@@オートファン The NZ engines are actually not South African engines at all, apart from one single class of engine. NZ engines started out as British built ones by Baldwin, a competitor of Stephenson in the famous trials. It was he that actually first laid our original route, and some 040 and 060 engines, two each of which are still in running condition, and can be seen on excursions today, 200 years after construction. NZ started designing and building our own engines, starting with the AB class, which were first made during WW1. This engine was one of two final classes totally NZ designed and constructed in the 1930's. The other class, of course, being the Ka class. The biggest engines to ever operate on NZ rails, and it is these two classes that first had the Baker valve gear from the US, in a rare technological exchange. The Ka class was first built in 1940, incidentally at the same time the Big Boy was being built, after a Garratt articulated locomotive was brought here from South Africa to test if the class could operate in NZ, especially over the Raurimu Spiral. This section of the main trunk line needed three engines to haul trains over at that time, and sometimes as much as five in slippery conditions. The Garratt turned out to be a total failure here, and so the Ka class was first mooted, which when built could haul trains over the Spiral with one engine in any weather condition, with volcanic and cyclone conditions being the exceptions.
No, these were strong enough to haul trains with no issues. The Ka class, by comparison, were initially built to handle the Raurimu Spiral, which is why they are far larger locomotives. No locomotive until this class could handle that part of the mainline without extra locomotives stationed at that section of the line.
The J class locomotives were built by North British Railway works and used as multipurpose freight and passenger hauling in NZ from the 1940s. Several derivatives were built however only 3 exist today, this one is called Joanne and from what I remember sometimes operates excursion runs down the country
Alex Travis They do not fit to the age of the steam locomotive. (Very modern, one would expect such windows on modern high speed trains, not behind the steam engine).
@@railfilm They're not intended to fit the loco, heritage carriages don't just spring up from nowhere. Purchasing these and tidying them up gave them a presentable fleet to use for excursions. For a heritage focus, you look to Steam Incorporated - who operate similar era locos and have a large heritage carriage fleet.
Believe it or not, those passenger cars are roughly the same age as the locomotive. They operated in various refurbished forms on many NZ routes for 60+ years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_56-foot_carriage
The engine you are referring to is an NZR Ka Class locomotive which is a different class of locomotive as the steam locomotive in this video. As this one is an Ex-NZR J Class locomotive and this one was converted to an oil burner from a coal burner in preservation to complete the entire J class family tree.
@@gamerfan8445 Algd, no need to apologise. They are of a similar size but a good trick to remember about the two classes is a J/Ja/Jb have a Vanderbilt tender which is the one you see hear and a K/Ka/Kb have a square, boxy tender.
I love New Zealand
I used to fire the J from Greymouth to Otira and return , love to go back and do it all again .
What a fine engine. I never thought i would see a non American locomotive with Baker valve gear.
It sure is fine!
to be exact those *ARE* the few locomotives outside the usa to ever use one of these
@@timlilijinsheng4070 The Steam Trains in New Zealand Are South Africa Trains.
@@オートファン Same gauge, no problem I guess...
@@オートファン The NZ engines are actually not South African engines at all, apart from one single class of engine.
NZ engines started out as British built ones by Baldwin, a competitor of Stephenson in the famous trials. It was he that actually first laid our original route, and some 040 and 060 engines, two each of which are still in running condition, and can be seen on excursions today, 200 years after construction. NZ started designing and building our own engines, starting with the AB class, which were first made during WW1.
This engine was one of two final classes totally NZ designed and constructed in the 1930's. The other class, of course, being the Ka class. The biggest engines to ever operate on NZ rails, and it is these two classes that first had the Baker valve gear from the US, in a rare technological exchange.
The Ka class was first built in 1940, incidentally at the same time the Big Boy was being built, after a Garratt articulated locomotive was brought here from South Africa to test if the class could operate in NZ, especially over the Raurimu Spiral.
This section of the main trunk line needed three engines to haul trains over at that time, and sometimes as much as five in slippery conditions.
The Garratt turned out to be a total failure here, and so the Ka class was first mooted, which when built could haul trains over the Spiral with one engine in any weather condition, with volcanic and cyclone conditions being the exceptions.
I'm from New Zealand so I can go see the steam train
Really are the final development in NZ in house design, pity we didn't see some fitted with larger d/wheels for the South Island East coast.
No, these were strong enough to haul trains with no issues.
The Ka class, by comparison, were initially built to handle the Raurimu Spiral, which is why they are far larger locomotives.
No locomotive until this class could handle that part of the mainline without extra locomotives stationed at that section of the line.
Nothing against the other carriages I’ve seen but those midnight blue aos look great paired with steam
I didn't know New Zealand had steam locomotives, I legitimately had no idea
Well.. search up the Tangiwai train disaster
majority of countries have steam locos
Some types were built in Glasgow.
It does, A lot of steam trains existed at New Zealand (I'm pretty sure)
Not In use New Zealand has the 2nd largest steam preservation movement in the world.
You might tell us something? Who built the loco? When? Where is it based? Where was it going to? Etc. . . Nice scenery though and a lovely loco.
The J class locomotives were built by North British Railway works and used as multipurpose freight and passenger hauling in NZ from the 1940s. Several derivatives were built however only 3 exist today, this one is called Joanne and from what I remember sometimes operates excursion runs down the country
Thank you!
Ikr
Their j1211 around as well
@@davidbolton4930 Yeah. Most of the time, J1211 is in her streamlined form, and is amazing to see.
ben hem onderweg wel eens tegengekomen
R.I.P #949 though...
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@@zenianlifeform Fiddle diddle. :3
@@ConorDaRobin.
@@zenianlifeform What?
@@ConorDaRobin Nothing.
I can imagine hearing the ka classes saying: sister I’m sorry you died I wish I can spend time with you are you still with me?
I still don't understand why New Zealand steamers have short tenders
thanks
Thanks i guess?
Me to I am from New Zealand
The tender looks really nice
ikr
Does this steam train still run
Yes, It still runs in heck
Except the terrible windows on the cars it is a very nice train, and well done video!
whats terrible about the windows?
Alex Travis
They do not fit to the age of the steam locomotive. (Very modern, one would expect such windows on modern high speed trains, not behind the steam engine).
@@railfilm They're not intended to fit the loco, heritage carriages don't just spring up from nowhere. Purchasing these and tidying them up gave them a presentable fleet to use for excursions. For a heritage focus, you look to Steam Incorporated - who operate similar era locos and have a large heritage carriage fleet.
Believe it or not, those passenger cars are roughly the same age as the locomotive. They operated in various refurbished forms on many NZ routes for 60+ years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZR_56-foot_carriage
Fine i accept your opinion.
She looks a lot like her older brother, 949.
ikr
but they are different classes, size and wheel arrangement. they are the same colour though.
Not really this is a ja class locomotives and the 949 was a ka locomotive👍
I love trains and wen grow up I will be a train drive
"I love locomotives! And when i grow up i want to be a train driver."
Awww the depression because they won't reply!
Looks like The Tangiwai
Its acyually a jb class
Only converted to a Jb but is a J locomotive itself, no Jb locos were saved.
big brain
i find out of this class by one of them got into a big crash on chismas day
The engine you are referring to is an NZR Ka Class locomotive which is a different class of locomotive as the steam locomotive in this video. As this one is an Ex-NZR J Class locomotive and this one was converted to an oil burner from a coal burner in preservation to complete the entire J class family tree.
MikeThe12th oh. Sorry they look the same
@@gamerfan8445 Algd, no need to apologise. They are of a similar size but a good trick to remember about the two classes is a J/Ja/Jb have a Vanderbilt tender which is the one you see hear and a K/Ka/Kb have a square, boxy tender.
Okay.
It was a ka class 949 in New Zealand
You know NZ is small when the tender is the size of a mini van.😂
Every country has its individual needs.
It this narrow gauge
New Zealand's rail system uses a narrow gauge of 1067mm (3ft 6in).
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@@heathloveridge3668 Cape gauge is a 3ft 6inch compared to standard gauge being 4ft 8 and a half inch
I am sorry for saying no because of the gauge I didn't know so now I know 😅
NZ uses cape gauge (1067 mm / 3 foot, 6 inch)
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