How to Write Drumline Music
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- A behind the scenes look at how I write those mouth-watering beats :)
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Literally the day that our percussion director told me and my friend to make a cadence for upcoming parades 🙏
Ha isn’t that peachy
* FINALE GRACE NOTE FIX
1. Set human play back to None
2. Set grace note EDU to 30
3. Flam away 🥁🔥
"So logic says, just highlight it, drag it to beat 3 and... AHHHH WHAT IS THAT??... alright yeah go ahead and sight read that"
**has a seizure trying to sight read that monstrosity**
I died when that happened
I always get this confused when that happens so I usually ctrl Z it
"Pretty cool stuff, I know" 😂 cracked me up because I was like JESUS this guy can write. Good sh!t man
Thank you for the tips! I am currently writing an indoor show for our drumline to use next season, and I have been stuck with how to transcribe and write the parts for the show. It’s post apocalyptic, based off of a song that I really love. So this has helped me a lot to speed up the transcription process.
Those battles with the tuplet tool on finale are soooo real lol
Try MuseScore and use the drumline extension. I use it to write my music and tbh it’s not bad
It also sounds a lot better, with a bunch of different options for articulation and play style
Musescore doesn't know how to do flams
I believe you’re talking about the old musescore. The new musescore does flams perfectly fine. The playback is decent and you don’t have to place a tie like you had to in the old version. And I’m also talking about musescore drumline which specialises in the flams and adds a variety to music intended for drumline.
@@Prof.CheeseDog *old musescore. New one is better at it
@@benhernandez3853 ohhhhh I see. I must have moved on from musescore before the newest version, then
I use Sonar (cakewalk) for sequencing VDL, and I can set resolution for grace notes to whatever I want, usually about 8 “ticks” on a 120 ticks per quarter resolution. And that velocity tool in grid (piano roll) view is fantastic! But I also use Finale to engrave and print parts because it just looks nicer.
I really like using MuseScore to write stuff because it's both free and powerful
It sounds like you word-for-word regurgitated what you read off of their website.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who painstakingly input every singular note, articulation, and dynamic marking before playing every part to ensure its pedagogically sound. 😂❤❤❤❤
When I get out of highschool I kinda wanna get a group to play chickenz and demons just thought I’d let you know that you’re posts inspire me as a tenor player!!
5:29
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I hope you've gotten better at Finale. SO Many things are easier if you use Speedy Entry tool rather than simple note entry, especially when writing percussion parts. For example, the tuplet tool is unnecessary if you just use Speedy Entry. Press Option.and the tuplet value (ex. Option 3 for triplet, option 6 for sixtuplet, etc) and enter the note values that you want (from 1 to 8, 128th note to double whole note, 16th note is 3, quarter note is 5, whole note is 7). Anyway, just thought I'd share that with you. I'm a retired Marine Musician and the courses at the School of Music offer a lot of Finale training, but of course you know the D&B don't go to those courses.
Dude, your videos are informative and incredibly well edited as they are entertaining.
So glad I switched to Sibelius years ago rather than just dealing with finale, so many less bugs especially when trying to do things like tuplets and copy/paste. Also makes it easy to integrate vdl and manipulate flam sound and velocity right in the score as you write
And you get the velocity control... Sibelius is just easier to work with.
Lmao @ the editing after the corrupted footage
I need an irl chicks +Dems show. The whole thing. Not specifically from you, just in general.
So I don't use Finale, I use Sibelius. But it looks like you may be grabbing the wrong flams when you copy paste those triplet sections. So if you grab the wrong flam and try and paste it into that beat, the software converts that 64th note that the flam takes up to beat one and try and convert the rest of it to weird stuff to compensate.
How do you input the "duts" in musescore?
You need the drumline extension and it acts as a tone you select when you input notes
Great video EMC. From a music standpoint, when you are writing battery parts, what do you listen for to determine what works best musically when you're layering parts into an ensemble with winds or front ensemble?
@@EMCproductions Awesome man! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly and thank you for your service as always!
I start by trying to understand the fundamental Groove that I'm trying to right. Like what is the groove of the song, How does it go, what's the feel?
And then I try to convey that with the battery parts. I usually have quad or bass parts in my ear before I have snare parts.
When I first started writing battery music, I had a tendency of just making the snaring quad part play in unison. But there's a lot of room for exploration when you have them kind of playing back and forth sometimes, not necessarily by playing the same part, but playing rhythms and *accent patterns* that complement each other.
2:49 "Hahrrible" New Jersey accent spotted!
"Fixing tuplet problems in Finale":
Step 1: Buy Sibelius
Step 2: Delete Finale forever
Step 3: ... that's it...
Step 4: Delete Sibelius and get Dorico instead
@@lifeontheledgerlines8394 I've never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.
@@mjohns908 It's made by the same company as Cubase, I like the workflow and there are some annoying bugs with Sibelius that bugged (haha) me so I switched.
It’s interesting to see your process for arranging compared to my own. To be fair, I’ve only written for other groups, never a group of a dozen of myself lol
By the way, I’m in DC frequently to visit college pals. Lunch on me if you want to chat about drums sometime! @treyrmason on Instagram.
Velocity can be changed to whatever you want using the midi tool
I joined my school's marching band this year... I suggested a new cadence. They liked it. They really liked it. They want a new cadence from me every year. any tips?
Unless it's your goal I'd say make originals instead of making it off songs. Sometimes it can help getting a groove through a drumset if you don't have access to marching percussion. And overall I'd say go for things that are more groovy and catchy than complex and aw inspiring as my drumline especially the basses just kinda threw out the harder stuff as we already have to learn show music. But it's really up to you. It's all about experimentation. If you listen to other things you will usually end up copying it so I usually mess around with my own thoughts instead.
@@kole2993 Thanks for the advice . This year the cadence we have is a combination that I made of jig2 and our old one, and everyone really likes it. So for next year I'm going to try to make an original one and make sure it sounds really funky, and something u could dance to
@@Logan-hu5dl yeah that's a good idea
Usen speedy entry tool, permite hacer con el teclado del notebook desde las acciacaturas hasta las divisiones irregulares (tresillos, quintillos, docillos, etc). De lo contrario, van a estar escribiendo tan lento como en este video.
I’m so happy you made this video, so is virtual drumline just a program you put compatible sheet music from another program in and it will play the midi or is it’s own writing Program
Man you're so cold!!!!!
One of the instruments was “Glock”. Should I be concerned?
Michael Braverman lol
Glockenspiel... I’m sure you knew that.
@@justinrayna2921 nah fr
Instructions unclear, I brought my musically-gifted pistol instead.
What the best way to write bass splits without it coming off as just random drums hitting?
You don’t
Think of the bass line like a bass guitar playin MUSIC... then divi it up accordingly!
Think of melodies that match the (somewhat) music, and/or match the patterns and accents the snares or tenors have.
Think of it as a run. Go up and down the staff.
Great stuff, man!
Dang, do you MANUALLY place each note into cubase? I always figured you did Finale notation first, export MIDI, import MIDI into Cubase, etc etc. Also, have you sent any of this to B Mike? Wonder what he'd think of it lol. Would be cool to see you stream this kinda stuff too.
Lol. I thought he was saying "Q-Bass"
Thx for the help man I was wondering how to it rally helped me learn thx
Thank you for this. I tried to before but I absolutely suck. I’m gonna watch this vid later
Eric I genuinely do LOVE your videos and you are such a fantabulous drummer/human, but I literally want to pay you to get a higher quality camera to shoot with (along with some lighting tools haha). You should start a Kickstarter or somethin' o_o
@@EMCproductions I would be your first supporter, much love man
5:32
Plot twist : *ITS ALL TIED*
It looks like it is lol
Amazing editing
is that a blue devils snare i see?
Yes that is a system blue snare
When I write drumline stuff in Finale, I turn off human playback, and go to document options to set grace note EDU to 32. That might help, but I'm not sure how it would mix with VDL.
I am notorious for not checking my parts comfort level before handing them out.
"What do you mean you don't know what you were trying to write for that measure?"
"Listen, I wrote this at 2am"
I have a question, where do you get your electronic/digital drums from?
Snare, base, tanners, and symbol.
Love your channel
hey emc I was wondering if you could cover the national youth orchestra excerpts in a video some time
This guy is the Stevie T of drums. But better
5:30 lmao
5:29 i wanna hear what this sounds like
New camera? Looks and sounds great
Oh ok lol
Ok so can I make a drum line feature without using music notes. If so how do u do that?
Can we get 20:59 on a shirt? Also I'm a Sibelius man
Oh yes please
I was having the conversation with a friend about percussion in Finale, and I said I hated it, and he said he liked it.
21:52
So you can sleep well tonight
When it’s corrupted it looks like he’s an animation TH-camr lol
What brand snare/tenors do you use? The snare looks like a system blue phatboy.
This helped me sooooooooo much
@emcproductions
I remember in school learning audacity. But cannot remember the program we used on how to take a track and isolate all the tracks individually used in a song therfore taking the vocals out and attaining the backing track. How did you do this.
virtual drumline, for when you have no friends
YES!
can you do this for show music
Include the flam on beat one when you copy/paste.
uhh i wrote a tenor part for a cadence that i'm writing and my fellow percussionists say its impossible. I would like to share it with you to see if it's truly impossible lmao
Siddharth Nanjangud it just means they’re a bunch of pussies
Siddharth Nanjangud no hahah but fr tho a good a way to know if it’s possible or not is to play it urself clean at the written tempo. If you can do it then they can too
Siddharth Nanjangud Can i get the sheets bro?
God tier
Can you do all the random licks
Good morning
Can anyone help me recall an old indoor show I'm interested in watching again? I cannot remember the group but i believe the show was called "dances of the new world"? I recall the performers wearing nude colored skin tight suits with green sequin 'loin cloth' style things on top. I believe at one point (possibly the beginning) they had a visual part where they used spears? and they may have even played with them. Would probably have occurred between 2004-2008. Thanks!
@@EMCproductions dang close but no cigar. this one was more of an Aztec feel. The nude color "green man" type body suits they had were super striking. Def first thought they were actually naked underneath their sequin loin cloth things.
@@EMCproductions That's gotta be it. Can't find a video but checked their wiki and that's the name of the show. Came in 2nd with a 96.10 that year. Thanks!
@@EMCproductions yep i think its lost for now.... you did pull out the tenor feature in one of your vids though:
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That's a lot of extra work man... lol
Recrescendo 😂😂
how do i get this Midi sounds?
Can you use virtual drumline for musescore?
how u write the sticking
where can I get Cubase?
Consider Steinberg Dorico?
I like turtles.
And hi hats made from two gongs.
Yeah finale sucks. If you want a program that makes the whole process quick and enjoyable while still being the most powerful tool for composition, try Dorico. You're already using Cubase anyway.
And since you already have finale you can get a competitive crossgrade.
You need more followers
Anyone know how to write crossovers in musescore?
I personally change the note-head to half not form.
Sibelius is where it's at
"The cheese melts in the microwave, the music melts in Sibelius."
- Tantacrul
Is Musescore good, it's what i use
I use flat.io but the website is pretty scuffed.
I used to use flat, just switch to MuseScore, your life will be so much better
Sebastian Hall Arrangements and Compositions lmao. I have musescore but it's on a mac and more confusing than normal.
Have you tried MuseScore 3?
HP the gong, boost it at 2k, and then compress it. Thank me later.
it's time to move to Sibelius
21:51
Hood morning
You should make the switch to Sibelius;)
Sibelius is really cluttered. Go Dorico instead
@@varixalint "The cheese melts in the microwave, the music melts in Sibelius."
- Tantacrul in his review of Sibelius
Sibelius bro especially if you know how to use the torrents lol
Sibelius is way overpriced for the quality you get
3 videos. One demonitizatuon symbol
what site did you order your yamaha drum from?
@@EMCproductions Do a tutorial on how to tactically "borrow" school equipment.
I love your videos, but I’m kind of jealous that you know so much. Lol. As a percussionist, most don’t know anything about the circle of fifths or music theory. I at least have a very basic knowledge.
Yo
Hi
First Comment!
15:09 Oh my gosh! He actually hits rims?! I honestly thought he was quad god or something lol
What's your opinion on using noteflight
3 years later, my advice is don’t
Flat.io is great
I like dogz
Bruh
Finale, Sibelius, it all sucks. Neither one does a good enough job for drumline compositions IMHO
Why is Finale so bad at copy pasta:
He also forgot how sixteenth note diddles sound like buzzes 🤮
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