So, this would be one of last Celeron processor based products, since Intel is abandoning both Celeron & Pentium line-up, and replacing it with "Intel Processor" named line-up.
It was probably difficult sell celeron as a viable platform as we started getting i7 and i9 power houses (heck, even i3 is starting to look poverty spec, and that's coming from someone with a PC from 2014)
@@TheRealAlpha2 it's all nameflation... i9 in laptops? yeah right... it's not an i9 but they try to upsell it by the same without giving the real thing... same with GPU's like 3080 in laptops... but performs like a 3070 at best... so much dishonesty in naming and this machine here, Celeron or "i25" (whatever they rename it to make it sound more uber) is still enough for most people doing normal PC tasks (serious PC gamers excluded) with a mix of low end games to boot
It's amazing that we can make computers so small now! I love the idea of micro pcs for offices or even schools there cheap but get the performance needed for those settings
Obviously a bit of a niche case, but the company should really make a power bank with the exact same dimensions so it's easily stack-able. With 18650 cells we could fit seven cells for a total of 20 000 mAh in a single layer. That's ~74 Wh, or 10-14 hours of less demanding use.
And its even much more powerful then my pc that i use for 12 years!! Actualy my first pc, i got it at 2004 and replace it with a laptop at 2016, i just used that pc for writing stuff, not really need so much power to do that so dont hate me for not letting my 12yo pc to rest 🙃
I have the 3Q. PROS The best feature is the possibility to TOTALLY DISABLE Intel ME in the BIOS and the RAM DISK feature, also in the BIOS. It also has custom RTC routines and auto-turn-on after power failure. CONS BUT, the M2 is NVME/PCIE gen3 *x2*, not x4 !!! And it runs in SINGLE CHANNEL MODE only...
I would love to see how well Manjaro with the XFCE desktop environment would run on here. Also would love to see Chrome OS Flex running on here and how well that performs too. Also when paired with a Bluetooth keyboard with touchpad built-in along side 3 USB to RS 232 serial adapters and an 8 outlet surge protector and a small HDMI monitor this would make a great little PC for serial console connections to a 3 device Cisco networking stack of rack mount equipment if you have a little shelf to set it on.
A nice use case for one of these would be to bolt it into the glovebox and use it as a travel PC little bit of gaming on the go, streaming, easily get your emails, maps, etc.
I was on the fence between this Quieter3C and the older Quieter3Q. For anyone wondering, although the cpu and ram are the same, for whatver reason the Quieter3Q is faster. This was confirmed by another review I saw and they did benchmarking of both.
i like the mele i bought one when i had to move from spain to mexico so i had a pc with me till i bought a new one. i think the only thing was lacking is that it gets to hot and then it gets less workable. i think they should put a small fan to keep it lower in temp.
I got similar Mini PC > MinisForum-JB95 with the same CPU, but you can choose more than 8GB Single RAM I choose 16GB RAM in Dual, 512GB Nvme disk and 1TB sata3 ssd. Windows 11 and second disk Linux. Isn't fanless and fan often start to run because is only 800Mhz/2.9Ghz but isn't that loud. Cant wait for Quieter 3 with the celeron 6000 with min 16GB RAM in DUAL mode.
I'd love to see something like Batocera running on it and see how some emulators fair on it. Also what was that battery pack that you were using? Having the battery percentage on it looks to be useful.
I was thinking that batocera would be a nice option to use on this small pc rather than crap win11 lol. Still a good option over the over priced pi4 now.
With my minisforum um690s I can lock the tdp to 15 watts aswell, it normally runs at 45-54w so while running that configuration it is very silent. It also idles around 4 watts with gaming pulling all 15watts. Gaming performance is also very good at 15watts, and it doesnt get hotter than 50 celcius. Now in case you want to do 8k 60 streaming, or play more demanding games, like doom eternal ultra settings, 1080p stable 60, you'll need to up the tdp to 35-45watts. But it's still all in one package, with mix and match.
Really enjoy your videos, but one comment I would like to make as regards USB -A, most specifically the mess that is the 3rd generation. Can you please specify in your reviews whether the USB 3.X are Gen 1 or Gen 2 (ie support data at 5gb or 10gb). Manufacturers take advantage of the ambiguity in the specs and naming convention and depending on use, there is a BIG difference between the two.
Most important question for this whole vid review is, what is the maximum power that can be delivered from the Mele to the monitor? No point for the viewers to buy the Mele and the monitor and at the end of the day, it just simply not capable of powering them up.
Thanks for all of your videos, I've watched a heap of these mini PC ones, and I think this is going to be my pick. I'm not gaming, instead I need a portable digital art tablet. My plan is to use this mini PC with a usb C portable power supply, and run everything on a Huion kamvas 13 tablet with a bluetooth keyboard. I take a ferry every week, as well as just need some mobility from my whole art station. The usb C monitor display is a game changer, because some tablet cables would end up being bulkier than this PC, and with usb C i can buy longer cables. Would be nice to get a 16gb, but if all I'm doing is Photoshop and Excel, this is perfect and better than a laptop, which would require me to work at a desk, becausue having a laptop and a drawing tablet on my lap would eventually cause one to slide off and potentially get damaged.
Question, will most monitors today be able to hook up with just the one cable? If not what do I have to look for in a monitor to be able to use the one cable hook up? Thanks!!
A few questions: - How does it handle Visut Studio? - Can it be powered from a USB power source? -is it ppossible to enable virtualization in the BIOS?
Other than connecting the screen cable, I don't think I saw you connecting the keyboard and mouse. How are you using the keyboard and mouse on this type of PC?
how does it handle light multitasking... 8 tabs in edge, excel, word and outlook, spotify can it do normal office work or is a grandpa 1 thing at a time kind of pc.
fanless Newsmay AC8 (may be branded as SZBOX and other) has 6005 what should fit better to games. AC8 for better temps needs to remove meshes, to resetup cooler on better paste, to install drivers from PC producer's site
I would love to see how Ubuntu handles on it. I would run one with windows and mine with Ubuntu. I am planning on picking one up either way as a low power alternative to my fiancé's 1000W gaming machine...that she mostly uses for watching netflix. with power prices doubling in my area this winter.
Hi may I know what is the difference of a PS Plus subscription in console and the one in the video PS Plus pc sub, is that the same subscription for both console or pc , sorry for my ignorance... peace thanks
In your Morefine video, you didn't use the power from the monitor to power the minipc, or was it that the Morefine is not capable of supporting this feature like the 3Q?
Another great video, it is nice to see mini pc that can also play light titles or older games, can it run some emulators too? Like ppsspp and dreamcast emulators or ps2 emu or it is too much for the pc like Quieter3c?
Took a look at this form factor size earlier this year. Really like it. But heard that there are potential issue running ProxMox on N5105. Thank you Prime.
This is actually not the current version The current version uses Windows 11 pro it will also take a four terabyte M2 stick so you're getting a lot more with the new one then you have with the one that's being listed here and I believe the new one which I just got supports 3 HDMIs of 4K
I know you say you'd recommend just buying a laptop of you were to use a setup with a power source but honestly I live out of my backpack and already carry a battery on me and there's screens I can plug into most places I go so having a mini pc to me is better that carrying an expensive and delicate laptop or tablet. I'm still trying to find the right device that is as small as possible but that can still locally run some older AAA games and at least run photo and video apps well but also ideally can handle 3d rendering and Ai generation . If anyone has any recommendations along. Those lines please let me know
Linux please. Debian if possible. Need to know if these types of systems have any extra steps to get that integrated video playing 4k like in Windows. Would be very helpful.
man. this thing would be amazing with an amd apu. Im not talking about the new ones because they are power hungry. i want to make a handheld pc with a BB Q20 keyboard.
Thank you for the review! :) Could a USB C touchscreen turn it into a Windows tablet? The idea behind the question (just for context), was to use it as a telescope mounted mini pc to controll the telescope mount, camera ect. and just having one USB C cable to a touchscreen instead of a whole notebook for a VNC session over WiFi.
Too bad it only supports up to 1TB. It's still decent, but it would be cool if it minimal could support up to 2TB SSD. This could be a great PC to take along with you when you travel or backpacking a lot. Just way smaller then a laptop and you almost always have a modern TV screen nowadays in simpel hotel rooms. because of that it would have been neat if it was also supporting bigger SSD's. So you could also use it to backup cameras or recordings etc. And just work on your things when inside the hotel. Way better then have to anything on the smartphone.
ETA Prime...you should check out people using the iPhone se 2020 4k on luma fusion.... for its price to preformance its kicking every low end chipset a** Everyday Dad does a video on it... maybe you should start checking out the A13 chips.
I might consider something like this for a mobile developing server for my iPad. Connect this to the iPad, start a coder-server instance on it and code basically everything I need
So, this would be one of last Celeron processor based products, since Intel is abandoning both Celeron & Pentium line-up, and replacing it with "Intel Processor" named line-up.
It was probably difficult sell celeron as a viable platform as we started getting i7 and i9 power houses (heck, even i3 is starting to look poverty spec, and that's coming from someone with a PC from 2014)
These really should be on core-U series chips. An i3 or i5 at 15W shouldn't throttle in a package like this.
@@TheRealAlpha2 it's all nameflation... i9 in laptops? yeah right... it's not an i9 but they try to upsell it by the same without giving the real thing... same with GPU's like 3080 in laptops... but performs like a 3070 at best... so much dishonesty in naming
and this machine here, Celeron or "i25" (whatever they rename it to make it sound more uber) is still enough for most people doing normal PC tasks (serious PC gamers excluded) with a mix of low end games to boot
Maybe for 14th gen
The pentium/celeron will hv a big jump in igpu
It's amazing that we can make computers so small now! I love the idea of micro pcs for offices or even schools there cheap but get the performance needed for those settings
Obviously a bit of a niche case, but the company should really make a power bank with the exact same dimensions so it's easily stack-able. With 18650 cells we could fit seven cells for a total of 20 000 mAh in a single layer. That's ~74 Wh, or 10-14 hours of less demanding use.
pretty sure somebody would've thought of this and made a 3D printed case with the battery in it. I'd love to see that!
And its even much more powerful then my pc that i use for 12 years!! Actualy my first pc, i got it at 2004 and replace it with a laptop at 2016, i just used that pc for writing stuff, not really need so much power to do that so dont hate me for not letting my 12yo pc to rest 🙃
I have the 3Q.
PROS
The best feature is the possibility to TOTALLY DISABLE Intel ME in the BIOS and the RAM DISK feature, also in the BIOS.
It also has custom RTC routines and auto-turn-on after power failure.
CONS
BUT, the M2 is NVME/PCIE gen3 *x2*, not x4 !!!
And it runs in SINGLE CHANNEL MODE only...
I would love to see how well Manjaro with the XFCE desktop environment would run on here. Also would love to see Chrome OS Flex running on here and how well that performs too. Also when paired with a Bluetooth keyboard with touchpad built-in along side 3 USB to RS 232 serial adapters and an 8 outlet surge protector and a small HDMI monitor this would make a great little PC for serial console connections to a 3 device Cisco networking stack of rack mount equipment if you have a little shelf to set it on.
A nice use case for one of these would be to bolt it into the glovebox and use it as a travel PC
little bit of gaming on the go, streaming, easily get your emails, maps, etc.
Do you think something like this could run OpenSim locally?
I picked up 2 of the Q series for work. We use them for the meeting room PC's into 2 TV's. Those run great so these would be nice.
This is the perfect device if you need to run visual signage or powerpoint slides on loop to a tv or projector.
I was on the fence between this Quieter3C and the older Quieter3Q. For anyone wondering, although the cpu and ram are the same, for whatver reason the Quieter3Q is faster. This was confirmed by another review I saw and they did benchmarking of both.
Thanks, that's good to know.
I just recently got the 3Q, I'm happy with it.
Slower one should have lower temps to keep near components to work longer. Wifi and SSD is among what may break first, then capacitors.
i like the mele i bought one when i had to move from spain to mexico so i had a pc with me till i bought a new one. i think the only thing was lacking is that it gets to hot and then it gets less workable. i think they should put a small fan to keep it lower in temp.
would be nice checking ubuntu and hadware compatibility out of the box
What for u need ubuntu on it? If i may ask ;)
Like always thank you for sharing!!
4:16 i love when this happens
Larkbox form factor with full function USB C. Appreciate any suggestions. TY
This Display Alt mode is the most important thing for me now that I have nReal Air's.
Ayyy same, im getting one in preparation for nreals windows support
I saw on CNX-software that they are making the Quieter HD3Q with dual channel memory.
@4:15 some audio issues but great video
I got similar Mini PC > MinisForum-JB95 with the same CPU, but you can choose more than 8GB Single RAM I choose 16GB RAM in Dual, 512GB Nvme disk and 1TB sata3 ssd. Windows 11 and second disk Linux. Isn't fanless and fan often start to run because is only 800Mhz/2.9Ghz but isn't that loud.
Cant wait for Quieter 3 with the celeron 6000 with min 16GB RAM in DUAL mode.
ETA should create a website with a live ranking list for the tech he reviews with different categories for emulation, performance, price etc.
3:27.........
THIS is when the specs starts.
Take your time ETAPRIME.
I'd love to see something like Batocera running on it and see how some emulators fair on it. Also what was that battery pack that you were using? Having the battery percentage on it looks to be useful.
I was thinking that batocera would be a nice option to use on this small pc rather than crap win11 lol. Still a good option over the over priced pi4 now.
With my minisforum um690s I can lock the tdp to 15 watts aswell, it normally runs at 45-54w so while running that configuration it is very silent. It also idles around 4 watts with gaming pulling all 15watts. Gaming performance is also very good at 15watts, and it doesnt get hotter than 50 celcius. Now in case you want to do 8k 60 streaming, or play more demanding games, like doom eternal ultra settings, 1080p stable 60, you'll need to up the tdp to 35-45watts. But it's still all in one package, with mix and match.
Really enjoy your videos, but one comment I would like to make as regards USB -A, most specifically the mess that is the 3rd generation. Can you please specify in your reviews whether the USB 3.X are Gen 1 or Gen 2 (ie support data at 5gb or 10gb). Manufacturers take advantage of the ambiguity in the specs and naming convention and depending on use, there is a BIG difference between the two.
Thanx for the video. Would make a nice video player though a little expensive.
Most important question for this whole vid review is, what is the maximum power that can be delivered from the Mele to the monitor? No point for the viewers to buy the Mele and the monitor and at the end of the day, it just simply not capable of powering them up.
Thanks for all of your videos, I've watched a heap of these mini PC ones, and I think this is going to be my pick. I'm not gaming, instead I need a portable digital art tablet. My plan is to use this mini PC with a usb C portable power supply, and run everything on a Huion kamvas 13 tablet with a bluetooth keyboard. I take a ferry every week, as well as just need some mobility from my whole art station. The usb C monitor display is a game changer, because some tablet cables would end up being bulkier than this PC, and with usb C i can buy longer cables.
Would be nice to get a 16gb, but if all I'm doing is Photoshop and Excel, this is perfect and better than a laptop, which would require me to work at a desk, becausue having a laptop and a drawing tablet on my lap would eventually cause one to slide off and potentially get damaged.
Question, will most monitors today be able to hook up with just the one cable? If not what do I have to look for in a monitor to be able to use the one cable hook up? Thanks!!
What's the Emulation Ceiling on this? Dreamcast? Gamecube?
Probably some ps2 as well
5:47 It's not playing in HDR !! the Color code is bt709. There must be "bt2020"
Another great and informative video Prime. How's emulation on this?
do like how small the system is, surpised by no emulation test, I guess it would be fine up to PS2/PS3 era.
Probably won't do ps3 at all and struggle with ps2. I definitely want to see emulation tested on it.
This model has the same processor as the Quieter 3Q. Check that video for analogous performance results.
@@ELLOHELLWAT cheers!
With 4 cores? I don’t think ps3 would work well at all
Can you please test if it can do 4 displays out if you daisy chain 2 monitors from the mini display port?
To put it on the tv I have next to me would work very well haha.
Can you put a USB powered peltier cooler on the case to lower the temps?
I think that I would pay a little extra and get the DingDian S3, which would be worth a direct comparison with this.
Will I be able use this pc for pihole and SearX personal search engine setups?
Sorry to ask this, but what do you suggest is a good laptop for emulation? I'm to new to pc gaming and emulation.
A few questions:
- How does it handle Visut Studio?
- Can it be powered from a USB power source?
-is it ppossible to enable virtualization in the BIOS?
4:16 🤣
i need something like that that can run on power bank for 8 hours
Other than connecting the screen cable, I don't think I saw you connecting the keyboard and mouse. How are you using the keyboard and mouse on this type of PC?
My guy u must make a HP Dev One Full Review its awesome as well :)
Speaker jack on back? Yes!!!
Dual channel ram? Nooooooooo!
I was this close 😂
Why don't they make such PC with Intel Core i3 class processor at least? What should I do if I need very compact, but high performance PC?
If you can get one for a good price it might be worth buying.
I'm curious as to how well this works with Nreal AR glasses.
Great video as well as your other vids. Would love to see this run m2 out to a graphics card if possible. TY
how does it handle light multitasking... 8 tabs in edge, excel, word and outlook, spotify
can it do normal office work or is a grandpa 1 thing at a time kind of pc.
that singular m.2 slot makes me very interested to try an egpu on
fanless Newsmay AC8 (may be branded as SZBOX and other) has 6005 what should fit better to games. AC8 for better temps needs to remove meshes, to resetup cooler on better paste, to install drivers from PC producer's site
hmm. even under 300. so its not that bad of a price. i want to get something with the n5105 cpu. not sure if im ready to pull a trigger yet tho
I paid $220 for my Q. I thought it was a pretty good deal.
I would love to see how Ubuntu handles on it. I would run one with windows and mine with Ubuntu. I am planning on picking one up either way as a low power alternative to my fiancé's 1000W gaming machine...that she mostly uses for watching netflix. with power prices doubling in my area this winter.
I just bought a Q recently. It's very small and quiet.
Hi may I know what is the difference of a PS Plus subscription in console and the one in the video PS Plus pc sub, is that the same subscription for both console or pc , sorry for my ignorance... peace thanks
Hopefully one day any of these systems will compare in form factor to what an intel compute stick used to be
Check out the MeLe PCG02 Stick PC. It might be what you'd like. Less capable CPU than the Queiter3C, but perhaps good enough for your needs.
Perfect for Astrophotography 👍
Just curious, would this support a pair of webcams @1080p and two instances of OBS for recording?
Wish list: Dual channel memory, would prefer to see 2x hdmi instead of the display port, and low power AMD APU.
dual channel, new n6005, more thicc heatsink
In your Morefine video, you didn't use the power from the monitor to power the minipc, or was it that the Morefine is not capable of supporting this feature like the 3Q?
M6?
Hi!
I'm wondering can I play GFN(Gforce now) at 2k/144hz?
Another great video, it is nice to see mini pc that can also play light titles or older games, can it run some emulators too? Like ppsspp and dreamcast emulators or ps2 emu or it is too much for the pc like Quieter3c?
That's pretty good for something that pulls 15w max
Took a look at this form factor size earlier this year. Really like it. But heard that there are potential issue running ProxMox on N5105. Thank you Prime.
Just install Linux and docker
@@jj-icejoe6642 Thank you, neighbor and friend.
Could we see batocera running to see what this is able to emulate please?
Would this PC be able to run a Monitor at 1440p 144hz?
I second this question?
This is actually not the current version The current version uses Windows 11 pro it will also take a four terabyte M2 stick so you're getting a lot more with the new one then you have with the one that's being listed here and I believe the new one which I just got supports 3 HDMIs of 4K
Test ak1 pro .. plis ?
can you test the Minis Forum JB95?
Would this be good for a PLEX server?
What battery pack were you using?
My pc recently was giving me some issiuses so im considering this one a a replacement.
Only slightly bigger than a Pi, nice
So can this be used in place of a Nvidia shield with os navigation done through controller? That would be miles ahead of the aging shield device.
Yes, of course. Why not? :)
1440p 144hz cloud gaming? Do you thing youd run into any issues?
I know you say you'd recommend just buying a laptop of you were to use a setup with a power source but honestly I live out of my backpack and already carry a battery on me and there's screens I can plug into most places I go so having a mini pc to me is better that carrying an expensive and delicate laptop or tablet. I'm still trying to find the right device that is as small as possible but that can still locally run some older AAA games and at least run photo and video apps well but also ideally can handle 3d rendering and Ai generation . If anyone has any recommendations along. Those lines please let me know
What is the AI generation feature for?
Is there any Fanless mini PC with N5105 chip (or newer) that runs dual channel RAM?
Can you recommend a Mini PC For Programming and Video viewing. With a single power in and video out type C support. Thanks
will this work wit nexdock 360?
I have a nexdock 360 delivering soon. I am tempted to test this. Do you still want to know if it works?
What about emulation? What can it go up to.
Yes this I would like to know!
@@deedsy404 I would also like to know about gamepass and stadia as if its good can make a portable emulator/stream machine to link up to tvs
Wonder how the system would work for transcoding with plex as a server.
What monitor do you have?
would this be able to handle bluray playback from a disc? (usb connected obviously)
Linux please. Debian if possible. Need to know if these types of systems have any extra steps to get that integrated video playing 4k like in Windows. Would be very helpful.
man. this thing would be amazing with an amd apu. Im not talking about the new ones because they are power hungry. i want to make a handheld pc with a BB Q20 keyboard.
Cool, Can you play Killer instinct 1 on Mame ?
any word on the raspberry pad 5 cyberdeck?
Thank you for the review! :) Could a USB C touchscreen turn it into a Windows tablet? The idea behind the question (just for context), was to use it as a telescope mounted mini pc to controll the telescope mount, camera ect. and just having one USB C cable to a touchscreen instead of a whole notebook for a VNC session over WiFi.
Yes it does :)
Is there a new BIOS update?
How do I update the BIOS for this device??
Would it be better to get an Android instead for the simulation, which will be a better choice? Im new to this.
Too bad it only supports up to 1TB. It's still decent, but it would be cool if it minimal could support up to 2TB SSD.
This could be a great PC to take along with you when you travel or backpacking a lot.
Just way smaller then a laptop and you almost always have a modern TV screen nowadays in simpel hotel rooms.
because of that it would have been neat if it was also supporting bigger SSD's. So you could also use it to backup cameras or recordings etc. And just work on your things when inside the hotel. Way better then have to anything on the smartphone.
ETA Prime...you should check out people using the iPhone se 2020 4k on luma fusion.... for its price to preformance its kicking every low end chipset a** Everyday Dad does a video on it... maybe you should start checking out the A13 chips.
Can it handle dota 2 super low settings.?
I might consider something like this for a mobile developing server for my iPad. Connect this to the iPad, start a coder-server instance on it and code basically everything I need
Imagine having those in schools instead of having pentium windows 7 PCs 🤩🤩
What kinda games can this run on, steam?
can you attach a external gpu to this?
4:15 u are ok bro?
That stroke xd
Best test
Can you show emulation on hid