To add a some small more nich bits of info. For starters idk if i missed it but reload the magazine fed weapons like the 1911, deagles and AF2011s is much better when the mags are empty the reload is like twice as fast as reloading when there is still ammo left so its worth burning a couple of rounds to get that faster reload if you need it. especially when combined with reload cancelling this really lets you go HAM in zed time on large zeds. The opposite goes for the winchester and SPX - you reload these faster if you reload early since the 1st round you load you put directly into the chamber which is much slower than the follwing rounds. The AF's recoil isnt liked much because there is horizontal spread when all the other pistols only have vertical spread which makes them much more predictable and puts a lot of people off of the AF2011's. In addition because of the high knockdown power means if you miss 2 shots on a scrake - hitting the body - you will knock him down and not kill him which if you dont spot it can surprise you or your team when he gets back up. Also because they fire 2 seperate bullets you cant pop rioters through their head armor. All of this combined makes them just not feel as good as the other pistols, With that said i really like the AF's for boss waves because that knock down is actually useful when combined with the stumble power you can keep bosses like abomination and hans and patty trapped and stun locked. Also it does make a good economic side arm at 750 but if you can afford it the single T4 1911 better than the AF2011 but its much more expensive (325+600+700). This leaves you 12kg prolly for for 2 pairs of T4 pistols or a T4 pistol and an upgraded SPX. With that said this is a very comprehensive guide well done it was fun palying with you ^_^
@@47RoninGamingfair enough - one of my favourite things about the GS has always been that there have always been a lot of different builds and since you can still do the no upgrade builds you have very cheap end game loadouts.
Good comment. My way of using the AF 2011 is just never aiming. Literally never aiming. When you have the quickdraw perk theres barely any recoil. So get a feel for how close you have to be to consintlenty hit you target in the head while hip firing. Do that and they're god tier. Fucken love that gun.
Not sure if anyone else stated this or not but another good habit to get into when playing gunslinger is reloading just before zedtime ends, takes some practice but it’s well worth it considering it reloads basically instantly.
exactly why i was confused as to why he'd say to return it... truth be told I've had my share of sellers, even when i try to set an example and toss all my money and guns away before leaving if i have to leave mid match.
This perk in a nutshell in my opinion, is basically Sharpshooter, but actually fun to use, easier to master and can effectively kill trash aside from Big Zeds, the latter which the Sharpshooter is only good at. It's no wonder Sharpshooter is the least-played perk in the game.
Is it really? I thought both were just as important since sharps are the best at starting zedtime. It would be sad indeed if they were underused/underrated
And that's because Tripwire took the SS from KF1 and split it in two different perks in KF2: SS and GS. The cool thing about KF1 SS is that you could carry a Xbow with dual Handcannons (Deagles) and deal with trash while being able to stun/decap Scrakes and decap FP's. In KF2 the GS does both, the SS only big zeds. To balance this they should've done more gun options for SS but they just let it go.
Also the fact damage bonus only applies to headshot is kinda bullshit. Other perks can do these 25% just fine, but SS is just FORCED to do headshots, otherwise it can't deal shit unless you have 10 lvl sitting perk.
M1911 has a 40% damage boost for one upgrade with no weight gain, making it probably one of the second valuable upgrades in the game. (best is HMT101 with 69% damage boost and no weight gain)
The percentage may be high, but the thing that matters is the actual damage number increased by the upgrade. If a weapon has a very low base damage, each percent is much, much less valuable.
the 1858 are similar they get a 60% damage bonus (looks like this is changing on the beta though) for no weight increase and since they start with the same base damage as the 1911 the 1858's end up being stronger for large zeds than the 1911.
@@leoqu4129 dual pistols all weigh the same at the same tiers, T3 1858 weigh the same as the T3 1911 both weighing 4kg for the pair (T4 dual pistols weighing 6kg and T5 weighing 8kg) only the 1858 get a bigger multiplier and therefore do more damage. The trade-off is they have worse reloads.
When putting in a T3 level, 1858 begin to be overshadowed by the Deagle by a bigger ZED killer perspective, while also lack ammo efficacy and penetration compare to 1911
You gotta appreciate the depth in this game. Buying this game I thought it was just gonna be a simple chill game. But it's actually does have some depth and goddamn it's fun to play gunslinger as well :D
I recently found your video and I really appreciate the information you gave to gunslinger Perk users (like myself) to have a better understanding on how to play gunslinger with a team
Of course is the best perk. It allows you to wield and take full advantage of two fucking Desert Eagles .50 AE I hope in the future see some kind of automatic handgun in the future, like an automatic Glock 17 with extended mag. It could glorious to spray against that zeds Xd
Dude! Thatd be dope as fuck. I also have an idea. Shotgun revolver :). I know a handgun that fires buckshot but dont remember the name if it. Dual shotgun revolvers does sound pretty dope though.
Thank u for making this video on my favorite perk in KF2 man and this will help me much more now considering that I prestiged my gunslinger perk recently. And the weapons that I use mostly for the slinger is the desert eagle the M1911 and 500. Magnum but I'll check on the loadouts you mentioned and see witch one works the best for me. And again thank you for making a video on the gunslinger.
Fantastic video Richard. Well worth the wait. I love your editing style and insightful analysis of the game mechanics combined with your sense of humor.
So after watching this I did the exact opposite of what you said and I had A BLAST!!! All right tree is so damn powerful. Seriously try the following - Focus on shooting the limbs and torso (so avoid headshots). - No iron sights. The Quickdraw skill makes iron sights unnessecary. Just shoot from the hip at center mass or at the legs (which are much easier to hit than the head). Also shooting at a bigger target (the body not the head) makes the high recoil of your weapons largely irrelevant allowing you to get off way more shots all of which could do up to 50% more damage and also have a high chance to stumble or stun. - Use the AF-2011s, HX25, 1858 Revolvers, Spitfires, M1911 and 9mms. These guns are really good with right skill tree. Especially the AF-2011s, HX25 and Spitfires. Spitfires not only stumble and knockdown zeds with this perk but they also cause fire panic and the HX25 already has a really high chance to cause stumble/knockdown even without skills factored in. AF-2011s and especially the HX25 each fire multiple projectiles at a time, all of which benefit from the Bonebreaker and Knock 'em Down skills. - The ability to cause an unending chain of stumbles and knockdowns on even Scrakes and Fleshpounds, your high movement speed (especially when compared to stumbling and knocked down zeds) and the Speedloader skill will make it nearly impossible for zeds to touch you, even when you are reloading. This removes the Gunslingers biggest weaknesses (long reloads). - The 20% damage to perk weapons and 30% limb damage from the Bonebreaker skill STACK, so hitting a zed in a limb does 20% damage to the torso and 50% MORE DAMAGE TO LIMBS. And some enemies like fleshpounds and patriarch have critical hit spots on their torsos/limbs. - Right skill tree is also really good against Abomination boss fights. AF-2011s stop the fast moving slime minions dead in their tracks and shred them to pieces. AF-2011s can also take out the slime landmines in a single hit. Its also damn near impossible to miss Abomination with the HX25. Give it a try.
It's good and i use the AFs with the right skill tree because i'm not good enough, but if you're skilled you will do more damage with rack em up in the head, since headshots do twice the damage with no boosts, + rack em up at 5x will do much, much more damage than shooting at limbs or torso with bone breaker, although bone breaker IS more forgiving and far easier to use, and lets you train to be better by still shooting at the head with a 20% bonus (2 rack em up) while still allowing you to do more damage if you miss the head and hit something else instead. Bone breaker isn't as ammo efficient as rack em up if you are skilled enough since you do more damage. But it is good to let people know there are other ways to play it. I'd say the right skill tree is much better and far more manageable for most people to play, since it's easier to have better results if you're an average player anyway (which is most people). The bit about the HX25 is quite interesting though, it may be worth to try it out. I'm not sure about how ammo efficient this is in a 6 player hell on earth match, but it's probably a lot of fun anyway, and this game is all about it after all.
Dang I don't have gunslinger up to 25 yet, didn't know it was THIS good. Great guide as always, though I'm surprised you didn't mention that the AF's actually exist which is mind blowing.
On the Zed Time perk bonus, I do like Whirlwind perk over the Fan Fire. I dunno, getting Zed Time just as you're about to reload, I like the fact that you're able to continue shooting like no problem before you Zed Time. Not to mention you can reload just before Zed Time ends and do a super fast reload and ready to shoot right after so. Also who doesn't like constantly firing from Movies and such towards zeds?
One very useful tip you didnt mention is by inserting the mags of the pistol, you can bash to cancel the reload animation. This is extremely useful because not only does it make the reload very fast, it also allow you to bash the zeds in your face.
The 1858s can carry you all the way to round 10 if you also upgrade them to atleast tier 4, and keep all zeds at bay, if you can also conserve armor consumption you can have the most dosh and then sell them for more (possibly over 5000 dosh if you sell them then switch to the deagles)
This is the coolest class in KF2 and therefore *objectively* the best class. Sorry support and medic mains. I don't make the rules, I just remind everyone about them.
I am a medic main and I agree with you. A good GS can mean the difference between a wipe or a victory. As a med, I have met many GS players even on HoE who hold off on their own and almost never need the healing buffs or healing itself allowing me to focus on the more slow perks like Support or Demo. Plus, they pretty much annihilate any big zed on their own. Good GSs are rare but such a welcome addition to any squad.
If you want the numbers, go to the kf reddit and look for the big ole doc of everything in the sidebar. The big ole doc has all the upgrade multipliers, multiply the base damage by the multiplier (always use the base damage of the weapon, i.e. T4 damage = base damage x T4 multiplier and T5 = base damage x T5 multiplier) then round down to the nearest whole number. As for which upgrades actually matter/are impactful, it depends on the weapon.
I always play the same gunslinger build. Max upgraded lever action rifle and ONE starting revolver. And always be sure to equip the oversized cowboy hat.
Funslinger is just broken, hands down, and props to the upgraded medic pistol. I'd just like to add that there can be a *Poor Man's build* which is just: -SPX -1911 I've been able to consistently go up to wave 7 on 6-man public HoE with just that and then cash out for a full build w/ no upgrades.
I used to think the Gunslinger wasn't good back when I first started out. Seeing the low magazine, slow reloads, and low max ammo really put me off. I never really played it until I got Golden Deagles from a box and was like, "Fuck it, I'll try the perk out again.". Once you get Speedloader and Skullcraker the Gunslinger is just a monster that can basically do anything. Now it's been a year since that and to this day I am still a Gunslinger main. Not trying to show off I got Golden Deagles but that is literally how I gave Gunslinger a chance and started playing it and eventually mained it. If it wasn't for that skin I still would have probably kept it at level 7.
My loadout for the Gunslinger is this: Weapons: 1858 Revolvers (Dual, Upgraded 3 times) 500 Magnum (Dual, Upgraded once) HMTech 101 Pistol (Upgraded once) And skills: LVL5 Quick Draw LVL10 Bone Breaker LVL15 Speedloader LVL20 Knock Em Down LVL25 Whirlwind of Lead My reasons behind this loadout is that body damage skills over headshot skills are because there are multiple Zeds that are highly about body take downs like Rioters to their legs and EDARs for shooting them in the chest for the EMP blast. Crawlers are hard to headshot, Stalkers too. And for Fleshpounds they have their chest plate. Also I play on console, so body shots are easier. I chose to use the revolver weapons because of the nerf to reloading case ammunition guns like the Deagles. Also this loadout is easy on money for me and I love revolvers.
You're aware that Magnums and upgraded 1858s will one shot Rioters? I play on pad, too, its no excuse not to go for headshots. You cant kill a FP fast when shooting it in the chest.
@@Combine96 Do you get up to 50% bonus damage when shooting it? No. Besides, the head has ~1600 HP, the body has over 5000. You need around 3 times more shots if you shoot the chest instead of the head. In other words, chest gives 110% damage, headshots over 300%. Its not comparable. Solo its maybe alright to body shot them, vs a 6P SUI/HOE pounder you're toast.
Out of curiousity, why do you pick the Dual Desert Eagles over the Dual Magnums for the balanced build? I find that I am more consistent with the magnums, but I don't really do high level play the farthest I've been on Endless Suicidal difficulty is wave 15 solo. So wondering if there's a higher level of play advantage with the Deagles.
Would have liked to have got your take on the 9mm pistols for this build, if it's worth to get dual or upgrade them at all. I think it's also worth considering that the spitfires provide an excellent support weapon for taking on trash and have a pretty generous ammo amount for the low weight usage, so can be worth spamming down range and running off.
I didn’t think the fully upgraded Desert Eagles were actually stronger than the .500 Magnums upgraded. That’s kinda weird. I’m mainly running gunslinger cause handguns are usually my go to in video games. Anyone on PS4 down to play?
The glock 18 seems like a really nice weapon now a days to use as your main gun. Duel wielding and single use is great. I personally like them better than DE because I can spray when need be and be okay and the glock is good against flesh and scrakes. Tho if you want to take big enemies out better you need lvl 10 benefit of the 5x damage of a headshot just because of the sheer amount of ammo it fires at once. Level 20 gunslinger with dual glocks is just about over powered on hard difficulty/solo. But if not used to it’s best abilities it’s a good weapon at Best but not op just because you could run out of ammo mid round if not handled properly. If they ever nerf anything about this gun it should only be damage. If they mess with fire rate or amount of ammo in clip or reserve it will take the fun out of the guns. But I don’t think they need a nerf simply because they haven’t touched the desert eagles.
Blegh I was hoping the Deagles wouldn't be the most optimal choice. I personally think they're incredibly ugly. Sticking with the 500's. My team can suck it.
AF2011>Deagle tbh. Has the ability to get two Rack' Em Up points, has more damage and "2" more bullets. Only disadvantage is you have a chance of one bullet missing and the weight.
I reply here for the comment in the last poll section (YT don't let me to reply to you sorry) : As an old fan of the channel I think it's time for me to make some criticism (only for KF2, the other games do not interest me and I'm not an expert) I think it's wrong, in my opinion, the approach to the perk guides that you have in recent videos. Let me explain: after 600 hours of play on KF2 I think I can give my opinion on my favorite game. First of all: KF2 is not a schematic game, it is a real survival, for this reason I would like to say that it is wrong to say in videos that some weapons are useless and certain perk skills are useless. This is not absolutely true. All weapons have a reason to exist within the game and all perk skills are useful, none must be ignored. There is nothing more wrong than what you wrote in the latest gunslinger video, as you were talking about the perk skill tree: "The only way to play with the gunslinger". Or when you have considered useless weapons like the trenchgun of the firebug, which is instead a very useful weapon to compensate for the ineffectiveness of the other weapons of the perk against certain zeds. A schematic approach to this game could be used only if you have a perfectly tuned team and where all the players are coordinated and very experienced, but this almost never happens, most of the time you play with random players . Thanks for the attention Richard , keep up the good work.
If you fully upgrade em dual wielded you can only take duel wield Deagles with em. Honestly for me HOE solo the single Glock is much better for trash than any other gun available to the gun slinger and it give you plenty of ammo to last the round and then use the Deagles on flesh pounds and Scrakes. The Glock is more than capable of ah doing them too but you many not have enough ammo to finish out the round if you use it for fleshpounds and scrakes. I don’t buy dual glocks until boss round. With dual wielded the already bad recoils becomes worse and you lose the fast reload speed. I buy both durning the boss rounds as both shreds the boa and the recoil doesn’t matter as much because the boss has a huge hit box compared to trash. That’s how I use em. This way of playing though kinda goes against how you’re suppose to play gunslinger
I run bone breaker because the extra 20% overall is still decent if you don't care to aim for the head on lester zeds, especially if you use a mid tier weapon. As good as I am at aiming for the head with this perk, I dont like the fact you need to keep rack em up sustained.
Love the no upgrade. Honestly I go duel 500s for my main and trash clean up, with the Deagels in my pockets of the shit hits the fan. I just think the 500s is just a fun gun to play with, more so than the deags.
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To add a some small more nich bits of info.
For starters idk if i missed it but reload the magazine fed weapons like the 1911, deagles and AF2011s is much better when the mags are empty the reload is like twice as fast as reloading when there is still ammo left so its worth burning a couple of rounds to get that faster reload if you need it. especially when combined with reload cancelling this really lets you go HAM in zed time on large zeds.
The opposite goes for the winchester and SPX - you reload these faster if you reload early since the 1st round you load you put directly into the chamber which is much slower than the follwing rounds.
The AF's recoil isnt liked much because there is horizontal spread when all the other pistols only have vertical spread which makes them much more predictable and puts a lot of people off of the AF2011's.
In addition because of the high knockdown power means if you miss 2 shots on a scrake - hitting the body - you will knock him down and not kill him which if you dont spot it can surprise you or your team when he gets back up.
Also because they fire 2 seperate bullets you cant pop rioters through their head armor.
All of this combined makes them just not feel as good as the other pistols,
With that said i really like the AF's for boss waves because that knock down is actually useful when combined with the stumble power you can keep bosses like abomination and hans and patty trapped and stun locked.
Also it does make a good economic side arm at 750 but if you can afford it the single T4 1911 better than the AF2011 but its much more expensive (325+600+700). This leaves you 12kg prolly for for 2 pairs of T4 pistols or a T4 pistol and an upgraded SPX.
With that said this is a very comprehensive guide well done it was fun palying with you ^_^
The only reason I stay away from them is just the price alone.
@@47RoninGamingfair enough - one of my favourite things about the GS has always been that there have always been a lot of different builds and since you can still do the no upgrade builds you have very cheap end game loadouts.
@@drunkbunny94 my apolgies was referring to the AD's Gs is my go to for public lobby
Good comment. My way of using the AF 2011 is just never aiming. Literally never aiming. When you have the quickdraw perk theres barely any recoil. So get a feel for how close you have to be to consintlenty hit you target in the head while hip firing. Do that and they're god tier. Fucken love that gun.
I'm just too spoiled by the amount of bullets of the AF lol
Pro tip- if you spin the 500s every second you have them equipped you litterally can't die
whatever you say Revolver Ocelot!
this gun
is the best gun
everrr
@@ghoulbuster1 This is the best handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. SIX BULLETS. More than enough to kill anything that moves!
Wait you can hold them without spinning them constantly?
Not sure if anyone else stated this or not but another good habit to get into when playing gunslinger is reloading just before zedtime ends, takes some practice but it’s well worth it considering it reloads basically instantly.
Yes I've been using this trick too
Yep the animation is so fast when that happens
''Or until the original owner respawns''
*_Laughs in public lobby_*
FeelsBadMan
40 hours into the game and i've never had anyone not returning my weapon after i respawn, i just have to ask for it.
We're talking about the lever-action rifle here, though. The original owner is going to respawn with one anyways. :P
exactly why i was confused as to why he'd say to return it...
truth be told I've had my share of sellers, even when i try to set an example and toss all my money and guns away before leaving if i have to leave mid match.
What if its upgraded?
First time playing this game, gunslinger was my first choice *Anyway i just started blasting*
Danni devito reference
Bro I got the game just so I can make that reference with my friends😂
"If fashion could kill then the gunslinger would be the nuclear option"
Hey, past me. Niceu quote.
watertower500 :D
Hey man, nice quote!
Hey nice, man quote
Hey man quote, nice.
@@watertower500d6 Hey quote, nice man
This perk in a nutshell in my opinion, is basically Sharpshooter, but actually fun to use, easier to master and can effectively kill trash aside from Big Zeds, the latter which the Sharpshooter is only good at.
It's no wonder Sharpshooter is the least-played perk in the game.
Is it really? I thought both were just as important since sharps are the best at starting zedtime. It would be sad indeed if they were underused/underrated
And that's because Tripwire took the SS from KF1 and split it in two different perks in KF2: SS and GS. The cool thing about KF1 SS is that you could carry a Xbow with dual Handcannons (Deagles) and deal with trash while being able to stun/decap Scrakes and decap FP's. In KF2 the GS does both, the SS only big zeds. To balance this they should've done more gun options for SS but they just let it go.
Also the fact damage bonus only applies to headshot is kinda bullshit. Other perks can do these 25% just fine, but SS is just FORCED to do headshots, otherwise it can't deal shit unless you have 10 lvl sitting perk.
@@hrqsilv Man, I miss killing floor 1 sharpshooter so much
0:26 I like how his fleshpound friend moves away his dead brother and takes his place
Great vid as always but you forgot to mention one of the best features of 'slinger, ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF STYLE
M1911 has a 40% damage boost for one upgrade with no weight gain, making it probably one of the second valuable upgrades in the game. (best is HMT101 with 69% damage boost and no weight gain)
The percentage may be high, but the thing that matters is the actual damage number increased by the upgrade. If a weapon has a very low base damage, each percent is much, much less valuable.
the 1858 are similar they get a 60% damage bonus (looks like this is changing on the beta though) for no weight increase and since they start with the same base damage as the 1911 the 1858's end up being stronger for large zeds than the 1911.
1858 only have 20% damage gain for one upgrade.
@@leoqu4129 dual pistols all weigh the same at the same tiers, T3 1858 weigh the same as the T3 1911 both weighing 4kg for the pair (T4 dual pistols weighing 6kg and T5 weighing 8kg) only the 1858 get a bigger multiplier and therefore do more damage. The trade-off is they have worse reloads.
When putting in a T3 level, 1858 begin to be overshadowed by the Deagle by a bigger ZED killer perspective, while also lack ammo efficacy and penetration compare to 1911
Top tip for all classes if you are at the front of a lane crouch if it's safe to do so, the sharpie at the back will love you.
You gotta appreciate the depth in this game. Buying this game I thought it was just gonna be a simple chill game. But it's actually does have some depth and goddamn it's fun to play gunslinger as well :D
9:53 Oh hi, West London! Best KF1 map, hands down
What about Biotics Lab (kf1 ver.) :'c
The 1858s feel amazing with the America skin on them.
Iv got one
Yeah I bought one for like 5 cents
I recently found your video and I really appreciate the information you gave to gunslinger Perk users (like myself) to have a better understanding on how to play gunslinger with a team
"I love to reload during a battle! There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet, into a well greased hole!"
If the m1911 is so great, why isn't there an m1912?
Because their is no such thing as a better m1911
@@Unknown-rh9nl the beretta 92
@@mumbles2840 if that's so good why isn't there a Beretta 92 2
@@PantsMasterPlays if you want to be technical the m9's are the beretta's
......there is..........
Really love how clear and concise these guides are. Well done, friend.
Of course is the best perk. It allows you to wield and take full advantage of two fucking Desert Eagles .50 AE
I hope in the future see some kind of automatic handgun in the future, like an automatic Glock 17 with extended mag. It could glorious to spray against that zeds Xd
Or maybe a Glock 18c with an extended mag that has full auto capability, it would feel like playing SWAT ;D
Dude! Thatd be dope as fuck. I also have an idea. Shotgun revolver :). I know a handgun that fires buckshot but dont remember the name if it. Dual shotgun revolvers does sound pretty dope though.
Hoo boy, do I have some great news for y’all in this comment thread.
Your wish is granted.
@@birgir3399 Not your wish though. For some reason, the HRG Buckshot isn't crossperk, and it makes me sad. :(
Thank u for making this video on my favorite perk in KF2 man and this will help me much more now considering that I prestiged my gunslinger perk recently. And the weapons that I use mostly for the slinger is the desert eagle the M1911 and 500. Magnum but I'll check on the loadouts you mentioned and see witch one works the best for me. And again thank you for making a video on the gunslinger.
Not really a joke comment or anything, just wanna say I love your content, it’s really high in production value and I really enjoy it!
I can see you had just as much fun making it as i had watching it
Keep up the good work!
Best Perk, but I can't hit the side of the barn, so thats why i'm playing support AA-12 MedicShottie.
Ironically i became a Lot better After Player gunslinger for extended periods of Time xD
Finally one on my fav perk :3
Everytime you drop one of these it make my day
Thanks for the awesome video!
Nice video as always, Richard
Hey Richard! I just wanted to say(again) i love your vids!
Something to note is that starting a reload in zed time will continue the sped up reload in real time
Probably the best perk for boss rounds. I remember clutching a king flesh pound as lvl 25 thanks to the headshot slowdown perk.
Fantastic video Richard. Well worth the wait. I love your editing style and insightful analysis of the game mechanics combined with your sense of humor.
Yet another awesome videos thanks!!
So after watching this I did the exact opposite of
what you said and I had A BLAST!!! All right tree is so damn powerful.
Seriously try the following
- Focus on shooting the limbs and torso (so avoid
headshots).
- No iron sights. The Quickdraw skill makes iron sights unnessecary. Just shoot from the hip at center mass or at
the legs (which are much easier to hit than the
head). Also shooting at a bigger target (the body not the head) makes the high
recoil of your weapons largely irrelevant allowing you to get off way more shots all of which could do up to 50% more damage and also have a high chance to stumble or stun.
- Use the AF-2011s, HX25, 1858 Revolvers, Spitfires, M1911 and 9mms. These guns are really good with right skill tree. Especially the AF-2011s, HX25 and Spitfires. Spitfires not only
stumble and knockdown zeds with this perk but they also cause fire panic and the HX25 already has a really high chance to cause stumble/knockdown even without skills factored in. AF-2011s and
especially the HX25 each fire multiple projectiles at a time, all of which benefit from the Bonebreaker and Knock 'em Down skills.
- The ability to cause an unending chain of stumbles and knockdowns on even Scrakes and Fleshpounds, your high movement speed (especially when compared to stumbling and knocked down zeds) and the Speedloader skill will make it nearly impossible for zeds to touch you, even when you are reloading. This removes the Gunslingers biggest weaknesses (long reloads).
- The 20% damage to perk weapons and 30% limb damage from the Bonebreaker skill STACK, so hitting a zed in a limb does 20% damage to the torso and 50% MORE DAMAGE TO LIMBS. And some enemies like fleshpounds and patriarch have critical hit spots on their torsos/limbs.
- Right skill tree is also really good against Abomination boss fights. AF-2011s stop the fast moving slime minions dead in their tracks and shred them to pieces. AF-2011s can also take out the slime landmines in a single hit. Its also damn
near impossible to miss Abomination with the
HX25.
Give it a try.
It's good and i use the AFs with the right skill tree because i'm not good enough, but if you're skilled you will do more damage with rack em up in the head, since headshots do twice the damage with no boosts, + rack em up at 5x will do much, much more damage than shooting at limbs or torso with bone breaker, although bone breaker IS more forgiving and far easier to use, and lets you train to be better by still shooting at the head with a 20% bonus (2 rack em up) while still allowing you to do more damage if you miss the head and hit something else instead.
Bone breaker isn't as ammo efficient as rack em up if you are skilled enough since you do more damage.
But it is good to let people know there are other ways to play it. I'd say the right skill tree is much better and far more manageable for most people to play, since it's easier to have better results if you're an average player anyway (which is most people). The bit about the HX25 is quite interesting though, it may be worth to try it out. I'm not sure about how ammo efficient this is in a 6 player hell on earth match, but it's probably a lot of fun anyway, and this game is all about it after all.
IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!!
He’s back at it again!
Also this is the class I use 90% of the time because it’s more entertaining than mowing down hordes with a k10
Dang I don't have gunslinger up to 25 yet, didn't know it was THIS good. Great guide as always, though I'm surprised you didn't mention that the AF's actually exist which is mind blowing.
They're actually an Italian weapon too.
Yeah, it can be pretty surprising how effective the Gunslinger is at killing just about anything.
From what ive heard they were made for the 1911s 11th annivetsary
Man, you remade this *YET* again.
Guess you have a habit of updating things once certain new features arrive in the game.
Gunslinger in a nutshell: *smol dakka intensifies*
YEEES i was waiting for this
I actually find the starting revolvers usable throughout the entire waves, paired with Deagles for just the heavier duty enemies.
Same, with a headshot bonus the starting revolvers can easily clear crowds of small and medium zeds. And they’re just so damn fun to spin and reload.
I love how you used the of of soundrack
RICHARD BANGLES!!!
My current favorite class it really does deal some damage plus who does not love the movement speed
FUCK YEAH, COWBOYYY!!! Good video btw.
On the Zed Time perk bonus, I do like Whirlwind perk over the Fan Fire. I dunno, getting Zed Time just as you're about to reload, I like the fact that you're able to continue shooting like no problem before you Zed Time. Not to mention you can reload just before Zed Time ends and do a super fast reload and ready to shoot right after so. Also who doesn't like constantly firing from Movies and such towards zeds?
One very useful tip you didnt mention is by inserting the mags of the pistol, you can bash to cancel the reload animation. This is extremely useful because not only does it make the reload very fast, it also allow you to bash the zeds in your face.
He did talk about it.
I honestly main the Gunslinger class when I’m with my buddies
Your videos are super informative. Thank you for that info. Can you make fresh perk guide for the berserker?
The 1858s can carry you all the way to round 10 if you also upgrade them to atleast tier 4, and keep all zeds at bay, if you can also conserve armor consumption you can have the most dosh and then sell them for more (possibly over 5000 dosh if you sell them then switch to the deagles)
This is the coolest class in KF2 and therefore *objectively* the best class.
Sorry support and medic mains. I don't make the rules, I just remind everyone about them.
I am a medic main and I agree with you. A good GS can mean the difference between a wipe or a victory. As a med, I have met many GS players even on HoE who hold off on their own and almost never need the healing buffs or healing itself allowing me to focus on the more slow perks like Support or Demo. Plus, they pretty much annihilate any big zed on their own. Good GSs are rare but such a welcome addition to any squad.
Awesome video 👌🏻👌🏻
I do a limb splitting play style for the gunslinger but I do pop heads most of the time,
I also don't use the irn sights.
Beautiful
13:23 where is that map in the workshop?
Great info
Firebugs, I love you guys but how about you burn the 50 crawlers gnawing at my shins and NOT THE FLESHPOUND THAT I’M TRYING TO KILL!?!?!?!
Request: could you do a vid on the upgrade system? I've got no idea about it and the in game bars are kind of useless
If you want the numbers, go to the kf reddit and look for the big ole doc of everything in the sidebar. The big ole doc has all the upgrade multipliers, multiply the base damage by the multiplier (always use the base damage of the weapon, i.e. T4 damage = base damage x T4 multiplier and T5 = base damage x T5 multiplier) then round down to the nearest whole number. As for which upgrades actually matter/are impactful, it depends on the weapon.
Now we need a pair of machine pistols or smg’s. Imagine that with 5x Rack Em Up
we just got the fn fal in the beta, auto fire with a 20 rnd mag and sharp/commando slot, tis glorious damage
Yeah, we just got the automatic FN FAL rifle for the Sharpshooter, who also has Rack 'Em Up. It's pretty damn powerful.
if we get dualie SMG's i would love to run them not on gunslinger...but S.W.A.T!
(also i think we need .44's before anything else...i mean cmon...)
A Glock 18 with a 30 round magazine would be a perfect fit for the gunslinger.
Machine Pistols/smgs would be broken as hell if you combine it with Bonebreaker and Knock 'em Down.
I always play the same gunslinger build. Max upgraded lever action rifle and ONE starting revolver. And always be sure to equip the oversized cowboy hat.
What in gods name is that background music it is fire!
Funslinger is just broken, hands down, and props to the upgraded medic pistol. I'd just like to add that there can be a *Poor Man's build* which is just:
-SPX
-1911
I've been able to consistently go up to wave 7 on 6-man public HoE with just that and then cash out for a full build w/ no upgrades.
I used to think the Gunslinger wasn't good back when I first started out. Seeing the low magazine, slow reloads, and low max ammo really put me off. I never really played it until I got Golden Deagles from a box and was like, "Fuck it, I'll try the perk out again.". Once you get Speedloader and Skullcraker the Gunslinger is just a monster that can basically do anything. Now it's been a year since that and to this day I am still a Gunslinger main. Not trying to show off I got Golden Deagles but that is literally how I gave Gunslinger a chance and started playing it and eventually mained it. If it wasn't for that skin I still would have probably kept it at level 7.
My loadout for the Gunslinger is this:
Weapons:
1858 Revolvers (Dual, Upgraded 3 times)
500 Magnum (Dual, Upgraded once)
HMTech 101 Pistol (Upgraded once)
And skills:
LVL5 Quick Draw
LVL10 Bone Breaker
LVL15 Speedloader
LVL20 Knock Em Down
LVL25 Whirlwind of Lead
My reasons behind this loadout is that body damage skills over headshot skills are because there are multiple Zeds that are highly about body take downs like Rioters to their legs and EDARs for shooting them in the chest for the EMP blast. Crawlers are hard to headshot, Stalkers too. And for Fleshpounds they have their chest plate. Also I play on console, so body shots are easier. I chose to use the revolver weapons because of the nerf to reloading case ammunition guns like the Deagles. Also this loadout is easy on money for me and I love revolvers.
Sounds neat, gotta try this next time I'm on.
You're aware that Magnums and upgraded 1858s will one shot Rioters? I play on pad, too, its no excuse not to go for headshots. You cant kill a FP fast when shooting it in the chest.
@@zakillah9702 FP's chest core is a weak point too.
@@Combine96
Do you get up to 50% bonus damage when shooting it? No.
Besides, the head has ~1600 HP, the body has over 5000. You need around 3 times more shots if you shoot the chest instead of the head. In other words, chest gives 110% damage, headshots over 300%. Its not comparable.
Solo its maybe alright to body shot them, vs a 6P SUI/HOE pounder you're toast.
Here I thought the deagles were weak. Great guide
1911 has a better upgrade tree. first upgrade doesnt add weight.
Out of curiousity, why do you pick the Dual Desert Eagles over the Dual Magnums for the balanced build? I find that I am more consistent with the magnums, but I don't really do high level play the farthest I've been on Endless Suicidal difficulty is wave 15 solo. So wondering if there's a higher level of play advantage with the Deagles.
2:58 How is he displaying damage?
YES FINALLY
Would have liked to have got your take on the 9mm pistols for this build, if it's worth to get dual or upgrade them at all.
I think it's also worth considering that the spitfires provide an excellent support weapon for taking on trash and have a pretty generous ammo amount for the low weight usage, so can be worth spamming down range and running off.
I didn’t think the fully upgraded Desert Eagles were actually stronger than the .500 Magnums upgraded. That’s kinda weird. I’m mainly running gunslinger cause handguns are usually my go to in video games. Anyone on PS4 down to play?
The glock 18 seems like a really nice weapon now a days to use as your main gun. Duel wielding and single use is great. I personally like them better than DE because I can spray when need be and be okay and the glock is good against flesh and scrakes. Tho if you want to take big enemies out better you need lvl 10 benefit of the 5x damage of a headshot just because of the sheer amount of ammo it fires at once. Level 20 gunslinger with dual glocks is just about over powered on hard difficulty/solo. But if not used to it’s best abilities it’s a good weapon at Best but not op just because you could run out of ammo mid round if not handled properly. If they ever nerf anything about this gun it should only be damage. If they mess with fire rate or amount of ammo in clip or reserve it will take the fun out of the guns. But I don’t think they need a nerf simply because they haven’t touched the desert eagles.
Blegh I was hoping the Deagles wouldn't be the most optimal choice. I personally think they're incredibly ugly. Sticking with the 500's. My team can suck it.
Great, but I find myself so overwhelmed with detailed information that by the end of the video, I'm not sure I've learnt anything at all ;-)
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AF2011>Deagle tbh. Has the ability to get two Rack' Em Up points, has more damage and "2" more bullets. Only disadvantage is you have a chance of one bullet missing and the weight.
How can I download the training map at 13:04? I want to practice more in a map like this
AND HE DELIVERS
I reply here for the comment in the last poll section (YT don't let me to reply to you sorry) : As an old fan of the channel I think it's time for me to make some criticism (only for KF2, the other games do not interest me and I'm not an expert) I think it's wrong, in my opinion, the approach to the perk guides that you have in recent videos. Let me explain: after 600 hours of play on KF2 I think I can give my opinion on my favorite game. First of all: KF2 is not a schematic game, it is a real survival, for this reason I would like to say that it is wrong to say in videos that some weapons are useless and certain perk skills are useless. This is not absolutely true. All weapons have a reason to exist within the game and all perk skills are useful, none must be ignored. There is nothing more wrong than what you wrote in the latest gunslinger video, as you were talking about the perk skill tree: "The only way to play with the gunslinger". Or when you have considered useless weapons like the trenchgun of the firebug, which is instead a very useful weapon to compensate for the ineffectiveness of the other weapons of the perk against certain zeds. A schematic approach to this game could be used only if you have a perfectly tuned team and where all the players are coordinated and very experienced, but this almost never happens, most of the time you play with random players . Thanks for the attention Richard , keep up the good work.
Is it weird that I only sue the spitfire revolvers when I sue this perk?
Correction:use
Need update. Glocks are here and overpowered what should I take with them?
If you fully upgrade em dual wielded you can only take duel wield Deagles with em. Honestly for me HOE solo the single Glock is much better for trash than any other gun available to the gun slinger and it give you plenty of ammo to last the round and then use the Deagles on flesh pounds and Scrakes. The Glock is more than capable of ah doing them too but you many not have enough ammo to finish out the round if you use it for fleshpounds and scrakes. I don’t buy dual glocks until boss round. With dual wielded the already bad recoils becomes worse and you lose the fast reload speed. I buy both durning the boss rounds as both shreds the boa and the recoil doesn’t matter as much because the boss has a huge hit box compared to trash. That’s how I use em. This way of playing though kinda goes against how you’re suppose to play gunslinger
I think you only need max about 2 guns lol deagles and whatever else you fancy
I think I’m tripping
I have a feeling the Rhino would make a big impact, especially on trash zeds
how do you feel over the game overall atm?
does anyone know the name of the song that starts around 4:40? it sounds like it's from the game but i don't recall actually hearing it ingame
Abandon All
thanks
I leveled up 6 times in one endless match.
Am I doing it right?
When you said T5 deagles. When would the best moments be to upgrade them? Since you also need to buy the other weapons
I'll say now I'm complete garbage at hitting headshots, so I don't really use Gunslinger much.
I run bone breaker because the extra 20% overall is still decent if you don't care to aim for the head on lester zeds, especially if you use a mid tier weapon. As good as I am at aiming for the head with this perk, I dont like the fact you need to keep rack em up sustained.
What song is used in the intros?
Love the no upgrade. Honestly I go duel 500s for my main and trash clean up, with the Deagels in my pockets of the shit hits the fan. I just think the 500s is just a fun gun to play with, more so than the deags.
Does somebody know the name of the intro song for all these class videos ?
2:42
Oh Yeah i know that Moment...
Zed Time but you cant see shit
Oh, the good old days of kf1 when my one and only true loadout was a pair of deagles for trash and a crossbow for flehpounds and scrakes
How does he aim down the sights with one pistol despite the fact he is holding two?
Your alternate fire button, the middle mouse button by default. It toggles between the two styles while holding dual weapons.
Can someone tell me whether the deagles are still worth maining after the nerf?
Yes, i played dual deagle and dual magnum. Great Combo
what is the training map, u r playin at?
S'funny they actually just nerfed the DE's upgrade damage by a bit in the Halloween beta.
They did, but it wasn't a big enough nerf to meaningfully change anything, you can use them the same.
Yeah I figured as much.
What is the intro song
A bit late to ask, but how did you aim with one gun from a dual wield?
Press the middle mouse button, the wheel xd
@@lazarstojanovic4984 Thanks! I found that out yesterday.
Your intro sounds like a hardcore gorino theme