totally agree with you. I did say that your AAD may fire "depending" on your speed. What were your injuries after that event?
I had my first line twists today!
Oh lala. How did it go? Any idea on why it happened?
I got a severe line twist and spindle canopy (just like in your video at 2:00) due to a TENSION KNOT that I haven´t noticed on one steering line when I packed my Rig, that´s why it´s so important to check periodically untwisting steering lines from the canopy to the container, fortunately, I opened at 4000 feet so I had enough time for spindle my body til get untwisted my canopy and fix the problem, definitely was a scary experience.
Your awesome!
Hey Thanks Melody! Where do you jump?
I’ve had line twists two times out of the 12 AFF jumps I’ve done. Been able to kick them out both times.
Glad it worked out for you!
What about to twist the dbag before to put it on the pack tray? This is a very comon way to have a twist line malfunction on deployment. In the other hand if you dont know if your line stows are too loose or too tight, take a fish scale and measure the pull force on first locking stow, this has to be in the range of 8-12 lbs, the best way is doble stow all of them if the first two locking stows are to tight then single stow the 2-4 first ones and doble stow the rest, remember always use large rubber bands, not tandem rubber bands be aware of this just comon large rubber bands and always remember to make every bite with the same size usually 3 fingers width and in the same place one respect the other, if not the dbag will dance in the air. Also Its a good idea to use a F111 pilot chute since this material make a most controlled deployment.
Whelp by the time I hit the ground it will to late to know this! I’m sure it was a great video and hopefully I’ll survive this line twist. Anyway can you explain how to...........
Thanks!
My pleasure!
@@SkydiveVibes Ever considered creating a discord channel to get the community together and have people share tips and their experience with eachother?
@@8o8inSquares That is a good idea! I don't know discord very much but a Facebook group perhaps...
@@SkydiveVibes Awesome, however I would strongly suggest going with discord since it's currently the most used chatting platform. It's also super easy to use. I can help setting it up if you want.
But the decision is always yours :D
Blue skies!
Me looking this up mid air, firstly I had to sit through a 12 second ad... and then you took like 4 min to get to the solution... you know how fast I was falling bru?!
You did not include the advertising time of the video!
Unlike everyone else I just finished AFF and I’ve had no malfunctions whatsoever. I watch these videos for when the day comes. How many jumps until your first cutaway?
I was lucky, no reserve rides. Had a number of line twists, and one time my inner cells lower skin ripped along the chord. The canopy was stable and I rode it down. I was careful to pack clean.
I just had this happen! I’m a student at SDC and we do hop n pops as part of the program. I had line twists on my 3500’ jump! I was nervous prior to exit so I deployed a little to early before I was all the way stable (I was head down a little bit).
I kicked out by my decision altitude and landed just fine!
I had my first line twist / cutaway yesterday and it was my solo check dive for AFF. Overall 10th skydive. Once I started spinning I cut that thing away cuz I’m a newb and couldn’t untwist it
I did my first tandem three weeks ago (Sept 2022) and we had line twists. My instructor soon revolved without deploying the emergency chute 😅😂
I have a question!
During static line jumping, can the lines get twisted as well or is this more of an event during free fall jumping?
60% of static line jumps have at least 1 twist (crazy high stat, I know!) But most of them will just straighten themselves out. If you're reallyy twisted, then the bicycle kick+riser spread works just fine. Make sure you get a good exit to avoid more twists in the first place!
Cat B second jump of aff got twists, not sure why I was too worried. Handled it well and kicked out.
but can you land safly with twisted lines rather than cutting away?
What altitude is the cut away on twists, assuming you aren't in a crazy spin?
Over tightening chest strap for free flying or angle jumps
I'm scared to cut away that fast. What if the reserve has a bigger problem than just a twist you can land with?
You don't have another reserve canopy.
If you have a low speed malfunction and you have enough altitude you can always try to fix the situation but if the canopy is uncontrollable you will have to cutaway at some point. Also think that the reserve deployment system and pack job is different and has better chance to open without issues. BUT... Never stop fighting for your life!
Had it yesterday. Jumped without a jump suit, only with a t-shirt for thr first time.... started spinning during the deployment... also the opening was hard...
Rimvydas Tumas totally the t shirts fault
I doubt it would be because of your shirt. The opening would be a better hint.
other ways to have line tiwsts: be a static line jumper
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I had Yesterday !
My 5º jump !
Oh no. How did it go?
Well , I’m writing 😜.
But to tell you the truth it was easy. I remembered immediately what my teacher told me.
Spread the line and kick the knee.
I can't take my eyes off those eyebrows 🤣
on my first IAD jump I had line twists from an unstable exit where my main deployed while I was upside down. I reached up, grabbed the risers and kicked in the opposite direction of my line twists.
Good job for your first IAD. Where did you do it?
@@SkydiveVibesThank you, my instructors taught me well so i was comfortable and knew what to do. Next time it happens i want to try the method you described in the video. I learned at ultimate skydiving adventures in Delta Colorado from Ben Lowe.
Where u come from?
Why has this girl stopped posting. ?
Okay I'm 16 and I wanna skydive until i can't no more and YT keeps recommending me these chutes malfunctions then double malfunctions and stuff tbh that makes me wanna do it more LMAO
My general safety tip for avoiding line twists is to go to the pub instead.
Well, that's it. I'm never going skydiving.
“The next time it happens” 💀
I dont know why am I watching this, I only know T-Bag
Skip to 1:00 that's when the advice starts.
I had a rough a line twist on my 5th jump and first solo exist which turned to a acrobatic uncontrolled jump , I lost control and I could not see my instructor and lost my altitude check . I had time to try to fix my position but I felt that I lost a complete control and I had to open my parachute around 7000feets with full line twist that I was able to fix it on my third try and landed safely.
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Any Airborne troop or anyone who has ever been through a static line course has had this happen. It was never a big deal.
If this happened to you during an AFF course, go find the person who packed your rig and let them have it! If you packed it yourself, you need some remedial training!
I hate every time you say " THAT BEING SAID", you keep saying that crap.
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Ha! An unnecessarily rude comment met with a polite and gracious response. Kudos to you, Catherine. 🙂
@@MrReasonabubble I don't really care what you think, I said what a feel.
You must be one of those people who bow down to women, agree on everything they say, grow up and stop using emojis like a little kid.
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