Photography in the Old West
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- Photographers in the era of westward expansion
NOTE: Exposure times could also be shorter than stated in the video. The two tintypes i have been in (in video) took about 15 seconds to expose. However, many sources say it was commonly done with less time.
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Just a note, the exposure times by the frontier period were less than depicted in the video. "30-40 seconds" was just for the skit.
It all depends on the light!
Y'all made me giggle with him jumping out 🤣 cheesy by I can see you both having fun
Freeze? But I didn't bring a jacket! Hahaha!!!🤣🤣
Santee you are the greatest! This was another home run.
I would love a tin type photo!
Thanks, Brendan.
Liked at 223 the pocket watch is really ticking, well done on old time photography, very informative. Keep up the great vids
Yeah, the sucker still works well for being 1882
This video is awesome, as usual. Interesting stuff there about the photography. I have a couple of tin type photos of my grandparents. Thank you!
You're welcome.
I love the old time photos. And this was really interesting learned a lot of new stuff didn't know before. Thank you again 🤠🌵
So glad!
I mean sometimes I want to go back in time but then I remember how hard it was for them to survive that time, awesome video.
Did you ever find lenny?
jordan hicks Yes partner, in heaven I sure did.
I noticed that Jerry has a Gumby and a Pokey figurine in his office. I didn't know you could get those anymore, but I'm glad he did. Nothing says the old west like Gumby and Pokey... ;)
He has a lot of interesting and fun doo-dads in his office.
Great job, Santee! Nice pic of Ed Schieffelin, founder of Tombstone, at 2:50.
When Schieffelin when prospecting alone in Apache territory, his friends said "The only thing you'll find out there is your tombstone." So his first strike, he named the mine the Tombstone, and the name stuck.
But Santee, I'm sure you knew that already!
Yep, Old West photography was quite a process. Jerry & I can tell you the process we learned using Dektol, Microdol, & D76 but this was a lot more difficult. Great episode! Hahaha. The blooper with Batjack was great!
Thanks.
Hey Santee Bac jack is truly blurred! Some folks do not stand still in front of camera! 😃 see y'all down the trail.Great job no more no less...has ever.Thanks
Thanks!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Bat was squirming like a worm on a hook .
Great video as always.. Thanks for remembering.
You got it.
Very cool. My daughter was just asking why all the old pictures of the pioneers and homesteaders were absent any sort of smiles. This lets her hear a less bumbling explanation about the process 🤠
A short story that my dad told me about his father, my grandfather.
Dad had a letter that he had sent to his family with a photo and in the letter he told of going to get this photo. Grandpop had scraped and saved for a long time to get the " dollar " it cost and when it was done the photographer said, okay that'll be one dollar..... and three cents ! Grandpop said that he did not have the three cents and had to find someone to borrow it !
Dad told me that happened in 1887 and for the rest of grandpops life anytime someone wanted to take his picture, he would ask " what's it gonna cost me " ! 😊
Dad also said that grandpop mentioned more than a few times that he should have just took out his colt and shot him ! THAT'S MY FAMILY !! 😁
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Great history there. Thanks!
A few notes from a pro for 21 years. Photos were so expensive in the old west because whether they were on tin or glass;All required silver to produce the image. The extended time it took to get a clear image was one of the reasons why the only "good" photo of so many was their death picture. Thanks for your work.
Thank you. Correction, though: The metal was thin iron and no tin was involved in the process.
Funny, I was trying very hard to find a blurry tintype that I've seen so many of....but couldn't find one when I needed it for the video! Drat.
This is a great show!
Thank you!
Lots of old pics around to collect. Great video you did on how they were made 150 years ago.
Thanks!
Oh! Finally an episode I can get behind... er, in front of!!
🎥 🤠
HA! Just don't get over-exposed to it.
The skits have only gotten better, I love Santee and crew.
Glad you enjoy them.
On a side note, the “C.S. Fly Photography Studio” shown in this video is where the Gunfight At The OK Corral actually took place. (OK Corral sold more books, movie tickets, etc. than “Gunfight At The Photography Studio”.)
Yes. It was in the alley between two buildings. One of them was Fly's.
Thank you for another great video. Not only are your videos always informative and interesting, the editing and flow perfect.
Thank you.
Well it's 5PM in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Also yes a episode on photography in the Old West.
Awesome.
Thank you!
No problem!
Uzbekistan is actually a country I like to visit.
@@AlexKS1992 Wonder what the food is like.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Russian, Asian and Persian influence so I can imagine it's exotic.
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Great video and as always educational and fun . Old West history at its best. I'll get out there one of these days.
Thank you much!
Santee, great and hilarious episode. I so look forward to these videos. Thanks Amigo.
Thank you so much Ralph! I look forward to making 'em.
The old time photography was used for the tourists who came to Henry Ford's Greenfield Village. It was discontinued after 1980 because of the chemicals that were used. They use to demonstrate how they developed and photographed the person. Thanks for sharing 👍 😊!
You're welcome!
Fantastic video Santee. I've delved into photography (some) since I was in high school back in the mid 1960's. Oh yeah, many things have changed since then, we're experiencing a whole new "frontier" in picture taking.
It was good seeing Batjac JW in the skit.
Thanks for sharing another great video with us.
Stan
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
WOW! As someone who enjoys black and white film photography I would love to see a piece on the old photography you mention in this video.
Sure!
Never ceases to mesmerize my attention when one of your productions is on.
Another outstanding job Arizona Ghostriders, ...bully, bully good
You da man, Rusty!
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Nah, ..... appreciate the sentiment brother.
I'm just a guy born 100 years too late,... but fortunately was able to find like minded folks, like yourself
Great job once again. I look forward to the next one. =)
Great video as usuall - just love the historical aspect of them :D Great work :)
yay!
Very cool Santee love this one!!
Thanks to you I learn a lot of the real old west! Keep continue the good work.
Greetings from the Netherlands
I appreciate that comment very much!
This is so cool. I love photography and learning how it was done in the past. It should make everyone appreciate what we have now.
Yes, it is neat to learn the old ways!
the editing and special effects are really well done and used!
Thank you!
Hey Santee I'm now seeing this video. This is something I really wanted to know about i will add this video to my photo website
blasted youtube switched up my recommended forgot about your stuff but good now I got two months of videos to watch soo
Thanks!
What a flash back!
Another AWESOME video ! :-)
Thank you very much.
Awesome! I have a tin type of one of my father's relatives with that same red felt frame! I'm guessing they were pretty standard back then. Now I just need to figure out why I want a Floridora Cigar so bad... (and i'm not kidding !!! ha ha ha) thanks so much Cheese !
Yeah, it's great stuff. I think back then it was about .25 per copy. Maybe less.
Great video, Santee 😊👍🏻
Be careful with the flash (gun) powder, Santee 📷💥🤕
Awesome idea to make an interview with a photographer! Looking forward to the video 😊
Thanks!
Too much flash powder 😂
Great video! Thank goodness for cell phone cameras. I'm way too lazy for the other lol
Yeah! It's ok.. me too.
Excellent episode on old school photography that’s how I started off very cool
Nice video chaps, keep up the wonderful work
Thank you!
You guys need a program on The History Channel! You guys make learning fun!
Thank you. They won't return my calls. HA!
Loving the videos! This was very interesting.
Great, Eric. Thanks for watching!
This video should have been a SNAP to make!!
It was, and I got to EXPOSE you all to history.
Best picture of BacJack I’ve ever seen 👍🏻🤠
I can't wait for him to see it.
I recently sat for some plate photos. It was a long session, the photographer would take 4 pictures in a row then rush to the dark room before taking the next set. She was developing negatives on paper, but when processed into positives they looked amazing. The trickiest part was taking the actual photo as sometimes she forgot to warn me when she took the lens cap off.
Very cool!
The one dislike if from the guy who used too much flash powder. Another excellent upload. I was really curious about this. Thank you.
One day I'll do one on the actual process...with a pro!
Love the video!
Thank you!!
Very cool history!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Another great start for me my day
3:26 ~ Modern-day SOG knife clip spotted in Santee's pants pocket. Likely a SOG Flash, or Flash II.
Good catch!
Hey Santee!
I'm moving to Arizona in a few months... can you do a video on how to get involved in Old West living history?
I'll do my best! Welcome (early)!
Another outstanding video!
One interesting thing I see in far too many movies and TV shows is the photographer using a view camera, putting his head under the cloth to get the composition and focus right in the ground glass on the back of the camera, then put the lens cap on the lens, then put the film plate in (which blocks the light from hitting the ground glass), and then go back under the cloth to make one final check, which is impossible because the cap would be on the lens, and the film plate would block any light that might possibly come through.
This is something that, once you know it, you will notice it as well.
Interesting. I'll have to look more carefully.
Nice one!
Great stuff guys !
Thanks.
Thanks Santee (top dog)you make perfect video's!😄
Much appreciated, Samuel!
Dear Santee, can you do a top 10 western series?
Yes! In the works. Thanks!
Thanks it would be interesting
Great video. Awesome history. Funny & informative. Kick that nasty habit of chewing tobacco. Lol
Your videos are just outstanding! Hey mister Santee I was wondering why so many of these old west photos no one is smiling could it be the respect that they had for this art form if you know please let me know.
There are a couple things attributed to it. Long exposure times and smiling don't always go together (blurriness) and they also took it seriously, considering smiling to be "silly"
As Santee says, photography back then was serious business.
It was expensive and time consuming (not just the time in front of the came a, but the time spent just getting ready).
Smiles just weren't serious enough. Remember, for most people, especially away from the East Coast, a photograph (not 'photo') was a once-in-a-lifetime thing.
@@bigbill2444 thank you sir for the info I really appreciate it.
Educational and funny, love it.
Thank you!
Great video Santee!
É da "hora isso!
Wizards putting people's souls into paper
Plankton🦠: CORRECT!
Fascinating...I want to do this now!!!
Contact Will Dunniway and get his expert tutelage.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I'll consider it.
Fantastic episode!!👍👍
That would be cool to have an actual tin type photo taken! It would definitely look a lot better than with the sepia filter that’s used now a days.
34,000 subscribers! Wow your channel has really grown! Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks, Dan!
Do you think you could make a video about dressing the part of the mountain man? Or maybe just a video about the mountain men in general. That would be very interesting.
I did one on Buckskin clothing just a few episodes ago. The Mountain Man era was before the period we know as the Old West, but I"ll touch on it in other videos.
Fun to watch. I actually do this stuff. A word about flash powder, it was in use from the 1880's to the 1920's, and not really used outdoors if there is enugh light during the day and mostly in doors for photographing indoor views such as large rooms or group shots in a theater etc. Exposures could be made in a few seconds for a tintype or ambrotype but a glass negative required at least twice the exposure, all depending on the size of the lens opening and amount of light available. An instantanious shot could be made with collodion but it is tricky and result in an over or under exposure since the the exposure was made by removing and replacing the lens cap by hand, but there where shutters used for outdoor scenes some times.
Thanks for the info from someone who does it. That gives the audience extra stuff they can investigate in case they are interested!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Your'e welcome.
Great video as usual :)
Hey Santee! Can you talk about the very first cars in the old west?
Sure.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Awesome! Thanks for the response :D
Santee was there such thing as a portable camera. Not to small. But could be carried in a satchel or something? By the way have u ever seen the first video of all time? Check it out. See you down the dusty trail.
That Ambrotype camera I showed with the accordion-looking thingie could collapse and was considered portable.
I think it was forbidden to smile in pictures back in the day!
I look at 19th century pictures like the ones you showed because I find them interesting. I never noticed that they used props.
It's because nobody had any teeth! LOL!
Interesting stuff Santee
Thanks!
I've had my old timey photo taken by Mr. Dunniway years ago.
Yeah? That's so cool!
Great video Santee keep it up and also can I take a picture with dirty dan?
HA! Yes.
During the 150th anniversary of the trans-continental railway celebration here in Old Sacramento pictures were taken with cellphones. I was thinking the historic re-enactors deserve historic photography!
HA! Cool, though
Well, you can photoshop these pictures into the old sepia tinted ones.
My friends daughter did that with a picture with me wearing my american native outfit.
I looks quiet impressing!
Like i lived 150 years earlier.
Great video Santee
I appreciate it!
A very interesting episode, I've actually tried making flash powder for a buddy of mine, to use as special effects in his short films.
Cool! How did it work out?
Pretty good, burned out a little too fast though, so we had to use slightly over-sized charges.
@@vikingshaman3079 I bet it was fun.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh, yeah. Lots !!!
Fun stuff.
very intresting video
When is the repeater video coming?
Hopefully this year.
Arizona Ghostriders ok
Hey, Santee! How about a video on veterans of the Civil War and Indian Wars and any organizations they had in the old west?
Sounds good!
Santee,Next can you do dueling or ummm i dont know the most famous lawman and outlaws i already know some
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Nice Santee. BATJAC was very photographic too, san's chew tabaca.
Yeah, he was really into that chaw.
Greetings from Ireland. Great one, very interesting. How about doing one on road traffic accidents, I'll bet they were gorey.
Interesting idea, Bernard. A famous gunfighter lost his life when he fell off the wagon and got crushed by the wheels.
loved it :)
At the state Fair in my state of South Dakota the fair aways has a old West style cam place. don't know if they use the old process or not but who knows.
Most places have all the outfits and props and just process in black and white or sepia.
Nice information
Arizona Ghostriders, Before the crystal type they used a shadow box too. Many years ago my oldest son & I got our's taken with one. It was still in working condition which made it even a cool treat. But no I didn't wear one of those fancy lady getups...dusters, hats shot gun & pistil & we was set. Man do we still to this day treasure that picture. Blessings
Thank you!
Santee, always great. I have one other subscription on TH-cam, WonderHussy, also known as Sarah Jane, and she did a great video on tintypes. Here's a link:
th-cam.com/video/asrCX7n3eRk/w-d-xo.html
As for my TH-cam subscriptions, Arizona Ghostriders and WonderHussy Adventures are the best, the only two I always watch!
Thanks Santee ! Ive seen old photos of deceased outlaws taken after they had met the end of their careers in crime . I reckon a corpse makes for a really steady subject to take a picture of . LOL !
Yeah, they didn't move too much!
2:04 hey a picture of my great grandfather
Pretty cool!
Nice!
And of course the AGR logo gives the skeleton something to gaze upon while he poses... Haha nice
HEHEHE!!!
Howdy Santee. Great video
Hello from Romania 🇷🇴
Salut!
Some people back in the day were scared that the photograph would take their soul away
Only the weirdos! HA!
This was awesome! But did you hear about the guy out in Texas? Apparently there's a picture of him smiling! How crazy do you have too be too stand there for 30 sustained seconds too take a picture? (Lol please someone get the movie reference)
HA!