Sharpening Plane Blades and Chisels - A woodworkweb.com video
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There are MANY different variables when it comes to sharpening blades like chisels and plane blades, this video is only one of the many ways, but it is what I like best because it is fairly easy, not too costly and gives excellent, repeatable results, but lets hear from many others who also have tried and true ways of sharpening.
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Thanks for taking this subject on Colin, it is not well understood by a lot of us wood workers and it just needs to be demystified.
Derek
Hi James, I am going to agree with your comment, because in many instances you are correct. There are a few systems were apparently the stones should be paralleled in order to get blades ground evenly, but I also wonder just how important this really is in the end.
Thanks for you comment, great to have experienced people like yourself with us and actively participating.
Colin
Hi Robert, from my experience, you can do either. I like to go in circles but I also go back and forth sometimes to get the best use our of the abrasive paper I am using.
Thanks Steve for taking the time to comment :)
Colin
Hi Mikael, my blades are in pretty good shape now for being sharp so I normally only need to give them a light sharpening to get them really sharp, so often I am using a 5000 grit.
If I get a nick in the blade, I might have to go down to a 1000 grit, then to a 2000 and then to the 5000
Thanks for asking, this will also help others with similar questions, great to have you with us
Colin
Very good point James, appreciate you taking the time to post this, I'm sure others will learn from it too :)
Colin
Love your videos. You should use the with gauge to center the plane iron on the Mk II
Good stuff, lots of good information, and a good presentation. Thank you.
I just bought that jig you use and love it. I can put a great micro bevel on my iron, as well as a back bevel. Doing the back bevel creates a burr on the micro bevel though. Does it mess up the micro bevel just doing a quick swipe or two on fine grit sandpaper to dislodge that burr? Should I make one burr before the other?
+woodwork web,any chance u could demonstrate the technique of sharpening chisels/plane blades with & wirhout the roller on a sharpening stone please,is it a figure 8 motion?,i remember seeing my dad doing this as a kid but am unsure & would like to sharpen the chisels & planes that i inherited when my parents passed away several years ago & do it properly.
Thanks for this video. I consider the Veritas honing guide a must own. It gives consistent and excellent results every time.
Hi James ... yup, couldn't agree more with you. Thanks for posting
Colin
Thanks, I love your video they help me out often.
much helpful.thanks god bless you
Thanks Colin. I think I’ll do the paper/glass system as opposed to the MPower system. Looks like I can kill two stones with one bird that way.
Nince instructable, you gain a subscriber. Love the idea of the glass. :)
have you ever used the home hardware honing guide? its supposed to set the correct angel for wood chisels and wood plane blades it works on a oil stone just wondering if they were good or not
Thank you very much .
what type and grit sandpaper do you use?
It is interesting to see how you are grinding incircles. Is that really the preferred way? It seems to me that there might be a risk of wiggling with the guide and blade, thus not securing a perfectly staight edge. After all the roller indicates to me that the honing guide should be moved back and forth. That is also what is suggested in the User Manual that comes with the guide and also is shown on Veritas own TH-cam channel.
I'd be very interested to know what advantage it is to use your technique.
what would be the purpose of the small back cut? ive always wondered if anyone does that
I am new to this I bought stones and I have the glass and paper my question to you is do I have to go in circles or back and forth rolling on the bottom wheel? In the video you go in the circle-er motion is that better?
Very informative. Thanks Colon.
You're Welcome!
amazing presentation and explanation
Thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
typically how many grits do you use to sharpen a single chissel and what micron
Thanks
All great tips.. Subbed and thumbed..
I Have been working with metric does a circle have a thousand degrees?
Thanks for your help
kefah majeed Thank you for taking a moment to comment
FWIW, more or less for plane blades. There is an optional part for this tool for chisels.
I've never sharpen a chisel I'm ashamed to say; mine are disgraceful, but I'm remedying that now. However, I do have one question; I noticed you had the wheel on the glass which is actually a lower surface than is the paper. Does not that throw off your determined angle? Should not the roller be at the same level as the abrasive surface, or does is not matter. Conversely, could you achieve the "micro bevel" by putting a slip of paper under the roller? Just asking because I don't know. Thank you for the information.
The difference is negligible, it would be more of a problem if ran the roller on & off the paper since you add facets to the edge. I keep the roller on the paper so I can use the sheet surface because it wears down & loses grit. I also I use diamond plates & always keep the roller on the them so follow suit on paper for grits below 220 & over 1200.
Nice video. You didn't want to plug Lee Valley but I will. And I have nothing to do with them commercially. I own that very same Veritas honing jig and I think the results it produces are almost magical. The secondary bevel it hones is a wonderful feature. Just the jig in brass and black itself is a pleasure to look at, and it feels like it looks...solid. I agree with you, it's worth every cent. BTW, I also use glass as a surface.
Keith Wilson Hi Keith ... yep, I have to agree with you on everything. As a side note, one of my woodworking buddies picked up one of the Tormek sharpeners a few weeks ago, I always thought they were good, but yikes, after a bit of buffing after the tormek grind, I was astounded at the level of sharpness, and in much less time (also a LOT $$$ to purchase) ... thought you would be interested.
Thanks buddy ... great to have you with us, appreciate your comments
Colin
Keith Wilson Thanks for the info Keith. I was pondering the Veritas, but after watching Colin's video, and then reading your reply, I do believe I'm sold.
Yhank you Sir.🎉
Why do you care if a stone is parallel? As far as I am concerned when you are rolling a jig over the top like a Veritas it just needs to be flat. Maybe I am missing something. Also car windshields are not tempered glass like you mentioned. They are normal glass with plastic in between (safety glass). And finally for anyone using this jig, the instructions say to turn the knob to the 6 o-clock position to do the micro-bevel which is 180 deg off the standard bevel. Not 90 as shown in the video. Thanks for the video.
I bought a Stanley #5. It's made in India and the blade came dull, I think there's a high chance that it is a bad blade.
It's covered in some sort of metal protection coating, should I get rid of that somehow?
when you say "spray the back of the abrasive papers"(about the 12 minute mark) what do you spray the back with?Great video.Thanks in advancePeter
+MOREENGINEERING If the paper is not sticky backed, I use one of the spray adhesives then glue it to a flat surface ... sorry I wasn't clear on that
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work. I wonder what grit you used in the video, when you sharpened the blade?
Exelente como doy con traduccion en español
Carlos Sánchez Thank you Carlos
There are two kinds of abrasive used for abrasive paper, aluminium oxide and silicon carbide(often called 'wet and dry') Aluminium oxide is "blunter" than silicon carbide but is not made in the higher grits.
Thanks William for the info
great video very well explained
mario d.c Thank You Mario :)
your welcome...... being that im a sharpener i have many customers that ask me to sharpen them i wan't to purchase the jig ''but'' the only problem is that the shipping is always as much as the product itself . im from canada i don't know why we have to get screwed like that ?... lets screw north korea lolololol
mario d.c Yes, shipping can be a real bug-bear ...
Never has any one ever told me to bevel the back edge of any tool
Great video. Personally I don't care much for a back bevel. It makes the tip more fragile and wears the edge out a little faster in my humble opinion. Colin, you're a boss, not a knecht ;-) lol
Thanks for Watching!
I agree Veritas is the best, has the most options & is better than other high end jigs that cost more. In this video you make no effort to center the plane blade in the jig with the handy built jig size scale. You have it way off to one side of the roller which can introduce uneven hand pressure & rocking even if held in a recommended manner.
If a tool is sharp enough to use it should be able to shave the hairs on your arm, easily! The secondary bevel should be as small a possible, it is only there to make sharpening easier!
Yes ... I agree :)
...and now I'm craving eggs and grits😀
You are not using that guide like it is supposed to be use
hello were can i buy the grits
Sorry, I don't know what part of the world you live in, so hard for me to say I purchase mine from Lee Valley Tools, but there are many others, probably someone close to you. Try a automotive parts supplier, they often sell fine sanding products :-)
tyvm:)
15 μ 5 μ
I have purchased both the Veritas and the trend sharpening jigs. The Lee Valley Veritas jig is great sharpening and honing as every thing is held rigidly. The Trend giude and setting plate is rubbish. There is so much play in the guide I do not have confidence in its ability to hold a constant angle. I gave the trend guide and plate to a bloke who wants to sharpen chisels for home renovation not fine wood work.
labrat7357 Interesting ... thanks for your review of that tool, I have seen, and it looked pretty good, but never had a chance to use one and you are first person I know who has actually had one, so thanks for giving us your report.
I should have given more detail about the Trend jig. It is a great idea but has been let down by poor quality manufacture of the blade holder. The holes that hold the threaded bar for the grippers are oversized and allows movement when the blade is in place. Also the hole through the roller is also oversized for the size of the shaft introducing even more play in the blade holder.This jig could have been a real winner with better manufacturing quality.
What I am keen to see is the Lie-Nielsen sharpening jig/guide. It has apparently been in development over the last couple of years.