I was at the show at the Filmore in Detroit April 5, 2019. It was one of just 8 US dates. Absolutely a great show. Been a Mott fan since 1972 and have all their recordings. Great to see a bunch of old guys still bang it out.
I didn't go to any of this Summer's Mott gigs. But from what I've seen here on TH-cam - imho - Luther Grosvenor didn't strike me as someone who could remember what he'd played back in the day, or that he'd bothered to re-learn what he'd forgotten. I couldn't see (or hear) any real musicianship to speak of, on his part, just some leaping around. I've been a fan of Ian Hunter and MTH since 1972, and later, the Rant Band, and seen a lot of their gigs down the years. What was telling for me was that, contrary to just about every one of those gigs, none of the other players (particularly Jim Mastro, who normally can't keep the smile off his face) seemed to be really enjoying themselves. Having been to some blistering MTH and Rant Band gigs (notably at the Barbican, London, 3rd May 2010, and Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, 11th November 2016), this performance doesn’t come close. Musicians need to be connected on many levels to play together well, but imho it’s pretty plain to see that Grosvenor didn’t fit in with the other players, and it seemed to me that the chemistry the band needed to produce a really cracking performance, just wasn’t there.
Good to see and hear these oldies once again, Honaloochie Boogie was my first real (paid for with my paper round money) singles purchase all those years ago, fond memories, have followed Mott The Hoople et al since then. Never did get to see them live though TH-cam is providing us all an opportunity to film and distribute locally, so am not complaining :) Rock on Mott the Hoople!
The amazing Ariel Bender (Luther Grosvenor) - still a total rock n' roll star. Please take this on tour I think a lot of people would love to see this....
Hey all the young dudes... Respect gentlemen... Great band. They had some good stuff for sure but the competition from the rest of the British Invasion more or less overshadowed them... But what a time to have been in the music scene as a rock band.
We all have our favorites. 2 songs from Mad Shadows are my favorites: No Wheels to Ride, and I Can Feel (I like this even more than All the Young Dudes). But they lost their signature organ sound after Verden left, then 'Mott' was really good, but Mick left. And 'The Hoople' sucks except for Marionette. Too bad, they fell apart just when they hot it big. (The follow-up group Mott is actually a really good band. Overend's time to shine, and Morgan's brilliance on piano brought a new sound. It is really a differnt band and now totally dismissed, which is too bad , because MTH's worst LPs are 'The Hoople' and 'Live.')
I don’t understand the backlash to this Mott The Hoople partial-reunion tour. They haven’t toured the States in 45 years, and Ian, merely a few months shy of becoming a octogenarian, still sounds as riveting and wonderful as ever, as do Morgan Fisher and Ariel Bender/Luther Grosvenor. The complaints about Luther/Ariel are pretty undeserved, especially considering that his stage antics and performance are nearly on par with what he did on the ‘74 tour.
Luther sure is painful to listen to & infuriating to watch trying desperately to upstage Ian, totally disrespectful of Ian’s glorious songs & legacy. Ian & the Rant Band + the excellent Morgan are clearly ignoring him as best they can. What a wonderful, magical band they used to be.
David Sleger - yep exactly right David. Saw them at Ramblin’ Man Festival 2 nights ago - Ian was fantastic & the band were pretty good. Morgan was great. Luther was just nonsense, wandering aimlessly around the stage annoying the guys in the band, often darting around like someone’s deranged granny. He didn’t play most of the songs as he clearly hadn’t learned or remembered how to play them, just ducking in & out to play a simple riff or a few chords or a dodgy lick. One or two songs he just stood off stage. Ian almost totally ignored him, his pathetic antics & making silly squwaky noises with a guitar. Ian just got on with the job. Been a fan forever, some of the wonderful songs were soundtracks to our lives & it’s crazy to see them thrown away or disrespected.
This is merely a shell of a once great band.If it sounded like this to begin with they never would have made it.Its painful to watch after looking at the real vids from the early seventies.Dusty old rock and roll.It sounds flat and tired now.Should just call it a day at this point.
Bender is nothing,Mick Ralphs should have been there instead of that jerk.as somebody said he.s playing at Ian,s expense ,and not good at all the 2 rant guitarists are a lot better.a lot of his arm jesters don,t even match the music,plus he,s not even using a pick,
The amazing Ariel Bender (Luther Grosvenor) - still a total rock n' roll star. Please take this on tour I think a lot of people would love to see this....
Andrew Gardner Like you and Drew about youth out of the bed that especially Euge fan of Ariel Bender… But that said did this guy forget how to play fucking guitar? really he could barely play, the other guy is Handeling 95% of all the guitar work, half the time Ariel‘s lip syncing or whatever you want to call it… Please please please Ariel practice practice practice you were/are one of my heroes brother....
Hi Danni - think his guitar is well down in the mix - I'm hearing it from a few different sources and the guitar is clearer on other uploads. 3 rehearsals then this gig. I'm sure it will only get better -Certainly got the hairs on the back of my neck standing up. He's a perfect visual foil for Ian Hunter.. Such a shame it ended as it did in ' 74...
I was at the show at the Filmore in Detroit April 5, 2019. It was one of just 8 US dates. Absolutely a great show. Been a Mott fan since 1972 and have all their recordings. Great to see a bunch of old guys still bang it out.
I didn't go to any of this Summer's Mott gigs. But from what I've seen here on TH-cam - imho - Luther Grosvenor didn't strike me as someone who could remember what he'd played back in the day, or that he'd bothered to re-learn what he'd forgotten. I couldn't see (or hear) any real musicianship to speak of, on his part, just some leaping around. I've been a fan of Ian Hunter and MTH since 1972, and later, the Rant Band, and seen a lot of their gigs down the years. What was telling for me was that, contrary to just about every one of those gigs, none of the other players (particularly Jim Mastro, who normally can't keep the smile off his face) seemed to be really enjoying themselves.
Having been to some blistering MTH and Rant Band gigs (notably at the Barbican, London, 3rd May 2010, and Shepherd’s Bush Empire, London, 11th November 2016), this performance doesn’t come close.
Musicians need to be connected on many levels to play together well, but imho it’s pretty plain to see that Grosvenor didn’t fit in with the other players, and it seemed to me that the chemistry the band needed to produce a really cracking performance, just wasn’t there.
too right its awful and benders lame fucking about and sloppy ad lib playing is dreadful.he is not mott on his own
Good to see and hear these oldies once again, Honaloochie Boogie was my first real (paid for with my paper round money) singles purchase all those years ago, fond memories, have followed Mott The Hoople et al since then. Never did get to see them live though TH-cam is providing us all an opportunity to film and distribute locally, so am not complaining :) Rock on Mott the Hoople!
Saw them back in 1973 at St George’s Hall, Bradford, Ariel Bender was the ultimate show off guitarist, brilliant, still is by the look of it!
My fave song when I was 8! I asked for it to be played over and over again.
The amazing Ariel Bender (Luther Grosvenor) - still a total rock n' roll star. Please take this on tour I think a lot of people would love to see this....
Andrew Gardner - train wreck.
Ariel is just wonderful
Andrew Gardner he's a simply awful player. His solos are excrement.
Flike - nice that you consider yourself the (only) judge of his playing; as if...
Luther can't be killed by Conventional Weaponry!!
Morgan Fisher. As tasteful as ever.
Still a great band after all these years.
Thank You!
So great to see Ariel Bender with Ian and Morgan Fisher.
Be wonderful if they did a UK tour.
Great Band Yes 😜. Ian Hunter is king. Arial bender is a Rock Star ❤
Adriel Bender seems to be having fun at the expense of Ian Hunter!
Gorgeous version of “Rest in Peace” - Morgan....amazing!
Hey all the young dudes... Respect gentlemen... Great band. They had some good stuff for sure but the competition from the rest of the British Invasion more or less overshadowed them... But what a time to have been in the music scene as a rock band.
"I get my kicks from guitar licks"\
BTW is that Morgan Fisher on key boards?
Rest In Peace always brings a tear to my eye
Live and die for Mott but not this crap...Im a dude dad ....forever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come to SC USA
We all have our favorites. 2 songs from Mad Shadows are my favorites: No Wheels to Ride, and I Can Feel (I like this even more than All the Young Dudes). But they lost their signature organ sound after Verden left, then 'Mott' was really good, but Mick left. And 'The Hoople' sucks except for Marionette. Too bad, they fell apart just when they hot it big. (The follow-up group Mott is actually a really good band. Overend's time to shine, and Morgan's brilliance on piano brought a new sound. It is really a differnt band and now totally dismissed, which is too bad , because MTH's worst LPs are 'The Hoople' and 'Live.')
Great Piano Morgan.
Morgan is a top guy !!
Please bring this to the States!
come to Florida !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess I need a hat, I got the shades.
I don’t understand the backlash to this Mott The Hoople partial-reunion tour. They haven’t toured the States in 45 years, and Ian, merely a few months shy of becoming a octogenarian, still sounds as riveting and wonderful as ever, as do Morgan Fisher and Ariel Bender/Luther Grosvenor. The complaints about Luther/Ariel are pretty undeserved, especially considering that his stage antics and performance are nearly on par with what he did on the ‘74 tour.
Anybody have any live footage of them performing Alice?
Daniel Krash..Download Mott at the Beacon theatre, NYC...I think Alice is in it
What a great song! Deep cut gem.
I'm a bit embarrassed watching Ariel Bender.Hope he doesn't act like this when they tour in April.
Luther sure is painful to listen to & infuriating to watch trying desperately to upstage Ian, totally disrespectful of Ian’s glorious songs & legacy. Ian & the Rant Band + the excellent Morgan are clearly ignoring him as best they can. What a wonderful, magical band they used to be.
there is some truth to your comment but they knew exactly what they were getting with Luther on board. He was the same in '74
Kudos to Ian for pulling this together.
David Sleger - yep exactly right David. Saw them at Ramblin’ Man Festival 2 nights ago - Ian was fantastic & the band were pretty good. Morgan was great. Luther was just nonsense, wandering aimlessly around the stage annoying the guys in the band, often darting around like someone’s deranged granny. He didn’t play most of the songs as he clearly hadn’t learned or remembered how to play them, just ducking in & out to play a simple riff or a few chords or a dodgy lick. One or two songs he just stood off stage. Ian almost totally ignored him, his pathetic antics & making silly squwaky noises with a guitar. Ian just got on with the job. Been a fan forever, some of the wonderful songs were soundtracks to our lives & it’s crazy to see them thrown away or disrespected.
@@davidsleger5824 he wasn't this bad in 74.
vinyl was vastly better than this disappointment. Still love Ian Hunter...
This is merely a shell of a once great band.If it sounded like this to begin with they never would have made it.Its painful to watch after looking at the real vids from the early seventies.Dusty old rock and roll.It sounds flat and tired now.Should just call it a day at this point.
The real vids from the early seventies were recorded by professional cameras and great mics not by public smartphones.
Ian Hunter is 79. Call us when you're 79, lets know what you're doing.
Bender is nothing,Mick Ralphs should have been there instead of that jerk.as somebody said he.s playing at Ian,s expense ,and not good at all the 2 rant guitarists are a lot better.a lot of his arm jesters don,t even match the music,plus he,s not even using a pick,
Johnny Stieferman Mick Ralphs is in bad health, i dont get why Bender is here, he adds nothing, Morgan is great though
This is absolutely terrible, of course they were never any good to begin with.
The amazing Ariel Bender (Luther Grosvenor) - still a total rock n' roll star. Please take this on tour I think a lot of people would love to see this....
Andrew Gardner Like you and Drew about youth out of the bed that especially Euge fan of Ariel Bender… But that said did this guy forget how to play fucking guitar? really he could barely play, the other guy is Handeling 95% of all the guitar work, half the time Ariel‘s lip syncing or whatever you want to call it… Please please please Ariel practice practice practice you were/are one of my heroes brother....
Lets see what you can do when you reach their age.
Fair enough, but c’mon, a little practice goes along way.... by the way Morgan and Ian. were doing just fine as was everyone else.
Hi Danni - think his guitar is well down in the mix - I'm hearing it from a few different sources and the guitar is clearer on other uploads. 3 rehearsals then this gig. I'm sure it will only get better -Certainly got the hairs on the back of my neck standing up. He's a perfect visual foil for Ian Hunter.. Such a shame it ended as it did in '
74...
I agree with you 100 percent!!! Now isn’t that the way disagreements can be handled without bloodshed or foul Behavior!