The Husq must have more torque. I was trying to decide between these two for a mill. You just made my decision for me since torque is most important for a mill. Thanks!
Difference between Stihl and Husqavarna, the Stihl runs and stays together. Once owned a Husqavarna, every screw, nut, and bolt vibrated out of the thing. Put loctite on them, the saw kept vibrating apart. Went to the Stihl dealer and have not looked back.
Darrell hi. I have seen more issues with Huskys having loose bolts. I has seen some interesting things in Stihl saws though. I just posted a video with a customers 661 cylinder assembly that had some sort of rubber "thingy" go through it. That was the first time I had seen anything remotely close to this. 660 are/were famous for needing crank bearing due to the poor air filtration system they were fitted with on an oem level. Whereas, 394/395s would rarely need them from debris passage. I know of quite a few logging that went away from Stihl saws because they had breakdown & longevity problems. I've run and own a few different brands. They all have strong and weak points. In an all out power war, the 395 will kick the 660/661 in the rear every time, period. I think blanket statements that one brand over another are interesting personally. In this life, there is always a caveat. Thanks for watching.
Stihl chainsaws are more popular in my country especially on professional use, simply because they are more reliable than Huskies. Some people on the comments said that Stihl is more popular because they have more dealers, but that's not an excuse here, because we live next to Sweden :) Plenty of Husqvarna dealers here.
Our 661 at work is older but it almost has too much power. My 361 is a good and powerful saw but is difficult to access plug, air filter, etc. Probably why they came out with 362. Stihl weedeaters do not compare to Robin but they have gone under. It has been 27 years since I owned a Husky. Back then they were garbage. Bought an 026 and Stihl starts an runs today. Our husky at work sits and is never used.
Many pro's buy Stihl for the simple reason that every town and even most of the very small towns have a Stihl dealer, where you can stop in after work and pick up parts or drop off one of your saws for repairs. That is a big plus for pro fallers. Husqvarna, is good saw no doubt but very few dealerships unless you count home depot or other home centers or hardware stores which might sell them, but do not have a dedicated repairman and a stock of parts for your particular model of saw. Service and parts availability for some of the saws which otherwise would be adequate for this demanding line of work limits their usefulness. When I was young there were many brands of saws working in the woods of the Pacific Northwest where I lived. McCulloch and Homelite were very common, but no more. Currently I own, but seldom use a Husqvarna 3120 XP with 56 inch bar. Stihl 070/090 with a 42 inch bar, A Solo 681, an Efco 81 cc. My Favorite though is a Makita 35cc. It is easy to start and run and lightweight. Those big saws are good when you need something that big, but they are heavy and when you have badly arthritic hands, hard to start even with a big D handle pull start rope.
Bill Wessels it's the opposite for myself, in my area of the Northeast husky is king. Everyone I know runs husky ground saw and stihl climbers (husky toppers are trash). There's little husky shops everywhere, I can't remember the last time I saw a stihl shops that wasn't in a box store.
I live in Georgia, south of ATL. There are definitely more Stihl shops here, but there are enough Husky shops to convince me want to try out their ground saws. I've heard good things. Stihl's new ground saws need carb work after 1 year of ownership with proper care and maintenance. I run a tree service, and I god knows we run these saws hard, but I can't buy 461's and 661's every year. I miss the 066's :(
Way more husky dealers than sthil in my neck of the woods but equal usage of husky and sthils with local crews. My outfit uses husky mostly but a few bucks run sthils. Both are great saws
Much as I'd like the Stihl to win, that 395 definitely has got it beat for pull. It sounded and looked a lot like running an old school pre-emissions gestapo ruined them. I'd be plenty happy with either. As always, excellent work.
I’m a stihl man as far as new saws go for sure. And I love all old chainsaws but old husky beats everything except for maybe a few select homelites and McCulloch I bought a brand new 661 and smashed it 2 weeks later… think I’m going to pick up a nice 395 I love how big husky’s of that generation sound.
Thats a nice piece of land there with a great view. Is this a new GoPro camera you're using? That 395XP is a beast, and the ported ones pull like freight trains. Do you have a preference between i) the 394XP, ii) the early 395XP with the Tillotson carb, and iii) the 395XP with the Walbro carb?
hey, I have owned a new 395 for a short time and absolutely believe it's the very best chainsaw I could get and wouldn't hesitate to get a 3120xp if the opportunity ever came up. What does ported, or insanosised mean? im really happy with how the machine performs stock
Porting is a polishing of the engine ports to enhance flow of gas and air through your engine. This wil result in a stronger and faster running machine, it will have a cooling effect as well, although fuel consumption will rise a bit. To raise the effect, the filter air flow has to be improved too, and you'll need to do the same on the other end, the exhaust needs to be ableto get rid of the larger amount of gasses out of your engine. The result of emptying and adding a port to your exhaust will give you a somewhat louder saw. Leaves us with other kids of work, like for instance the carburator. It can be worked on aswell, to enhance flow. Making more rpm's possible has no use if you don't change out the factory coil, that is often limited to a certain amount of rpm's to an unlimited one. And to withstand all that new power you might also consider canging out bearings and such. Just a short overview of some of the possibilities. Never done any myself, but I have been reading a lot. My saws don't have these upgrades, sadly, because nobody in my area knows how to do 'em, and parts are not easily available... I upgraded by taking an oversized saw, putting an undersized bar and chain on it, and than adding a different ring sprocket with more teeth. This will result in a faster cutting saw/more chain revolutions with the same amount of rpm's Cheers and have a nice day!
That 3120 isn't a high reving saw. I've never run one but years ago my dealer had one and I as kicking it around. He talked me out of it and I bought the 394 which I just converted to a 395. His explanation was if you not in 36" + wood all the time there is no benefit. More torque but lower rpm's. If your running a 42" bar that would be your saw of choice. Next to a 395 in a 24" log it may not be that impressive. Honestly you can run the 395 with a 42" bar as well just run full skip chain. It pulls less wood so it cuts better in wide cuts. Big bars look cool but my experience is they are a pain in the ass to use and get straight cuts with. The weight of the power head always affects the cut. I'm set up for big rounds but without all the machines I have it's easier/cheaper to let the big stuff lay. That's a observation after 50 years of cutting.
DragonCanoe71 hi. Longevity, to a large degree from my perspective anyway, is operator related. Specifically, the maintenance habits, the mix oil choice, condition of the chain/s, and proper jetting for the locale and especially the chains. A little bit of my experience with psycho level saws is a follows: 6.5 to 7 million board feet cut over a 7 year time span with one of my 390s - all original, down to the plastics. Over a five year period (5+ million), I wore out four 372 bottom ends with a big bore topend I made myself in '01. Both were what I would call the standard psycho zipkit of today. Heavily modified, reshaped combustion chambers, etc., etc. Some would suggest that a modded saw has longevity issues. I don't necessarily agree that a zipped saw/s doesn't last as long.All that being said, many dragsters never make it off the line. Modifying mechanical things sometimes = failures.
The saw can be pretty well used at the end of the warranty depending on the guy operating it and if it is a "homeowner" purchase - that time frame is a year. I'm pretty picky about zipping a used saw. It would depend on just how used we were talking about. It would have to go through my "33-point safety inspection" and "pass with flying colors". The mix oil used will be a factor in the wear aspect, since, not all oils are created equally - not even close. Thanks.
Whatever shows up. ms241 might be the smallest so far. I have a Husky 136 that is pristine and have been contemplating putting the hurt on it. All those new stratified saws need help. Please shoot me an email if you are interested. Thanks for watching.
Matthew Cayenne - Jack did a 241c for me and I'm well pleased with it ... it sports a 16" bar with sqr/sqr ps 63 chain ... anything 14" and under gets the 241c treatment ... have about 40 tanks of fuel thru it and STIHL running well ...
Matthew Cayenne -- if you google "ported 241c" I have a few vids with yours truly as the operator ... I spoke with Jack at length and also had several emails back and forth ... I gave him my word I wouldn't post his "methods" but I couldn't resist taking off the jug for a look-see ... top - notch work from a top notch fella !!!
Mohdrafiee Mohdrafieederahman I respect your opinion but I had a 2014 model 372xp and I didn’t really like it compared to my 461, my 461 is just so authoritative. Even with a 36”, I like low end torque vs high rpm, just love the stock performance with the dual port. Saving my piggy bank to send it to jack, honored he returned my call one time back in 2016
Nick hi. The tips can pop off on the Stihl, and some other saws as well, design and obliterate the topend. Most guys seem to want then off also. Thanks for watching.
This comment comes at 4:04 , hooking up husky , I saw a spark when you had the stihl at bottom of its cut , so chain will be a little bit duller , but the husky will still beet the stihl
Equal opportunity offenders around here. "Have tools, can change things". There are videos of Dolmars and Makitas scattered through this channels" timeline. Thanks for watching.
Joe Pesci I used to have 3 wild things. Best ever. You could put them in a burlap sack and they would hold your boat over a fishing hole in a hard wind.
Since ....IMHO...The bigger saws arent that critical for crosscutting, it would be nice to see a comparison using the same bar length with the two saws on a Grandberg Alaskan chain saw mill...Using a 404 size ripping chain... I think that is the biggest demand for these large saws..
c dawg hi. Unless you are on the west coast. A lot of guys fell relatively large diameter trees regularly. And, a lot of the same guys bushel. So having more power is always a plus. Doing a comparison in a milling application the out come would be the same, 395 whooping up on a 660/661. Provided, all things are do equally. Thanks for watching.
I’m starting to grow my one-man tree business and I’m looking at the 661 and the 395 as options for the big stuff. They both seem to pound out the work. What do y’all think? Do you imagine either of them will do good in the long run?
I ran a 395 for 6 seasons of falling timber in eastern washington. Cutting nothing but 3-6' pines and doug firs all day long. I ran a 661 for 3 seasons before it blew up cutting on a salvage sale. The 395 was far more durable and had alot more low end grunt. 395 is a bit heavier, but they are powerful saws. You will get your moneys worth out of the 395.
Evening Jack, interesting that the "old" 395 allowing for the larger displacement gives a saw with more "grunt" It really comes down to what you are cutting and how you want to cut it I suppose ?I'll drop you a mail later !
Zack Renaud Zac hi. My email is in the description area of my latest videos. But just in case, danger_cat@rocketmail.com Please shoot me an email and we can get the process started. Thanks for watching.
Ok, let's stop pissing around with softwood. Australian native eucalyptus, oh, let's try Red Gum, say 36"+ diameter, with a 24" bar on both, so you HAVE to double cut. 3/8" .058" standard config chain. Fell then block the trunk when it's green. See ya 661! Never been outworked by a 661 with my 395, pre-EPA. Not ported, just tuned properly.
Lol at talking about Aussie hardwoods and then mentioning redgum. Green redgum is on a par with US trees I'd reckon. For real cutting it needs to be dry ironbark or greybox. I always look forward to cutting redgum as it's such easy cutting in comparison.
Check your Janka scale. And try cutting green river Red gum. I've cut plenty of old Ironbark, Qld redgum and fallen river redgum. Green anything is easier than fallen and aged, however, check your Janka scale to compare North American timber.
Why put stihl guide bar on Husqvarna when husqvarna has their own guide bars?! just don't understand why do you people put guide bars from diffrent companies?!
Duje hi. Because the saw test comparison is as fair as it is going to get when I run the exact same bar and chain on both saws. I cannot speak for the others. Thanks for watching.
Stevie would be very upset knowing that thee ol stihl just ain't got what the huskys have....I'm 5'10" 135 lbs and dying to get a 3120 to try n pack around...just to see how bad it is...to me I'll pack the weight just to have the power...
Got a fake 660 out of china. Came with ported muffler no EPA shit on it. Put a 28" bar skip tooth chain. And she out cut them both. For 1/2 the $ ben running her hard for 3 yrs now. Not one problem
Tell me why is that saw cutting so slow through soft wood y'all need to learn how to sharpen saw when you do it 5 times a day in the woods you learnt real quick
Hi.We test all big saws up here in Canada.The stihl 661 is a computerised saw you mess withit the computyor can not work proper.The husky 395 boat acnhour can be modified yes as it is old school.I had 3 of them modified to the blow up point..Everybody thinks they can mess with computors and still modify,well you can not.No different than your car.We have proven time and time again that the stock 661 will out cut most modified huskys.the reason being if not screwed with the computor will adjust carb settings automaticly.Try to adjust or tune your carb while in a cut with the 395.Trying to modify a 661 only brings failure.By trying to modify the stihl you have pretty much destroyed it.i get lots of guys coming to myshop that said the saw was find until Joe blow think he knows it all did a bunch of modifiying. and now it does not work.Well a piston and cylinder and a muffler and labour will only cost about 800.00 to make it right again.Luck Mcbain.
I'll take Stihl anyday over Husqvarna,Stihl is just a more durable saw in my opinion. Husqvarna saw perform well but I can tell you from repairing saws for more than 25 years that the Husqvarna is more difficult and more expensive to repair. I myself will not own a Husqvarna.
Same. Older Husqvarna's were reliable saw's, but the built quality on the newer ones is not the same anymore and some of the Husky models have reliability issues. I've been using Stihl Ms250 and 251 almost 20 years and never had any reliability issues on them. Great saw's. Most of the loggers in my country use a Stihl.
Brian - Both hands on handle bar and pistol grip on both saws throughout, so you are mistaken there unfortunately. Moving both saws through the cut while backing off to listen to the engine run - that's called R & D. I did pull on the 395 pistol grip @ 7:42 to see if it hunker down and pull hard under more of a load, which it did. Clearly at that point the 395 had proven what it was capable of and had out cut the 661. I did also make mention of the added pistol grip pressure @ 8:38. And thanks for watching.
This is a joke for bozos who no zilch about chainsaws! There are so many variables it would be impossible to do a comparison like this. There's variations of power from the same make and model out of the box. Running several powerheads of each make on the same dyno would be the only way you could come close to a true comparison.
very true i have a brand new 390 husky and it has more than others i have cut against, found this true when i had snowmobiles bought a new 600 the speedometer cable broke shortly after purchase and the dealer that fixed it said that was the fastest 600 he had ever ridden of that model.
Bozos? Now that's harsh. There will always be slight variations in power output. But for the most part, saws run pretty close "out da box" to their brethren. In a comparison like this there will be input variations from the operator/s as well. This will have an effect on the end result - given. I think that most of the viewers understand this part. Do I try and be consistent, yes. Will I make input changes, at times. Some of that will come from running them both back to back and knowing the difference of how one will pull harder than the other. When it is clear that one is superior then more pressure might be applied toward the end of the cut for example. Having been working on saws since ~ '86/87 in varying degrees, I have seen the innards of more than just a few. In any model line-up there are machines that will run a little better - but they are the exception. One sled out of a hundred, or one saw out of 20 does not make a trend for example. From what I've seen of the internal components of saws, the ones that run better have quantifiable differences - if a guy wants to take the time to investigate. Pretty sure the same can be said for the other internal combustion engines as well. With that, once the jug and slug of a saw are altered, and if the same (as far as humanly possible) thing is done to both then the majority of the quantifiable difference are no longer a factor. Consistently, between every 395, 660, and/or 661 (with all saws being in the same state of tune) saw-off that I have done, the 395 wins. Although, with the 395 being up 2.46cc on the 661 and up 1.98cc on the 066/660 that's completely expected. Thanks for watching.
It's amazing how internet folks seem to KNOW EVERY5HING?compared to guy like say JACK who has 40 years in the saws and trees and the BIG ONES on top of it?come on here as if some kinda keyboard warrior.I've been doing trees 26 years and I listen beleive and learn from. ALL JACKS VIDEOS?Jack isn't just a firewood guy neither am I...AND Australia isn't America..hard wood is hard wood .what makes diference could be Knott's?exctra.if it was life or death situation and trees needed come down"!besides jesus JACK WOULD BE MY FIRST CALL.WELL SEcond, tecknically,was raised in tree service,my money's on JACK ALL DAY..get humble
That 395 sounds amaizing...
The Husq must have more torque. I was trying to decide between these two for a mill. You just made my decision for me since torque is most important for a mill. Thanks!
Difference between Stihl and Husqavarna, the Stihl runs and stays together. Once owned a Husqavarna, every screw, nut, and bolt vibrated out of the thing. Put loctite on them, the saw kept vibrating apart. Went to the Stihl dealer and have not looked back.
Darrell hi. I have seen more issues with Huskys having loose bolts. I has seen some interesting things in Stihl saws though. I just posted a video with a customers 661 cylinder assembly that had some sort of rubber "thingy" go through it. That was the first time I had seen anything remotely close to this.
660 are/were famous for needing crank bearing due to the poor air filtration system they were fitted with on an oem level. Whereas, 394/395s would rarely need them from debris passage. I know of quite a few logging that went away from Stihl saws because they had breakdown & longevity problems. I've run and own a few different brands. They all have strong and weak points.
In an all out power war, the 395 will kick the 660/661 in the rear every time, period.
I think blanket statements that one brand over another are interesting personally. In this life, there is always a caveat.
Thanks for watching.
Stihl chainsaws are more popular in my country especially on professional use, simply because they are more reliable than Huskies.
Some people on the comments said that Stihl is more popular because they have more dealers, but that's not an excuse here, because we live next to Sweden :)
Plenty of Husqvarna dealers here.
Our 661 at work is older but it almost has too much power. My 361 is a good and powerful saw but is difficult to access plug, air filter, etc. Probably why they came out with 362. Stihl weedeaters do not compare to Robin but they have gone under. It has been 27 years since I owned a Husky. Back then they were garbage. Bought an 026 and Stihl starts an runs today. Our husky at work sits and is never used.
Love the Husky! Dont get anymore perfect! The 395 is a pound for pound hoss of a saw!
No replacement for displacement!
Comes down to personal preference. Me I'm a husqvarna guy
The 395 one saw I'll never sell.. But both fantastic saws and I'd be more than happy to own a 661 as well..
Can't make a bad choice between these two great saws.
Love my Husky's and that's all I own, my 372XP is my fav, cant imagine how crazy a ported 395 XP would run....it's like a YZ-125 in your hand..lol
Dave Calvo no it's like a hush arena 125 in ur hand
Except it’s under 94cc
A yz-125 makes 42hp. This makes much less.
@@wkruse84 it's just a figure of speech. Not literally
Many pro's buy Stihl for the simple reason that every town and even most of the very small towns have a Stihl dealer, where you can stop in after work and pick up parts or drop off one of your saws for repairs. That is a big plus for pro fallers. Husqvarna, is good saw no doubt but very few dealerships unless you count home depot or other home centers or hardware stores which might sell them, but do not have a dedicated repairman and a stock of parts for your particular model of saw. Service and parts availability for some of the saws which otherwise would be adequate for this demanding line of work limits their usefulness. When I was young there were many brands of saws working in the woods of the Pacific Northwest where I lived. McCulloch and Homelite were very common, but no more. Currently I own, but seldom use a Husqvarna 3120 XP with 56 inch bar. Stihl 070/090 with a 42 inch bar, A Solo 681, an Efco 81 cc. My Favorite though is a Makita 35cc. It is easy to start and run and lightweight. Those big saws are good when you need something that big, but they are heavy and when you have badly arthritic hands, hard to start even with a big D handle pull start rope.
Bill Wessels it's the opposite for myself, in my area of the Northeast husky is king. Everyone I know runs husky ground saw and stihl climbers (husky toppers are trash). There's little husky shops everywhere, I can't remember the last time I saw a stihl shops that wasn't in a box store.
Just fix your own saw
I live in Georgia, south of ATL. There are definitely more Stihl shops here, but there are enough Husky shops to convince me want to try out their ground saws. I've heard good things. Stihl's new ground saws need carb work after 1 year of ownership with proper care and maintenance. I run a tree service, and I god knows we run these saws hard, but I can't buy 461's and 661's every year. I miss the 066's :(
I woukd love to have a 3120 for the Alaska saw mill. I use a good old 2100 for it now , I worry someday it will be hard to get parts for.
Way more husky dealers than sthil in my neck of the woods but equal usage of husky and sthils with local crews. My outfit uses husky mostly but a few bucks run sthils. Both are great saws
Both sound great. That 395 is the cat's meow.
I use a 00's husqy r55. My back up is a 70's mac 10-10.
As long as it starts good runs good. I'm happy.
Much as I'd like the Stihl to win, that 395 definitely has got it beat for pull. It sounded and looked a lot like running an old school pre-emissions gestapo ruined them. I'd be plenty happy with either. As always, excellent work.
I’m a stihl man as far as new saws go for sure. And I love all old chainsaws but old husky beats everything except for maybe a few select homelites and McCulloch I bought a brand new 661 and smashed it 2 weeks later… think I’m going to pick up a nice 395 I love how big husky’s of that generation sound.
Better torque with the Stihl.Displacement ONLY means anything when it comes to torque output,not horsepower.
Stihl owns it.
Thats a nice piece of land there with a great view. Is this a new GoPro camera you're using? That 395XP is a beast, and the ported ones pull like freight trains. Do you have a preference between i) the 394XP, ii) the early 395XP with the Tillotson carb, and iii) the 395XP with the Walbro carb?
Cool video jack. I love my 661 but wouldn't hesitate to give that insano 395 a try!
It pulls Real Nice- Thanks for the good work!
Really like both saws but man that 395 is a beast I have a 394 that runs good but not like yours
Dont hesitate to get ahold of Jack for saw work! Meticulous to detail!!
How do we get a hold of him
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
So Jack you must be using like an NGK spark plug or something like that or Denzel spark plug?
Aaron hi.
Ngk.
Thanks for watching.
Hola. 395xp brasileña vs suecas cuál es la diferencia
Beautiful saws, Jack! That 395 even sounds like it's got more grunt!
hey, I have owned a new 395 for a short time and absolutely believe it's the very best chainsaw I could get and wouldn't hesitate to get a 3120xp if the opportunity ever came up.
What does ported, or insanosised mean?
im really happy with how the machine performs stock
own not owned
Porting is a polishing of the engine ports to enhance flow of gas and air through your engine. This wil result in a stronger and faster running machine, it will have a cooling effect as well, although fuel consumption will rise a bit.
To raise the effect, the filter air flow has to be improved too, and you'll need to do the same on the other end, the exhaust needs to be ableto get rid of the larger amount of gasses out of your engine. The result of emptying and adding a port to your exhaust will give you a somewhat louder saw.
Leaves us with other kids of work, like for instance the carburator. It can be worked on aswell, to enhance flow. Making more rpm's possible has no use if you don't change out the factory coil, that is often limited to a certain amount of rpm's to an unlimited one. And to withstand all that new power you might also consider canging out bearings and such. Just a short overview of some of the possibilities. Never done any myself, but I have been reading a lot.
My saws don't have these upgrades, sadly, because nobody in my area knows how to do 'em, and parts are not easily available... I upgraded by taking an oversized saw, putting an undersized bar and chain on it, and than adding a different ring sprocket with more teeth. This will result in a faster cutting saw/more chain revolutions with the same amount of rpm's
Cheers and have a nice day!
awesome!
thanks!
That 3120 isn't a high reving saw. I've never run one but years ago my dealer had one and I as kicking it around. He talked me out of it and I bought the 394 which I just converted to a 395. His explanation was if you not in 36" + wood all the time there is no benefit. More torque but lower rpm's. If your running a 42" bar that would be your saw of choice. Next to a 395 in a 24" log it may not be that impressive. Honestly you can run the 395 with a 42" bar as well just run full skip chain. It pulls less wood so it cuts better in wide cuts. Big bars look cool but my experience is they are a pain in the ass to use and get straight cuts with. The weight of the power head always affects the cut. I'm set up for big rounds but without all the machines I have it's easier/cheaper to let the big stuff lay. That's a observation after 50 years of cutting.
Do you use an adapter to use the stihl bar on the other saw?
Brian hi. Yes. Thanks for watching.
Insane o sizeing a 395xp does that effect longevity compared to a stock saw ? Any disadvantages on insane o sizing ?
DragonCanoe71 hi.
Longevity, to a large degree from my perspective anyway, is
operator related. Specifically, the maintenance habits, the mix oil choice,
condition of the chain/s, and proper jetting for the locale and especially the
chains. A little bit of my experience with psycho level saws is a follows: 6.5
to 7 million board feet cut over a 7 year time span with one of my 390s - all
original, down to the plastics. Over a five year period (5+ million), I wore
out four 372 bottom ends with a big bore topend I made myself in '01. Both were
what I would call the standard psycho zipkit of today. Heavily modified,
reshaped combustion chambers, etc., etc. Some would suggest that a modded saw
has longevity issues. I don't necessarily agree that a zipped saw/s doesn't
last as long.All that being said, many dragsters never make
it off the line. Modifying mechanical things sometimes = failures.
Thanks that does make sense, so would you in your opinion do that to a brand new saw ? Or wait till warranty is up ?
The saw can be pretty well used at the end of the warranty depending on the guy operating it and if it is a "homeowner" purchase - that time frame is a year.
I'm pretty picky about zipping a used saw. It would depend on just how used we were talking about. It would have to go through my "33-point safety inspection" and "pass with flying colors". The mix oil used will be a factor in the wear aspect, since, not all oils are created equally - not even close. Thanks.
What is your oil of choice?
I think you could probably make any chainsaw run like a scalded rabbit, given what there was to work with. Nice comparison.
Have you had a chance to look at the 661-cm and if it would be worth working on it?
Wilde0709 hi. Umm, I thought that is what we have here. + the R for wrap as well.
Thanks for watching.
Wake up beauty wake up
Cool vid. Love my 395 for big stuff, pretty unstoppable.
that 395 is nice!! what is the smallest saw you work on? I have a t540 I would like done up.
Whatever shows up. ms241 might be the smallest so far. I have a Husky 136 that is pristine and have been contemplating putting the hurt on it.
All those new stratified saws need help. Please shoot me an email if you are interested.
Thanks for watching.
I appreciate your time and hope to do some business with you soon. thanks for all the videos! you really are a master of the trade!
Matthew Cayenne - Jack did a 241c for me and I'm well pleased with it ... it sports a 16" bar with sqr/sqr ps 63 chain ... anything 14" and under gets the 241c treatment ... have about 40 tanks of fuel thru it and STIHL running well ...
Matthew Cayenne -- if you google "ported 241c" I have a few vids with yours truly as the operator ... I spoke with Jack at length and also had several emails back and forth ... I gave him my word I wouldn't post his "methods" but I couldn't resist taking off the jug for a look-see ... top - notch work from a top notch fella !!!
Husqvarna the favourite chainsaw.i used 372xp.&394xp
Mohdrafiee Mohdrafieederahman I respect your opinion but I had a 2014 model 372xp and I didn’t really like it compared to my 461, my 461 is just so authoritative. Even with a 36”, I like low end torque vs high rpm, just love the stock performance with the dual port. Saving my piggy bank to send it to jack, honored he returned my call one time back in 2016
Why do you block off the decompression valve?
Nick hi. The tips can pop off on the Stihl, and some other saws as well, design and obliterate the topend. Most guys seem to want then off also. Thanks for watching.
Do u feel they loose compression
This comment comes at 4:04 , hooking up husky , I saw a spark when you had the stihl at bottom of its cut , so chain will be a little bit duller , but the husky will still beet the stihl
How do we get a saw insanerized?
wasn't really a comparison, the 395 whooped on it..
Husqvarna time is money all the way. I was doing firewood with a 2100 husky and a 16” bar. She would destroy hardwoods. Bigger is better.
I want to see a stck 661 verse a 395 with 3 foot bars.
it seems like people set up stihls to fail on the internet test.
395 will always win
my opinion small stihl are the best but husky is the best for big saws
Hot saws do u guys only do stihl and husqvarna
Equal opportunity offenders around here. "Have tools, can change things".
There are videos of Dolmars and Makitas scattered through this channels" timeline.
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Poulan wild thing
Joe Pesci lol
Joe Pesci I used to have 3 wild things. Best ever. You could put them in a burlap sack and they would hold your boat over a fishing hole in a hard wind.
395 much cooler loving it
Husqvarna is just a better saw, the only reason people buy stihl . Is because someone else had one..
Nice !🤩
Since ....IMHO...The bigger saws arent that critical for crosscutting, it would be nice to see a comparison using the same bar length with the two saws on a Grandberg Alaskan chain saw mill...Using a 404 size ripping chain... I think that is the biggest demand for these large saws..
c dawg hi.
Unless you are on the west coast. A lot of guys fell relatively large diameter trees regularly. And, a lot of the same guys bushel. So having more power is always a plus. Doing a comparison in a milling application the out come would be the same, 395 whooping up on a 660/661. Provided, all things are do equally.
Thanks for watching.
heyy love to watch your video's keep it up!!! from Montreal,Canada
I’m starting to grow my one-man tree business and I’m looking at the 661 and the 395 as options for the big stuff. They both seem to pound out the work. What do y’all think? Do you imagine either of them will do good in the long run?
I ran a 395 for 6 seasons of falling timber in eastern washington. Cutting nothing but 3-6' pines and doug firs all day long. I ran a 661 for 3 seasons before it blew up cutting on a salvage sale.
The 395 was far more durable and had alot more low end grunt. 395 is a bit heavier, but they are powerful saws.
You will get your moneys worth out of the 395.
Hey man, thanks for the tip. I really appreciate it.
Nice video bud.
Must have hit a soft spot with that husky bahahah
That's a husky beat down right there!
Evening Jack, interesting that the "old" 395 allowing for the larger displacement gives a saw with more "grunt" It really comes down to what you are cutting and how you want to cut it I suppose ?I'll drop you a mail later !
outinthewood
Hotsaws101 what's is ur shop called I'd like to send out my brand new 395 XP to get the Insano sized sis kit done to it
Zack Renaud Zac hi. My email is in the description area of my latest videos. But just in case, danger_cat@rocketmail.com
Please shoot me an email and we can get the process started.
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Zach hi. Missed this post - sorry. My email is in the description are of a lot of the later videos.
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I would not do that if I were you!
Ok, let's stop pissing around with softwood. Australian native eucalyptus, oh, let's try Red Gum, say 36"+ diameter, with a 24" bar on both, so you HAVE to double cut. 3/8" .058" standard config chain. Fell then block the trunk when it's green. See ya 661! Never been outworked by a 661 with my 395, pre-EPA. Not ported, just tuned properly.
Lol at talking about Aussie hardwoods and then mentioning redgum. Green redgum is on a par with US trees I'd reckon. For real cutting it needs to be dry ironbark or greybox. I always look forward to cutting redgum as it's such easy cutting in comparison.
Check your Janka scale. And try cutting green river Red gum. I've cut plenty of old Ironbark, Qld redgum and fallen river redgum. Green anything is easier than fallen and aged, however, check your Janka scale to compare North American timber.
is the 395xp loud
Kiley hi. They are both really loud. Thanks for watching.
Fei demais
Husqvarna the best
that husky 👌
The only competitor to the xp 395 is the makita/dolmar.
070 stihl spank it
That voice 😂 love this ^^
Why put stihl guide bar on Husqvarna when husqvarna has their own guide bars?! just don't understand why do you people put guide bars from diffrent companies?!
Duje hi.
Because the saw test comparison is as fair as it is going to get when I run the exact same bar and chain on both saws.
I cannot speak for the others.
Thanks for watching.
Stevie would be very upset knowing that thee ol stihl just ain't got what the huskys have....I'm 5'10" 135 lbs and dying to get a 3120 to try n pack around...just to see how bad it is...to me I'll pack the weight just to have the power...
Got a fake 660 out of china. Came with ported muffler no EPA shit on it. Put a 28" bar skip tooth chain. And she out cut them both. For 1/2 the $ ben running her hard for 3 yrs now. Not one problem
Is it still going?
weri good
Tell me why is that saw cutting so slow through soft wood y'all need to learn how to sharpen saw when you do it 5 times a day in the woods you learnt real quick
ffejlehman2323 hit them drags hard for that pine!!!!
I was gonna say I can get my 395 blasting through white oak and hickory faster than this
Ahh NO?
My God I would hate to have ham and my ex-wife talk on the phone the bill would be outrageous
Don hi. So yah,,, you havin a bad hair day?
@@hotsaws101 didn't I see you on Leno oh wait
Thats your resumeé? The 395 pulls harder? That is the professional opinion? It pulls harder.
Thanks for that. Lol
Hi.We test all big saws up here in Canada.The stihl 661 is a computerised saw you mess withit the computyor can not work proper.The husky 395 boat acnhour can be modified yes as it is old school.I had 3 of them modified to the blow up point..Everybody thinks they can mess with computors and still modify,well you can not.No different than your car.We have proven time and time again that the stock 661 will out cut most modified huskys.the reason being if not screwed with the computor will adjust carb settings automaticly.Try to adjust or tune your carb while in a cut with the 395.Trying to modify a 661 only brings failure.By trying to modify the stihl you have pretty much destroyed it.i get lots of guys coming to myshop that said the saw was find until Joe blow think he knows it all did a bunch of modifiying. and now it does not work.Well a piston and cylinder and a muffler and labour will only cost about 800.00 to make it right again.Luck Mcbain.
My bad geuss I should look shit before. I run my mouth A
I'll take Stihl anyday over Husqvarna,Stihl is just a more durable saw in my opinion. Husqvarna saw perform well but I can tell you from repairing saws for more than 25 years that the Husqvarna is more difficult and more expensive to repair. I myself will not own a Husqvarna.
I agree! Huskys fail all the time oil pump screws falling out and a 92 cc after a 95cc which saw lasted after the full day? Stihl all the way
Same. Older Husqvarna's were reliable saw's, but the built quality on the newer ones is not the same anymore and some of the Husky models have reliability issues.
I've been using Stihl Ms250 and 251 almost 20 years and never had any reliability issues on them. Great saw's.
Most of the loggers in my country use a Stihl.
you're clearly letting the 661 cut under its own weight where you're forcing the Husky
Brian - Both hands on handle bar and pistol grip on both saws throughout, so you are mistaken there unfortunately. Moving both saws through the cut while backing off to listen to the engine run - that's called R & D. I did pull on the 395 pistol grip @ 7:42 to see if it hunker down and pull hard under more of a load, which it did. Clearly at that point the 395 had proven what it was capable of and had out cut the 661. I did also make mention of the added pistol grip pressure @ 8:38.
And thanks for watching.
Always someone like you saying that on every video where a husky wins lmao. Just admit the husky won.
Stihl started first pull to me better saw.
Big box store saw vs dealer saw... hmm
This is a joke for bozos who no zilch about chainsaws! There are so many variables it would be impossible to do a comparison like this. There's variations of power from the same make and model out of the box. Running several powerheads of each make on the same dyno would be the only way you could come close to a true comparison.
very true i have a brand new 390 husky and it has more than others i have cut against, found this true when i had snowmobiles bought a new 600 the speedometer cable broke shortly after purchase and the dealer that fixed it said that was the fastest 600 he had ever ridden of that model.
Bozos? Now that's harsh.
There will always be slight variations in power output. But for the most part, saws run pretty close "out da box" to their brethren.
In a comparison like this there will be input variations from the operator/s as well. This will have an effect on the end result - given. I think that most of the viewers understand this part. Do I try and be consistent, yes. Will I make input changes, at times. Some of that will come from running them both back to back and knowing the difference of how one will pull harder than the other. When it is clear that one is superior then more pressure might be applied toward the end of the cut for example.
Having been working on saws since ~ '86/87 in varying degrees, I have seen the innards of more than just a few. In any model line-up there are machines that will run a little better - but they are the exception. One sled out of a hundred, or one saw out of 20 does not make a trend for example.
From what I've seen of the internal components of saws, the ones that run better have quantifiable differences - if a guy wants to take the time to investigate. Pretty sure the same can be said for the other internal combustion engines as well. With that, once the jug and slug of a saw are altered, and if the same (as far as humanly possible) thing is done to both then the majority of the quantifiable difference are no longer a factor.
Consistently, between every 395, 660, and/or 661 (with all saws being in the same state of tune) saw-off that I have done, the 395 wins. Although, with the 395 being up 2.46cc on the 661 and up 1.98cc on the 066/660 that's completely expected.
Thanks for watching.
It's amazing how internet folks seem to KNOW EVERY5HING?compared to guy like say JACK who has 40 years in the saws and trees and the BIG ONES on top of it?come on here as if some kinda keyboard warrior.I've been doing trees 26 years and I listen beleive and learn from. ALL JACKS VIDEOS?Jack isn't just a firewood guy neither am I...AND Australia isn't America..hard wood is hard wood .what makes diference could be Knott's?exctra.if it was life or death situation and trees needed come down"!besides jesus JACK WOULD BE MY FIRST CALL.WELL SEcond, tecknically,was raised in tree service,my money's on JACK ALL DAY..get humble
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I think the Stihl won. You did not put pressure on the stihl as. you did on the husq.listen to the rpm's.