born in the 50's, I remember my father building a lot of those deBolt kits in the house.....silk and dope coverings...transmitters were huge for rudder only flights....nice to see that Champ converted to electric and flying nicely .........now that I am retired , I have been learning to fly this past summer......great channel and many thanks for the tips......
@@TimMcKay56 one story I remember clearly was as follows: my father the built a plane from a balsa kit, with silk covering, ( a deBolt kit ) rudder only control , with rubber band escapement.....most planes were hand launched in those days...my uncle launched the plane ..it flew beautifully , nice and straight, perfectly trimmed after being built...except my uncle forgot to turn the receiver switch on.........the plane flew straight and climbed out of site...they chased it in the car, but never found it......I never realized how much that must have hurt, now knowing how much work in building it was......the foam PNP electrics are so much simpler now a days.....
@@garyvale8347 GAry: That one must have hurt. I fully recall how much time and effort went into kits in the early days, especially before MonoKote came on the scene. And as always, move/wiggle/check the controls surfaces prior to taking off! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 yes, you are absolutely right !!!....I am guessing it was just an oversite or back in those early days of the rubber band wound escapements, they only had so many left and right rudder commands and didn't routinely use up any on pre-flight testing ...I know that certainly now , I am in the habit of verifying that all my control surfaces work , and I do this multiple times before I take off.....thanks again for all your helpful rc videos.....
Good stuff, Tim. Something else for the low-time pilots to consider is the concept of the perfect landing, which is when the wing stalls at the same time the wheels touch the runway. If you can achieve this consistently, congratulations! You have arrived! And, as a bonus, no bouncing! Practice, practice, practice! Know your airplane! Happy landings! P.S. And don't forget to flare!
Follow-up comment- The concepts discussed really helped me at the field. Using throttle for altitude and elevator for speed on long final approaches really drove home the concept and helped me improve. Also, keeping in mind the target landing area on the runway helped with the setup of final and landing or touch and go. Actually gained a lot of confidence to get a model going that I have continued to chicken out from performing maiden on. Thanks.
Very good points about practicing T&Gs, not only for the models but also for the larger aircraft. Landing might be a tough part of flying, but it is also a very interesting and fun part. Thx for the summary!
Very Good advice. I love doing touch and goes with my old funcub fantastic aircraft similar to yours but a foamy. One thing to note when you venture onto a warbird when balancing the throttle with the angle of attack beware of the tip stall. Always try it at altitudes the first time just in case. I fly all electric but still we pick a spot on the runway (a daisy or something) and practice dead stick landings and closest is the winner. PS jealous of your tarmac runway we have to make do with grass.
Mark: Wise words. Remember also that for any warbird, as they are designed for high performance flight, flaps are most helpful/required for landing, due to wing tip stalls, etc. Do practice slow flight at altitude prior to landing approaches, and if possible, consider adding flaps for the landings. They help a lot. Tim
On R/C planes power will increase airspeed.And pitch could increase altitude.This is due to the power to weight ratio.Full scale aircraft are actually underpowered as compaired to model aircraft.I have had many agreements with my full scale flight instructor.Back than I was learning how to fly my R/C plane at the same time I was training for my private pilot certificate.
The primary function of the elevator is to adjust the wing's AOA, increasing or decreasing lift. However, during slow flight, such as final approach, as you approach stall speed, the throttle is used to control your rate of decent, and elevator is used to slow the plane down by adding back pressure to the stick (or yoke), and reducing back pressure to increase airspeed. Remember, using back stick brings the wing's AOA closer to stall, something I try to avoid when closer to the ground. Landing an airplane properly is a bit of an art form, really. Practice, practice, practice!
Stephen/Richard: Good thoughts on power and pitch for airspeed and altitude control. It is a fact, with the high power to weight ratio of our models, the throttle can and does control airspeed. Incidentally, this is how airliners fly on landing approach and at cruise . . . power to set airspeed. Where this can bite you is in a deadstick situation, where the only way to increase airspeed is to lower the nose. The old item of trying to "stretch the glide" on final approach. Tim
Mandy: Thanks for checking in. Best of luck with taking up RC! Most important first step is finding a local club. They can help you a lot with advice, an instructor, etc. Good luck! Tim
Blade: Retract the flaps for sure once you get a positive rate of climb. That way you stay in practice actually lowering the flaps for a landing or touch and go. Tim
@@RC-Heli835 Good luck! In a real airplane, it simply will not climb out with the flaps full down. You might get away with it in a model, but best to retract once you are climbing out. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Ok something else you said about dead stick landing pricked my interest. I've never thought abut it much with the airplanes but have heli's. I've practicing that in sim too now. Take off get altitude, kill throttle, lower the nose and pull in the flaps and look for a place with no obstructions. I've been doing pretty good with it. I've practiced thousands of hrs autorotating the RC Helicopters on sim not so much on the real helis.😃
I prefer to have students practice land and go's. There's too much emphasis placed on the touching and not enough on the landing. It compels the student additionally to land the plane in front of them and not Beyond them. Also to continue to fly the plane as it's slowing. Then apply power properly control with Rudder and take off again. Think about it, the students mostly emphasize the touching and not the real Landing.
Another great video full of useful information thanks Tim. I will be recommending your channel to my fellow club members.
David: Many thanks for the feedback and sharing with your club . . . always great to post to Facebook as well! Regards, Tim
born in the 50's, I remember my father building a lot of those deBolt kits in the house.....silk and dope coverings...transmitters were huge for rudder only flights....nice to see that Champ converted to electric and flying nicely .........now that I am retired , I have been learning to fly this past summer......great channel and many thanks for the tips......
Gary: The Champ is a great airplane for Sunday flying. Fun to hear about your Dad, thanks for checking in! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 one story I remember clearly was as follows: my father the built a plane from a balsa kit, with silk covering, ( a deBolt kit ) rudder only control , with rubber band escapement.....most planes were hand launched in those days...my uncle launched the plane ..it flew beautifully , nice and straight, perfectly trimmed after being built...except my uncle forgot to turn the receiver switch on.........the plane flew straight and climbed out of site...they chased it in the car, but never found it......I never realized how much that must have hurt, now knowing how much work in building it was......the foam PNP electrics are so much simpler now a days.....
@@garyvale8347 GAry: That one must have hurt. I fully recall how much time and effort went into kits in the early days, especially before MonoKote came on the scene. And as always, move/wiggle/check the controls surfaces prior to taking off! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 yes, you are absolutely right !!!....I am guessing it was just an oversite or back in those early days of the rubber band wound escapements, they only had so many left and right rudder commands and didn't routinely use up any on pre-flight testing ...I know that certainly now , I am in the habit of verifying that all my control surfaces work , and I do this multiple times before I take off.....thanks again for all your helpful rc videos.....
@@garyvale8347 Gary: No worries, thanks again for checking in! Tim
That Livewire is a beautiful airplane you have there, Tim. Looks like a champ of a flyer also.
David: Yes, the Livewire Champ flies great, like it a lot! Tim
Good stuff, Tim.
Something else for the low-time pilots to consider is the concept of the perfect landing, which is when the wing stalls at the same time the wheels touch the runway.
If you can achieve this consistently, congratulations! You have arrived!
And, as a bonus, no bouncing!
Practice, practice, practice!
Know your airplane!
Happy landings!
P.S. And don't forget to flare!
Richard: Wise words, and wish as well for calm winds! Tim
@@TimMcKay56
Thanks, Tim.
Blue skies and fair winds!
Follow-up comment- The concepts discussed really helped me at the field. Using throttle for altitude and elevator for speed on long final approaches really drove home the concept and helped me improve. Also, keeping in mind the target landing area on the runway helped with the setup of final and landing or touch and go. Actually gained a lot of confidence to get a model going that I have continued to chicken out from performing maiden on. Thanks.
MVG2: Glad the discussion on airspeed and altitude control helped. Good luck with your landing practice! Tim
Very good points about practicing T&Gs, not only for the models but also for the larger aircraft. Landing might be a tough part of flying, but it is also a very interesting and fun part. Thx for the summary!
DC: Fully agree! Tim
Another great explantion package Tim. I love how you relate your subject from RC (model) to full scale airplane
Alain: Thanks so much for checking in! Tim
Very Good advice. I love doing touch and goes with my old funcub fantastic aircraft similar to yours but a foamy. One thing to note when you venture onto a warbird when balancing the throttle with the angle of attack beware of the tip stall. Always try it at altitudes the first time just in case. I fly all electric but still we pick a spot on the runway (a daisy or something) and practice dead stick landings and closest is the winner. PS jealous of your tarmac runway we have to make do with grass.
Mark: Wise words. Remember also that for any warbird, as they are designed for high performance flight, flaps are most helpful/required for landing, due to wing tip stalls, etc. Do practice slow flight at altitude prior to landing approaches, and if possible, consider adding flaps for the landings. They help a lot. Tim
Great and informative video Tim, I have had a few crab approaches, I find it funny. 👍🏻
Dad: Glad you enjoyed it! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 I did Tim, you can never know enough about RC.
Chris
@@DadsRCHangar All good! Tim
Great video. So much contradictory advice once you get to the field. Stick with the directions outlined here.
MVG2: Many thanks for your kind words, best of luck at the field! Tim
On R/C planes power will increase airspeed.And pitch could increase altitude.This is due to the power to weight ratio.Full scale aircraft are actually underpowered as compaired to model aircraft.I have had many agreements with my full scale flight instructor.Back than I was learning how to fly my R/C plane at the same time I was training for my private pilot certificate.
The primary function of the elevator is to adjust the wing's AOA, increasing or decreasing lift. However, during slow flight, such as final approach, as you approach stall speed, the throttle is used to control your rate of decent, and elevator is used to slow the plane down by adding back pressure to the stick (or yoke), and reducing back pressure to increase airspeed.
Remember, using back stick brings the wing's AOA closer to stall, something I try to avoid when closer to the ground.
Landing an airplane properly is a bit of an art form, really.
Practice, practice, practice!
Stephen/Richard: Good thoughts on power and pitch for airspeed and altitude control. It is a fact, with the high power to weight ratio of our models, the throttle can and does control airspeed. Incidentally, this is how airliners fly on landing approach and at cruise . . . power to set airspeed. Where this can bite you is in a deadstick situation, where the only way to increase airspeed is to lower the nose. The old item of trying to "stretch the glide" on final approach. Tim
@@TimMcKay56
Yes but, I was speaking in the context of this video.
No worries. Happy landings!
@@richarddarlington1139 All good! Tim
@@TimMcKay56 😁
Hi im watching your video cuz I like how you explain I think if have money I make rc plane soon
Mandy: Thanks for checking in. Best of luck with taking up RC! Most important first step is finding a local club. They can help you a lot with advice, an instructor, etc. Good luck! Tim
If you were using a plane with flaps and practicing touch and goes would you just keep the flaps down around the entire pattern?
Blade: Retract the flaps for sure once you get a positive rate of climb. That way you stay in practice actually lowering the flaps for a landing or touch and go. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Ok thanks Ive only flown planes in Phoenix but want to practice the right way.
@@RC-Heli835 Good luck! In a real airplane, it simply will not climb out with the flaps full down. You might get away with it in a model, but best to retract once you are climbing out. Tim
@@TimMcKay56 Ok something else you said about dead stick landing pricked my interest. I've never thought abut it much with the airplanes but have heli's.
I've practicing that in sim too now. Take off get altitude, kill throttle, lower the nose and pull in the flaps and look for a place with no obstructions. I've been doing pretty good with it.
I've practiced thousands of hrs autorotating the RC Helicopters on sim not so much on the real helis.😃
@@RC-Heli835 Sounds like a plan! Tim
Landings always seem to have come easy for me. "Takeoffs", even to this day, are subject to change at any moment.
David: Thanks for this input! Tim
Good info. But lets face it, we are flying TOYS not Manned air craft..
But we are flying in the same airspace used by many other full size aircraft. Tim
I prefer to have students practice land and go's. There's too much emphasis placed on the touching and not enough on the landing. It compels the student additionally to land the plane in front of them and not Beyond them. Also to continue to fly the plane as it's slowing. Then apply power properly control with Rudder and take off again. Think about it, the students mostly emphasize the touching and not the real Landing.
Jeff: Excellent point, many thanks! Tim