I loved: "Walkers are spies for truth... we're the sharp points of isosceles triangles... trusting ourselves to orbital tracks, symbols of the diurnal cycle, darkness into light." I must read Sinclair's book. Wonderful video as usual, many, many thanks!
Loved it. Thanks for making it available online. Two coincidences of note: the hilarious Corbyn cement mixer at 18:15; and the fact that Andrew Kötting's motorbike accident on the Old Kent Road occurred at an intersection adjacent to the McDonalds and shopping centre featured in Patrick Keiller's film, London (1994), which I discovered via Iain Sinclair's Light's Out for the Territory when I first read him several years ago. His writing has enriched my experience of London. I truly hope he isn't finished with the city.
thanks for the comment Bill - I now want to go back to the rushes as I seem to remember Iain mentioned the Patrick Keiller shot from London. Iain is far from finished with London - his new book, Living with Buildings has a large section on London
Thanks, John. That's heartening (about his new book.) I read "Lights Out" after having been away from London for nearly 20 years and then coming back on business regularly three years ago and taking various long walks over a couple years around the metropolitan area while there, guided primarily at first by "Nairn's London." The fact that "Lights Out", and Keiller's "London" film, were written/made in the mid-'90s when I lived there made both very special for me to enjoy. They captured the place I recall from so long ago as I ambled around the city, and taught me about things going on there at the time of which I wasn't aware. And your film of "Overground" covers some of the walks I've recently made. Accordingly, even though I'm very far away, I walk vicariously through the both of you!
Wonderful movie-length video John. Whenever I see your name along with Iain Sinclair and Andrew Kotting, I know we’re in for a treat. We’re not just going around London, we’re going on a trip into the past, present and future and the forgotten recesses of memory. And it’s going to be hard to tell the difference.
These fragments, disjointed, yet encompassing the complexity of London, which most of we Londoners will never see but know somehow, they exist. You show the kaleidoscope but make it a whole
I really enjoyed this film, it took several bites at it though. I had to digest and savour pieces before getting into the next piece. Well done guys, John Rogers can be pleased with this film.
Without doubt the best psychogeographical film ever made about London. What an incredible record to look back on in 20 years time when the capital finally resembles central Los Angeles. Stunning achievement,John. Shame he's apparently reached the end of the line(no pun intended)as far as his London disquisitions go.Let's hope he rethinks that decision in time
Stunning work, I can't quite understand why I hadn't watch it sooner! I've always loved the way you film your walks, John but this one is something else. I'm finally understanding the idea of Psychic Geography thanks to this superb video!
John its Expat Eddie here following from Edmonton Alberta and occasionally from our other property on the deep rural plains of Saskatchewan.Mate ,this vid is totally up a level,its like having a warm bath with a couple of robust vodka and oranges for this Geeza :0)
Amazing film - thanks. For a moment I thought the “Corbyn” rolling around the cement mixer lorry was a special effect! I think this will be a film I come back to to re-absorb from time to time as their is so much in there. One little request - is their one place where I can find all your soundtrack music? Ta.
Thanks Jezzy. The Corbyn moment always gets a laugh at public screenings. Most of the music I use, including here, can be found in the TH-cam Audio Library
1:23 Footnote.. Leon Kossoff and family had a flat on the corner of Bethnal Green Road and Seabright Street, which no longer exists, in the late 50s. I know . He invited Mum ( Auerbach’s “E.O.W”) and our family to it. So he maybe started from here , then to Dalston, then Willesden. Interesting.
Like a fire in the forest new shoots of life emerge look between the cracks it's a cycle, ask him it's a thing to look at we still have many beautiful and interesting things to see in this great country its a never ending journey as you and others are on.
Great stuff John!! Only watched this after finishing your new book. Incredible how areas like Dalston have changed in just a few years. You might like to visit the Iklectik crew in Lambeth, who are having to 'relocate' after having their leases terminated for, guess what...? Their work resulted in a wonderful "temporary autonomous zone" (TAZ) in inner London. Obviously it was a space that Capitol couldn't tolerate any longer.
I'm glad I moved to Brum, nice parks, history equal to that of London and far less expensive. You can still find, well most genuinely normal, not gentrified areas. I don't know why people stick it out in London unless you are born there, already have a house etc. I honestly don't know how creative people manage. The friends I know who have piled thousands into the hands of landlords.
Excellent John! I was wondering if this was ever going to be available. Good Man! Will enjoy this with a couple of bottles over the weekend! Any suggestions?
Just finished reading Ghost Milk, the hardback copy is in mint condition with a Penguin Press Release stating ‘EMBARGOED - NO REVIEWS TO APPEAR BEFORE JULY 3RD’. I found it in a charity shop here in Devon for £2. In the book Chris Petit foretells the coming of ‘eco-fascism’ which has proven to be most prescient! Looking up the name Chris Petit on the internet lead me to TH-cam and this great film - thanks John Rogers.
Terrific. Many many thanks. Loved that saxophone too. Can't see images of the Shard without remembering the Church of Our Lady in Bruges. I'm sure psycho geography thoroughly deserves the romanticism of Sinclair's curmudgeonly cognitive recency bias. Everything's gone down the shitter. Wonderful 📌. Why can't everything be better like it was instead of worse like it is ? Through the eighties I lived in Dalston. Then Seven Sisters. Same harbingery then by the same cohort of art curmudgeons. They were still lamenting the 60s of course.
Haunting....informative...but..just a little middle class looking down and not truly understanding..the life......May I write..."underneath the pavement slabs
What hell is it with the English being so fascinated with every minute mundane of London which is now just a gentrified playground. London has literally sold out to the Bourgeois and idle rich who keep workers out with obscene property prices.
The name of John Rogers brought me here, with the hope and expectation of seeing something about some places in London that I'm familiar with, and the cinematography was excellent. I was also reminded how much of London is a right shithole. And I should have watched with the sound off: by doing so I would have avoided 83 minutes of pretentious pseudo-intellectual wankery.
I like Sinclair. I have walked the villages of London for most of my life. I have stories leaking out of me! And I have witnessed the turn, in our culture. I preferred this film when I simply listened - the camera work being nauseatingly unbearable to watch. Shame - great otherwise. Oh and the sound is pretty painful too. Was it done on an iPhone 4?
Too much noise for me. Disappointing, because I love Sinclair's 2017 'The Last London', and the earlier The Cardinal and the Corpse. I'd love to see the film without the music, if there's a way of doing that.
It is a real benefaction to have this available in full on TH-cam - I haven't read Overground but I did enjoy Orbital - a mentally scarifying read. I think Iain has lost his touch. however - he keeps reading out excerpts from his book to himself, a touch of grandiose narcissism IMO .... and his last book 'The Last London' (which cost me £20) was so esoteric and incestuous I felt designed to make the reader feel excluded from a private party, and I threw away in disgust
Two sad old men , reinforcing Kilburn stereotypes , with tarnished memories of Kilburn pubs. Polish gastro - the Black Lion my ar.... The black lion is a gem and during the era referred to , was a good live music venue. Biddys now gone true , a betting shop . Always do with another betting and chicken shop on the KHR. Biddys wasn't hostile at all except perhaps to pretentious middle-class hikers like these two. Poetic crap that harps back to a London that never really existed and little insight how Londoners experience their own environments and localities. Seem to have a thing about cemeteries - the London of the long dead
A real gem, a treat for people who love London !
And England !!
Amazing film. Thanks for making this available.
I loved: "Walkers are spies for truth... we're the sharp points of isosceles triangles... trusting ourselves to orbital tracks, symbols of the diurnal cycle, darkness into light." I must read Sinclair's book. Wonderful video as usual, many, many thanks!
thanks for watching Carole
Thanks so much for making this available John. My Saturday night viewing sorted. Cheers.
Everything about this film is brilliant.
Great phrases: 'the faster you travel the less you arrive', 'whisper from the future', 'soft-focus integrity'...
'Incubation cubicles for strange dreams.'
Loved it. Thanks for making it available online. Two coincidences of note: the hilarious Corbyn cement mixer at 18:15; and the fact that Andrew Kötting's motorbike accident on the Old Kent Road occurred at an intersection adjacent to the McDonalds and shopping centre featured in Patrick Keiller's film, London (1994), which I discovered via Iain Sinclair's Light's Out for the Territory when I first read him several years ago. His writing has enriched my experience of London. I truly hope he isn't finished with the city.
thanks for the comment Bill - I now want to go back to the rushes as I seem to remember Iain mentioned the Patrick Keiller shot from London. Iain is far from finished with London - his new book, Living with Buildings has a large section on London
Thanks, John. That's heartening (about his new book.) I read "Lights Out" after having been away from London for nearly 20 years and then coming back on business regularly three years ago and taking various long walks over a couple years around the metropolitan area while there, guided primarily at first by "Nairn's London." The fact that "Lights Out", and Keiller's "London" film, were written/made in the mid-'90s when I lived there made both very special for me to enjoy. They captured the place I recall from so long ago as I ambled around the city, and taught me about things going on there at the time of which I wasn't aware. And your film of "Overground" covers some of the walks I've recently made. Accordingly, even though I'm very far away, I walk vicariously through the both of you!
thanks for putting this up, I've read the book, now seen the film , i just need the t-shirt now lol
Fantastic. Thanks for making this available. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
thanks David - glad you enjoyed it
Only just found the time to watch this! Packed with so much info and insight. Really enjoyed this. Thank you John.
Glad you enjoyed it Leon
This is the kind of gems you can find on TH-cam .regards John and friends 👏👏👏👏
Loved this - thank you for making this available.
That was a real treat to watch. Thank you.
Brilliant to see this on here, John. Looking forward to watching it soon. Thanks for putting it up!
Hope you enjoy it Brian
Really beautifully shot, in addition to the compelling content of it all...
thanks bennozoid
This is just one tiny shot, but the one of Sinclair going by with the leaves fluttering around him, really stood out to me.
Thanks for this. Remarkable stuff.
that was remarkable - i'll have to re-watch this as there's so much to take in - well-done to all involved, cheers!
Wonderful movie-length video John. Whenever I see your name along with Iain Sinclair and Andrew Kotting, I know we’re in for a treat. We’re not just going around London, we’re going on a trip into the past, present and future and the forgotten recesses of memory. And it’s going to be hard to tell the difference.
thanks so much for that Ross - it was such a pleasure making this film
This is a real treat. Thank you friend
my pleasure Leighton - glad you enjoyed it
These fragments, disjointed, yet encompassing the complexity of London, which most of we Londoners will never see but know somehow, they exist. You show the kaleidoscope but make it a whole
Ritual, remembrance, exorcism and all bundled up in a film about the London Overground. Fantastic work John, thanks for this.
thanks Arthur
I really enjoyed this film, it took several bites at it though. I had to digest and savour pieces before getting into the next piece. Well done guys, John Rogers can be pleased with this film.
many thanks
Without doubt the best psychogeographical film ever made about London. What an incredible record to look back on in 20 years time when the capital finally resembles central Los Angeles. Stunning achievement,John. Shame he's apparently reached the end of the line(no pun intended)as far as his London disquisitions go.Let's hope he rethinks that decision in time
Thanks very much Patricia- it was such a pleasure to make this film. Iain has a new book out in September that contains plenty of London wanderings
There is no central Los Angeles, do you mean down town?
South Central, I think.@@JonGem1001
Magnificient, John. Just magnificent.
ah nice thank you John will watch this over the weekend. cheers buddy.
my pleasure David - hope you enjoy it
Stunning work, I can't quite understand why I hadn't watch it sooner! I've always loved the way you film your walks, John but this one is something else. I'm finally understanding the idea of Psychic Geography thanks to this superb video!
Most enjoyable. And something that will repay in revisiting.
Thanks cichlidsid
the crown jewel of an episode
Thank you cette
thank you, what a gem
John its Expat Eddie here following from Edmonton Alberta and occasionally from our other property on the deep rural plains of Saskatchewan.Mate ,this vid is totally up a level,its like having a warm bath with a couple of robust vodka and oranges for this Geeza :0)
Looking forward to tucking into this tonight. Opening shots look great... Thank you.
hope you enjoy it Blake
Morning John - half way though this, thanks for sharing it.
Wonderful video!
Great Really looking forward to watching this.Cheers.
Amazing film - thanks. For a moment I thought the “Corbyn” rolling around the cement mixer lorry was a special effect! I think this will be a film I come back to to re-absorb from time to time as their is so much in there. One little request - is their one place where I can find all your soundtrack music? Ta.
Thanks Jezzy. The Corbyn moment always gets a laugh at public screenings. Most of the music I use, including here, can be found in the TH-cam Audio Library
One of my favourite films .
Mind blowing video really really Beautiful city #London thank you @John rogers for the video.
thanks Sumit
Your welcome💗
Brilliant in every way!
Just finished the book. It's a great read.
Currently reading 'Slow Chocolate Autopsy'. Thanks for this!
1:23 Footnote.. Leon Kossoff and family had a flat on the corner of Bethnal Green Road and Seabright Street, which no longer exists, in the late 50s. I know . He invited Mum ( Auerbach’s “E.O.W”) and our family to it. So he maybe started from here , then to Dalston, then Willesden. Interesting.
Correction. A tiny bit of it - the top part going into Bethnal Green Road ( and where his flat was on first floor left) still does exist. That’s good.
Something about the use of Bebop style riffs feels appropriate for this video.
it's that Beat generation vibe perhaps given the poetic drift of Iain's prose style
Brilliant!
So great
Like a fire in the forest new shoots of life emerge look between the cracks it's a cycle, ask him it's a thing to look at we still have many beautiful and interesting things to see in this great country its a never ending journey as you and others are on.
Great stuff John!! Only watched this after finishing your new book. Incredible how areas like Dalston have changed in just a few years.
You might like to visit the Iklectik crew in Lambeth, who are having to 'relocate' after having their leases terminated for, guess what...? Their work resulted in a wonderful "temporary autonomous zone" (TAZ) in inner London. Obviously it was a space that Capitol couldn't tolerate any longer.
Thanks Trevor. Heard rumblings about Iklectik but didn't know what was going on - great venue
Looks like I'm going to be reading The Hard Shoulder next then.
Great channel John , do your books come in audio book format, Thanks
thanks Drummer - yes This Other London is available as an audiobook here amzn.to/3mhZ6NZ
I'm glad I moved to Brum, nice parks, history equal to that of London and far less expensive. You can still find, well most genuinely normal, not gentrified areas. I don't know why people stick it out in London unless you are born there, already have a house etc. I honestly don't know how creative people manage. The friends I know who have piled thousands into the hands of landlords.
Who performs the music / soundtrack for the videos? Great stuff
in the video description
Excellent John! I was wondering if this was ever going to be available. Good Man! Will enjoy this with a couple of bottles over the weekend! Any suggestions?
Has to be from a brewery in one of the Overground arches
What camera do you use to film, John?
Hi Andrew - this was shot on a Panasonic GH3 - very solid, reliable camera. I shoot my other TH-cam videos, when I'm on my own, on a GX80
Thanks John. Just finished watching this. Absolutely beautiful film
@@JohnRogersWalks did you use a steadicam also?
@@andrewjfinch no just a monopod and sometimes a flash bracket as a side handle
thanks Andrew
While watching the film l learned of the death of an old friend it seemed to go with experience !
This is one of the saddest films I've ever seen. Filled with the truth of now.
What book is he (Iain) reading from at the beginning around 3.32?
London Overground - sorry that should have been on the screen
Incredibly thought provoking and atmospheric rumination on the destruction of our city as we know it.
What book is he reading from in this video?
London Overground - Iain Sinclair. Definitely worth a read.
Just finished reading Ghost Milk, the hardback copy is in mint condition with a Penguin Press Release stating ‘EMBARGOED - NO REVIEWS TO APPEAR BEFORE JULY 3RD’. I found it in a charity shop here in Devon for £2. In the book Chris Petit foretells the coming of ‘eco-fascism’ which has proven to be most prescient! Looking up the name Chris Petit on the internet lead me to TH-cam and this great film - thanks John Rogers.
'An accident awaits a supplicant'...'when an animal migrates, the return is part of its journey'...
that's a great sequence - the first shoot, highly memorable
Walking the latitude of the Elizaberth line is beckoning
I did suggest this to Iain when we were making this film - he said the Crossrail project was too destructive
Who helped Andrew with his trousers then?
All these hideous 'Box Park' chains springing up everywhere, dreadful monstrosity's. Another interesting vid though, I love London history
I'd always come on a walk, I have no credits to my name, but I'm in haha
Great upload John ... the music was bloody awful though.
Kotting as the Turin Shroud? Nice.
Terrific. Many many thanks. Loved that saxophone too. Can't see images of the Shard without remembering the Church of Our Lady in Bruges. I'm sure psycho geography thoroughly deserves the romanticism of Sinclair's curmudgeonly cognitive recency bias. Everything's gone down the shitter. Wonderful 📌. Why can't everything be better like it was instead of worse like it is ? Through the eighties I lived in Dalston. Then Seven Sisters. Same harbingery then by the same cohort of art curmudgeons. They were still lamenting the 60s of course.
Haunting....informative...but..just a little middle class looking down and not truly understanding..the life......May I write..."underneath the pavement slabs
Crossrail next
That's not St. Dunstan's in the East
What hell is it with the English being so fascinated with every minute mundane of London which is now just a gentrified playground. London has literally sold out to the Bourgeois and idle rich who keep workers out with obscene property prices.
Too simplistic point of view, did you even watch it?
If you watched the film you would realise that is acknowledged and criticised multiple times. What an idiotic comment.
The name of John Rogers brought me here, with the hope and expectation of seeing something about some places in London that I'm familiar with, and the cinematography was excellent. I was also reminded how much of London is a right shithole.
And I should have watched with the sound off: by doing so I would have avoided 83 minutes of pretentious pseudo-intellectual wankery.
All 73 miles of it if you've got the legs I think you would be surprised with the interest it would create.
I like Sinclair. I have walked the villages of London for most of my life. I have stories leaking out of me! And I have witnessed the turn, in our culture. I preferred this film when I simply listened - the camera work being nauseatingly unbearable to watch. Shame - great otherwise. Oh and the sound is pretty painful too. Was it done on an iPhone 4?
He might be thinking of HS2
Too much noise for me. Disappointing, because I love Sinclair's 2017 'The Last London', and the earlier The Cardinal and the Corpse. I'd love to see the film without the music, if there's a way of doing that.
not really I'm afraid Sebastian - that would require a complete new sound mix and re-upload to TH-cam
The carriages used to be red
the character development was way better in the book...
true
The Vivian Westwood clone is hopeless.
It is a real benefaction to have this available in full on TH-cam - I haven't read Overground but I did enjoy Orbital - a mentally scarifying read. I think Iain has lost his touch. however - he keeps reading out excerpts from his book to himself, a touch of grandiose narcissism IMO .... and his last book 'The Last London' (which cost me £20) was so esoteric and incestuous I felt designed to make the reader feel excluded from a private party, and I threw away in disgust
I usually give a video 2 minutes to hook me in. This bored the hell out of me. I was out after that.
too much music
too much music. London is such a bloody miserable place.
Two sad old men , reinforcing Kilburn stereotypes , with tarnished memories of Kilburn pubs. Polish gastro - the Black Lion my ar....
The black lion is a gem and during the era referred to , was a good live music venue. Biddys now gone true , a betting shop . Always do with another betting and chicken shop on the KHR. Biddys wasn't hostile at all except perhaps to pretentious middle-class hikers like these two.
Poetic crap that harps back to a London that never really existed and little insight how Londoners experience their own environments and localities. Seem to have a thing about cemeteries - the London of the long dead