Every time I work on my boats I end up watching hours of Dangar Marine. Thanks so much you have helped me keep my family having fun and fishing year after year. Thanks again Sir.
hola muy buenas tardes , quería pedirle un gran favor si es posible soy de argentina y me gustan sus vídeos y la verdad aprendo muchisimo , podrian salir subtitulado en Español para poder leer lo que enseña ,para mi y otras personas mas ,sería de gran valor muchisimas gracias y saludos desde Argentina
Hello, I have changed the impeller on my Mercury 30hp and I have checked that the impeller is stuck and spins when you turn the shaft. but there will be no cooler water from Tell-tale. does pressure have to build up and can it take a long time? thanks in advance.
You are the man!!!! I was about to give up. I didn’t know it would suck air if the water wasn’t high enough. The muffs did nothing for me. Filled a tote and now she pumping water like a champ. Thank you!!!!
You just saved my 4th of july man! cleared the tell tail still wouldn't pee, lifted my bin up a little higher and she started peeing again.... i was 5 mins away from taking the lower off, hopped on TH-cam for a guide on how to do it and seen your video in the recommended, thank the lord i watched your video first! Thanks a million man!!!
After battling a water pump for a couple hours I watched this and just hooked up a hose with earmuffs. Problem solved, boat runs like a champ. Thanks Stu!! Rebuilt my lower unit with new dog clutch and all new seals, carb rebuild, fuel pump rebuild, fixed throttle advance, and everything is greased up. Literally all from your videos. Two years ago I paid a guy $650 to replace my impeller (after 6 weeks with my boat). The freedom you've given me is unbelievably valuable.
You may have just made me 500 dollars. Been unclogging stuff and tinkering half the day thinking I gotta take apart a bunch of things. Never had problems with my motor spitting water out...on the lake. Muffs on...nothing. used muffs because I have a flat and can't take it to the lake! Bucket time! Can't wait for morning to try it out. Also, my go to channel now and will inform anyone needing help! Thank you!
My son and I had taken ours apart and worked on the impeller. Once we were done we reassembled everything and... no water flow. We had the lower unit in a tub of water with enough to allow the intakes to be below the surface but your tip about lowering it even more was the key point to prime the pump. We tried again with a taller water tub and voila... problem solved...! Thanks so much for posting this video. It saved us so much time and money. Cheers..!
You just saved me a lot of time and money. I replaced the water pump and couldn't get it to pump water. Filled up the trash can with a little more water and it pisses out water like a racehorse. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for your content. I completed a rebuild on a 15hp Evinrude which is mounted on an adjustable jack plate, which worked perfectly on the muffs when tested after the rebuild but hadn't been on the water yet. When I tried to start it up with the boat beached it wasn't sitting deep enough in the water to prime the pump, so all I had was a noticeable pulse of air coming from the tell. After bringing it home and scratching my head I found your video and immediately took the boat to a local boat launch to test immersing deeper and voila - strong stream from the tell.
Thank you so much! I replace the impeller on my Evinrude 9.9. The motor has planing fins, so I used a storage box that accommodated them, and still submerged the intake. I had used a motorcycle fork seal grease, on the impeller, during reassembly, for insurance. After running for 20 seconds, no "peeing"? I was about to tear it back down, second guessing my work, when I found your video. I removed the fins and used a recycle bin, deep enough to submerge the pump...presto! It primed and circulated. THANK YOU!
Thank You I rebuilt my water pump reinstalled my Foot (Lower Unit) No water with muffs.Placed it in a barrel up to the water intake’s and no water. Removed the lower unit 3 more times to re check my work. Scratched my head,slept on it and tried again the next morning NADA! Searching the IT and found your posting. Repositioning the engine in order to get deeper in the barrel and WooHoo, my work is good and proves a point to me that muffs can’t be trusted nor can a barrel if you are not close to the cavation plate. Thanks again and as you said if it were a self priming pump things could have worked but now I know. Stay Safe and Enjoy the Water ✌️
Thanks for that info. I was just looking at a 6HP Yamaha tonight with muffs and it wasn't pumping water - never thought a minute that it could be a priming issue. Still buying it, because it's a fairly easy fix either way, but I'll have to barrel test it when I get it home now.
Glad I found this video. You just saved me a few hundred bucks by not having to get my pump replaced. I had been testing my motor in tank but the tank wasn’t deep enough. Got a taller one and pump works great.
Stu is spot on; recently experienced this after I build a motor stand and tested the water pump after replacement (previously would do it from the stern of the boat). Used the same bucket which was not high enough with the stand like it was with the boat.
Changed the water pump and gaskets, raised the water level in the 'bucket' to just about where the water pump is situated and poured in 5-1 ratio of plain white vinegar which was cheaper at the supermarket, cancelled the descaling fluid......Ran for about 1/2 an hour and was left with a tablespoon full of sand, shells and silt in the bottom. Rinsed with fresh water and the tell tale and exhaust were pumping water out. Job well done
you bloody legend, thats the best little nugget on the interweb. fixing up my Merc 20hp that has sat for 7 years. just had the leg off and on again and off again put it all back together and then found this, boom there she goes water like a horse. If I could send you a box of coopers I would. Thanks John. New Zealand
This video saved me a lot of time and money. My motor telltale was not peeing. I replaced the impeller. Still nothing. I tried muffs. I tried a bucket. Nothing. Was just about to take the lower unit off and verify everything looked right (and it would have, because it was right). That would have lead to even more confusion. Then I would have taken it to a repair shop. But I saw this video suggesting the need for deeper water. Got a new, larger, deeper water trough and it worked! The telltale was working perfectly. Yayyyyy!!!!! Thanks Dangar Marine!
I would have spent hours removing the powerhead and ordering expensive parts if I didn't run across this video. I had everything together fine, forgot about the water depth. Thank you Sir!
After testing my motor after a 6 month break it wasn’t pumping water, pulled the pump apart and rebuilt it only to find it still didn’t pump… after a second rebuild and a lot of cranky words I found your video! Adding more water to the bucket magically fixed it, thanks!
Pulled lower unit off 4 times thinking it wasn't working right. Then my google skills found this video. Thank you so much....sunk it in a trash can and boom...working. Awesome sauce!
Man you really know your stuff! I tried that same test and it was only pumping on high rev!!!! and was only pumping sometimes . So thanks for the info!!!!!! Will do a total overhaul!
Thanks you so much, your video has saved me. I just could not understand why my new impeller was not pumping. The ear muffs are useless and then used a large bucket. But as you have shown water level is critical. All good now. Thanks again.
This video is awesome. How is this not the first thing everyone says to people who is testing motors? High water level! I've spent two days wrenching on my Johnson 6hp engine, trying to figure out the cooling issue. All i needed was more water! Thanks!!! (i also changed the impeller, and serviced a lot of other stuff, so all the work was worth something, as long as it works now, which it does).
Saved Me from splitting the motor. Just did the Impeller and no water coming out. It was just covering the intake. Back out for deeper bucket. Thanks for the vid.
Ha ha ! I've been scratchin me head for 2 days tryin to figure out why it's not pumping. Added a bit more water to the bucket & ....BINGO ! It's pumping ! Thanks mate !
You might have just saved me 250 bucks. I just ran my outboard with water only up above the intake holes and got no flow. I had already gotten a price for a new water pump. But I decided to check out my man Dangar. If this works, I'm going to open an account on patreon for the sole purpose of making a donation.
Sadly, I did not see this until after I dropped the lower unit and took apart the impeller housing. I reassembled all and raised the water level in my tank to the prescribed height in your video and Eureka! A lesson I'll not forget. Much thanks!
Once again you have saved me from pulling my hair out. I replaced the impeller in my '93 Evinrude 25 (among other things) and after putting it all back together got no tell-tale while running it in the tank. Watched this video, jacked my water tank up higher, filled it to the very brim and...PRESTO! Motor is pissing like a champ. Donation sent, and money will spent. Many, many thanks mate!
Thanks for the idea. I did this with my 40 HP Johnson, but the driveshaft was too big. I ended up clamping a piece of garden hose on the shaft, and a half inch extension{upside down}, and inserted the extension in the drill. worked awesome.
Man, Thanks so much! I just did my first water pump on a little Johnson 15 and set the engine in a bucket of water and it did not pump. Was getting ready to tear the thing apart again thinking I had done something wrong. Your video was a life saver. As you pointed out, these pumps are not self priming. I found a deeper bucket and filled to the level that you recommended and presto, she was peeing like crazy. Thanks for the excellent video. Keep up the good work!
OMG! THIS is the video that everybody is looking for. I took careful attention to Change my impeller properly and then did the test in the driveway with the Ear Muffs, then the flush line with my garden hose (tell tale worked perfect with this flushing test) etc. EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING was perfect though I could not get water to come out of the Tell tale. I even filled my trash can up to just above the Intake Grids and STILL couldn’t get water to pump through the tell tale. I watched this video and thought “...there’s no way this is going to work..” and yet when I backed the boat down the landing ramp and lower the unit into deeper water, I started the motor in deeper water and WHAM! ....Water streaming like a river!!!! YES! I still don’t understand the physics of this as to why the deeper water makes/made a difference BUT IT WORKED and Dangar I am forever grateful! Thank You!
@@DangarMarine Hey. I am from Russia, I use a translator. Sorry for my English. The question is, when we go on a glider, the water level is lower and the water flows. Why?
@DangarMarineа как же вода потом не уходит из помпы? как потом её снова засасывает насосом?вода же не остаётся там,да и это чревато если зимой замёрзнет
I am glad I watched your video. I tried to test mine today and thought it was bad but after watching the video I realized my water may have been to shallow. Thanx!
Hey just wanted to say thanks for your efforts and time. I'm an apprentice boat tech and I'm just finishing up Yamaha school in the states. Your videos are very helpful .. thank you sir. Michael.
Thanks for showing us how to solve the mystery of why our newly installed water pump was not working! Not having the water level high enough when testing prevented the stream from flowing. It would have been better if we had found your video before our fourth breakdown and re-assembly, but my 16 year old is now an expert on both impellers and thermostats.
So glad I watched this video. I bought a used 2002 Honda 225 outboard. I saw it running at the time and it gushed water out the jet, but when I installed it on my boat a couple of weeks ago using ear muffs on the garden hose, no water came out, so I switched it off. I then put it into a tub with the water coming to about 1/4 inch above the intake, ( deepest tub I could find ) but still no water came out. Now I know why, thanks to you. Your videos are the best on the web and I really enjoy watching them. I like the fact that it is not all about spending money, it about getting things to work one way or the other. I would love to see you working on the exact same engine as mine but realize it would be difficult as there are so many choices out there. I would suggest however, that if you did do videos on the most popular models and horse powers, I, and many others, would be prepared to pay for access to in depth instruction videos of their particular engine, done in the same manner as your existing videos. I really like when you ad small additional pieces of information, just so that we are fully aware of the situation and therefore stop us rushing in and doing something stupid. I was about to strip down my engine and replace the water pump. Now I will wait until next season and test it in the water. I am now sure there is no problem, but at some point I will service it, just so I am aware off it's condition. I would like to see you make a buck just so you will stay with it. Thanks again. Keep up the good work. Bob.
Thanks Bob, really glad the video saved you from some unnecessary work. I'd love to slowly build a collection of videos showing all the common jobs on the common outboards. Hopefully over the next few years I'll get enough of the right motors in here to do that.
Stu, once again your videos are a life saver. Planning to take the wife out on the lake tomorrow and when I was prepping the boat earlier in the week, it wasn't pumping water. Thankfully I knew what not to do and it didn't overheat but I remembered this video and tried getting a bigger tub. Bam. Pumping just fine. Also a nice side effect of the engine getting a little warm was my moisture misfire gremlin was cooked out of the ignition system. :P
Was definitely the cable. had to adjust the "nut" on the engine side of the gear selector cable so that at "full throw" reverse, it wasn't pushing the rod far enough back. Takes me back to my amateur bike mechanic days. :P
Stu, Thank you for all of your videos / help. This video saved me from going crazy. You were right and your technique works. I couldn't get a cordless drill on the shaft. I used a shop towel and vice grips for my experiment. Please keep up the great videos... We need you in the States (even if it is via TH-cam)
I had changed my impeller at the end of last season.. I filled up a bucket and started the motor and no water.. let it run a while and heard an alarm so shut her off.. started thinking I had to tear it apart again but thought I would see if you had anything about this. Saw this video, used a larger container and that did the trick!Thank you thank you thank you!!
Great tip. Also, if you have checked everything out and everything appears to look good and the water level is high enough and it's STILL not pumping, look closely at the seal on top of the impellor housing. If it has a seal. Some housings don't have seals. Some do. If they don't, look at the housing itself. Make sure its not distorted from heat. If you stick a short hose into the housing where the water shoots out of the housing, there should be a good stream of water coming out of the hose. Just keep your face away from the sudden gush of water.
Did this test on a Suzuki DF4 WP which revealed I had a leaking drive shaft seal on the top of the housing - half water coming out the WP discharge, the other half out the leaking shaft seal, result - insufficient pump head pressure to reach the tell tale let alone the cylinder head. I would suggest fitting a tube to the outlet with sufficient height to demonstrate the pump head pressure. As presented the test only demonstrates the pump impeller is rotating and won’t demonstrate pump head. Hope this helps.
You saved me a bunch of time also/// I was getting ready to change out my water pump and tried what you showed...it worked just fine with a little more water...thanks so much... : )
@@DangarMarine my only comlaint is using a ratchet strap to pull the leg on my 90 tohatsu loccks up with about 2inches left no way am i goingbto force it i think its the shitty copper water tube not seating in the pump pity you CAN'T look inside and see
Stu, I have to agree with J Dexter. Another good tutorial. I took my lower unit off due to it not pumping water. I suspected the impeller but it's fine. However the rubber piece covering the top of the impeller housing is torn and unserviceable. I'll test the lower unit just like you've shown and also pump water through the upper unit before assembly. thanks
Just saved me a second tear down. I have a long outboard 6hp johnson designed for sail boats and mine wouldnt pick up until the pump portion was below the water line.
Wow!!!!! I believe this is my problem. I have a 30 hp 1995 evinrude. I’m in the process of getting ready to replace the water pump. I bought a kit. And have been researching videos to properly replace the water pump. If you are able to answer some of my questions please let me know. Thank you so much for your videos.
Well, this vid might have solved a suspected problem I have. With the "ear muffs" on the motor on land the water is very slow to piss out but when the motor is in a lake it's fine. I will test this theory in a bucket and I suspect you've helped me out again. Thank you! excellent video once again.
Great help- Just bought a used Yamaha 8 that had no telltale water. Pulled gearcase, had an unusual problem, the output pipe grommet was jammed down into the output hole. Error in prior reasembly. Quick cheap fix, I thought. Still no telltale. Pulled it apart again, submerged more deeply. Still none. Poured water into outflow hole and now it pumps. If I stop the drill, it does not reprime itself, but I expect it will be OK when submerged on the boat, just a testing problem. New pump kit on order, but I am back underway for now.
Thank you,I think that is what is going on with mine,replaced all the pump parts including a new outlet seal and little or no water pumping,it was about the level of your first test and no luck with the muffs either,I need a trash can or something deep to get this thing primed.Going to try spinning it while disassembled too to know it's pumping.
Yes hehe this is not easy.I tryed and get the shop mounting a new impeller when separated it,s gearhouse, but it dont cool good.A little used yamaha 8 so go for a new tohatsu next year.Tohatsu seems to have little to no problems with this since used them for years before.The yamha will be sold cheap to get rid of it.
Thank you! I was testing my 3.5 envinrude, which is a Tohatsu 3.5, it seems, and no water was coming out of the tell tale (I also learned from another video of yours that it is just a tell tale, not all of the water comes out of there). I was thinking I had a problem in cooling system but it was just the water level that was too low. Saved the day!
Great information about things that appeared like only a Factory trained Mechanic could do. Your video presentation is straightforward And demystified. Thanks M8, you're Awesome, And you saved me a lot of money. Fair dinkums..
Your the man I did what you said to see if the new water pump worked after putting it into a bucket or large garbage can. I did just that and now the water is peeing out of the piss tube Thank You very much. A++++
I wonder how it ever worked in the tank before we have used or for that matter in the seal? I could not make the pump work using the drill until the water was right below the pump as you explain. But normally we have had it in a tank with much lower level. So my question is how does it work when its in the sea and ihe water level is not that high?
your videos have shown and taught me so much, in the past I would've taken it to the marine shop for simple things, and for that I'd just like to say thank you!
Hey cobber. Brand new housing, impeller and still not pumping is it I've put something together wrong although I've done it twice going off a few different videos.. I guess I'm really asking is there anything under the pump housing that could be blocking access to the pump. Everything else works and runs perfectly. 1980-90's Yamaha 8hp 2st Love ya videos so far this old outboard has been a pain in the arse and I can't afford a real mechanic. Your carby video is what really got it going when no one could. It has been parked up in a shed for about 7 years and never used so I figured there'd be some gremlins. Thanks again cobber priceless information.
I am in the middle of servicing my Mariner 3.3 HP 2 stroke. I came back inside for information about the water tube connecting the water pump to the power head. I came across your video and paused it after I saw what you did to check the pump using a cordless drill. Brilliant idea Thanks. I did the test like you did and it is ok, my question is: WHERE is the water tube? I did not find any in mine and when I thought to measure and make one, there is no port or anything to connect the tube to. do these outboard have water tube or this is how they are designed with out a water tube. any feed back would be appreciated. and Thanks for the video
Hi fantastic video. i have a 2000 model Johnson outboard 25hp it had a new Impeller kit fitted by a marine mechanic we brought the boat get home put it in water no water out pee hole i blew in it it seems clear. got me stumped
Hi fixed pumping problem the new impeller was shredded, but i have another problem when engine is running it sounds like its sneezing so to speak like a misfire any help appreciated
@@DangarMarine I have a good question I tend to come across alot of older outboards My current resto being a 73 evinrude runs beautifully however I've noticed none seem to have a kill switch/lanyard I know its fairly easy to wire one up but I'm curious did the older control boxes come with separate unit for start stop I assume switches were just wired to dash back in the days
@@DangarMarine Sorry the question is Does the factory loom already have a kill switch I've found start wire and one moves a vacuum looking actuator thing others are unknown
Love the Chanel No telling how much time and money this guy has saved me. I have a question? I have a 89 60hp evinrude I have bought back to life. When it’s in water and staring for the first time it makes a sucking sound. Could this just be the water pump priming? That’s the only time it does it. The motor runs with no issues and is not hard to start. Thanks in advance
Thanks so much for the vid Stu. I've just done a new water pump impeller and housing on my '78 115hp chrysler, muffs showed no water today and was not looking forward to removing the leg again. Gives me a thing to check tomorrow.
Dangar Marine I had a big(140ltr) bunnings tub yesterday filled it, the motor backfired and instantly blew the back of the tub out. Trying round two with a proper stainless tub tonight. Learning soooo much from your channel Dangar Stu cheers.
200lt plastic barrel worked a treat. Flushed out a fair bit of sand too, has no thermostat and couldn't get it to temp to idle. But hey it pumps a really good amount of water now.. So thanks again for your very informative videos, being boats are new to me but seeing it done make all the difference.
Every time I work on my boats I end up watching hours of Dangar Marine. Thanks so much you have helped me keep my family having fun and fishing year after year. Thanks again Sir.
hola muy buenas tardes , quería pedirle un gran favor si es posible soy de argentina y me gustan sus vídeos y la verdad aprendo muchisimo , podrian salir subtitulado en Español para poder leer lo que enseña ,para mi y otras personas mas ,sería de gran valor muchisimas gracias y saludos desde Argentina
Me too 💯
Hello, I have changed the impeller on my Mercury 30hp and I have checked that the impeller is stuck and spins when you turn the shaft. but there will be no cooler water from Tell-tale. does pressure have to build up and can it take a long time? thanks in advance.
You are the man!!!! I was about to give up. I didn’t know it would suck air if the water wasn’t high enough. The muffs did nothing for me. Filled a tote and now she pumping water like a champ. Thank you!!!!
Exact question I had. Thank you
Doing this tomorrow 🤪
You just saved my 4th of july man! cleared the tell tail still wouldn't pee, lifted my bin up a little higher and she started peeing again.... i was 5 mins away from taking the lower off, hopped on TH-cam for a guide on how to do it and seen your video in the recommended, thank the lord i watched your video first! Thanks a million man!!!
Saaaaaame
After battling a water pump for a couple hours I watched this and just hooked up a hose with earmuffs. Problem solved, boat runs like a champ. Thanks Stu!! Rebuilt my lower unit with new dog clutch and all new seals, carb rebuild, fuel pump rebuild, fixed throttle advance, and everything is greased up. Literally all from your videos. Two years ago I paid a guy $650 to replace my impeller (after 6 weeks with my boat). The freedom you've given me is unbelievably valuable.
Glad it helped. :)
$650?? You got ripped.
@@wolfpackflt670 just like al the boat mechanics and shops are, rip offs, like car mechanics, a/c guys etc.. I can do them all and I know they are..
Stu you are the man. This is the first and only time I have seen or heard this golden nugget of information. If this works I will dance a jig.
Good luck!
You may have just made me 500 dollars. Been unclogging stuff and tinkering half the day thinking I gotta take apart a bunch of things. Never had problems with my motor spitting water out...on the lake.
Muffs on...nothing. used muffs because I have a flat and can't take it to the lake! Bucket time! Can't wait for morning to try it out.
Also, my go to channel now and will inform anyone needing help! Thank you!
Hey brother, I'm from Brazil and I'm serving the Brazilian Navy and your videos are helping me so mutch to fix de boats of my ship. Really thanks!
You're welcome Yago. :)
My son and I had taken ours apart and worked on the impeller. Once we were done we reassembled everything and... no water flow. We had the lower unit in a tub of water with enough to allow the intakes to be below the surface but your tip about lowering it even more was the key point to prime the pump. We tried again with a taller water tub and voila... problem solved...! Thanks so much for posting this video. It saved us so much time and money. Cheers..!
You just saved me a lot of time and money. I replaced the water pump and couldn't get it to pump water. Filled up the trash can with a little more water and it pisses out water like a racehorse. Thank you very much.
You're welcome, happy to help. :)
@DangarMarineподскажите пожалуйста заменил помпу в сборе на Ямаха 8 а вода не идёт,опускал глубоко в бочку,а воды всё нет
Thank you very much for your content. I completed a rebuild on a 15hp Evinrude which is mounted on an adjustable jack plate, which worked perfectly on the muffs when tested after the rebuild but hadn't been on the water yet. When I tried to start it up with the boat beached it wasn't sitting deep enough in the water to prime the pump, so all I had was a noticeable pulse of air coming from the tell. After bringing it home and scratching my head I found your video and immediately took the boat to a local boat launch to test immersing deeper and voila - strong stream from the tell.
Thank you so much!
I replace the impeller on my Evinrude 9.9. The motor has planing fins, so I used a storage box that accommodated them, and still submerged the intake. I had used a motorcycle fork seal grease, on the impeller, during reassembly, for insurance. After running for 20 seconds, no "peeing"?
I was about to tear it back down, second guessing my work, when I found your video.
I removed the fins and used a recycle bin, deep enough to submerge the pump...presto! It primed and circulated.
THANK YOU!
Thank You I rebuilt my water pump reinstalled my Foot (Lower Unit) No water with muffs.Placed it in a barrel up to the water intake’s and no water. Removed the lower unit 3 more times to re check my work. Scratched my head,slept on it and tried again the next morning NADA! Searching the IT and found your posting. Repositioning the engine in order to get deeper in the barrel and WooHoo, my work is good and proves a point to me that muffs can’t be trusted nor can a barrel if you are not close to the cavation plate. Thanks again and as you said if it were a self priming pump things could have worked but now I know. Stay Safe and Enjoy the Water ✌️
Thanks for that info. I was just looking at a 6HP Yamaha tonight with muffs and it wasn't pumping water - never thought a minute that it could be a priming issue. Still buying it, because it's a fairly easy fix either way, but I'll have to barrel test it when I get it home now.
@ChrisPollardвы смогли решить проблему?вы меняли крыльчатку? пошла вода из контрольного отверстия?
Straight to the point. This guy is great. Thanks for the terrific learning experience.
Glad I found this video. You just saved me a few hundred bucks by not having to get my pump replaced. I had been testing my motor in tank but the tank wasn’t deep enough. Got a taller one and pump works great.
Great to hear!
wow..I'll try that tomorrow
I've repaired many many motors here in Alaska and didnt know they couldn't self prime, you make great videos and they're Always very informative.
Thanks Charles, glad you've been enjoying the vids!
Stu is spot on; recently experienced this after I build a motor stand and tested the water pump after replacement (previously would do it from the stern of the boat). Used the same bucket which was not high enough with the stand like it was with the boat.
Wow, this little gem of a video just made me and my motor very happy. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Changed the water pump and gaskets, raised the water level in the 'bucket' to just about where the water pump is situated and poured in 5-1 ratio of plain white vinegar which was cheaper at the supermarket, cancelled the descaling fluid......Ran for about 1/2 an hour and was left with a tablespoon full of sand, shells and silt in the bottom. Rinsed with fresh water and the tell tale and exhaust were pumping water out. Job well done
Nice one, sounds like it made a big difference.
South African for the win!!!! This is so smart. Really top notch video. thank you
you bloody legend, thats the best little nugget on the interweb. fixing up my Merc 20hp that has sat for 7 years. just had the leg off and on again and off again put it all back together and then found this, boom there she goes water like a horse. If I could send you a box of coopers I would. Thanks John. New Zealand
Hey John, glad the video helped you! There's always the Coopers fund PayPal link on the channel page. ;)
@@DangarMarine just did enjoy
Drinking a Coopers right now to your good health fine sir. Have a great New Years! :)
Thanks Stu. It was doing my head in why it wouldn’t pump water. Now I just need to adjust the gear selector and all done.
This video saved me a lot of time and money.
My motor telltale was not peeing. I replaced the impeller. Still nothing.
I tried muffs. I tried a bucket. Nothing.
Was just about to take the lower unit off and verify everything looked right (and it would have, because it was right). That would have lead to even more confusion. Then I would have taken it to a repair shop.
But I saw this video suggesting the need for deeper water.
Got a new, larger, deeper water trough and it worked!
The telltale was working perfectly. Yayyyyy!!!!!
Thanks Dangar Marine!
I would have spent hours removing the powerhead and ordering expensive parts if I didn't run across this video. I had everything together fine, forgot about the water depth. Thank you Sir!
After testing my motor after a 6 month break it wasn’t pumping water, pulled the pump apart and rebuilt it only to find it still didn’t pump… after a second rebuild and a lot of cranky words I found your video! Adding more water to the bucket magically fixed it, thanks!
Pulled lower unit off 4 times thinking it wasn't working right. Then my google skills found this video. Thank you so much....sunk it in a trash can and boom...working. Awesome sauce!
Man you really know your stuff! I tried that same test and it was only pumping on high rev!!!! and was only pumping sometimes . So thanks for the info!!!!!! Will do a total overhaul!
Thanks you so much, your video has saved me. I just could not understand why my new impeller was not pumping. The ear muffs are useless and then used a large bucket. But as you have shown water level is critical. All good now. Thanks again.
You're welcome Steve, yes, I have very mixed results when trying to get a telltale on ear muffs.
This video is awesome. How is this not the first thing everyone says to people who is testing motors? High water level! I've spent two days wrenching on my Johnson 6hp engine, trying to figure out the cooling issue. All i needed was more water! Thanks!!! (i also changed the impeller, and serviced a lot of other stuff, so all the work was worth something, as long as it works now, which it does).
Eirik A, I am fortunate and only spent 2 hrs before my buddy sent me this video. Stu is great.
Stu is a good teacher his videos are very helpful he knows the trade thanks for sharing mate
Saved Me from splitting the motor. Just did the Impeller and no water coming out. It was just covering the intake. Back out for deeper bucket. Thanks for the vid.
Ha ha ! I've been scratchin me head for 2 days tryin to figure out why it's not pumping.
Added a bit more water to the bucket & ....BINGO ! It's pumping !
Thanks mate !
You might have just saved me 250 bucks. I just ran my outboard with water only up above the intake holes and got no flow. I had already gotten a price for a new water pump. But I decided to check out my man Dangar. If this works, I'm going to open an account on patreon for the sole purpose of making a donation.
Sadly, I did not see this until after I dropped the lower unit and took apart the impeller housing. I reassembled all and raised the water level in my tank to the prescribed height in your video and Eureka! A lesson I'll not forget. Much thanks!
You're welcome Chris, you know now! :)
Once again you have saved me from pulling my hair out. I replaced the impeller in my '93 Evinrude 25 (among other things) and after putting it all back together got no tell-tale while running it in the tank. Watched this video, jacked my water tank up higher, filled it to the very brim and...PRESTO! Motor is pissing like a champ. Donation sent, and money will spent. Many, many thanks mate!
Hey mate. I always love it when the videos help people out. Thank you very much for your generous donation, it is very much appreciated! :)
Thanks for the idea. I did this with my 40 HP Johnson, but the driveshaft was too big. I ended up clamping a piece of garden hose on the shaft, and a half inch extension{upside down}, and inserted the extension in the drill. worked awesome.
Some solid advice on this video. For new folks to the outboards that is handy to know. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Man, Thanks so much! I just did my first water pump on a little Johnson 15 and set the engine in a bucket of water and it did not pump. Was getting ready to tear the thing apart again thinking I had done something wrong. Your video was a life saver. As you pointed out, these pumps are not self priming. I found a deeper bucket and filled to the level that you recommended and presto, she was peeing like crazy. Thanks for the excellent video. Keep up the good work!
Great. What about if its not pumping when hooked up with a water hose vs bucket?
OMG! THIS is the video that everybody is looking for. I took careful attention to Change my impeller properly and then did the test in the driveway with the Ear Muffs, then the flush line with my garden hose (tell tale worked perfect with this flushing test) etc. EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING was perfect though I could not get water to come out of the Tell tale. I even filled my trash can up to just above the Intake Grids and STILL couldn’t get water to pump through the tell tale. I watched this video and thought “...there’s no way this is going to work..” and yet when I backed the boat down the landing ramp and lower the unit into deeper water, I started the motor in deeper water and WHAM! ....Water streaming like a river!!!! YES! I still don’t understand the physics of this as to why the deeper water makes/made a difference BUT IT WORKED and Dangar I am forever grateful! Thank You!
You're welcome Mike, glad the vid helped you. :) It works because the pump is higher than those grills and can't suck air to get to the water.
@@DangarMarine Hey. I am from Russia, I use a translator. Sorry for my English. The question is, when we go on a glider, the water level is lower and the water flows. Why?
@DangarMarineа как же вода потом не уходит из помпы? как потом её снова засасывает насосом?вода же не остаётся там,да и это чревато если зимой замёрзнет
@ermak-rybakон не хочет наверное отвечать
I am glad I watched your video. I tried to test mine today and thought it was bad but after watching the video I realized my water may have been to shallow. Thanx!
Thanks Gary, hopefully your pump is fine.
Hey just wanted to say thanks for your efforts and time. I'm an apprentice boat tech and I'm just finishing up Yamaha school in the states. Your videos are very helpful .. thank you sir.
Michael.
You're welcome Michael, good luck with last of your training. :)
Very handy tip. Thanks Stu.
Happy to help
I replaced mine last year and the test run worked great. I tried it with just the intake underwater and didn't work. Now I know why! Thank you.
Thanks for showing us how to solve the mystery of why our newly installed water pump was not working! Not having the water level high enough when testing prevented the stream from flowing. It would have been better if we had found your video before our fourth breakdown and re-assembly, but my 16 year old is now an expert on both impellers and thermostats.
Hey Grace. Oh well, at least it was a learning experience. You never know something until you've done it four times! :)
Damn! Thank you! I was Fed up with taking this leg off wondering what the heck I had done wrong on the impeller change
So glad I watched this video. I bought a used 2002 Honda 225 outboard. I saw it running at the time and it gushed water out the jet, but when I installed it on my boat a couple of weeks ago using ear muffs on the garden hose, no water came out, so I switched it off. I then put it into a tub with the water coming to about 1/4 inch above the intake, ( deepest tub I could find ) but still no water came out. Now I know why, thanks to you. Your videos are the best on the web and I really enjoy watching them. I like the fact that it is not all about spending money, it about getting things to work one way or the other. I would love to see you working on the exact same engine as mine but realize it would be difficult as there are so many choices out there. I would suggest however, that if you did do videos on the most popular models and horse powers, I, and many others, would be prepared to pay for access to in depth instruction videos of their particular engine, done in the same manner as your existing videos. I really like when you ad small additional pieces of information, just so that we are fully aware of the situation and therefore stop us rushing in and doing something stupid. I was about to strip down my engine and replace the water pump. Now I will wait until next season and test it in the water. I am now sure there is no problem, but at some point I will service it, just so I am aware off it's condition. I would like to see you make a buck just so you will stay with it. Thanks again. Keep up the good work. Bob.
Thanks Bob, really glad the video saved you from some unnecessary work. I'd love to slowly build a collection of videos showing all the common jobs on the common outboards. Hopefully over the next few years I'll get enough of the right motors in here to do that.
Stu, once again your videos are a life saver. Planning to take the wife out on the lake tomorrow and when I was prepping the boat earlier in the week, it wasn't pumping water. Thankfully I knew what not to do and it didn't overheat but I remembered this video and tried getting a bigger tub. Bam. Pumping just fine. Also a nice side effect of the engine getting a little warm was my moisture misfire gremlin was cooked out of the ignition system. :P
Hey Peter, sounds like you've had a big win there. Hope you both had a wonderful day on the water. :)
We did indeed. Had a little issue with the gear selector not wanting to go in to reverse. Looks like its a cable issue and not the motor itself.
Was definitely the cable. had to adjust the "nut" on the engine side of the gear selector cable so that at "full throw" reverse, it wasn't pushing the rod far enough back. Takes me back to my amateur bike mechanic days. :P
Stu, Thank you for all of your videos / help. This video saved me from going crazy. You were right and your technique works. I couldn't get a cordless drill on the shaft. I used a shop towel and vice grips for my experiment. Please keep up the great videos... We need you in the States (even if it is via TH-cam)
Thanks mate, glad the vids have been helping you. :)
Great info, mine does not self prime and I could not figure out why I was burning up impellers. Thanks for great info.
I had changed my impeller at the end of last season.. I filled up a bucket and started the motor and no water.. let it run a while and heard an alarm so shut her off.. started thinking I had to tear it apart again but thought I would see if you had anything about this. Saw this video, used a larger container and that did the trick!Thank you thank you thank you!!
Thanks for the info. Ran into the same problem. Didn't realize that they are not self priming.
Great tip.
Also, if you have checked everything out and everything appears to look good and the water level is high enough and it's STILL not pumping, look closely at the seal on top of the impellor housing. If it has a seal. Some housings don't have seals. Some do. If they don't, look at the housing itself. Make sure its not distorted from heat. If you stick a short hose into the housing where the water shoots out of the housing, there should be a good stream of water coming out of the hose. Just keep your face away from the sudden gush of water.
Did this test on a Suzuki DF4 WP which revealed I had a leaking drive shaft seal on the top of the housing - half water coming out the WP discharge, the other half out the leaking shaft seal, result - insufficient pump head pressure to reach the tell tale let alone the cylinder head. I would suggest fitting a tube to the outlet with sufficient height to demonstrate the pump head pressure. As presented the test only demonstrates the pump impeller is rotating and won’t demonstrate pump head. Hope this helps.
Yo tengo problemas con un 5 hp mercuri no tiene presión el agua en mínima velocidad no tira agua
Just a quick comment to thank you for the excellent videos on Outboard engines it's helped me tremendously
Thanks Sal, glad the vids have helped you. :)
You saved me a bunch of time also/// I was getting ready to change out my water pump and tried what you showed...it worked just fine with a little more water...thanks so much... : )
Glad it was that simple. :)
@@DangarMarine my only comlaint is using a ratchet strap to pull the leg on my 90 tohatsu loccks up with about 2inches left no way am i goingbto force it i think its the shitty copper water tube not seating in the pump pity you CAN'T look inside and see
your videos are very well explained and good for problem tracing, great tips, keep up the great info
Glad you like them!
Stu, I have to agree with J Dexter. Another good tutorial. I took my lower unit off due to it not pumping water. I suspected the impeller but it's fine. However the rubber piece covering the top of the impeller housing is torn and unserviceable. I'll test the lower unit just like you've shown and also pump water through the upper unit before assembly.
thanks
It is a good move to test it first, it can save you a lot of work in the long run.
Just saved me a second tear down. I have a long outboard 6hp johnson designed for sail boats and mine wouldnt pick up until the pump portion was below the water line.
Wow!!!!! I believe this is my problem. I have a 30 hp 1995 evinrude. I’m in the process of getting ready to replace the water pump. I bought a kit. And have been researching videos to properly replace the water pump. If you are able to answer some of my questions please let me know. Thank you so much for your videos.
You are my go to for sure this video is gonna pay big dividends tomorrow thanks
ooh i think you have solved my issue with my 2008 suzuki DT30. Thank you keep up the great work!
Great to hear!
Well, this vid might have solved a suspected problem I have. With the "ear muffs" on the motor on land the water is very slow to piss out but when the motor is in a lake it's fine. I will test this theory in a bucket and I suspect you've helped me out again. Thank you! excellent video once again.
Yes, ear muffs are notoriously unreliable when it comes to feeding water to the pump. Glad the vid helped you. :)
Great help- Just bought a used Yamaha 8 that had no telltale water. Pulled gearcase, had an unusual problem, the output pipe grommet was jammed down into the output hole. Error in prior reasembly. Quick cheap fix, I thought. Still no telltale. Pulled it apart again, submerged more deeply. Still none. Poured water into outflow hole and now it pumps. If I stop the drill, it does not reprime itself, but I expect it will be OK when submerged on the boat, just a testing problem. New pump kit on order, but I am back underway for now.
Thank you,I think that is what is going on with mine,replaced all the pump parts including a new outlet seal and little or no water pumping,it was about the level of your first test and no luck with the muffs either,I need a trash can or something deep to get this thing primed.Going to try spinning it while disassembled too to know it's pumping.
Always make things simplistic, love all the videos and tutorials! Thanks again....
Thanks Chuck, glad you've been enjoying the vids. :)
Stu
Thanks so much for your videos and knowledge this connected some dots for me
Holy shit. I destroyed my newly rebuilt pump running it in a tub without enough water. Now I know. Thank you!!!!!!
Yes hehe this is not easy.I tryed and get the shop mounting a new impeller when separated it,s gearhouse, but it dont cool good.A little used yamaha 8 so go for a new tohatsu next year.Tohatsu seems to have little to no problems with this since used them for years before.The yamha will be sold cheap to get rid of it.
Thank you! I was testing my 3.5 envinrude, which is a Tohatsu 3.5, it seems, and no water was coming out of the tell tale (I also learned from another video of yours that it is just a tell tale, not all of the water comes out of there). I was thinking I had a problem in cooling system but it was just the water level that was too low. Saved the day!
I learn so much from your tutorials boss ;-) Love it.
Greeatings from Norway.
Thanks mate! :)
Great information about things that appeared like only a Factory trained Mechanic could do. Your video presentation is straightforward And demystified. Thanks M8, you're Awesome, And you saved me a lot of money. Fair dinkums..
You're welcome. :)
Your the man I did what you said to see if the new water pump worked after putting it into a bucket or large garbage can. I did just that and now the water is peeing out of the piss tube Thank You very much. A++++
THE VIDEOS ARE VERY EDUCATIVE TO US MARINERS
Thanks George, glad they are helping you. :)
I wonder how it ever worked in the tank before we have used or for that matter in the seal? I could not make the pump work using the drill until the water was right below the pump as you explain. But normally we have had it in a tank with much lower level. So my question is how does it work when its in the sea and ihe water level is not that high?
your videos have shown and taught me so much, in the past I would've taken it to the marine shop for simple things, and for that I'd just like to say thank you!
Thanks mate, glad the videos have got you working on your own motors more. :)
Thanks for taking the time to teach and explain things so well!
Excellent instructor
I always appreciate thanks your lectures
I might end up sleeping tonight after watching this video , must try tonight , thank you !
thanks. this video adding my knowledge about water pump in outboard motor. thank you.
You're welcome, I'm glad the information has helped you.
thanks I think you saved me replacing a water pump
Hey cobber. Brand new housing, impeller and still not pumping is it I've put something together wrong although I've done it twice going off a few different videos..
I guess I'm really asking is there anything under the pump housing that could be blocking access to the pump. Everything else works and runs perfectly. 1980-90's Yamaha 8hp 2st
Love ya videos so far this old outboard has been a pain in the arse and I can't afford a real mechanic.
Your carby video is what really got it going when no one could. It has been parked up in a shed for about 7 years and never used so I figured there'd be some gremlins.
Thanks again cobber priceless information.
Saved me at least 100 bucks today thanks 👊
Great info, simple and informative. Thank You!!
Thank you for two great videos concerning the water pump. I think I might have a ''false negative' ... Will test with the proper water level ...
Good luck!
That was it ! Going back to the water now. Many many thanks .
@@DangarMarine It was the problem indeed !
Love this guys channel
I am in the middle of servicing my Mariner 3.3 HP 2 stroke. I came back inside for information about the water tube connecting the water pump to the power head. I came across your video and paused it after I saw what you did to check the pump using a cordless drill. Brilliant idea Thanks. I did the test like you did and it is ok, my question is: WHERE is the water tube? I did not find any in mine and when I thought to measure and make one, there is no port or anything to connect the tube to. do these outboard have water tube or this is how they are designed with out a water tube. any feed back would be appreciated. and Thanks for the video
I did the same wrong thing that u show at the beginning of the video. Cant wait to get a bigger bucket 🪣 🙏
Thank you so much for all the information you provide, you are a true blessing to all us boaters :)
Thanks William!
Well i pulled the lower unit and replaced the water pump and guess what....It works, thanks again!
Great stuff Stu - saved me a bunch of panic - thought I had munted my brand new outboard but this explains why !
Hi fantastic video. i have a 2000 model Johnson outboard 25hp it had a new Impeller kit fitted by a marine mechanic we brought the boat get home put it in water no water out pee hole i blew in it it seems clear. got me stumped
Thanks mate. If it is still giving you trouble this video might give you some more ideas. th-cam.com/video/dx8_xP30aSY/w-d-xo.html
Hi fixed pumping problem the new impeller was shredded, but i have another problem when engine is running it sounds like its sneezing so to speak like a misfire any help appreciated
Such a simple concept can mislead you if hey.....thanks Stu
Welcome Nick. :)
Your videos always help me out thanks heaps dude
You're welcome mate. :)
@@DangarMarine
I have a good question
I tend to come across alot of older outboards
My current resto being a 73 evinrude runs beautifully however
I've noticed none seem to have a kill switch/lanyard
I know its fairly easy to wire one up but I'm curious did the older control boxes come with separate unit for start stop
I assume switches were just wired to dash back in the days
@@DangarMarine
Sorry the question is
Does the factory loom already have a kill switch I've found start wire and one moves a vacuum looking actuator thing others are unknown
That's a new one to me . Thanks for the phenomenally great informative vids
Thank you my friend very very much you save me a lot of headache
God bless you love you from Jerusalem the capital of Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
Thank you. You just saved me a lot of money.
You're welcome, great to hear that. :)
Thank you so much by doing this it's working for me.
Love the Chanel No telling how much time and money this guy has saved me. I have a question? I have a 89 60hp evinrude I have bought back to life. When it’s in water and staring for the first time it makes a sucking sound. Could this just be the water pump priming? That’s the only time it does it. The motor runs with no issues and is not hard to start. Thanks in advance
Answer to my problem, thanks brother will try tomorrow
You were actually turning the shaft counter-clockwise on the first attempt!!
Wow!
So is there an quick way of knowing if one's drive shaft is a clockwise or a counter-clockwise?
Thanks so much for the vid Stu. I've just done a new water pump impeller and housing on my '78 115hp chrysler, muffs showed no water today and was not looking forward to removing the leg again. Gives me a thing to check tomorrow.
I'd try immersing the leg in a deep tub of water, it is much more reliable that muffs.
Dangar Marine I had a big(140ltr) bunnings tub yesterday filled it, the motor backfired and instantly blew the back of the tub out. Trying round two with a proper stainless tub tonight. Learning soooo much from your channel Dangar Stu cheers.
200lt plastic barrel worked a treat. Flushed out a fair bit of sand too, has no thermostat and couldn't get it to temp to idle. But hey it pumps a really good amount of water now.. So thanks again for your very informative videos, being boats are new to me but seeing it done make all the difference.
Great video very very help full
just wondering what you do if you get some of the impeller up the pipe will it work itself out ?
best ever videos on youtube thanks
Thanks mate, glad you like them. :)