Making a 2 Piece Vise For The Milling Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- G'day everyonem
In this video I will be making a 2 piece vise for the milling machine. I have an upcoming project where I will be machining a big 300x 150 x 50 piece of steel and the current vise will not be big enough. Clamps will not be enough, and since I have a space piece of that bar stock on hand I decided to make a 2 piece vise.
A 2 piece vise is not something that is new to me, I have made 2 of them previously, but they both suffered from a small amount of jaw lift, which really freaked me out. I have made a few changes to that old design to hopefully reduce that from happening. This project was quite a long one to make, went through a lot of coolant and took the life out of several endmills. I hope you enjoy the video.
#machining #millingmachine #visebuild
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction and Design
4:12 - Cleaning Up The Stock
6:10 - Machining The Top Part Of The Moving Jaw
11:34 - Machining The Lower Part Of The Moving Jaw
16:04 - Machining The Locking Balls
17:54 - Machining The Fixed Jaw
19:46 - First Assembly
20:35 - Making The Soft Jaws
21:49 - Final Assembly and Test
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Instead of using the hacksaw, I think ThisOldTony had a Kung Fu chopsaw which might be worth mastering?
This is a different guy youre talking about
That Kung fu chop is obviously fake, everyone knows that.
But he could use that WD-40 method with the hair dryer.
@@smashyrashyoh dude 🙄
@@MrMACProgrammer 😂
As TOT says: It's all in the hips.
Always love to see the hacksaw
I like your design more than ToT's for the downforce angle screw. Very nice improvement. Um.... What about a couple of slightly oversize holes on the movable upper jaw to permit installing and tightening the hold down bolts for the base part? Or would it allow too many chips to get into the works? Plugs perhaps? I'm thinking that it would permit you to square up and not touch the fixed end which is the one that should be setting the squareness since little though it might be the movable jaw can "float" and end up out of square.
Seems like an interesting idea
any reason why you used the ball nose mill at 10:50 before drilling to depth? i would think drilling first would put less force on the end mill and reduce the chatter
Was just about to make the exact same comment. I would have thought using the drill all the way through would have made it way easier for the ball nose to grab, especially where it is nearly cutting parallel to face.
Dunno. I think I was just more focused on getting the dimple cut and forgot that it needed a 12mm hole.
@@artisanmakes that happens.
It's so inspiring to see what can be done with so little. Great work!
that's acually what i find very funny in so many people"oh you cant do shit whit small chinese-machines,you need to spend atleast 15.000€ to get a decent lathe and mill"-i guess those people have never tried
@@hedning003pictures/videos often cheat. Of course Chinese stuff work for a certain level. But often lack accuracy and finish. Both on machines and parts. But I think it's all down to expectations and experience.
@@OmeMachining i beg to differ,at work i use a big colechester lathe and a maho mill amongst others,at home i have an rf31-mill an a Chinese benchlathe,whit some modifications and pretty cheap upgrades,it is quite possible to get good results whit them aswell- i would not do 8hour/day-jobs in them,but putting out precision parts whit nice finnich is absolutely doable-but surely i would like to have that colechester at home instead of my 1500€ Chinese lathe
I bought a Milwaukee portable band saw and attached it to a pre made mini bench. life changing, really and does not eat into my work space and its portable! take care.
Yep, saw Adam Savage using a Dewalt. Checked the Tool shop Milwaukee or Makita. A few other yt maker chs use them too. Done my fair bit of manual hacksawing and feel it every time I see him doing it.
Its really awesome to see the quality of your projects increase as time goes on. This is one beautiful vice that im sure will see plenty of use in its lifetime. Thank you for sharing, huge respect to you.
2:17 thats a maker warrior moment, Amazing Job Man
I made a set of the ThisOldTony vise and I was very surprised by how well the work for oversized material like this. Great video as always, thank you for uploading!! 👍👍
I like that you make so many of your tools, gives me ideas for when I need to take on large parts in my small tools.
I see you've been watching the same videos as me lol. I like how your design combines the best of both designs. Absolutely brilliant. As long as the machine has enough tightness in the table that your part doesn't come out wonky.
You've probably thought about it but you should really get a bandsaw, I don't have a lathe or mill but I did pick up a harbor freight drill press and bandsaw and they both are worth their weight in gold for making a lot of holes and cutting a lot of stock.
Great video. I made a crude version using heavy angle iron and applied the clamping pressure with two bolts running in nested nuts that get pushed back into the fixed jaw as the pressure is applied. The moving jaw is just a plate of steel.
For your design I would have been tempted to drill out the stock with a pattern of holes to save life on the milling cutters.
Great watching your projects.
I can absolutely recommend a Makita 18v portable bandsaw. Works for me. I love it
The Milwaukee M18 Deep Cut bandsaw is a portable bandsaw - but for men.
LOL
A nice complement to the milling machine!
Your(not so) little milling machine is certainly getting a great workout.
Excellent work. Very impressive!! I'm sure T.O.T. would absolutely approve and appreciate your design...awesome!!
Well done and, yes, the Haiku chopsaw is pretty slick !
On today's episode of "Artisan Makes Refuses to Buy a Metal Cutting Bandsaw".....
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He's got an Australian powered hacksaw already, no need
@@procyonia3654 OH!!!! SNAP Good one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
for real.
Bravo, very nice build, will be glad to see it in action.
Great work and you created a beautiful piece. When your budget allows for it, I would recommend a power bandsaw. If not a free-standing unit with an arm maybe a portable bandsaw mounded to the wall. They can really cut down on the arm work when hacking pieces off of larger parts. I look forward to future projects and thanks for posting.
Brilliant, thanks
Great Idea and Nice Work. Thanks for Showing
Great build, thanks for sharing
Cheers
Excellent!
That a big project, need a tool make a tool, great work! Thanks for sharing.
Well done
That's a beautiful new vise! Tony would be proud
Very nice!
A set of cheap HSS aliexpress counterbore cutters would be a great investment, I use mine all the time
Brother, you are in need of a bandsaw! Great video by the way! Thank you!
I also plan to copy ThisOldTony's vice when i find a block of metal big enough.
Very cool design 👌
The new table vise looks good. Await to see how it performs.
love that ball turner :)
Looking forward to the big 8 inch fly cutter build!!!
Very nice work.
Nice work !
Very good!
nice work! 👍
Nice, I am looking forward to your take on a large fly cutter, enjoyed, cheers!
Very nice.
What a great build. I just got a mini mill and this was an issue i came into.
fancy lathe and mill, but no band saw. probably the most used tool in my shop. great investment. super useful for cutting thick stuff like the stock for this vise. great work though. love your vids.
nice job !
cheers ben.
Great job the mill seems to be working really well.👍👍👍👍👍
Nice little vise. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Nice work as always 👍👍
Nice work mate!
Amazing work. Again :)
Cool 👍
Good job 👍
This Old Tony would love to see this art! You're his successor! Change my mind!
Nice vice!
They are expensive, but, I highly recommend the Makita portable bandsaw and the Procut table. This combo is ~$1K, but well worth it in a little shop.
Damn that's a nice vise.
7 months on, and still the best 2 Piece Vise on the Tube. I want one.
2:48 That's why I bought 230mm angle grinder :P
Nice vid, a clever design well executed.
Thank you! Cheers!
We need to chip in a few bucks and get this man a bandsaw.
We talked about this before. The hacksaw is his shtick. He is in Aussie land. Damn dollar is the shits compared to some other countries. Everything is so damn expensive. He should prostitute himself to Vevor
5:50 loved the "This Old Tony" reference 😂😁
Love your content bud got myself a seig 2.7l just like yourself. Cant find a two piece vice to fit to save my life so will make my own.
I like it 👌
Fun one :)
Ball turning using the boring head is genius. I’m definitely copying that!
It’s a good little design. Got way more use from it than I ever imagined
Really inpressive parts you manage to wring out of these machines!
I went way too cheap on my mill vice, and i am now a citizen of jaw lift ville.
It's all relative. My cheap ass vice is still 1000% better than trying to hold it by hand...
@@DodgyBrothersEngineeringha, yes that's also true :)
Bloody hell, it really is time you got a saw!
Yay another video
ohh man what a tease
So, when's the bandsaw coming? :D
Joke aside, you should really look into it, a proper bandsaw is really worth it, especially since your machines can tackle the chunky stock now. A sawblade is also way more efficient at cutting than a grinding disk.
Oh, and on the split I built for my CNC router I had 3 parts, all with boltholes to clamp them down on the t-slots. First you'd tighten the fixed jaw and the screw block for the moving jaw and after clamping the workpiece you'd tighten the moving jaw to the table as well, as a way to avoid jaw lift.
Also I recommend making holes into your movable jaw through which you can tighten the bolts to the table without having to take it apart every time
Great video have you thought about machining some slots in the top of the moving jaw to get to the bolts that hold it down to the table easier
Bicycle wheel fly cutter inbound.
Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦 PS it is painful watching you hacksaw chunks of metal😭😭😭😭
when encountering chatter sometimes its a good idea to lower the rpm way down. Especially when doing those high engagement cuts like with the big ball endmill.
I would have run it at 300 RPM maybe even less
Have you thought of adding key slots and removable keys to the base so it mounts square all the time?
A nice looking job. I was surprised you did not section out the first piece with the angle cut off wheel. It would have given a reusable slab. I don't think putting a tee slot bottom would guarantee alignment. The slot sides are not machined, so are irregular.
Building a cut off saw would make a great video!
built a similar one ,the solution i came up with is a 15 degree sloped dove tail to combat jaw lift
With the upgrades to the mill and it now being pushed more than it was when new, do you think a spindle bearing upgrade is on the cards 👍
Great stuff as usual! Any chance for a shop tour video? I noticed that your shop is pretty small in youtube machinist terms (I'm moving into a 2m x 3.6m shop soon...), so I thought it might be interesting to see how you get everything you need in a small space. Cheers!
Maybe one day
The little hacksaw that could
Now you need to fit a couple of pieces of key stock the the bottom that are a slip fit into the t-slots. Never have to indicate them square to the table again. Fit them to your regular vice too.
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MUCH longer and thicker clamping plate under the moving jaw of that drill vise and extending as far forward as you have room for with the vise closed empty will make it a lot more rigid and lessen jaw lifting/tilting a lot..
Nice work as always. Do you think the locking ball will work over time? I´m afraid that ,after some use, it will not "bite" anymore... It might need some sort of key, maybe just a pin and a slot...
With the amount of use that this vise will get I personally am not too concerned with it causing an issue. I have about 5 or 6 big parts to machine in the near future. I think it would take a bit of use for it to be a cause for concern, it indeed that bite wears down. Cheers
Love the videos. Where are you getting the huge chunks of metal? Where I'm at buying those pieces would cost hundreds of dollars.
You're really doing some nice work. Thanks for the video.
continually amazed you don't have a bandsaw, even a portaband
the timing, lmao
now i 100% need to do one of these for the robot faceplate i'll be getting material for on tuesday
baseplate*
Someone buy this man a horizontal bandsaw.
First time viewer and love the video. A quick comment on other options you thought about before choosing the process would be perfect.
Milling the large chunks @18:00. Did you think of other options like drilling a chain of holes to reduce the amount of material to remove with the cutter? Your thoughts on the options and why you chose the one you did could help us newbies. Thanks.
Might work. I think ive done that before when I first got the mill but I dint think it saves a huge amount of time. I only tend to do this when I need to machine long slots that go through the part
@@artisanmakes Or... do not cut that at all.
Just leave it as solid block (added rigidity as bonus), and counterbore for bolts that will clamp it to the table.
Sand paper folded in half inbetween the jaws and part can make it useful again the little mill vice
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2:43 should have paid This Old Tony to come and do his notorious 1 Inch Punch. He'd whack that stuff out in seconds.
Instead of using aluiminium inserts for steel I recommend you to try DCGT inserts for steel. These are sharp and leave a nice finish.
Those are DCGT inserts I was using. They’re just sold as for aluminium on the pack
Do you have some drawings for this project? Also, when using a ball end mill to make a spherical depression, Opening the bore up to final dimension will reduce the loads on that poor end mill.
Hi. On this vise you can bolt jaws outside and put the work piece on top of movable jaw. 🙂
Never mind. ☺
A lot of your chatter comes from your high rpm. When you start getting a lot of chatter try slowing the rpms down a bit. Also, roughing endmills will hold up a lot longer with lower rpms even while removing a large percentage of the diameter of the tool. Hope this helps
Yeah cheers but this mill has little torque at low rpm so you have to run it a little higher to get the greater efficiency from the motor
Have you heard of using a carbide tipped circular wood saw blade on the mill to cut metal? These blades are cheap, since you have the bigger motor and lead in the mill it is worth considering. I have used them on a bridgeport clone, it does work. I now forget where I got this information, it is cheaper than slitting saws, the other advantage you end up with small bits of metal left over - rather than a lot of swarf on the floor...
Nice build, man. You must have made kilos of chips on this one.
Certainly a bin full of them