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Easy. Given that I’m dealing with advertising (generally) I know what each track is and it’s easy to keep track of. When you start getting into 20+ tracks then I might name the tracks. Don’t forget that the individual clips are already named. Naming tracks though is super easy in either MT or in the mixer.
Hi! Great video! Is there a way to crossfade or automate between sending a track(s) to a bus? For instance I have a long recording of an event that had both speaking segments and songs. I want to include a denoise effect, but only during the speaking sections (portions of the same clip). Is it possible to automate/crossfade sending a track output to bus with the effect and then back to the regular mix (or another bus)? I could automate the effect as a clip effect on the multitrack editor, bring it up and down, but I cut the source clip in various spaces, plus there are 2 tracks I want to send to the same denoise effect, so it would be a lot of work keyframing the effect up and down on multiple tracks. Thanks!
@@iffyswitch I will check next time I’m in, but I would imagine you can automate send level. I think what I’d do is just move everything that needs the effect to another track and apply it there. Lock all the clips in time on the original track and then move what needs the effect to a new track. Or move what doesn’t need the effect to a new track. Since it’s locked in time it’s easy to move to an empty track and still be at correct time.
@@craigjackman5874 Thanks!...What if there are 2 tracks that I want to apply to the denoise effect (the left and right of a stereo mic in the back of a noisy room)?...an automated send level seems like it would be the answer but i can't figure out if that is available in Audition. Thanks again!
I suppose you could do that. Use the Dynamics Processor as an expander not an compressor. Move the curve in Dynamics Processor above the 1:1 ratio line to a 1:3 ratio.
Welcome. Great movies. I hope you will still record some tutorials. Please tell me what the audio processing order should be in Adobe Audition? I know that you have much more experience in this matter, so I am asking for help. From what I found out: 1. Noise reduction 2. EQ - Parametric EQ 3. Dynamic Processing / Single Band Compressor/ Tube Modelated Compressor 4. Normalize 5. DeEsser 6. Hard Limiter 7. Noise Reduction (if needed)
I would be recording cleanly, in a good recording environment so that Noise Reduction is not needed. You shouldn't need Noise Reduction on everything. It's a tool I would use sparingly. I never use DeEsser. Ever. If someone has a sibilance problem better to correct it physically with mic type and placement, or get them to work on their sibilance. For the other tools, I would use Normalize first to ensure your levels are starting at a consistent point. Normalize is not an excuse for poor levels, but it puts your levels at a consistent point before further processing. Next is either EQ or compression. If you EQ first, you are then compressing the frequencies you just expanded. If you compress first, you are expanding frequencies you just compressed. Both approaches are correct depending on what you are trying to do. They do sound slightly different. For EQ I prefer parametric, but graphic works well. I prefer the Tube Modeled Compressor or the compressor in the Dynamics module only. They provide standard compressor settings and provide a gain reduction meter so you can see how much compression you are using. I use the Dynamics Processing module for side chain, but it works fine as a compressor as well. Lastly I would use Hard Limiter if needed. You might not need it, but I use it gently, just to cut off some stray peaks. Of course you can always use 3rd party VST effects, but the ones in Audition are as good as anything else (with exceptions) in my experience.
@@craigjackman5874 Wow. Thank you very much for the detailed answer. I did not think you would write back. Thank you very much and I appreciate it;) If I can, I would be happy to ask about something else - if you don't have time, write later. My main question is: how do professionals record audio - such as a voiceover - is it better to set a lower level on the recording device? I use the Zoom H6 - let's say gain 5 and then boost the levels with normalization, or is it better to set the gain to 7-8 with the limiter to cut the pickups. I mean the noise level - how to make it as low as possible, how it should to do it correctly. This bothers me a lot: is it better to input a smaller signal and boost in the program (normalize or compressor), or to start with a higher gain and less processing? Second thing about noise processing - Of course, I know that it would be best to record in the studio, but not everyone has that opportunity. Especially in small towns like mine. That is why denoise is necessary even a little. I have the feeling that I am doing it wrong all the time. So please tell me what it is like with a professional process if it needs to be done. Should I apply noise reduction before normalizing - or only after the whole process, compressors and eq? Some people say that applying it before the process is better - because we remove noise at the start, and then normalization and the compressor raises quiet sounds and without the initial noise reduction, a massacre is made. Nevertheless, I do not know if such preliminary noise reduction does not change the sound quality, or not it is better to do it at the end - because we have already processed audio and we know how much we can afford with noise reduction. In my ear, noise reduction sounds better at the beginning before the process, but I'm curious how it should be done, because maybe I'm doing it wrong. I would very much like not to do it, but it is inevitable in a block of flats. When I do it at the end, I have the impression that the juiciness of the recording is dropping ... all this richness of sound seems flattened ... I also have problems with the EQ because I don't always hear the difference. If someone does not have musical hearing, even listening with good headphones can be a problem. Sometimes I have the impression that the EQ can also spoil the effect, so usually I limit myself to normalization, compression and hard limiter to cut the peaks. I still need to practice this. It is EQ needed always? I am also interested in what is the main difference between multiband compressor and parametric equalizer. What's the main difference between the two tools? An ordinary compressor like single band or tube modeled works on the entire graph, in the case of multiband it could work on specific frequencies and raise or lower them - compress them, so what is the difference in the case of parametric eq, if we can also raise or lower - cut out unwanted frequency there? I understand the difference between regular compressor and eq, but what's the difference between multi-stage compressor and eq? I know that for professionals like You, what I am asking may seems obvious. Sorry about that. I am so sorry for the inconvenience. However, all the time I need a person who records sound professionally and can help an amateur - at least show the way and order. You know that in sound just as much as you can improve the quality, you can also spoil it very easily. Write back in your free time. No rush. Thank you for your time. I really appreciate that and thank You a lot for Your help. It's irreplaceable to hear this from someone in the music industry. Sorry for my english. I am not from USA or England ;(
@@TheHotshizzle25 What the gain setting number is is immaterial. Gain setting is totally dependent on the source audio. Quiet sound sources need a higher gain. Loud sources need a lower gain. Every single recording should strive to have a peak level as close to 0 as possible WITHOUT going over. If you record an audio file too low, when you amplify it you also amplify the built in noise floor. If you record too loud an audio file it’s going to go over 0 and be distorted. Your device is fine for on location recording but is not a studio quality device. That’s fine it that’s what you want. If you want “professional” recordings, you’re going to be limited by your hardware. For on location voice recording it’s fine. I use an H1 for that. I give up quality for convenience of on location. How to make your recordings sound better? Doesn’t matter where you are, find a quiet room. If you want to eliminate a lot of room sounds, built a pillow fort or record with a blanket over the voice and mic. Record in a car. There are ways to do it and clean up the recording atmosphere before recording.
@@craigjackman5874 Thank you for your answer. I understand. What you say is completely true, but by turning on the limiter I can set the gain at Zoom to per example 8 (levels on yellow), because the limiter cuts these pikes at the moment of recording and not destroy the top (I think), but also I can record it to gain 6 - the levels will on the green level, but then I have to normalize it - and makes more noise. So at that moment I dont know which is better and this moment is very important to me. But If You said that that doesnt matter so... its ok ;) It would be nice to build a fort out of pillows, but it's worse when you record a video on TH-cam, where not only sound, but also video is recorded. And that's the point, sometimes despite the will, it is practically very difficult to eliminate these factors and clean the atmosphere before recording. Hence these questions about noise reduction at the postproduction. Perhaps you can say something more about it, as well as about my other questions in past post? I will be very grateful and sorry for the inconvenience. Everyone strives for perfection. I would like to get at least a substitute a little. Please, please help
Incredibly helpful, very competent and more impressive is the clarity and simplicity you've explained a difficult tricky process...with no frills , gimmicky buffoonery or segwaying off topic. Thank You, your subscribership & "thumbs up" numbers DOES NOT reflect the real value and quality of content/information of this video.
Thank you. Glad to help
Thank you. Glad to help
Wow that was really interesting and also a fantastic job you did there. Love the echo effect also
Great job explaining. Well done.
Thanks so much! That was a fantastic explanation
sends at 5:25
Por qué mi pista bus amplifica la señal o sube los db, se termina escuchando mas fuerte que la señal original (sin aplicar ningún plugin al bus)
Thanks for sharing ... much appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Clearly you are just showing us a workflow, but how can you work without naming your tracks?
Easy. Given that I’m dealing with advertising (generally) I know what each track is and it’s easy to keep track of. When you start getting into 20+ tracks then I might name the tracks. Don’t forget that the individual clips are already named. Naming tracks though is super easy in either MT or in the mixer.
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Hi! Great video!
Is there a way to crossfade or automate between sending a track(s) to a bus?
For instance I have a long recording of an event that had both speaking segments and songs. I want to include a denoise effect, but only during the speaking sections (portions of the same clip). Is it possible to automate/crossfade sending a track output to bus with the effect and then back to the regular mix (or another bus)?
I could automate the effect as a clip effect on the multitrack editor, bring it up and down, but I cut the source clip in various spaces, plus there are 2 tracks I want to send to the same denoise effect, so it would be a lot of work keyframing the effect up and down on multiple tracks.
Thanks!
@@iffyswitch I will check next time I’m in, but I would imagine you can automate send level. I think what I’d do is just move everything that needs the effect to another track and apply it there. Lock all the clips in time on the original track and then move what needs the effect to a new track. Or move what doesn’t need the effect to a new track. Since it’s locked in time it’s easy to move to an empty track and still be at correct time.
@@craigjackman5874 Thanks!...What if there are 2 tracks that I want to apply to the denoise effect (the left and right of a stereo mic in the back of a noisy room)?...an automated send level seems like it would be the answer but i can't figure out if that is available in Audition. Thanks again!
Thanks for this.
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How do you do parallel processing in adobe audition cc?
Take a send out in multitrack mixer. Send goes to a new bus, then add your processing on the bus.
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Is it possible to reverse ducking? So that a second track becomes louder when the first kicks out a signal (as opposed to becoming quieter)?
I suppose you could do that. Use the Dynamics Processor as an expander not an compressor. Move the curve in Dynamics Processor above the 1:1 ratio line to a 1:3 ratio.
Welcome. Great movies. I hope you will still record some tutorials. Please tell me what the audio processing order should be in Adobe Audition? I know that you have much more experience in this matter, so I am asking for help. From what I found out:
1. Noise reduction
2. EQ - Parametric EQ
3. Dynamic Processing / Single Band Compressor/ Tube Modelated Compressor
4. Normalize
5. DeEsser
6. Hard Limiter
7. Noise Reduction (if needed)
I would be recording cleanly, in a good recording environment so that Noise Reduction is not needed. You shouldn't need Noise Reduction on everything. It's a tool I would use sparingly. I never use DeEsser. Ever. If someone has a sibilance problem better to correct it physically with mic type and placement, or get them to work on their sibilance. For the other tools, I would use Normalize first to ensure your levels are starting at a consistent point. Normalize is not an excuse for poor levels, but it puts your levels at a consistent point before further processing. Next is either EQ or compression. If you EQ first, you are then compressing the frequencies you just expanded. If you compress first, you are expanding frequencies you just compressed. Both approaches are correct depending on what you are trying to do. They do sound slightly different. For EQ I prefer parametric, but graphic works well. I prefer the Tube Modeled Compressor or the compressor in the Dynamics module only. They provide standard compressor settings and provide a gain reduction meter so you can see how much compression you are using. I use the Dynamics Processing module for side chain, but it works fine as a compressor as well. Lastly I would use Hard Limiter if needed. You might not need it, but I use it gently, just to cut off some stray peaks. Of course you can always use 3rd party VST effects, but the ones in Audition are as good as anything else (with exceptions) in my experience.
@@craigjackman5874 Wow. Thank you very much for the detailed answer. I did not think you would write back. Thank you very much and I appreciate it;)
If I can, I would be happy to ask about something else - if you don't have time, write later.
My main question is: how do professionals record audio - such as a voiceover - is it better to set a lower level on the recording device? I use the Zoom H6 - let's say gain 5 and then boost the levels with normalization, or is it better to set the gain to 7-8 with the limiter to cut the pickups. I mean the noise level - how to make it as low as possible, how it should to do it correctly. This bothers me a lot: is it better to input a smaller signal and boost in the program (normalize or compressor), or to start with a higher gain and less processing?
Second thing about noise processing - Of course, I know that it would be best to record in the studio, but not everyone has that opportunity. Especially in small towns like mine. That is why denoise is necessary even a little. I have the feeling that I am doing it wrong all the time. So please tell me what it is like with a professional process if it needs to be done. Should I apply noise reduction before normalizing - or only after the whole process, compressors and eq? Some people say that applying it before the process is better - because we remove noise at the start, and then normalization and the compressor raises quiet sounds and without the initial noise reduction, a massacre is made. Nevertheless, I do not know if such preliminary noise reduction does not change the sound quality, or not it is better to do it at the end - because we have already processed audio and we know how much we can afford with noise reduction.
In my ear, noise reduction sounds better at the beginning before the process, but I'm curious how it should be done, because maybe I'm doing it wrong. I would very much like not to do it, but it is inevitable in a block of flats. When I do it at the end, I have the impression that the juiciness of the recording is dropping ... all this richness of sound seems flattened ...
I also have problems with the EQ because I don't always hear the difference. If someone does not have musical hearing, even listening with good headphones can be a problem. Sometimes I have the impression that the EQ can also spoil the effect, so usually I limit myself to normalization, compression and hard limiter to cut the peaks. I still need to practice this. It is EQ needed always?
I am also interested in what is the main difference between multiband compressor and parametric equalizer. What's the main difference between the two tools? An ordinary compressor like single band or tube modeled works on the entire graph, in the case of multiband it could work on specific frequencies and raise or lower them - compress them, so what is the difference in the case of parametric eq, if we can also raise or lower - cut out unwanted frequency there? I understand the difference between regular compressor and eq, but what's the difference between multi-stage compressor and eq?
I know that for professionals like You, what I am asking may seems obvious. Sorry about that.
I am so sorry for the inconvenience. However, all the time I need a person who records sound professionally and can help an amateur - at least show the way and order. You know that in sound just as much as you can improve the quality, you can also spoil it very easily. Write back in your free time. No rush. Thank you for your time. I really appreciate that and thank You a lot for Your help. It's irreplaceable to hear this from someone in the music industry. Sorry for my english. I am not from USA or England ;(
@@TheHotshizzle25 What the gain setting number is is immaterial. Gain setting is totally dependent on the source audio. Quiet sound sources need a higher gain. Loud sources need a lower gain. Every single recording should strive to have a peak level as close to 0 as possible WITHOUT going over. If you record an audio file too low, when you amplify it you also amplify the built in noise floor. If you record too loud an audio file it’s going to go over 0 and be distorted. Your device is fine for on location recording but is not a studio quality device. That’s fine it that’s what you want. If you want “professional” recordings, you’re going to be limited by your hardware. For on location voice recording it’s fine. I use an H1 for that. I give up quality for convenience of on location. How to make your recordings sound better? Doesn’t matter where you are, find a quiet room. If you want to eliminate a lot of room sounds, built a pillow fort or record with a blanket over the voice and mic. Record in a car. There are ways to do it and clean up the recording atmosphere before recording.
@@craigjackman5874 Thank you for your answer. I understand. What you say is completely true, but by turning on the limiter I can set the gain at Zoom to per example 8 (levels on yellow), because the limiter cuts these pikes at the moment of recording and not destroy the top (I think), but also I can record it to gain 6 - the levels will on the green level, but then I have to normalize it - and makes more noise. So at that moment I dont know which is better and this moment is very important to me. But If You said that that doesnt matter so... its ok ;)
It would be nice to build a fort out of pillows, but it's worse when you record a video on TH-cam, where not only sound, but also video is recorded. And that's the point, sometimes despite the will, it is practically very difficult to eliminate these factors and clean the atmosphere before recording. Hence these questions about noise reduction at the postproduction.
Perhaps you can say something more about it, as well as about my other questions in past post? I will be very grateful and sorry for the inconvenience. Everyone strives for perfection. I would like to get at least a substitute a little. Please, please help
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