The ACTUAL Fastest Distance Runner EVER || Track & Field Speed Breakdown

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  • @gordondoore1308
    @gordondoore1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    This is great but it is obvious that this 'rating system' favors runners who are better over 5k and 3k than 1500. If events had been weighed down to the same length or assigned a score in terms of a percentage of the world record, the rankings would be fairer and wouldn't favor 5k legends over 1500 legends. Again, great stuff. Love the videos.

    • @thedanishhabesha5656
      @thedanishhabesha5656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Kipchoge, Haile and bekele were also better at distances over 5 k

    • @CodxMasterxAlex
      @CodxMasterxAlex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Great point, alternatively the IAAF scoring tables assign points to times/distances in all events like in decathlon so this would solve the 5k being weighted disproportionately problem. I suppose yet another alternative here would be to scale all 3 times up to a 15k time and then average them, this would equal the weighting of the 3 events.

    • @yugdesai4140
      @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But 5k runners are usually worse at 1500 and 3000 as mid distance runners dominate those so including all of them is a good goldilocks position to be in

    • @jonathanhole2972
      @jonathanhole2972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Alternatively, you can consider the quantity: Athlete's 1500m personal best/WR 1500m + Athlete's 3000m personal best/WR 3000m + Athlete's 5000m personal best/WR 5000m. Then all events are weighted equally and the lower the score the better, 3 being the minimum. Then, Komen get's 3.020, Bekele get's 3.042, Geb get's 3.050 and El G get's 3.023. So even then, Komen is the best

    • @kontrackandfield8506
      @kontrackandfield8506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1500m is mid distance though

  • @AnthonyMcqueen1987
    @AnthonyMcqueen1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Daniel Komen is overlooked by so many because he only competed in a small time-frame 1996 - 1998 but he got world records in that time that are still held today. This man was a rare human specimen in the sport of distance running. I dont believe we will ever see a distance running talent/monster like Komen ever again he ran for his family and not for fame and glory like most in the sport. This man deserves nothing but respect from the distance running world and a hall of famer for sure with the IAAF.
    Keep these vids coming you are my one stop shop when it comes to the sport of running.

    • @hanphilnoffz8827
      @hanphilnoffz8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol coincidence that he pull trahan when Ryan was born that year

    • @niteshpatel4146
      @niteshpatel4146 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      East African athletics are very poor. They run to feed their family and as a consequence they tend to overrun and once they make money they start partying which leads to their downfall. Daniel Komen was truly a great runner

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, he was a total animal despite the short career, people that deny his greatness just need to look at the times honestly, third fastest 5k in history, a sub 3:30 1500 for a long distance runner, even crazier, then a world record in the 3k, beyond anyone else by three whole seconds, bekele couldn't even do that for the longer 5k

    • @rayfreeth5156
      @rayfreeth5156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thoroughly agree friend

  • @kny7937
    @kny7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Komen was interviewed recently in a Kenyan radio station and the guys interviewing him were honestly Abit disrespectful, it was like they didn't really know how good he was.

    • @God-cm5xs
      @God-cm5xs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Any place to find recording of this?

    • @spiken6017
      @spiken6017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah woule be intresting

    • @chrispajak540
      @chrispajak540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most doped.

    • @God-cm5xs
      @God-cm5xs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mwafrika Halisi amazing thanks for links !

    • @kny7937
      @kny7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mwafrikahalisi2549 that was a different interview

  • @JulianChreist
    @JulianChreist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Bekele and Gebrselassie are the goats, but it's without question that Komen was the most talented runner ever.

  • @itclientservices
    @itclientservices 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Wouldn't using points make more sense for this because this makes it so that your 5k time is more important than your 1500m time as saving 1 second in the 5k is the same as saving 1/3 of a second in the 1500m.

    • @nufaa5313
      @nufaa5313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Good point

    • @daltonpulsipher
      @daltonpulsipher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly what I came here to say. You have to use scoring otherwise the longer events have a larger impact on the rankings.

    • @coleabrahams9331
      @coleabrahams9331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *not 1/3 of a second. More like 3/10 of a second, but yeah, you’re not far off. A points system would work better, but not necessarily be the best way to measure whether athletes are the greatest distance runners of all time

    • @closmasmas9080
      @closmasmas9080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be fair, unless you view 5k races as being more of a distance event than 3k and 1500

    • @nathankeliher9313
      @nathankeliher9313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that points are a good approach. Jon Mulkeen does this for sprinters (100-200-400) and it makes for a good comparison: www.jonmulkeen.com/blog/athletics/fastest-womens-combined-sprinters-100m-200m-400m/

  • @PotemkinDogs1
    @PotemkinDogs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Komen's 3000m record is the most untouchable record of all track & field events on the men's side, with the possible exception of Bolt's 100m

    • @mwasie
      @mwasie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You are very smart because that's what I always say. Those two records may not be broken for another generation. Let me ask you though, I'm still debating which is tougher to break.........3000m or 100m record.

    • @trackrapper3604
      @trackrapper3604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It might be the 1500m record tbh. The only person within 2 seconds of it is Absel Kiprop, who got caught doping.

    • @PotemkinDogs1
      @PotemkinDogs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@trackrapper3604 Can't deny that's a solid record as well, but I don't think it's at the same level of untouchability. Bernard Lagat actually ran a 3:26 in a sprint finish with El G, and Noureddine Morceli's former record was a 3:27. There was also another 3:27 runner like 6 years ago. Meanwhile other than one run by El G which seems like an impressive outlier itself, everyone else in history is at least 5 seconds behind Komen's record.

    • @PotemkinDogs1
      @PotemkinDogs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mwasie Man, I can't decide which is harder, but I'd bet on the 100m being broken first, simply because the 100m has more fame, glory, and therefore more athletes and coaches dedicating their lives to it, and more programs spending big money on scholarships and prize money, etc.
      I'd agree it could be decades though. Only Blake and Gay have even broken 9.7 (9.69), and Bolt's setting the bar at 9.58. Insane.

    • @alexanderhansen6134
      @alexanderhansen6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The problem for the 3000m is that it is not an Olympic distance and you can't win a gold medal at this most important event nor the World Championships. Therefore many guys contentrate and attempt more on 1500m or 5000m.
      But I agree, the 3000m record is still the strongest and most untouchable one!

  • @kristoferwong2287
    @kristoferwong2287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    This was absolutely great Legends of the Distance Running World and I hope to reach up there one day as well

    • @No.Mo.Framezz
      @No.Mo.Framezz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I wish you the best of luck my man 🙏

    • @jaysofon
      @jaysofon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You will!

    • @firstbornjordan
      @firstbornjordan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Keep your passion, go for it!

    • @uglyjihad
      @uglyjihad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Do workouts everyday and stay healthy, drink TONS of water

    • @Blue1Sapphire
      @Blue1Sapphire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good goal to have but a lot of discipline required.

  • @rooneymara8061
    @rooneymara8061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow, East African dominance...Ethiopia and Kenya are something else. Shout out to the Algerian and Moroccan as well. A truly impressive time throughout.

  • @PotemkinDogs1
    @PotemkinDogs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Geb achieved those times training for 10,000. The fact that he actually ran a 3:31 1500m indoors shows that he could have surely gone sub-3:30 outdoors if he'd chosen to specialize there.

  • @magnuslundberg9675
    @magnuslundberg9675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's not often mentioned that Daniel Komen also won both 5000m and 10000m in World junior championships in -94 in Lisbon.

  • @kiwiauldphart
    @kiwiauldphart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    before I watched this video I thought it would be Daniel Komen.
    Let's be real....he still holds 3 world records 20 plus years after he set them.
    The 3,000m WR indoors, the 3,000m WR outdoors and the 2 mile WR of 7:58.61..... he is the only man to run under 8 min for 2 miles (and he's done it twice!)

  • @waylaidsavant
    @waylaidsavant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love it! Would also love another vid with a focus on long distance taking times from 10km, half and full. And ranking on a relative scale. Thanks!

  • @rc_matic
    @rc_matic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    After his world record 5000m, Joshua Cheptegei would land at number 6!
    1500m: 3:37.82
    3000m: 7:33.26
    5000m: 12:35.36
    Total: 23:46.44
    And there’s no reason to think he couldn’t take a few seconds off the 3000m, especially when ran a 7:35.1 3000m split during his 5000m record run!

    • @wilhelmw3455
      @wilhelmw3455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan C And the 1500m

  • @SamTeller
    @SamTeller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Komen was one of the first pros that I ever met. He left such a great impression on me as a young athlete. What a legend.

  • @kartikiyer747
    @kartikiyer747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Daniel Komen’s story which you had highlighted in another video shows what a lightening bolt he was...an extremely powerful four short flash of unmatched brilliance!

  • @kimmern999
    @kimmern999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing Daniel Komen. I love how you manage to actually "prove" that he is indeed the fastest distance runner to ever grace this earth.

  • @firstbornjordan
    @firstbornjordan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Total Running Productions. Komen was my No.1 pick. Great to see his short lived running days honoured and recognised in this way. To put some perspective on Daniel Komen's epic achievements he is the only runner who ever ran sub 4 minute mile back to back (i.e. 2 miles under 8 minutes). He did this twice and was on target a third time to smash his record when he ran the record breaking 7:20.67 3000 metres. I believe he broke the 2000 metre record during that same run. Thank you,

  • @racertv5202
    @racertv5202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a total time of approx 23:44 which would put him at 5th place
    5000m 12:48
    3000m 07:27
    1500m 03:28

  • @johnb7226
    @johnb7226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Daniel Komen is the first and so far only man to run two miles in under eight minutes with a world record 7:58.61.

  • @whowantstoknow2
    @whowantstoknow2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't anyone agree more when it's come in middle distance running to Daniel Komon. Definitely he is superior in this. Please do on long distance running 5000-10,000-21km. Hope to see kipchogi, haile, , poll target, zersenay and of course kenenisa .

    • @benanastasoff8980
      @benanastasoff8980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please. This video was great for greatest middle distance runner ever, but it put the long distance guys at total disadvantage. I would very much like to see a more long distance focus video, or one with the 10,000m as well. I personally think 1500-10,000 would bring together the top distance runner list most accurately. I would bet something like that would bring in Rupp, Farah, and additionally boost Bekele and Gebrselassie.
      It would be cool though to see a video like this for sprinters and road runners as well. (100-400 for sprints and 10km-marathon for road)

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benanastasoff8980 Aren't I following you on strava, also that sounds like a decent idea

    • @benanastasoff8980
      @benanastasoff8980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kai Smithley yeah

  • @aladdinsmith3469
    @aladdinsmith3469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From the sound of this young man's voice my reason calling him that and would like to commend his efforts in putting the videos together I only can imagine the time spent researching the material that seemed to be on point of accuracy. I was to see a Kenyan top dog ,#1 greatest and being old school from way back doing the Kip Kano era I give credit to Kip Kano for now seeing Kenyans among the top 10 sharing of course with the Etiopians I think they been at it years before the Kenyans.

  • @mikenshirl
    @mikenshirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Check your stats, Haile ran 3:31 1500 "indoors"!

  • @joeydabeast8598
    @joeydabeast8598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    By distance running he means track so the way to make Bekele first is add the 10k as well

    • @yugdesai4140
      @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely agree with the distances he has chosen because distance running includes middle distances as well and middle distance runners have a clear disadvantage to long distance runners when it comes to shaving total aggregate time from a race. For example, it is much harder to shave 5 seconds off of your 1500 meters than 5000meters.

    • @hutchmusician
      @hutchmusician 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yug desai Harder to shave 5 seconds off a longer distance than a shorter one? How do you figure that out?

    • @ethanennis8
      @ethanennis8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yug desai you have that backwards

    • @Kmunz7
      @Kmunz7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you factor in the 10k and cross country, there's no question that it's Bekele.

    • @שריאללרר
      @שריאללרר 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you add the 10k and marathon
      No one comes close to Bekele

  • @mwasie
    @mwasie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm at number two and I think Daniel Komen is #1
    Yes I was right! What separates Komen from others is that 3000m record. I think still it's the hardest distance record in history. Even the great Hicham was 3 seconds behind.

    • @hanphilnoffz8827
      @hanphilnoffz8827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol he would do sooo good at military fitness test

    • @alexanderhansen6134
      @alexanderhansen6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hanphilnoffz8827 Right. I was thinking: "Let these guys try the Cooper test"

    • @mwasie
      @mwasie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Military fitness tests can be passed by healthy individuals.................breaking world records on the other hand......................ummm big difference.

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mwasie Yeah that would be kind of a waste of his talents

    • @hopesolo6233
      @hopesolo6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But he was using drugs

  • @Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
    @Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After his world record Joshua Cheptegei has...
    1500m - 3:37.82
    3000m - 7:33.26
    5000m - 12:35.36
    Total of 23:46.44 that puts him at #6

    • @DuckyGaming86
      @DuckyGaming86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jakob ingebrigtsen have better:
      1500 Metres 3:28.68
      3000 Metres 7:27.05
      5000 Metres 12:48.45
      23:44:18

  • @Kipchoge475
    @Kipchoge475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks for reminding us of the great Daniel Komen.

  • @Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
    @Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    So no love for the 10,000m :(

    • @dekaiaverett3265
      @dekaiaverett3265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The idea was to put the most commonly ran distance events from athletes that cover a number of distances. Not to mention that athletes like Daniel Komen and Hicham El Guerrouj have never ran a 10K and are definetely in the GOAT conversation.

  • @roahforeva
    @roahforeva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how no one understands how insane fast this is, it's pretty much super human. Simply put Komen will whip yo ass!

  • @DSMITH-cz7xi
    @DSMITH-cz7xi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Andrew,it's obvious YOU make the very best running focused videos,barring no one(attention TO detail is why I never miss an upload)...keep them coming!!

  • @nickyork8901
    @nickyork8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Komen's times are amazing and I was really surprised to hear about him, having heard much more about the other runners on this list in recent years. For example, as I'm from the UK I tried comparing his times against Mo Farah, double Olympic gold medallist in 2012 for 5k and 10k. His 5000m beats Sir Mo Farah's PB by nearly 14 seconds, and his 3000m by around 12 seconds, while his 1500m is about the same (just slightly slower than Mo's).

  • @zber9043
    @zber9043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw Komen run a sub 8 minute 2 miles in Sydney in 1999 (or was it 2001?). He was an awesome metronome that night. One of the few times I saw my Dad jump up out of his seat in excitement, pumping the air on the last lap cheering Komen with about 10000 other people on to the record. He was generally pretty reserved except for when he was watching world records get broken. Come to think of it I remember him getting hyped when watching Koch break the 400m record too in my 5 year old mind.

  • @alexanderhansen6134
    @alexanderhansen6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Bekele and Haile were fast over 1500m, but not world class. El Guerrouj definitely has a world class 5000m PB, but is still far way from 12:37.
    Komen has it all!

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      El Geuerrouj ran the 5000 after kick n butt in the mile. If he ever opened up all the gears it would have been lights out. You guys are wrong. Geuerrouj is the best. Just watch when he ran a national road relay race was the best split ever run on the road he virtually caught up and passed another elite runner. The most amazing split ever. I made my case and El geuerrouj reigns the best

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was in 1994 in the world road relay ....Watch him blow smoke. This is simply a fact................

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In that relay El Guerrouj destroyed the kenyan and ethopian runners.................

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krakhour2 times don't lie and relay splits aren't official times

    • @krakhour2
      @krakhour2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kaismithley6173 Name once that komen ever beat el geourrj ....come on really...be realistic komen cant beat him. Never could. Ridiculous to call komen better. I think Mo farah should have been top 5. ..2 time double olympic champion and he doesnt get on the list total running production cant always go by time.....Races are sometime tactical but doesnt mean that komen could beat mo farah in any race under 10 k

  • @ES-lx6vv
    @ES-lx6vv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legends.
    I grew up watching them through TH-cam.
    They're a real inspiration
    ❤️
    Love them till i grow old

  • @justinflosi2550
    @justinflosi2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    “The REAL Fastest MIDDLE Distance Runner...”
    There, fixed it! ;)

    • @reinismartinsons
      @reinismartinsons 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      5000 is middle distance? 3000 maybe, for some people, and 1500 is undoubtedly mid distance, but this list heavilly favours 5000 over 1500.

    • @yugdesai4140
      @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I completely agree with the distances he has chosen because distance running includes middle distances as well and middle distance runners have a clear disadvantage to long distance runners when it comes to shaving total aggregate time from a race. For example, it is much harder to shave 5 seconds off of your 1500 meters than 5000 meters.

    • @justinflosi2550
      @justinflosi2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First off, I really liked this video. I found it to be a very interesting thought exercise. There are two problems for me: one, the distances he has chosen skew more toward middle distance than long distance, and two, his methodology (simply aggregating the times) privileges the longer distances. Perhaps that was intentional, as a way of making up for the fact that the distances are on the shorter end of the spectrum. However, I just don’t think it’s compelling to call someone the fastest distance runner ever without considering races over 5000m!

    • @zber9043
      @zber9043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      800 is the only real middle distance. 1500 is a distance race. You have to train for it like a distance runner. 10k plus is „Long“ distance.

    • @justinflosi2550
      @justinflosi2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Middle Distance”
      -noun
      1.
      the part of a real or painted landscape between the foreground and the background.
      2.
      a race distance of between 800 and 5,000 meters.
      "middle-distance runners"
      Definitions from Oxford Languages

  • @knutthompson7879
    @knutthompson7879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Komen ran with abandon and was a fierce competitor. Yes all of these guys were, but he was next level. You hear his story and it makes sense, but maybe it was a little too much. It would have been nice to see what he could do if he didn't run himself into the ground, but when he was at the top, he was amazing.

  • @seanjennings3134
    @seanjennings3134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well we are now obviously gonna have to see a 10K, half and full marathon total time list :)

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's exactly what I was thinking, but then I realized some of the fastest in each of those categories haven't run all three events

  • @RockySucre5
    @RockySucre5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video should be called Fastest Middle distance runners of all time. Now you should do a video Fastest Long Distance Runners ranging from 10k, Half Marathon, and Marathon.

    • @Vegathlete
      @Vegathlete 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right you are!

  • @foxfoster1
    @foxfoster1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Top 10 most versatile runners

  • @CliveBramham
    @CliveBramham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful to watch the composition and analysis! Jakob Ingebrigtsen is poised to enter the list after his next 5000. When the same comparison is made in 5 years, with the distances weighted differently as discussed by others, Ingebrigtsen will be number 1.... and we can throw in the 800 and 10000 for good measure.

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Komen, Bekele, Gebrselassie, El Guerrouj, Kipchoge - nobody today is anywhere close to their level, except of course that Kenenisa Bekele is still running marathons, as is Kipchoge.
    Left off of this list was Paul Tergat, probably because he did not run the 1500. Tergat was very close to the level of Gebreselassie during their career.

  • @jeffbaxter5260
    @jeffbaxter5260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would like to see a revisit of this with Jakob ingebrigtsen's current times

    • @janpetter1965
      @janpetter1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Total Running Productions
      He would be in second place with a total time of 23.32.73.
      - 1500 - 3.26.73
      - 3000 - 7.17.55
      - 5000 - 12.48.45
      Jacob Ingebrigtsen needs to run a 5000 meter in 12.44.91 or faster to topp this list.

  • @JMR6813
    @JMR6813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every single person on this group is African, so, what I am hearing is that Africans, especially east Africans are the greatest long distance runners of all time. It truly is amazing how much faster they are compared to any other people groups in the world!

  • @omgiheartpie
    @omgiheartpie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Haile Gebrselassie ran 3:31 indoors by the way. But great compilation man

    • @alphaecka1949
      @alphaecka1949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man manohar traneing to hear you combine the times of three separate event is there such an event are you f****** idiot that you continue doing it throughout the whole thing there is absolutely no such thing there's no aggregate of what time you split in between where you running or about autographs I need time and different laps where do you get the idiotic deception from or bad dope you smoking

  • @johnsladeharris
    @johnsladeharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done! One note I had is that the list benefits runners who are stronger in the 5000m and partially the 3000m. Because these are inherently longer events, the percent difference is 2-3x that of a favored 1500m runner. Ex: someone who runs 3:28 compared to a 3:34 has a six second advantage has a 2.9% edge over the other. Whereas a 12:50 5000m runner compared to a 12:56 runner has a 0.8% advantage, while still only being 6 seconds of difference. I think if you were to make each category weighted the same that would make the scoring system fairer.

  • @PrentisHancock1
    @PrentisHancock1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had Komen at number 1 from the beginning. But I'm trying to break your list and so far I've failed, so good job on this one!

    • @TotalRunningProductions
      @TotalRunningProductions  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you sir! If you find any flaws definitely let me know. Appreciate the fact check!

  • @ronny9.794
    @ronny9.794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ZATOPEKS 1952 OLYMOICS WAS BEYOND BELIEF AND IS TRAINING ROUTINE WS INSANE

  • @finnsweeney9984
    @finnsweeney9984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great vid but What you could do to be more accurate is you should have multiplied the time for the shorter distance to equal simple times of that of the longest race the 5k because the 5k time has the most impact on the results. Doing this el guerriuj and laggat would be higher in the list because there best event is the 1500 wich impact the overal times the least. This is the same reason why a 10 second improvement in the 1500 is harder than the to do it in the 5k.

  • @Alot0fmonkeys
    @Alot0fmonkeys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just what I needed before going on my long run 🏃‍♂️

  • @toddbuckone
    @toddbuckone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How could everyone who was trying to figure out #1 not realize it's Komen?? He's the thumbnail of the video! haha
    I'm not sure if this is a true distance running ranking, though. 1500 and 3000 are hardly distance events. It would be interesting to see the 5k, 10k, half, and full marathon ranking list.
    Regardless, great video and it was fun to see the PRs of these legends!

  • @closmasmas9080
    @closmasmas9080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Me trying to figure out who is faster than Bekele: 👁👄👁
    Me when I realize it’s Daniel Komen: 🤦🏻

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think you realize how insane daniel komen is

    • @robinkh6017
      @robinkh6017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      EPO in his veins

    • @unsungzero787
      @unsungzero787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robin KH Prove it, or stop lying

    • @kaismithley6173
      @kaismithley6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@unsungzero787 I'm with you, either everyone is on it or noone is, some people just have better preparation and training and coaching than others

  • @blakestockard702
    @blakestockard702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely a great video but would also like another video weighting the 3 events differently. Again LOVE what you do though. Always super engaging.

  • @apaarsadhwani
    @apaarsadhwani 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One can certainly talk about the "right" metric for rating, but what really surprises me is that on this very simple metric (sum of 3 times) there is a winner by such a large margin!!

  • @kigen6400
    @kigen6400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That ending music though...🥴 (Daniel Komen)
    Also, I approve of this video!

  • @christiana3941
    @christiana3941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Total Running Productions-- I would love to see your data tables and how you keep track of all performances of all the greats. Pretty impressive with the shear number of videos you produce.

  • @stefenrasmuson7768
    @stefenrasmuson7768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do another video adding the 10k and marathon! Those are more of a distance event than the 1500 is!

  • @Juneee3411
    @Juneee3411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i think your math is flawed. the way your doing it makes the longer distances more important. if you want to make them all equal you should just do their avg lap pace for each distance and add them together. pretty sure daniel would still be the best but im betting el G or some of the people with under 330 1500m times would probably move up the list a little.

    • @coleabrahams9331
      @coleabrahams9331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That still wouldn’t be favorable. A better, but not necessarily the best, method would be to utilize the point system created by the IAAF / World Athletics and use those.

    • @alistairwillock7266
      @alistairwillock7266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you read all the complaints on here about how 1500-5k are actually middle distance, I think you'll see why he _didn't_ use a weighting system. I'm fine with the methodology, and this system.

  • @janpetter1965
    @janpetter1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Total Running Productions
    Jacob Ingebrigtsen would be in second place with a total time of 23.32.73.
    - 1500 - 3.26.73
    - 3000 - 7.17.55
    - 5000 - 12.48.45
    He needs to run a 5000 meter in 12.44.91 or faster to topp this list.

  • @pgdiaz5537
    @pgdiaz5537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    absolutely, with this 3 distances. komen was no.1. as a proof, his 3,000m record indoor/outdoor was one of the oldest event in athletics that still standing.... haile is the GOAT of distance running.

  • @distantlight4527
    @distantlight4527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is Daniel Komen not on that top 10 ever list? Crushes half of them at least in outright ability.

  • @Oni1One
    @Oni1One 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's about time that they should make a video game 'The Legends of Distance Running'. I would buy it. It would be a good educational game for newbies to running as well. :)

  • @mikephalen3162
    @mikephalen3162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given improvements in track surfaces, shoes, training and diet, etc., the accomplishments of runners from 20 years ago are more impressive than those of more recent track stars.

  • @yugdesai4140
    @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He has been super smart about choosing the distances that he did because distance running includes middle distances as well and middle distance runners have a clear disadvantage to long distance runners when it comes to shaving total aggregate time from a race. For example, it is much harder to shave 5 seconds off of your 5000 meters than 1500 meters. By choosing 1500 and 3000 meters, he is trying to compensate for mid distance runners from the loss of time that they gain over 5k.

  • @justinbartley5245
    @justinbartley5245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep,komen was my guess before i watched,epic ability that didnt register anywhere near what it should have within athletics..bravo daniel!

  • @edwinkarani5593
    @edwinkarani5593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daniel Komen is a monster with a big heart who is not recognized.

  • @ig2d
    @ig2d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great content as usual. However - I would weight the times according to the distance.
    ie multiply the 1500 time by 10/3 and multiply the 3000m time by 5/3 and add these times to the 5000m time

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    5k, 10k, and Marathon would be more relevant.......and Bekele would be #1.

    • @superlicorice3658
      @superlicorice3658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The only problem I think is that a lot of 1500-5000 runners in the conversation haven’t run the marathon yet, and also that since the marathon takes so long to run it would dominate the calculation. Ex: Mo farah runs like a 2:05 so anyone with a 2:03 would be ranked higher than him since it’s virtually impossible to make up 2 minutes over 5k and 10k

    • @Bonobopantherienbionique
      @Bonobopantherienbionique 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@superlicorice3658 yeah but the title is fastest distance runners. 1500, 3000 and 5000 are all middle distance events.
      Just lmao

    • @dekaiaverett3265
      @dekaiaverett3265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Bonobopantherienbionique 5K is not Mid Distance, and the 3K is arguable. Plus Komen and El Guerrouj have never ran the 10K or above and they are some of the greatest distance runners of all time.

    • @semansco
      @semansco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bonobopantherienbionique You want to check your facts on 5000 meters being middle distance?

    • @Bonobopantherienbionique
      @Bonobopantherienbionique 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@semansco ok mb 2 middle distance events and the shortest wc/olympic distance events.
      You good?

  • @htmonaro1969
    @htmonaro1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video, although I have a slight question mark over your assessment of the 3000m. The 1500m and 5000m are recognised championship events, but the 3000m is really only a championship event for female and age group athletes. Perhaps you should consider the 1500m, 5000m and 10000m or just the 1500m and 5000m. Otherwise, very impressive research.

  • @sam1016kim
    @sam1016kim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I enjoyed the video but I think this isn’t really a good way to rank the athletes. It would be easier for athletes who are stronger in the 5k to be ranked higher on the list due to the fact that it’s easier to take larger chunks of time off on longer distances

    • @yugdesai4140
      @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s why he has included 1500 AND 3000 to compensate for mid distance runners. Having any other than this specific combination would favor more to either mid distance runners or long distance runners

  • @tomkie9274
    @tomkie9274 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do that for 10k + Half Marathon + Marathon! Also would love to see a video about ultra runners one day! Keep up the good work

  • @johnwilson5743
    @johnwilson5743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, TRP. Many thanks. Cheers.

  • @nufaa5313
    @nufaa5313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of his best videos, love the stats

  • @danielbeam2364
    @danielbeam2364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope he does this same type of video but with the 5000, 10000, and Marathon as the events instead.

  • @Vegathlete
    @Vegathlete 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very entertaining and enlightening comparison of these athletes to see just how fast they were on the track!
    An exclusivity here is inherently flawed, but could more accurately be defined were it to include all distances beyond the 5k. And to that end, the “Sub 24 Club” list dwindles in recognition of a marathon range, which for many, would have meant risking career detriment were they to dare achieve. To put Bekele 2nd only works if distance running comes to an abrupt halt at the 5k distance, which isn’t the case. For a nonsubjective rating, inclusion of all the long distances with all the fastest times incurred, will be rather essential. The structuring of a completely new database could utilize formulas for algorithms, in order to create a point system, within an IAAF rating format. This would likely prove a more robust and accurate method, eliminating many issues, such as the disparities in classification or disciplines and the consequential tendency for over simplification when categorizing “distance running” in general. All relevant data could then be input, purely objectively, and in terms of its factorable value. “The question almost impossible to answer” may well be answered once we finally decide to set records straight. So, while sub 24:00 is very elegant, we could see it fall flat on its face. Reducing these middle and long distance times to mere aggregations is incongruous and nearly antithetical. Naming “the fastest” seems biased, if one is fixated on 3 selected events to make the elusive determination. Rhetoric rife in audacious spin, throws us hard hitting jabs, like: “Today’s video is not an opinion, it’s simply a fact.”; then, at the end: “...and this clearly makes Daniel Komen the fastest distance runner ever to compete.”
    “Uncharted territory” aptly describes this “speed breakdown”, as approaching the problem needs refinement. Perhaps we’ll see “full range” distance runners, such as Gebrselassie and Bekele, recognized similarly with a combined time totaled from each event they competed in. Who has the fastest total? All steeplechasers too.
    Many sincere thanks to Andrew and TRP for putting these creatively informative discussion videos out there.

  • @calebt4yahweh210
    @calebt4yahweh210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha, *YES* I agree with this list of decorated distance runners, Komen and Bekele are close but Komen was better even though he never got the gold...*BUT are yall gonna sit here and ignore that my man behind TRP be analyzing, dissecting each elite distance runners and track race like its a National Treasure hunting series!!! *LMAO* AND he be putting out the best TH-cam videos on running... TOP DISTANCE track coverage YT channel.... 1. _Total Running Productions_
    Flotrack, Milesplit, EsPN Universal sports, BBC athletics and all others have become mere men among this kkind of content. Im sure the /gods/ legends will be proud! God bless you man! I wanna see more videos of you running!

  • @drnurallahmuhammad9077
    @drnurallahmuhammad9077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb analysis and presentation. Cheers

  • @jkr8179
    @jkr8179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joshua Cheptegei's 12:35.36WR in the 5000 shot him up to number 6 with a total time of 23:46.44

  • @yugdesai4140
    @yugdesai4140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only 4 atheletes went under 3:30 for 1500, under 7:30 for 3000 and under 13:00 for 5000, the mile stones that he said were extremely difficult to to break. They all deserve their own video.

  • @blindguardian1979
    @blindguardian1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's interesting that Komen had a faster 1500m than both Haile and Bekele...but, he didn't have a kick like they did (i.e., 52 sec last laps). He could keep that fast pace going perhaps better than them (55-57sec) but they had more pure speed imo.
    Also, not to take anything away from Komen but I do think Bekele had it in him to go sub 3:30 under right circumstance (i.e., his 2mile indoor WR shows he did have speed and that his outdoor PR 1,500m time is weak relatively)

  • @bernhardjost
    @bernhardjost 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should weight your total time for racing distance, i.e divide 1500m by 1.5, 3000m by 3 and 5000m by 5. Then just add up the three 1k times for a total time. Would be fairer for the 1500m specialists
    This way the ranking would look like:
    10 - Alamirew 7:26.23
    9 - Kipchoge 7:24.66
    8 - Kejelcha 7:24.42
    7 - Songok 7:23.97
    6 - Gebrselassie 7:22.72
    5 - Saidi-Sief 7:22.17
    4 - Lagat 7:21.95
    3 - Bekele 7:21.63
    2 - El-Guerrouj 7:19.08
    1 - Komen 7:18.48

  • @Itamey02
    @Itamey02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 3000m record is ridiculous. This will never be beaten.

  • @martinirving3824
    @martinirving3824 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an interesting breakdown. You can see that Gebrselasse and Bekele are 3 and 2 because of their 10k strength and speed. Komen was amazing over 3k and 2 miles. He still is the only guy to go under 8 minutes for 2 miles. However, I think El Guerrouj could also have done that, rather easily, if he cared to. I think El G. could have jogged 60.00 second laps for 7 laps and then thrown down a 57, 56, even 55 second last lap. Similarly with 3k. He just wasn't focused on those races. Respect to Komen for impressive 1500m and 10k times.

  • @MrBond-km7dq
    @MrBond-km7dq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daniel Komen and Noah Ng'eny,, these are once in a lifetime talents.

  • @rgdos1162
    @rgdos1162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Words can't express how Komen changed the track world forever in those three years. I remember it vividly, and it was almost comical when we would hear the results. WTF!!! Loved the TRP surprise with Said, doped up or not. I would also gamble both my kidneys off by saying El G. is the fastest runner on that list. He was very rare in that he stayed in his lane nearly his entire career. He didn't oscillate back and forth or go up to compensate for age and declining leg speed. I have no doubt he would own every world record up to the 10k if he CHOSE to. Bekele is truly a cross country phenomenon, and they don't always translate onto the track. He's not as fast or as strong as El G. With that said, I completely concur with Daniel as #1. Just a freaking alien on the track. I want to believe he is clean, but I find the speed of most everyone on your list to be super human. Just saying. ..
    And btw, Lagat isn't any more American than Biden is a presidential candidate 😯

  • @deathwave3909
    @deathwave3909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yomif, jakob, Cheptegei, Kamworor are the future( no disrespect to the greats) are the ones to look out for. I'm from TX.. a nobody that just loves running. I'm aware of a few potential good 1500-5000 m runners that will come out of TX as well. If they can hang with East Africans is a whole different ball game.

  • @joelhoeve
    @joelhoeve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As of 24-10-2021, Jakub Ingebrigtsen has a total of 23:43.82, placing him 5th! Amazing, since he is still only 21!

  • @animus3328
    @animus3328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as well...thank's from an ex 1500m runner.

  • @crore1669
    @crore1669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right when I refresh youtube I see this gold. ::)

  • @robinbauer1975
    @robinbauer1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Barega has 3:32 for 1500m 7:26 for 3.000m and 12:43 would he make the listt?

  • @michaelmcginley7930
    @michaelmcginley7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel keep it coming.you know your running

  • @teddy1234599
    @teddy1234599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it; BUT the TITLE IS WRONG: you're describing TRACK races which are MIDDLE-DISTANCE races. "Distance Runner" would HAVE to include the 10K, 1/2 Maratahon & Marathon; and perhaps NOT include the 1500.

  • @PrentisHancock1
    @PrentisHancock1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mo Farah is just outside this top 10 with 23:54. (1500m: 3:28.81, 3000m: 7:32.62, 5000m: 12:53.11). Ironically, his 1500m best is the best performance of the three, being that it still stands as the European Record, and he only ran it as a bit of fun (chasing Kiprop in Monaco)!

  • @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
    @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We just had one poster in our locker room - and it was GOAT Daniel komen. We were also a school for science and tech so I take it one of us had also done the math on that one

  • @God-cm5xs
    @God-cm5xs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Daniel Komen... calling it before I even watch the video 😂

    • @God-cm5xs
      @God-cm5xs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Update: just finished the video... I WAS RIGHT :D

  • @officialmusicshallconqr
    @officialmusicshallconqr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly wasnt even aware of Komen until this vid. Outside of his short career I think another disadvantage is the record he currently still holds in the 3000m event is not done at the Olympics by men.

  • @howardOKC
    @howardOKC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well organized and very nice video!

  • @StarfuryT
    @StarfuryT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm at #5 and I'm gonna guess, El G, Haile, Bekele and Daniel Komen, in that order. There is simply no one else left.

    • @Oni1One
      @Oni1One 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be a hell of a 4x3000m relay dream team! :)

  • @joelandenmatten9285
    @joelandenmatten9285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yomif Kejelcha and Jakob Ingebrigsten have better values now and they both might improve further. The same can be said about Jacob Kiplimo.

  • @raffaeledipascale2282
    @raffaeledipascale2282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's an unfair comparison. Obviously the seconds of difference about the 5000m are 10 times more heavy then the seconds of difference about the 1500m. For example, a difference of 10s in a 5000m race is not so important like a difference of 5s in a 1500m race. That's why you can't simply sum all the time, because each time has a different weight for each discipline.

  • @indiepewpc7227
    @indiepewpc7227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Komen’s 3000 meter outdoor world record is going to be the longest standing world record in man’s track and field history

  • @ngomusoqwabe4684
    @ngomusoqwabe4684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW crazy content. Super lovely