Vijay Prashad speaks on China and Taiwan
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- Vijay Prashad, historian, journalist, and commentator, spoke about the US’ new Cold War with China. He touched on the impact of colonialism on China, the US campaign to isolate China, Xinjiang, Taiwan and the US-Australian submarine deal. He was interviewed by Merriam Ansara. In this clip he speaks about Taiwan.
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I have to say this: Vijay is extremely smart, rational, objective, analytical. I'm highly impressed.
🤩🤩🤩Speaking of the truth. A very honest and intelligent gentleman 💯💯💯
There is no doubt that when the KMT retreated to Taiwan island and set up its administration there to rule the island, it recognized Taiwan firmly as Chinese territory. The fact that it raided the National museum and took huge quantities of CHINESE relics to set up a new national museum in Taipei showed that it wanted to remain Chinese and become a centre of Chinese civilization. The independence movement is a new departure which has been fostered by America and pro-Japanese Tsai.
maybe japanese Tsai...who can know for sure ? just like litenghui...
Vijay is right
There is only one China.. From the time of ancestors Koxingka was Chinese.. So can rule *formosa"
Doesn't matter anyone's opinion except Xi's. I realize you get paid in yuan, but let's not justify Chinese thinking, others opinion does not matter regardless of difference. Was not surprised to hear about your support and reasoning of China in regards to Taiwan- China relations.
What do you know about China-Taiwan history. Why don't you get ypur azz up and do some serious research , instead of just reading western mainstream media headlines , and suddenly you are knowledgeable about the China-Taiwan relationship.
A quick recap. After Japan defeat in WW2, it returned the island of Taiwan to the country of China, the original owner. Who comprises the country of China? Mainlland China and its 500 million people at that time. Understand so far?
So China was in the midst of a civil war, like the civil war in the US.
Mao faction defeated Chiang Kai Shek faction. So Chiang kai Shek fled to the island defeated. And on the way, looted gold, food, weapons reserves from Mainland China. Practically a thieve. Since Mao didn't have a navy, the country half destroyed from Japan invasion, civil war, poverty, bad crops, ... He didn't waste the time to chase a loser.
A loser of a civil war normally recognizes the winner, like in the uS. The North defeated the South. So the North ruled the country. But the Cowards from the KMT invaded Taiwan and said they were the real China. A loser who fled say they are the real China. WTF ! is that. Just Cowards. And the US exploits that. Of course. The US is good at exploiting opportunities.
The rest, do your own research, lazy bum.
I would say Vijay made some mistakes here on Taiwan. He is correct about the history on how Taiwan came to be its own thing. However, the DPP is actually to the left of the KMT on social issues (such as LGBT rights) because of their younger support base, though he is correct that they are to the right of the KMT when it comes to economic issues. The young Taiwanese overwhelmingly desire formal independence from China, while the older Taiwanese are quite split on this issue. I have met numerous Taiwanese myself, and for them, they said that even if independence causes Taiwan's economy to collapse or triggers a war, they still want independence because the right to call themselves the "Republic of Taiwan" is about Taiwan's dignity. And in fact, if you meet a young Taiwanese, the vast majority of them consider it offensive to be called "Chinese". Interestingly, the young Taiwanese are also the least in favour of mandatory conscription, and many of them have said that they are confident that America and Japan will defend them from a Chinese invasion if Taiwan formally declares independence.
TAIWAN is and will always be a part of CHINA 😍❤💯💪
This is where the delusion came from no? You want to become independent, yet doesn't want to work for it. If Taiwan's economy is destroyed, what value does Taiwan have to Japan and the US?
@@limitlesssky3050 I'm not taking a stand on whether Taiwan should be independent or not. I'm just stating the facts as to what the young Taiwanese feel.
I think you are generalizing far too much, as if 'the young Taiwanese" have a single opinion. If there was war, Taiwan would suffer massively.
@@Lost_Johnny But it's true that the young Taiwanese overwhelmingly support the DPP and want Taiwan independence. Of course if you search all of Taiwan, you'll eventually find one young Taiwanese who is pro-China. Nothing is ever 100%, and such people certainly exist. But from what I understand, over 90% of the young Taiwanese want independence.
Vijay is wrong about Taiwan and the DPP. They are a Taiwanese nationalist party and to the left of the KMT and US Democrats. But they are also pragmatic, and while they, and most Taiwanese, want independence, they are fine with the status quo and don't want to ruffle any feathers. That was until the US started sabre rattling and China has been retaliating, which has forced the Taiwanese further and further into the belligerent arms of the Americans, for fear of a Chinese invasion
Tell me, what is the difference between the so-called Taiwanese and a Chinese from the mainland?
@@pahatpahat9566 they live in Taiwan, not mainland China, have their own country, and the vast majority like it that way and don't want to be part of China. They also have their own dialects and people that are indigenous to Taiwan as well as their own cuisine and culture
@@nucks2233 what do you mean by their own dialects? Do you know they speak Minnan or Amoy dialect which is a Mainland China dialect better known as Fujianhua? And do you know where the indigenous Taiwanese originated from? And their number don't even come close to half a million!
@@sunmanyi3265 Minnanhua is a dialect of Fujianhua, and not the same thing, so you might wanna do some homework before you spout off like you know something. Fujianhua has a few other dialects, like Minbei for example. And the Taiwanese dialect of Minnanhua, while very similar, also has its own local variations. I'm pointing out facts. You seem offended by facts if they don't conform to your ideology.
Also, whether or not they have their own languages or dialects (which they do, and Taiwanese Mandarin is also it's own little dialect in itself) is irrelevant to the fact that they are their own independent country. The democratic will of the people is what matters, and any real socialist worth his salt supports the self-determination of all nations, as all the original socialists and Marxists did.
And what does it matter how many indigenous Taiwanese there are? They don't matter? That sounds pretty racist.
@@nucks2233 are you nuts? Fujianhua means dialects spoken from the Province of Fujian. Where do you think the wanwan 弯弯 🌈 dialects originate from? You must be wanwan millennial thinking you know better about wanwan 弯弯 dialects?
Prof Prashad is a beautiful human being. I respect and admire him greatly for his intellectual sharpness and his profound sense of righteousness and fairness.
Before 1971， Taiwan government holds the perminent member seat of the UN secuity councel (only US, USSR, UK and France hold the other 4 seats) for the whole China. When the government of Taiwan was defeated in a civil war and flet from Taiwan in 1949, it took all the money and gold in the national reserve, which included the tax money raised to 1971 in advance, to Taiwan,. The money are later used to build Taiwan. They also took the national treasures in the Forbidden Palace (which is the Royal Palace of China) that are collected for thousands of years. These are exhibited in Taiwan Forbidden Palace (yes the same name) now. The constitution of Taiwan still claims that the Taiwan government is the government of the whole China, not only Taiwan. Now if you still call Taiwan an independent country, you are either badly informed, or with some really evil purposes to distort the facts and history.
What are you trying to say here ? That Taiwan is not a country or something ?
Nonsense from a little pinkie.
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Vijay is very impressive in term of his understanding of China. Salute
Vijay has impressive knowing about Chinese matters.
Taiwan
You have an obligation to know who you are
Study history
I am chinese from Malaysia
Western educated in canAda for 10 years
Now back in malaysia I am chinese
The malaysian government is racialist
I look toward the chinese
I finally knew my roots
The young in hk and Taiwan think different
Wait till they finally go to the west
The usa is not the same
They fool the young
They will find out how the West is racist to them, mocking them and beating up their elders and young for being "chinese'
Taiwanese know their own history. They aren't stupid. They don't look to China or the West. They know how to play all sides against each other to get what they want. They are very smart
@@nucks2233 Taiwanese are Chinese, get your narrative right. Ignorance pushes these pro-war agendas
When the Kuomintang ran to Taiwan, their lawmakers (over 50 of them) also ran to Taiwan, and were installed in the Taiwan legislature as representatives of their constituencies in the mainland! So who says Taiwan is not part of China?
Vijay is great, but not 100% precise about Taiwan. Taiwan had been part of the Qing Dynasty (and Ming Dynasty before it), until it was ceded to Japan in the Treaty of Shimonoseki in 1895. At the end of WWII, the Cairo Declaration and Potsdam Proclamation both stipulated that Taiwan should be returned to China (together with all other lands occupied by Japan, such as the northeast provinces), and it was the KMT (Chinese Nationalist Party) on behalf of the Republic of China (ROC) that executed the handover in 1945. Since then Taiwan has been part of ROC.
Then KMT lost the civil war against CPC in 1949, fleed to Taiwan taking the ROC regime with it, and CPC founded PRC in mainland. Until now, the constitution of ROC still reads that the whole China is under its dominion, not just Taiwan; and the same for the constitution of PRC. All these can be validated by documents and literature.
If that is the case that ROC constitution said the whole China mainland belongs to ROC, then the pro-independence movement like Tsi Ing-wen is illegal in Taiwan. It it not?
@@ckong676 I think the party charter of Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) has a clause that promotes the concept of Taiwan independence via general referendum, but Tsai as the President of ROC has not officially announce the independence, bcoz it's the redline issue, what she does is to try all she could to detach Taiwan from mainland, culturally and politically (ironically, not economically, what a pussy).
I don’t understand. Where is he wrong?
when Japan surrender in WWII , Taiwan was returned to China, if you want to change the statue quo as a result of a war, then you need to be prepare for another war
I bet not many English speakers can understand the China & Taiwan relation as you explained, Vijay. Good try though. As a Taiwanese , I believe we will find a good solution in us with China.
Because HE 🤩🤩🤩Always Speaking of the truth. A very honest and intelligent gentleman 💯💯💯
KMT lost the Civil War . DPP is a separatist political organization. It's founders were mainly families who collaborated wuth the Japanese occupiers. The late Lee Teng Hui actually volunteered for the Japanese army.
The father of the current leader Tsai Ing Wen collaborated with Japanese occupiers repairing their war planes!
The main body of DPP are pro Japan, due to their mindset of being Japanese colonial subjects.
Of course. Taiwan was Japanese. How do you think they lived there ???
by that definition all Taiwanese who were there before the KMT mass migration in the late 40s and who didn't actively fight against Japanese colonialism in Taiwan were collaborators. You might want to read a dictionary
Go VJ!
thats right
In India anytime anyone makes a fair statement on China, he or she will immediately get trolled by emotional Indian nationalists and get called by different names 😅
Vijay,,,,WOW!!!
Another point of Perspective of China and Taiwan is US Govt funded the KMT faction in the Civil war for China. And Taiwan after end of WW2 is handed back to China. Taiwan was made a colony much like HK after the Japanese Imperial empire launched a war against China and did far worse to the Chinese and local indigenous people there Via Literal Cultural Genocide as all schools are converted into Japanese resulting kids NOT Japanese but Chinese wiped out of their cultural identity and like India serve in the Japanese imperial army against China in WW2.
US Govt interfered with Domestic Chinese Affairs in the civil war and after KMT loss and retreated to another part of China into Taiwan. This is rewritten history in US as KMT invaded Taiwan LOL. As if Taiwan still belongs to Japan. Taiwan is by legal document of Japanese surrender handed back to China. But scholars in US or intellectuals rename it as KMT invaded Taiwan. US after loss of KMT the regime they backed had a fit in US congress calling a Debate on Who Lost China. Errrr US owns China???
KMT after losing was never going to stand a chance to get back control of China but US intervened again in China's Civil war that prevented CPC from Uniting China. This is what the US One China Policy is all about. In which US Govt recognized that Taiwan is part of China because they do. Its Forced US Military intervention that prevented it from Happening.
So for the Chinese its not a Chinese View that Taiwan belongs to China but by Right is China's Territory as stipulated by Japanese Surrender Legally.
It's amazing to listen to Vijay,he is the embodiment of extreme knowledge in world history unlike ninety percent of the so called worlds politicians who are blatantly ignorant and utterly stupid.
The fact. Thanks for speaking the truth. Respect to one of the wisest scholars of this generation Mr Vijaya Prasad!
Excellent food for thought
He actually points out the real and correct situation. Not many people understand the complexity inside the CPC or the China/Taiwan situation.
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It's a really good question. Unfortunately our government and media perpetuate myopic thinking because it's easier to manipulate the population. Not just for propaganda but also for advertising. If you think about it, they are both one and the same. The institutions & the actions. Thanks for having Mr. Prashad on, he's brilliant and under appreciated.
Vijay is right. They deliberately call it the CCP, not the CPC.😅
Naive foreigner. This professor make that point then says "Chinese Communist Party" (CCP) later in video. "Vijay" and puppets like you think you understand China and are against western prejudice, yet are complacent like the CIA imperialist dogs you criticize. 1.4 billion people and the great party don't need your validation. Focus on making your trash america communist first and don't use China for your lazy narratives.
Good point, Honduras understands the difference. let's hope they start a trend.
Prashad pronounces KMT in accurate mandarin.
you can put Taiwan into China Easily but to put China into Taiwan will over size it. Why US try to complicate Chinese?
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Prashad is a bit off on this one. When China opened up for business 40 years ago the country has been poor for decades and extremely poor from the Big Leap Foward in the 50s. During the Cultural Revolution even high ranked party members’ kids were sent to work in the fields and missed schools. From Deng thru Jiang in the 80s and 90s a large number of government officials were undereducated, 99+% have never left the country, and didn’t know a word of English. That was the status of China given to Deng, little strength but confidence and believes. He could have more if he could. Foreign companies came and materialism kicked in, wives wanted home appliances, clothing and cosmetics, kids wanted Nike and Mcdonald’s, men wanted a Volkswagen and perhaps a new girl friend. That actually worked well for businessmen as now one could sell a mediocre machine for three times the price, all they needed to do extra was to drink 52 degree alcohol. Desires and social pressure pushed corruption into a norm. They had a term for it, “relationships”. From the locals point of view, corruption was a cause for the student protest in Beijing in 1989 though external forces took advantage of the situation and was the real cause of a protest out of control. The students were protesting over inflated food prices, merely. Beijing business can recall the exact time in 2004 when the Hu government took serious actions against corruption. Hu replaced Jiang in 2002, apparently the new government started making reform changes right away. It took two years to make plans and replace personnel. What actions? The newly reformed Disciplinary Committee literally stationed staff at the parking lots of popular restaurants, night clubs and tea houses to photograph any suspicious encounters. Hu’s Politburo was not only educated but several were Masters degrees and quite non smoking. What they could not do before now they could. The bar of achievements has been reset. And now the people around Xi are doctors of sorts heading big projects. Before the Housing Reform in 2000 there was no private home ownership in China except for the farmers. Just 15 years laters home prices are on par with the USA. Average homes in Beijing and Shanghai cost 1.5 million US, about that of Bay Area. In 20 years Beijing has turned one million bicycles into 5 million cars. In 2019 China had 159 million outbound visitors for business and pleasure. For a few years every returning flight from Japan was jam packed with rice cookers in the overhead storage, for some reasons they were high-fashion. It’s a miracle that not one has exploded. Japanese are now equipped with the latest gadgets for Chinese translation. And Taiwan, mmm….30 years ago when Chinese delegations visited Los Angeles, they were met with cold eyes by Taiwanese migrants who occupied most of China towns in the city, 400,000 of them. To be fair, they were entitled to think they were richer and higher class than mainland Chinese, plus they had even migrated to the USA so they got to be even higher. Since 10 years ago the big spenders who bought their real estate and feast on their restaurant menu have been mostly multi-millionaire mainland Chinese while the Taiwanese are mostly still confined to lives in their China towns. In 30 years most everything slowly deteriorated in Los Angeles. Homeless people skyrocketed so did shootings looting and armed robberies. China eradicate poverty and build space station and stuffs. China is already higher class than even the US by many measures. China is even higher class than Taiwan so Taiwanese are extremely lucky to get a promotion.
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OMG they didn't know a word of English? How many Americans know Cantonese, even now? Your history has terrible bias. You either live in an academic bubble or in America, probably both.
Well done said...
I think the most relevant issue here wasn't mentioned. In similar fashion, if you ask in Taiwan, do you want to be under CPC governance, the answer is very strong "no". CPC would never win any elections in Taiwan. The Hong Kong dismantling of "two systems, one country" made it just that much worse. CPC can never give any guarantees that Taiwanese people would accept.
They have no choice but to accept. Did the Hawaii people accepted USA to take over back then? Did Sikhin agree with India taking over? How about Ireland and Scotland and Catalonia?
@@lisa.e5776 Previous crimes are not excuse for future ones, no? Time of empires and imperialism should be over, not advocated to continue.
PRC has never had sovereignty over Taiwan, why should we argue to make the situation worse instead of arguing for imperialism to stop?
@ China can do the same towards Taiwan island but they don't do that. Please be fair in judgement and don't play the double standard games.
If they decide to go ahead, 50 years later, it was history according to your mindset.
By the way, do you think that they care or need others countries approvals to get back what is theirs? (according to the UN and China constitution laws)
@ CRIMES are crimes, no matter it is previous or present. It is not over until everything is set right back again eg: justices, apologies and compensation for the victims.
Chaos in Niger, Africa tell us that the future will hunt those who did crimes in the past. It will never rest until everything is made right/ justify.
China doesn't care about what people in Taiwan think or what a TH-cam like you think if it is there land then it is....the people in Taiwan can leave to USA where there is democracy....
The Western power of word is inherited from God who speaks and reality happens.
"Monolithic China"! Destroyed with just the opening chuckle 😃 The explanation that followed was just the icing.
Why is he always pro China
Because he's a tankie, i.e. a fake socialist
Because HE 🤩🤩🤩Always Speaking of the truth. A very honest and intelligent gentleman 💯💯💯
There you have it folks a real historian explaining the situation over there based on facts. I can't believe that he was even interviewed knowing that he's not going to mince his words in favor of the US. This is a man who would make for a great POTUS!