I heard diffently. The Paris v2 and v3 are very similar. The baseplated of different angles plates now match on the v3. The pivot cup urethane is better on the v3. And the v3 truck is slightly stronger but weighs less. Overall design, bushing seat, and most other structural things are similar. However, bear 852 and bear gen 6 have a HUGE difference between them. Gen 6 id a much better upgrade all around. Caliber 2 has been greatly mproved in caliber 3
I have a boosted V2 dual+, two longboards, and two park decks. I have basically binged all of your vids over the last week or two and I swear you're gonna cost me dude. I now want... No.. NEED a loaded deck in my life (that isn't on an electric setup lol). Until the boosted, which I got used back in the spring, I hadn't ridden a loaded deck. I knew it was something special immediately, that flex is so incredible. Stumbled across your channel and between this channel and riding my boosted board I'm dangerously close to pulling the trigger on an Icarus once they get back in stock! Anywho man amazing videos seriously keep it up! Edit to add: I have caliber II trucks on both of the setups I mentioned. You can flip the hanger on those too to swap between 50 degree (more for carving/cruising) and 44 degree (more for downhill/stability). I live in a very hilly area, there's a hill near my house where according to my phone for GPS I hit 35 to 38 mph, and have got 41 even on a run where I tucked and tried to really fly. At the 44 degree setup those trucks are stable as heck even at those speeds.
Well I’m glad you like the videos! And Loaded boards are seriously awesome! Plus they don’t lose a whole lot of value over time which is great. Didn’t know about the calibers being reversible but that’s great to know! Keep enjoying your boards while it’s still summer! :D
I’m interested in building a super stable cruiser. I’d be interested to know if 72mm wheels could be fitted to a cruiser board in the conventional fashion beneath the board. Obviously wheel bite is the issue. High risers or stiff bushings or super wide trucks? As an older rider I just want to cruise safely and that’s my objective with these questions 🤔
Ogden Sikel it uses relatively low (54mm) polar bear trucks, so it must use very hard bushings or some other techniques because looking at the specs it should be wheel bite city.
Civan LFC what is the shape of your longboard? (Drop through, pintail, cruiser-esque, etc) if it’s like my boards in this video, they’ll fit. Sabre trucks are very good and very expensive, so they should be good on most boards.
Cool vid... Question you gave the weights for the V2 and V3. You mentioned the Bears are lighter, would be curious to hear the numbers, did you weigh them? Also just wanted to drop in that the V3s come in a gloss and matte black. Nice job, keep the vids coming.
Thanks! Yeah my bad, I should’ve weighed the bears in the video...they are a little over a pound for both, so around 460ish grams, whereas the Paris are about double that, coming in at around 920grams, or 2.08ish pounds. You can definitely feel the difference while carrying the boards around!
I got both trucks. Gen 6 Bears & Paris V3. Had to tighten down the Bears a bit more but can’t really tell the difference. But did notice the one with Paris does seem to weigh more.
Update: A Paris V3 180mm truck weights 480 grams per... Bear Gen 6 180mm weights 452 per. Paris weights 56 grams more total for two trucks, or 1.975 ounces. Ooooof
@@OgdenSikel On what scale do bears weigh 230g per truck? That'd be lighter than the lightest on the market. How do they compare for you in terms of carving feel?
Thank you!! I was just considering between Paris V2 and Bear v5. Cannot say I got closer to my final decision, but I definitely needed this. Very insightful video, thank you!
@@OgdenSikel ok i know this is really late, but i got a new board and its different, idk if it will fit, its not a drop through, but it is a drop down. would those fit??
If you happen to run across this video…Bear is now at gen 6. They are a total redesign from gen 5.
Paris as well did a huge redesign for the v3
I heard diffently.
The Paris v2 and v3 are very similar. The baseplated of different angles plates now match on the v3. The pivot cup urethane is better on the v3. And the v3 truck is slightly stronger but weighs less.
Overall design, bushing seat, and most other structural things are similar.
However, bear 852 and bear gen 6 have a HUGE difference between them. Gen 6 id a much better upgrade all around.
Caliber 2 has been greatly mproved in caliber 3
Also, standard kingpin trucks hide the kingpin under the axle for grinds whereas most reverse trucks stick farther out from the axles
I have a boosted V2 dual+, two longboards, and two park decks. I have basically binged all of your vids over the last week or two and I swear you're gonna cost me dude. I now want... No.. NEED a loaded deck in my life (that isn't on an electric setup lol). Until the boosted, which I got used back in the spring, I hadn't ridden a loaded deck. I knew it was something special immediately, that flex is so incredible. Stumbled across your channel and between this channel and riding my boosted board I'm dangerously close to pulling the trigger on an Icarus once they get back in stock! Anywho man amazing videos seriously keep it up!
Edit to add: I have caliber II trucks on both of the setups I mentioned. You can flip the hanger on those too to swap between 50 degree (more for carving/cruising) and 44 degree (more for downhill/stability). I live in a very hilly area, there's a hill near my house where according to my phone for GPS I hit 35 to 38 mph, and have got 41 even on a run where I tucked and tried to really fly. At the 44 degree setup those trucks are stable as heck even at those speeds.
Well I’m glad you like the videos! And Loaded boards are seriously awesome! Plus they don’t lose a whole lot of value over time which is great. Didn’t know about the calibers being reversible but that’s great to know! Keep enjoying your boards while it’s still summer! :D
Love ur vids dude keep it up.
Thanks :)
Paris trucks are the most stable I've ever ridden. Top speed no prob
Ofc bear trucks kick ass. Bear is owned by landyachtz, and you know landyachtz always packs heat
Paris trucks are also flippable for rake positive and negative
Can't you flip the hanger on the paris too?
you might be able to, but I don't think it was designed to be flipped. may still work tho, Ill have to test it out
@@OgdenSikel It can be hard to find this kinda info xD Let us know how it goes ;)
I emailed Paris and they replied saying you can ;)
Yes +/- rake
He lowkey reminds me of Tom Holland
Great review. How about independent and gullwing sidewinders?
Will make a note of this to try in the coming months!
I’m interested in building a super stable cruiser. I’d be interested to know if 72mm wheels could be fitted to a cruiser board in the conventional fashion beneath the board. Obviously wheel bite is the issue. High risers or stiff bushings or super wide trucks? As an older rider I just want to cruise safely and that’s my objective with these questions 🤔
Take a look at the landyachtz dinghy turbo king for inspiration. That cruiser has 72mm wheels and gets virtually zero wheelbite.
Ogden Sikel will do 👍
Ogden Sikel it uses relatively low (54mm) polar bear trucks, so it must use very hard bushings or some other techniques because looking at the specs it should be wheel bite city.
Thanks man 👍🏽 (UK)
Those bearings at 8:45.
Dear god o.O
If you think that’s bad you haven’t seen anything 😂
Are the standard 180mm Sabre trucks good for a 37.5” longboard, width 9.75”
Civan LFC what is the shape of your longboard? (Drop through, pintail, cruiser-esque, etc) if it’s like my boards in this video, they’ll fit. Sabre trucks are very good and very expensive, so they should be good on most boards.
Ogden Sikel it’s a drop through I think, it’s called Lush Freebyrd lo-pro elite
Yeah those trucks will work then!
Ogden Sikel thank you homie 👊🏼❤️
Good review. Interesting and informative. What about independent and gullwing sidewinders?
Cool vid... Question you gave the weights for the V2 and V3. You mentioned the Bears are lighter, would be curious to hear the numbers, did you weigh them? Also just wanted to drop in that the V3s come in a gloss and matte black. Nice job, keep the vids coming.
Thanks! Yeah my bad, I should’ve weighed the bears in the video...they are a little over a pound for both, so around 460ish grams, whereas the Paris are about double that, coming in at around 920grams, or 2.08ish pounds. You can definitely feel the difference while carrying the boards around!
I got both trucks. Gen 6 Bears & Paris V3. Had to tighten down the Bears a bit more but can’t really tell the difference. But did notice the one with Paris does seem to weigh more.
Update: A Paris V3 180mm truck weights 480 grams per... Bear Gen 6 180mm weights 452 per. Paris weights 56 grams more total for two trucks, or 1.975 ounces. Ooooof
@@OgdenSikel On what scale do bears weigh 230g per truck? That'd be lighter than the lightest on the market.
How do they compare for you in terms of carving feel?
@@definingslawek4731 452g is per truck.
Thank you!! I was just considering between Paris V2 and Bear v5. Cannot say I got closer to my final decision, but I definitely needed this. Very insightful video, thank you!
Hello it’s max from cross country
What’s up! Hope y’all are sticking to your training haha!
can i have the link to the beartrucks?
Hey, so I have the gen 5 bear trucks, which are an old model, but here is the link to the gen 6!!
landyachtz.com/product/gen-6-bear-trucks-180mm-50/
@@OgdenSikel ok i know this is really late, but i got a new board and its different, idk if it will fit, its not a drop through, but it is a drop down. would those fit??
You had me til......"wear a mask?" 😆
This video was uploaded early in the pandemic before vaccines were out
@@OgdenSikel cool.
Bbc
Wear masks covidiots🎉😂