If they wanted Spencer to be the Father, they should’ve just made him the father. They should’ve never gave Trina a love interest if they didn’t truly want to explore the relationship. This whole storyline blows.
I totally agree with you. At this point I want Trina to run as far away from Spencer as possible. I'm getting over Sprina. Because face it, they aren't really a couple and I hope she doesn't sleep with him until they are if they are going to be.
@@teresajefferson3095 That's why Granddaddy Marshall gave him a talking to/ took his a** to church with the truth. I'm looking forward to the conversation this upcoming Tuesday between she and Spencer regarding the next level of their relationship.
SMH is this what they want to do with the Spencer character? If they cannot have Esme stand on her own 2 feet as a character then she is not needed. Spencer and Trina should be in their couple era now, building a legacy together but noooo they give us this shit. Moving on...
Okay-Have we forgotten that Ace is his BABY BROTHER and Esmè is his Ex Girlfriend? Which means SHE SLEPT WITH HIS FATHER!! So excuse him if he isn’t falling all over Esmè like everybody else! It’s not even like this happened YEARS AGO PEOPLE!! Her even asking for FORGIVENESS is out of line to me and kind of suspect- I’m not mad at Spencer at all- Now do I think they are DRAGGING this story line? YES!!! I’m tired of it- I need something to happen- and I want to KNOW what Heather Webber wrote in that letter that she conveniently never told Laura about…
COME ON NOW! That's what I'm saying. Girl been out of jail two days, and people want Spencer to play nice with her...I'm tired of everyone kissing her butt. Let's get this Esme/Baby mama storyline over with. Esme told Laura that her mother said don't trust her or Spencer, but I don't know if that was in the letter.
You said everything I was thinking! Also, Spenser says everything I’m thinking! Her memory is gone but her general personality is the same. She maybe nice to her baby but everyone else…not so much. If she didn’t have Spenser or Laura she’d be living in a homeless shelter. Writers fix and bring back Nikolas and make this HIS problem!
@@indiramosley3340 Right! And she says she’s not that person anymore- But how do you KNOW THAT if you don’t even remember who that person was! Yes someone can TELL YOU, but from her actions( like Spencer said) She isn’t far from Esmè the Original…
@@sammac3508 EXACTLY! What do they want Spencer to do? 🤣 Oh okay-Well if that’s the case- She seems to be listening to Heather doesn’t she. She’s not trusting them just like mommy told her not to.
@Lexi I'm telling ya! They should've just made Spencer the father because maybe then I could understand his fixation on this baby, but right now...Trina, sweetie 😒
Esme is doing such a good job right now I’m glad Spencer Is not taking care of the baby Because He saying his focus is on ace but his face expression saying I’m waiting for you to mess up Esme 0:39 Cc 1:27
I don’t know what it is with spencer prior to him finding out esme was pregnant he was busy with Trina he was jealous when she was with another man. Now he spends most his days chasing after esme and making sure she doesn’t take off with ace. If he doesn’t wake up fast him and Trina will never make it to actually being a couple how long can Trina hold on to hope with a situation like this.
Esme pulling the equivalency of asking for the manager by asking for Portia…at this point I’m assuming this redemption is a fake out bc she’s not doing anything to change. Just lots of denial and placing the blame on Ryan or “her old self”…Im genuinely curious to see if anyone is enjoying this storyline and why. Because it’s such a struggle for me.
@@NatRosen it’s dragging too 😩. I think they’ve had Spencer have the same conversation with Esme and Victor a dozen times. I can’t wait for sweeps. Looks like we’re gonna get some good stuff. But they can toss this baby stuff in the bin.
@Nfgc86 The best sweep story would be Nicholas returning and marrying Esme. That way, she can't testify against him for keeping her locked up in the North Tower. Nicholas will blackmail Ava to get back his castle and spoon island. Be cause this Esme baby Soencer line is ridiculous 🙄.
@@lucy2180 I’m all for Nik coming back and pulling some stuff to get custody. Tbh I’m just tired of Esme as a character. I’m also not a fan of her ultimately getting what she came there for, which was the Cassadine money and family. She’s already got the baby, she doesn’t need the name. She needs her comeuppance.
Spencer is being a lil too extra. He needs to stop. I know Esme is blah blah but u are the brother not the father. Chill already. Working with Victor is ur first mistake.
This whole storyline feels really sketchy. Spencer wanting to take a baby away from its mother without her consent and without genuine evidence that she is unfit or a danger to the baby reeks of mysogyny, paternalism, and frankly is unethical. As a mom of young kids I feel like the writers on this storyline are being super insensitive to the questionable ethics of portraying Spencer as the town hero/protagonist and Esme continuing to be the antagonist. I’ve watched GH for most of my adult life and ive suffered through many bad storylines (Dante cheating on Lulu, Sam and that weird vampire storyline, etc.) but this isn’t just bad writing it’s morally wrong to portray the antagonist as someone who should have their baby taken away from them without just cause. Mothers have rights, and babies need their parents not their siblings. Laura isn’t arguing any of this, she’s just trying to get on esme’s side to gain her trust so she can eventually separate them. Seriously?!
Memory loss isn’t always permanent and Esmè didn’t even WANT THAT BABY- The baby was her “ACE” in the hole to keep Her out of Jail! His entire NAME was a reminder that her son was a PAWN! So if she were to get her memory back she COULD be a danger- I wonder would everybody be this understanding if Heather Webber lost her memory and became “nice”- ESMÈ wouldn’t even give her the time of day-But she expects everyone else to? All Esmè is doing is waiting for everyone to put their guard down- so she can go in for the kill…
As a mom of young kids, I don’t consider that to be just cause for the forced removal of an infant from it’s only surviving parent. It’s super sketchy and I wonder if this would happen if the head writers were female. I would be surprised if a real world court of law would also deem that justifiable, for two reasons: 1/ it’s difficult to prove intent and 2/ intent while pregnant does not represent evidence of being an unfit caregiver once baby is born. I wonder how I can give feedback to the writers. I also wonder if they would care.
It’s not anymore sketchy than having her drug a jock girl the. Try to pin a crime in her knowing how racist the criminal justice sysyem. So then they make mommy so that she doesn’t pay for her crimes. As a mom, I have no issues for her getting comeuppance. Lbr that child is better off with Laura and Kevin. But they want the white girl to get away with her crimes while the black girl was raked over the coals.
Let's put things in perspective Esme is evil mother or not she needs to pay for her crimes yes CRIMES in case you forgot she drugged someone not once but twice, attempted murder on that bartender, recorded and distributed revenge porn. She set Ava's car on fire and taunted her bringing up memories of her dead daughter. She decided Spencer from the beginning he was just a pawn in her game, slept with her boyfriend's father. She did all of this willingly. She needs to go to jail do her time then she can rejoin society and become that loving parent that she wants to be. This storyline is weak.
you thinking they’re portraying Spencer as the protagonist and not absolutely bending over backwards to make you feel sorry for Esme after everything she’s done is so far off, but okay. Having a child doesn’t erase your past. Being a sex offender and attempted murderer are valid reasons for some to question your ability to parent. But don’t worry, they’re not actually taking her baby away and that won’t be the outcome of the story. It’s quite literally just a storyline meant to make you sympathize with Esme and look at you, it’s working :)
I read that we were going to get a little bit of a love triangle…of sorts with Spencer Trina and Esme. While he appreciates all of the changes she has made his heart belongs to Trina. He and Trina WILL be together. I also heard that they putting Esme with Cam. Cam will be back on the show. Hang on y’all. Let’s see how this plays out.
@@tameracoates398 I knew it wasn't just me tuning in on that voice! I'm betting it was either sinuses or allergies because it's only this episode. (Not like last time when that cold was noticeable from meeting Cameron at Kelly's to Britt's birthday party 🥳🎉)
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That baby is so cute. His facial expressions is priceless.
Spencer needa let Esme be a single mother. He is not the baby’s father 😒.
If they wanted Spencer to be the Father, they should’ve just made him the father. They should’ve never gave Trina a love interest if they didn’t truly want to explore the relationship. This whole storyline blows.
I totally agree with you. At this point I want Trina to run as far away from Spencer as possible. I'm getting over Sprina. Because face it, they aren't really a couple and I hope she doesn't sleep with him until they are if they are going to be.
@@teresajefferson3095 That's why Granddaddy Marshall gave him a talking to/ took his a** to church with the truth. I'm looking forward to the conversation this upcoming Tuesday between she and Spencer regarding the next level of their relationship.
SMH is this what they want to do with the Spencer character? If they cannot have Esme stand on her own 2 feet as a character then she is not needed. Spencer and Trina should be in their couple era now, building a legacy together but noooo they give us this shit. Moving on...
These Spencer, Esme & baby scenes were like nails on a chalkboard. I’m starting to fast forward his scenes with the baby. Excruciating.
Okay-Have we forgotten that Ace is his BABY BROTHER and Esmè is his Ex Girlfriend? Which means SHE SLEPT WITH HIS FATHER!! So excuse him if he isn’t falling all over Esmè like everybody else! It’s not even like this happened YEARS AGO PEOPLE!! Her even asking for FORGIVENESS is out of line to me and kind of suspect-
I’m not mad at Spencer at all- Now do I think they are DRAGGING this story line? YES!!! I’m tired of it- I need something to happen- and I want to KNOW what Heather Webber wrote in that letter that she conveniently never told Laura about…
COME ON NOW! That's what I'm saying. Girl been out of jail two days, and people want Spencer to play nice with her...I'm tired of everyone kissing her butt. Let's get this Esme/Baby mama storyline over with. Esme told Laura that her mother said don't trust her or Spencer, but I don't know if that was in the letter.
Agreed and I don’t blame him. Keep the guards up. She is evil period. Many are fooled cause many are fools.
You said everything I was thinking! Also, Spenser says everything I’m thinking! Her memory is gone but her general personality is the same. She maybe nice to her baby but everyone else…not so much. If she didn’t have Spenser or Laura she’d be living in a homeless shelter. Writers fix and bring back Nikolas and make this HIS problem!
@@indiramosley3340 Right! And she says she’s not that person anymore- But how do you KNOW THAT if you don’t even remember who that person was! Yes someone can TELL YOU, but from her actions( like Spencer said) She isn’t far from Esmè the Original…
@@sammac3508 EXACTLY! What do they want Spencer to do? 🤣 Oh okay-Well if that’s the case- She seems to be listening to Heather doesn’t she. She’s not trusting them just like mommy told her not to.
Can we please just get to the end of the road already? This storyline ain't doing anyone any favors.
No one AT ALL!! It’s painful 😓
@Lexi I'm telling ya! They should've just made Spencer the father because maybe then I could understand his fixation on this baby, but right now...Trina, sweetie 😒
The writers need to bring Nicholas back. It's his responsibility, not Spencer's, to deal with Esme and baby Ace.
Esme is doing such a good job right now I’m glad Spencer Is not taking care of the baby Because He saying his focus is on ace but his face expression saying I’m waiting for you to mess up Esme 0:39 Cc 1:27
Goes to show the man is a fool.
I don’t know what it is with spencer prior to him finding out esme was pregnant he was busy with Trina he was jealous when she was with another man. Now he spends most his days chasing after esme and making sure she doesn’t take off with ace. If he doesn’t wake up fast him and Trina will never make it to actually being a couple how long can Trina hold on to hope with a situation like this.
Spencer is getting on my nerves
Esme pulling the equivalency of asking for the manager by asking for Portia…at this point I’m assuming this redemption is a fake out bc she’s not doing anything to change. Just lots of denial and placing the blame on Ryan or “her old self”…Im genuinely curious to see if anyone is enjoying this storyline and why. Because it’s such a struggle for me.
I Definitely not enjoying it😢
@@NatRosen it’s dragging too 😩. I think they’ve had Spencer have the same conversation with Esme and Victor a dozen times. I can’t wait for sweeps. Looks like we’re gonna get some good stuff. But they can toss this baby stuff in the bin.
@Nfgc86 The best sweep story would be Nicholas returning and marrying Esme. That way, she can't testify against him for keeping her locked up in the North Tower. Nicholas will blackmail Ava to get back his castle and spoon island. Be cause this Esme baby Soencer line is ridiculous 🙄.
@@lucy2180 I’m all for Nik coming back and pulling some stuff to get custody. Tbh I’m just tired of Esme as a character. I’m also not a fan of her ultimately getting what she came there for, which was the Cassadine money and family. She’s already got the baby, she doesn’t need the name. She needs her comeuppance.
@@lucy2180 Nikolas is going to get an amnesia story too. It’s probably going take awhile before he starts blackmailing Ava. The writers suck!
Happy little family?? Lol. He’s looking like the daddy next to her and they’re writing down forms together
LOL!
My whole reaction to that scene was 😖🤢😝
Spencer is being a lil too extra. He needs to stop. I know Esme is blah blah but u are the brother not the father. Chill already. Working with Victor is ur first mistake.
Don't believe that baby is even Nicholas's.. who knows for sure. DNA test pls.
2:33 it sounds like his sinuses are clogged.
This whole Ace baby storyline and all of these scenes are making me queasy, like very nauseous. I don't want to see anymore of them.
Uncomfortable but a good storyline
#LMMN Awe hope Ace gets better 🩵
What does she mean "trying to prove" she hasn't been trying at all!
Kinda get to see in a way Franco and Esme!
He's getting mean
If a boy dad has sex with his girlfriend I could c that
This whole storyline feels really sketchy. Spencer wanting to take a baby away from its mother without her consent and without genuine evidence that she is unfit or a danger to the baby reeks of mysogyny, paternalism, and frankly is unethical. As a mom of young kids I feel like the writers on this storyline are being super insensitive to the questionable ethics of portraying Spencer as the town hero/protagonist and Esme continuing to be the antagonist. I’ve watched GH for most of my adult life and ive suffered through many bad storylines (Dante cheating on Lulu, Sam and that weird vampire storyline, etc.) but this isn’t just bad writing it’s morally wrong to portray the antagonist as someone who should have their baby taken away from them without just cause. Mothers have rights, and babies need their parents not their siblings. Laura isn’t arguing any of this, she’s just trying to get on esme’s side to gain her trust so she can eventually separate them. Seriously?!
Memory loss isn’t always permanent and Esmè didn’t even WANT THAT BABY- The baby was her “ACE” in the hole to keep Her out of Jail! His entire NAME was a reminder that her son was a PAWN! So if she were to get her memory back she COULD be a danger- I wonder would everybody be this understanding if Heather Webber lost her memory and became “nice”- ESMÈ wouldn’t even give her the time of day-But she expects everyone else to? All Esmè is doing is waiting for everyone to put their guard down- so she can go in for the kill…
As a mom of young kids, I don’t consider that to be just cause for the forced removal of an infant from it’s only surviving parent. It’s super sketchy and I wonder if this would happen if the head writers were female. I would be surprised if a real world court of law would also deem that justifiable, for two reasons: 1/ it’s difficult to prove intent and 2/ intent while pregnant does not represent evidence of being an unfit caregiver once baby is born. I wonder how I can give feedback to the writers. I also wonder if they would care.
It’s not anymore sketchy than having her drug a jock girl the. Try to pin a crime in her knowing how racist the criminal justice sysyem. So then they make mommy so that she doesn’t pay for her crimes. As a mom, I have no issues for her getting comeuppance. Lbr that child is better off with Laura and Kevin. But they want the white girl to get away with her crimes while the black girl was raked over the coals.
Let's put things in perspective Esme is evil mother or not she needs to pay for her crimes yes CRIMES in case you forgot she drugged someone not once but twice, attempted murder on that bartender, recorded and distributed revenge porn. She set Ava's car on fire and taunted her bringing up memories of her dead daughter. She decided Spencer from the beginning he was just a pawn in her game, slept with her boyfriend's father. She did all of this willingly.
She needs to go to jail do her time then she can rejoin society and become that loving parent that she wants to be.
This storyline is weak.
you thinking they’re portraying Spencer as the protagonist and not absolutely bending over backwards to make you feel sorry for Esme after everything she’s done is so far off, but okay. Having a child doesn’t erase your past. Being a sex offender and attempted murderer are valid reasons for some to question your ability to parent. But don’t worry, they’re not actually taking her baby away and that won’t be the outcome of the story. It’s quite literally just a storyline meant to make you sympathize with Esme and look at you, it’s working :)
I Know for sure that my Boyfriend Nicholas is Not the father of Esme Prince's Son Ace father
I read that we were going to get a little bit of a love triangle…of sorts with Spencer Trina and Esme. While he appreciates all of the changes she has made his heart belongs to Trina. He and Trina WILL be together. I also heard that they putting Esme with Cam. Cam will be back on the show. Hang on y’all. Let’s see how this plays out.
A love triangle? Seriously? TF???🤦🏾♀️ You know what, most of Sprina fandom could and would come up with better storytelling than this bs.
@@blackbutterfly3364 I know I know. From what I read it’s supposed to be brief.
@@latonyafulton7151 Okay💯
@@blackbutterfly3364 yes, we are supposed to be pissed off…At first. I’m just watching to see how this plays out.
@@latonyafulton7151 So are they check to see if Spencer is resistant/immune to the bacteria that is, Esme Prince?🤣
Damn sorry to be shallow but Nicholas Chavez 😮💨🤭 he’s looking extra fine lately I couldn’t even focus on this scene
He really is!🤣🤣🤣 It’s like Whoa Nic!! And the deep voice today- Girl!!🤣🤣🤣
You're not by yourself sis...LOL
Right. It’s the arms and BDE. I couldn’t even hear his lines. What went on? Idk
@@tameracoates398 I knew it wasn't just me tuning in on that voice! I'm betting it was either sinuses or allergies because it's only this episode. (Not like last time when that cold was noticeable from meeting Cameron at Kelly's to Britt's birthday party 🥳🎉)