4:00 "They would only be shunned if they committed some serious sin." LIST OF SERIOUS SINS IN THE WTBTS: 1. Changing your membership to a Bible believing non-JW congregation. 2. Refusing to believe that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 and publicly voicing that position throughout the congregation. 3. Publicly telling fellow members that they are biblically free to partake in the bread & wine based off of forgiveness of sins in Christ and not based on whether or not they feel that their destination is heavenly or earthly. 4. Being an elder or deacon and telling baptism candidates that they don't have to answer over 50 questions before being baptized such as: What is God's purpose for the earth? What is the human soul? Can it die? By what means will God destroy the wicked? Why do people die? What is God's law concerning blood? How many from among mankind will be in heaven with Christ? What will they do there? 4. Register at a conservative Bible College to pursue a Master's in Theology & Biblical Studies.
radiomanze1 look a body of water what prevents me from getting baptised? Um, 120 questions, three meetings with elders, studying two books, reaching various titles such as becoming an unbaptized publisher which also requires questions and at least one meeting with elders hmm... What else? Basically it's pretty complicated stuff. You can't just get baptised because you believe Jesus died for your sins and was raised up like the Bible says. Also you need to get baptised into a spirit directed organization not in the name of the father son and holy spirit like the Bible says.
I seriously cant believe this guy was so nice and patient, as he suffered through one of the most full on truth pummeling's I have ever heard you give. Wow!!!
Excellent effective approach! I like that you pose a question and stick to it--even being able to weave in organization history and ARC! He never feels ATTACKED and OVERWHELMED because you don't use your whole arsenal at once. He felt comfortable enough to LISTEN and TRY to respond. The more you ASK and don't TELL, the more he had to THINK. I doubt he'll hit up JWFacts today, but it's in his head for sure! The end of the call was well-timed. I think he wanted to keep going with the conversation!
Awake! 6/8/1986, p. 9 "God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God ... Jehovah's Witnesses." Remember: Those who claim to be God's spokesman or his prophet are tested by Deuteronomy 18:20-22, and the requirement for such ones is infallibility: no errors allowed, or else anyone making such a claim is to be disregarded and judged as a false prophet.
I love how you challenged him by telling him, "you're smart enough to fact check for yourself". They are all smart enough, but most are not willing to even look.
"You're smart enough to know whether they're real or bogus" - great stuff. ps. His voice is sexy as hell. An unlucky born-in, a misled cowboy w/ a heart of gold.
Bowrudder,...Perhaps the word you meant to use is ...'Sower'...not 'Sewer'...which has a totally different meaning...I , certainly, would not like to classify Bridget as 'sewing' seeds in the 'Gutter'...Besides, 'Sewing' is a craft very useful in domestic settings and can and does save money as well..No insult intended to you or to Bridget..Kind Regards, Arnold.(UK).
COME BACK TO JEHOVAH = come back to meetings, GET ACTIVATED = go door to door. How is it that they believe the only way you can have God's love is through them? Oh that's right "THE GOVERNING BODY"=Jesus Christ. Two things they said that were absolutely true. 1 Read your Bible daily. 2 If you read it on your own and pray on your own, you will become and APOSTATE!= born again Christian. Pray for them, they live in a lot of needless pain. Peace
The sheep can't believe the org is corrupt. Matt 7:15 Acts 20:29 He started out so grumpy, I thot he'd be a dud. But he's actually holding on to his salvation in his mind & heart which is admirable. He's got a kind voice & meek manner. So great to call them out on their false analogies. Satan can only replicate, twist or fake you out, he can't create as he is evil. All he can do is use confusion & haziness to his advantage. Hiding in plain sight. Certain laws of truth are set which he must work within. And he has grown up intertwined with the good until the threshing.
You sowed a lot of seeds, you never know...........what I like about him, is that he listened, not like the others who just cut you off when they don't like what you say.
I'm suprised how many will tell you how many years they've been a witness like that validates something for them. Oh it must be the truth cos I've believed it all my life ...
I’m weak! 😂🤣😅 You are actually ”unwitnessing” to them & they don’t even know it. You rock Bridget!!! All he can say is “ Jehovah is the source of life” in a robotic 🤖 tone. I’m rotfl 😆 😂 Thank you 🙏🏽
This guy hung right in there and didn't call you an apostate and hang up! When he first answered the phone and I heard his voice, I thought this guy won't last long. That being said, you may have gotten through to him. This one might, just might do some research. He actually seemed to listen. Not very many would have let you get that far. I hope your discussion with him, really makes him think.
I never stopped praying to Jehovah long after I left and I am opening my heart to Jesus even more . I didn't leave God, I left a religion. When it comes down to it I have a choice to believe according to my conscience, because if something I'm being told isn't right that doesn't mean I'm leaving God. I had thought about going back many times but when it came down to certain doctrine that I can no longer with an honest conscience, go door to door and teach since I'd be required too, I have decided amongst many other things I've learned, I will not be doing that. I have no desire to do anything wrong. The biggest thing I have a problem with is my sister shunning me. Religion should not damage families. If they want to stop mixing in company with serious wrongdoers I think undoubtedly that should be the pedophiles their two Wittness rule has protected. Yes there are good hearted people in the faith that are not aware of such cover ups. I'm surprised he stuck it out with you. I have to give him kudos for that. Hood job. I hope he someday researches the facts. Today there are so many religions who claim they have the true doctrine of God and teach that horrible things will happen if we leave. Saying that one is leaving God is a hurtful tactic. If someone is leaving the LDS, they are leaving God, if someone leaves the Moonies, they are leaving God leave the Catholic church and they are told they are going to Hell for leaving God. Do they think it makes sense to research other religions to avoid being lead wrong? YES THEY DO BUT NOT THEIRS. When it comes down to it, our lives shouldn't depend on knowing wether the end is coming or wether there is a hell . If we are Gods children he's not going to expect us to have all the answers but I believe we should be good people and not hurt others. We learn from making mistakes sure but unless we are violating someone's human rights which involves theft, murder , violence and rape of innocent victims, minor sins should not have to endure the harsh punishment of silent treatment. Especially toward family such as our children. Person's need professional help. There are articles about silent treatment which is the same as shunning. It's ABUSE...plain and simple.
that's so sad your sister is shunning you. -- THat's so true, it's such a lie that we have to belong to some group or organization to have a relationship with God, when the Bible clearly tells us it's only through faith in Christ. God bless you, Random!
Next time I see a JW, I'm going to ask them that too. I want to know how leaving an Organization could possibly be leaving God. Thanks for asking that!!!
Denise Hedberg66 I left the JW's and my elder dad specifically asked me if I still believed in God. I think they wonder how you can still worship God if you are not gathering together with other Christians to do so.
J. M. When a person decides to follow Christ instead of men, Jesus makes it easy for us to know others that know Jesus. Seeing as we are all a part of His body!! We dont need to wear name tags or carry a bag full of men's books! We only need God's word and faith! Ones that follow Jesus have NO reason to lie. Yet JW's think lying is ok if they are doing it to protect the Org. Then they just call it Theocratic Warfare and it's ok??? Jesus needs no lies to protect Him!! Sheep just need the Shepherd and all other things He gives us! We have no fear because our Shepherd protects US!! Watch the video on YT called ,"Is it true that sheep only listen to their shepherd". Then you will see!
Denise Hedberg66 Right but the sheep still meet in churches and kingdom halls because Jesus told them to associate together. I would think most Christians wonder if someone really worships God if they are like a lone wolf and don't get together with others who believe in Christ and God. However in those Churches and Halls I am sure not all attendees are "sheep" that belong to Christ. I also think that every Christian faith can't interpret the scriptures perfectly. Some understand better than others. I think the Catholic faith for example is very much in the dark and practice a lot of things that the bible doesn't endorse.
The main point I'm making is I don't think any of the churches have a 100% perfect understanding of the bible. Also not 100% of the congregations of any religion are filled with the "sheep" of Christ. JW's can also belong to Christ and those ones decide to do what's right according to Christ. As an example, my Grandfather who was an elder and annointed used to suggest to JW women that were beaten by husbands to leave for their own welfare. This was in the day when society turned a blind eye to domestic abuse. My Grandfather clearly had the spirit of Christ in him. Other elders were telling the women it was their wifely duty to stick with their abusive husbands. The sheep who belong to Christ are full of his love and spirit and that's what guides their attitude, thoughts and behaviour.
J. M. A follower of Christ can meet other followers everywhere. I even talk to several on the phone at a time. Several of us get together and talk for hours at a time. Its fun! With the internet, you dont even have to be in the same town to get together.
You are amazing at this, one of the best phone calls and reasoning I’ve heard you do. You are changing lives, I just know it. One thing that should be omitted from your dialogue is when you say “I won’t tell anybody” because you will when you post your video. You are coercing some people to confide in you, and it’s too bad we have to record them without their knowledge, but I do think it’s’ necessary to do it anyway. Just those words maybe leave out. Thanks for all your hard work and research! I’ve learned so much from you and I was raised in it!
Thanks for the comments and feedback, Lynn! Good suggestion about not saying i won't tell anyone, when i might post the conversation. Although, i try to keep them pretty anonymous. I guess where i'm coming from in saying that, is i have no idea who their JW contacts in the circles are, etc. But your point is well taken! God bless you.
Very nice so amazing. This is so espousing more to there light I finally see there lies. They do claim to be prophet time after time. Then they claim not WOW
You really have a lock on the language of the JW. I would say you have a clear talent for being surgical in getting way deep into the doctrinal analysis. Much of it goes over their heads, but some real subversive thoughts are getting into their heads, to bloom later one hopes. Great work you do. I was born and raised a JW and I dont think I could do what you do.
Great reasoning. You were kind and friendly in your presentation of a good number of very clear facts that should lead any thinking person to question the claims of Watchtower Org. I hope that gentleman considered what you told him - sounded like he had genuine concern for truth.
I feel sorry for that man he's in the same predicament as my dad. Lol I'm glad I woke up. You seem like a very smart cookie I wish I had your knowledge to wake my dad up.
Watchtower says they are Jehovah. THEY just can't sell that to everyone. MEN have no power to remove God from anyone. What if Jesus forgave them, and They tell the disfellowshipped person that God will not listen to their prayers until They come back! Wow! What a dangerous thing to do, putting ones authority ahead of God himself!!!!! They are actually being blasphemous doing so, and then perpetuating another lie by saying you are the one that has left God. That is a stupid presumption to put on anyone.
I’m sure that guy needed to go to the E.R. after THAT phone call! Oh my goodness gracious. You were slicing and dicing that guy with the Sword of the Spirit...he was reduced to sounding so defeated. Awesome job of reproving and rebuking him in a loving way! Wow 😲!! Romans 15:13
They truly use to teach that the pope was Michael the archangel?? I wish i woulda known that & I wouldnt have let my aunt talk me into having a study! And WHAT on earth is " provisionally true"??!
Watchtower 1972 April 1 p.197 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them' This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record.
c rhynehardt - I enjoy reading your comments because you always provide detail research..I will try to share this with my family members.. It's tough but as long as I keep using the WT literature, I'm thinking you know, maybe they might "wake up" one day! Thanks for contributions to the community!! 💯
I left 13 yrs ago, and so far have not been df'd and those elders have no power over my life and they are the last ones I would go to. I will go straight to the source the bible and Jesus, he is the one who decides whether I live or die, not the borg! Good call, but they have that circular reasoning... they should be called a record player.
They never really answer that question, do they?! They just cannot separate the two. To them leaving the org IS leaving God!! It’s a huge assumption to make, and frankly quite rude, in my opinion. Not everyone leaving them stops believing or worshipping God. I was recently left their brochure “Return to Jehovah” and I did read it the other day. It says just the things I’ve mentioned above. They’re basically saying that Jehovah is the WTBTS!! It’s ridiculous!!! Great call though, u gave him a lot to think about
You completely demolished this guy. God bless you Bridget!! I notice that the ALL use the “the light keeps getting brighter and brighter....” thing to cover for their false prophecies and teachings...just like a good cult zombie would do. They really play stupid. I can tell that the light getting brighter thing comes directly from the top as a cult doctrine and they tell them to use that in case someone brings up past errors.
What is a serious sin? All sin is serious before God. Hey Christine always good to hear you. Sounds like he is saying some sins are worse then others all the same but thank God Jesus Christ died for them all! God bless!!!!
oh no, that IS sad. We have a very active FB group where you can meet others with family members still in , or that have joined the WT, etc, and how they deal with it, and try to help them. It's called "Help Jehovahs Witnesses" God bless you.
This guy was great!! He knew just what to say to certain things. And when you used the scripture about Satan being an angel of light first!! He wanted to keep talking and working on your question. He didn't run away from it like most do!!
JWs cannot be convinced for two reasons- 1. The governing body is guided by God and therefore worthy of our trust. 2. The light gets brighter so anything that was wrong can be explained away. So sad.
BTW overlapping generation is not even brought up in any recent talks and conventions. And he keeps saying people are free to leave when everyone knows that isn't without consequences
Sin is sin ...we sin everyday I'm an ex jw dissociated 20 years ago... They allow small sins but they dont allow what they call serious sin . So if Jesus died for our sins to give us everlasting life ( having said that he bore all of our sin at one time when he was crucified) So when you think about it..they have become legalistic ...like we have to follow laws of the organization,cuz if we don't and leave...they say we had left Jehovah . Which is not true...I still have our heavenly father Jehovah, but now I enjoy the free gift He gave us by his abundance grace through Jesus and when I chose to accept Jesus in my heart and asked for forgivenes and made Him my Lord and Savior....His Holy Spirit is what moves me and continues to make me a New creation in Christ. For 20 years and more actually. I gave my life to him when I got invited to go with a friend to her Baptist church for a short period of time and during that time I got baptized. I was about 11 then.So Even though I didn't get raised in church or given any teaching from my parents to be Christian ...Ive had the Holy Spirit guiding me to Thisi day!! After buying into the jws. I got baptized after my first studying for three years..i got baptiized in 1987and the whole whole time i felt condemed and not good enough. So now , as you mentioned on one of your calls ,about Satan appearing as an angel of light...i believe your spot on...cuz when I first started studying. It was out of the book"You can live in a paradise earth forever" That sounded so exciting for me because I was depressed and trying to find the purpose of life , I'm a survivor of child abuse from my own dad who actually kidnapped us from my mother who had custodial rights when they divorced when I was just five. My dad raped us.beat is verbal and emotionally abused us . So that was really exciting to me and I started study the day. And looking back just recently ... The reason I got fooled by all that is that very thing of their literature. I pray in time many more will wake up...and I trust many more will in time.I am 61 and stilll waking up with more.... I just found your website last week Thanks for planting good seeds...😊
All you do is say negative things about ppl, yet you have no evidence and your English is very poor!!!! How is the girl as you say in your poor English, " light of SATÁN ", please explain yourself
bridget, you are absolutely OBSESSED with Jehovah's Witnesses! That is exactly why you must keep us and our activities in front of you, and you simply can NOT and WILL NOT leave us alone! You L O V E us!! You do everything you possibly can to bring attention to us! WOW! That takes some real energy! Thanks for the advertisements! This keeps JEHOVAH'S name in front of the people at all times, and we certainly do APPRECIATE that! LOL So, thank you for going to all this trouble just to HELP keep The true name of God, JEHOVAH in the public's eye. This is more advertisement for Him, and His Kingdom!! Good job bridget!!
He sounds brain dead, I was speaking to a retired pioneer that told me Jehovah always had an earthly organization, I never heard that before, is thus new light? And if so, why do we need 1914 or 1919 plus Beth serum ?!!
yes. -- There are some occasions like this where i wonder if they are on the way out. i've even asked a few if they were of the "conscious class", what they used to call it before PIMO.
As time passes you are being illuminated by the Good side of the force, the force that is YAHWHEYAH, is a balance, your capacity is expanding inside your Soul to combat the disbalance of the Eternal light of The One, i am of Jewish faith waiting for a divorce from A Goyin, whos a jw. But you must try not too sort of make fun of these jws on the phone because he or she or they are victims of a brain washing cult that utilises the dark side of the One, these individuals cannot see your rationalising about the One thing that will eventually take down theyr Org, that is this The truth is not variable, there is not refinement or adjusting the truth. Adjustment or redifining the Once to be the truth is to admit that your interpretation of the bible d and new is being guided by mainly guesses, Rabis have spent years upon yeras to decipher the Old tetasment, and yet they are still learning, but they dont clame that a new light or interpreation newly derived by great Zadiks of the bible as to be the exact commeand or absolute infallible meaning of a passage of the bible.
So we should be forced to worship a God that does believe that rape is a holy act....I really only worship the Creator of all that does not do those things....
This guy sounds just like the man that witness for Jesus talked to listen to her video I really think it’s the same guy he knows what’s going on just to afraid to admit it
4:00 "They would only be shunned if they committed some serious sin."
LIST OF SERIOUS SINS IN THE WTBTS:
1. Changing your membership to a Bible believing non-JW congregation.
2. Refusing to believe that Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 and publicly voicing that position throughout the congregation.
3. Publicly telling fellow members that they are biblically free to partake in the bread & wine based off of forgiveness of sins in Christ and not based on whether or not they feel that their destination is heavenly or earthly.
4. Being an elder or deacon and telling baptism candidates that they don't have to answer over 50 questions before being baptized such as: What is God's purpose for the earth? What is the human soul? Can it die? By what means will God destroy the wicked? Why do people die? What is God's law concerning blood? How many from among mankind will be in heaven with Christ? What will they do there?
4. Register at a conservative Bible College to pursue a Master's in Theology & Biblical Studies.
formeyousee it's actually about120 questions. I sometimes wonder if the Ethiopian eunuch or Cornelius had to do that. Oh wait they didn't
radiomanze1 look a body of water what prevents me from getting baptised? Um, 120 questions, three meetings with elders, studying two books, reaching various titles such as becoming an unbaptized publisher which also requires questions and at least one meeting with elders hmm... What else? Basically it's pretty complicated stuff. You can't just get baptised because you believe Jesus died for your sins and was raised up like the Bible says. Also you need to get baptised into a spirit directed organization not in the name of the father son and holy spirit like the Bible says.
Someones Wife LOL
how sad but true
As I’ve said before it’s 144,000 rules or else the boot
formeyousee u
“Do you look at other sources besides JW.ORG? I won’t tell anybody .” LMAO Bridget you play too much!! Too funny
I seriously cant believe this guy was so nice and patient, as he suffered through one of the most full on truth pummeling's I have ever heard you give. Wow!!!
Another good phone call. Excellent!
That was so great. I was so glad when you called him out on his Moses analogy, he started backpedaling real quick!
Excellent effective approach! I like that you pose a question and stick to it--even being able to weave in organization history and ARC! He never feels ATTACKED and OVERWHELMED because you don't use your whole arsenal at once. He felt comfortable enough to LISTEN and TRY to respond. The more you ASK and don't TELL, the more he had to THINK. I doubt he'll hit up JWFacts today, but it's in his head for sure! The end of the call was well-timed. I think he wanted to keep going with the conversation!
You are so fantastic !!! Love your style. You get them right on the red spot !! That's the right subject to talk to them about !
Awake! 6/8/1986, p. 9 "God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God ... Jehovah's Witnesses."
Remember: Those who claim to be God's spokesman or his prophet are tested by Deuteronomy 18:20-22, and the requirement for such ones is infallibility: no errors allowed, or else anyone making such a claim is to be disregarded and judged as a false prophet.
And , The Watchtower is not of the WHIMS of Men, but of God! So, this HAS to be coming from the Ever-Changing, Ever lying POS God!
I love how you challenged him by telling him, "you're smart enough to fact check for yourself". They are all smart enough, but most are not willing to even look.
They aren’t ‘all smart’ either🤣
Omg you're the best, I listen every week. Your recordings have been very beneficial to me, thank you for taking the time.
Bridget, when you repeat back certain ridiculous explanations they say, like at 12:13 it cracks me up so much.
I know it can sound kind of sarcastic, but i hope that an outsider repeating it back, with questioning, or even shock, might plant a seed.
@@bridgetazaz I love it
He's avoiding the question. How is leaving comiting gross sin.
"You're smart enough to know whether they're real or bogus" - great stuff.
ps. His voice is sexy as hell. An unlucky born-in, a misled cowboy w/ a heart of gold.
I loved that too: "You're smart enough to know whether they're real or bogus."
His voice was really sexy
I stopped going to Kingdom Hall; and now my faith was never stronger. Thanks Bridget; I didn't know WT pray to Jesus until 1950-Wow!
Same here. Had to throw out NWT tough, that one is faulty
Where can I find that info?
Book salvation page 151 written by Rutherford 1939
Another day in the life of Bridget the sower, out sowing seeds ...
Good job!
Bowrudder,...Perhaps the word you meant to use is ...'Sower'...not 'Sewer'...which has a totally different meaning...I , certainly, would not like to classify Bridget as 'sewing' seeds in the 'Gutter'...Besides, 'Sewing' is a craft very useful in domestic settings and can and does save money as well..No insult intended to you or to Bridget..Kind Regards, Arnold.(UK).
I thought the verb was sew, not sow. Thanks!
Fantastic work, Christene those seeds may produce
COME BACK TO JEHOVAH = come back to meetings, GET ACTIVATED = go door to door. How is it that they believe the only way you can have God's love is through them? Oh that's right "THE GOVERNING BODY"=Jesus Christ. Two things they said that were absolutely true. 1 Read your Bible daily. 2 If you read it on your own and pray on your own, you will become and APOSTATE!= born again Christian. Pray for them, they live in a lot of needless pain. Peace
“Erm, I’m not familiar with that expression, I’ve seen it in print though!” Helloooooooooo, you’re familiar with it then, mate!! Lmao 😂
Maria Cottingham
That😂was😂sad😂
Great Job Bridget!
You really didn't let him get away with that Moses reference. Good for you!
The sheep can't believe the org is corrupt.
Matt 7:15
Acts 20:29
He started out so grumpy, I thot he'd be a dud. But he's actually holding on to his salvation in his mind & heart which is admirable.
He's got a kind voice & meek manner.
So great to call them out on their false analogies.
Satan can only replicate, twist or fake you out, he can't create as he is evil. All he can do is use confusion & haziness to his advantage. Hiding in plain sight. Certain laws of truth are set which he must work within. And he has grown up intertwined with the good until the threshing.
You sowed a lot of seeds, you never know...........what I like about him, is that he listened, not like the others who just cut you off when they don't like what you say.
yeah, he was likable for sure.
I'm suprised how many will tell you how many years they've been a witness like that validates something for them. Oh it must be the truth cos I've believed it all my life ...
I’m weak! 😂🤣😅 You are actually ”unwitnessing” to them & they don’t even know it. You rock Bridget!!! All he can say is “ Jehovah is the source of life” in a robotic 🤖 tone. I’m rotfl 😆 😂 Thank you 🙏🏽
your awesome!!!! would love to meet yuou!!!
This guy hung right in there and didn't call you an apostate and hang up! When he first answered the phone and I heard his voice, I thought this guy won't last long. That being said, you may have gotten through to him. This one might, just might do some research. He actually seemed to listen. Not very many would have let you get that far. I hope your discussion with him, really makes him think.
I never stopped praying to Jehovah long after I left and I am opening my heart to Jesus even more . I didn't leave God, I left a religion. When it comes down to it I have a choice to believe according to my conscience, because if something I'm being told isn't right that doesn't mean I'm leaving God. I had thought about going back many times but when it came down to certain doctrine that I can no longer with an honest conscience, go door to door and teach since I'd be required too, I have decided amongst many other things I've learned, I will not be doing that. I have no desire to do anything wrong. The biggest thing I have a problem with is my sister shunning me. Religion should not damage families. If they want to stop mixing in company with serious wrongdoers I think undoubtedly that should be the pedophiles their two Wittness rule has protected.
Yes there are good hearted people in the faith that are not aware of such cover ups. I'm surprised he stuck it out with you. I have to give him kudos for that. Hood job. I hope he someday researches the facts. Today there are so many religions who claim they have the true doctrine of God and teach that horrible things will happen if we leave. Saying that one is leaving God is a hurtful tactic. If someone is leaving the LDS, they are leaving God, if someone leaves the Moonies, they are leaving God leave the Catholic church and they are told they are going to Hell for leaving God. Do they think it makes sense to research other religions to avoid being lead wrong? YES THEY DO BUT NOT THEIRS. When it comes down to it, our lives shouldn't depend on knowing wether the end is coming or wether there is a hell . If we are Gods children he's not going to expect us to have all the answers but I believe we should be good people and not hurt others. We learn from making mistakes sure but unless we are violating someone's human rights which involves theft, murder , violence and rape of innocent victims, minor sins should not have to endure the harsh punishment of silent treatment. Especially toward family such as our children. Person's need professional help. There are articles about silent treatment which is the same as shunning. It's ABUSE...plain and simple.
that's so sad your sister is shunning you. -- THat's so true, it's such a lie that we have to belong to some group or organization to have a relationship with God, when the Bible clearly tells us it's only through faith in Christ. God bless you, Random!
I wish to be prepare to speak like you, very well done congratulations.
Love this last round of phonecalls. Excellent job! No doubt you got a few gray cells thinking! Xxx
Next time I see a JW, I'm going to ask them that too. I want to know how leaving an Organization could possibly be leaving God. Thanks for asking that!!!
Denise Hedberg66 I left the JW's and my elder dad specifically asked me if I still believed in God. I think they wonder how you can still worship God if you are not gathering together with other Christians to do so.
J. M. When a person decides to follow Christ instead of men, Jesus makes it easy for us to know others that know Jesus. Seeing as we are all a part of His body!! We dont need to wear name tags or carry a bag full of men's books! We only need God's word and faith!
Ones that follow Jesus have NO reason to lie. Yet JW's think lying is ok if they are doing it to protect the Org. Then they just call it Theocratic Warfare and it's ok??? Jesus needs no lies to protect Him!! Sheep just need the Shepherd and all other things He gives us! We have no fear because our Shepherd protects US!!
Watch the video on YT called ,"Is it true that sheep only listen to their shepherd". Then you will see!
Denise Hedberg66 Right but the sheep still meet in churches and kingdom halls because Jesus told them to associate together. I would think most Christians wonder if someone really worships God if they are like a lone wolf and don't get together with others who believe in Christ and God. However in those Churches and Halls I am sure not all attendees are "sheep" that belong to Christ. I also think that every Christian faith can't interpret the scriptures perfectly. Some understand better than others. I think the Catholic faith for example is very much in the dark and practice a lot of things that the bible doesn't endorse.
The main point I'm making is I don't think any of the churches have a 100% perfect understanding of the bible. Also not 100% of the congregations of any religion are filled with the "sheep" of Christ. JW's can also belong to Christ and those ones decide to do what's right according to Christ. As an example, my Grandfather who was an elder and annointed used to suggest to JW women that were beaten by husbands to leave for their own welfare. This was in the day when society turned a blind eye to domestic abuse. My Grandfather clearly had the spirit of Christ in him. Other elders were telling the women it was their wifely duty to stick with their abusive husbands. The sheep who belong to Christ are full of his love and spirit and that's what guides their attitude, thoughts and behaviour.
J. M. A follower of Christ can meet other followers everywhere. I even talk to several on the phone at a time. Several of us get together and talk for hours at a time. Its fun! With the internet, you dont even have to be in the same town to get together.
I love these
Hahaha!!! Do you look at any other sources,? I mean I won't tell anybody. Good one Briget.
i don't know if there's anything one can say to help them to look at other sources. Let me know if you have any more ideas. :)
You are amazing at this, one of the best phone calls and reasoning I’ve heard you do. You are changing lives, I just know it. One thing that should be omitted from your dialogue is when you say “I won’t tell anybody” because you will when you post your video. You are coercing some people to confide in you, and it’s too bad we have to record them without their knowledge, but I do think it’s’ necessary to do it anyway. Just those words maybe leave out. Thanks for all your hard work and research! I’ve learned so much from you and I was raised in it!
Thanks for the comments and feedback, Lynn! Good suggestion about not saying i won't tell anyone, when i might post the conversation. Although, i try to keep them pretty anonymous. I guess where i'm coming from in saying that, is i have no idea who their JW contacts in the circles are, etc. But your point is well taken! God bless you.
GOD NEVER CHANGES!!!!!!!!
Very nice so amazing. This is so espousing more to there light I finally see there lies. They do claim to be prophet time after time. Then they claim not WOW
You really have a lock on the language of the JW. I would say you have a clear talent for being surgical in getting way deep into the doctrinal analysis. Much of it goes over their heads, but some real subversive thoughts are getting into their heads, to bloom later one hopes. Great work you do. I was born and raised a JW and I dont think I could do what you do.
hi zen, thank you for the kind and encouraging words.
Great reasoning. You were kind and friendly in your presentation of a good number of very clear facts that should lead any thinking person to question the claims of Watchtower Org. I hope that gentleman considered what you told him - sounded like he had genuine concern for truth.
Bridget from AZ: You are so very brave.
I feel sorry for that man he's in the same predicament as my dad. Lol I'm glad I woke up. You seem like a very smart cookie I wish I had your knowledge to wake my dad up.
Sounds like He is on youtube; the way He said that.
yeah, i did wonder about that.
Watchtower says they are Jehovah. THEY just can't sell that to everyone. MEN have no power to remove God from anyone. What if Jesus forgave them, and They tell the disfellowshipped person that God will not listen to their prayers until They come back! Wow! What a dangerous thing to do, putting ones authority ahead of God himself!!!!! They are actually being blasphemous doing so, and then perpetuating another lie by saying you are the one that has left God. That is a stupid presumption to put on anyone.
Tony Morris is living up to the old saying, Whiskey bent and Hell bound.
Amazing Contrast !!
Truth or Fiction !!
Love or Obligation !!
Always hear the joy in you Christine
Thanks for that, many don't have it. 🙏
Good work
You also get shund if you disasociate.
I’m sure that guy needed to go to the E.R. after THAT phone call! Oh my goodness gracious. You were slicing and dicing that guy with the Sword of the Spirit...he was reduced to sounding so defeated. Awesome job of reproving and rebuking him in a loving way! Wow 😲!! Romans 15:13
A good question you can ask is “Can someone leave the Watchtower but not leave God (Jehovah)?
What wonderful phrasing
Lmboooo she said if it’s covered up that’s probably why you don’t know about it lol I’m dead
They truly use to teach that the pope was Michael the archangel?? I wish i woulda known that & I wouldnt have let my aunt talk me into having a study! And WHAT on earth is " provisionally true"??!
Watchtower 1972 April 1 p.197 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'
This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record.
c rhynehardt - I enjoy reading your comments because you always provide detail research..I will try to share this with my family members.. It's tough but as long as I keep using the WT literature, I'm thinking you know, maybe they might "wake up" one day!
Thanks for contributions to the community!! 💯
Southern Bawse Lady I’m trying to wake up my family but it’s a lost cause. Best of luck to you.
Junie B. ----- dont give up junie b. GOD is mighty powerful
I left 13 yrs ago, and so far have not been df'd and those elders have no power over my life and they are the last ones I would go to. I will go straight to the source the bible and Jesus, he is the one who decides whether I live or die, not the borg! Good call, but they have that circular reasoning... they should be called a record player.
They never really answer that question, do they?! They just cannot separate the two. To them leaving the org IS leaving God!! It’s a huge assumption to make, and frankly quite rude, in my opinion. Not everyone leaving them stops believing or worshipping God.
I was recently left their brochure “Return to Jehovah” and I did read it the other day. It says just the things I’ve mentioned above.
They’re basically saying that Jehovah is the WTBTS!! It’s ridiculous!!!
Great call though, u gave him a lot to think about
You completely demolished this guy. God bless you Bridget!! I notice that the ALL use the “the light keeps getting brighter and brighter....” thing to cover for their false prophecies and teachings...just like a good cult zombie would do. They really play stupid. I can tell that the light getting brighter thing comes directly from the top as a cult doctrine and they tell them to use that in case someone brings up past errors.
The witnesses need .to learn phone etiquette when answering the phone.
He doesnt know what provisionally means. So sad.
What is a serious sin? All sin is serious before God. Hey Christine always good to hear you. Sounds like he is saying some sins are worse then others all the same but thank God Jesus Christ died for them all! God bless!!!!
That brother sounds like he's had too much fluoride. Your mind is too quick for him.
The runaround is unreal-
I m so sad my sister wanne go to organisation😟😟☹☹
oh no, that IS sad. We have a very active FB group where you can meet others with family members still in , or that have joined the WT, etc, and how they deal with it, and try to help them. It's called "Help Jehovahs Witnesses" God bless you.
This guy was great!! He knew just what to say to certain things. And when you used the scripture about Satan being an angel of light first!! He wanted to keep talking and working on your question. He didn't run away from it like most do!!
Yes, some still like to have a good go 'round! :)
It appears you did approach it that way as I listened to the rest of the conversation.
Dear one I enjoy your videos and I learn 🎓 📕 so much and makes me think that specific this JW is the worst organization.
I think there is a lot that outsiders usually don't know about, they present such a lovely face of happiness and family harmony to the public, etc.
At least he was relatively nice and didn't run off or hang up.
JWs cannot be convinced for two reasons- 1. The governing body is guided by God and therefore worthy of our trust. 2. The light gets brighter so anything that was wrong can be explained away.
So sad.
Irony is lost on him.
Why do they always ask where you are from?? What difference does it make?
Provisional truth? It was interesting to listen to him but was far from logical. He sounds a bit like John Wayne.
RiverDanube Did you know John Wayne was a freemason.Just saying!!
HEAVY INDOCTRINATION! Wow i cant believe that i thought a similar way. Smh
Please, someone who translate your videos to spanish.
Moses were an inspired man of God. JW Governing Body are not inspired men. They're mere men.
BTW
overlapping generation is not even brought up in any recent talks and conventions. And he keeps saying people are free to leave when everyone knows that isn't without consequences
wow, are they already trying to forget about the "overlapping generation" debacle?
bridget fromAZ Apparently
Haven't heard a word about it over the past 3 years
Great reasoning!
God said He is married to the back slider
Sin is sin ...we sin everyday
I'm an ex jw dissociated
20 years ago...
They allow small sins but they dont allow what they call serious sin .
So if Jesus died for our sins to give us everlasting life ( having said that he bore all of our sin at one time when he was crucified)
So when you think about it..they have become legalistic ...like we have to follow laws of the organization,cuz if we don't and leave...they say we had left Jehovah .
Which is not true...I still have our heavenly father Jehovah, but now I enjoy the free gift He gave us by his abundance grace through Jesus and when I chose to accept Jesus in my heart and asked for forgivenes and made Him my Lord and Savior....His Holy Spirit is what moves me and continues to make me a New creation in Christ.
For 20 years and more actually. I gave my life to him when I got invited to go with a friend to her Baptist church for a short period of time and during that time I got baptized. I was about 11 then.So Even though I didn't get raised in church or given any teaching from my parents to be Christian ...Ive had the Holy Spirit guiding me to Thisi day!!
After buying into the jws. I got baptized after my first studying for three years..i got baptiized in 1987and the whole whole time i felt condemed and not good enough.
So now , as you mentioned on one of your calls ,about Satan appearing as an angel of light...i believe your spot on...cuz when I first started studying. It was out of the book"You can live in a paradise earth forever" That sounded so exciting for me because I was depressed and trying to find the purpose of life , I'm a survivor of child abuse from my own dad who actually kidnapped us from my mother who had custodial rights when they divorced when I was just five. My dad raped us.beat is verbal and emotionally abused us .
So that was really exciting to me and I started study the day.
And looking back just recently ...
The reason I got fooled by all that is that very thing of their literature.
I pray in time many more will wake up...and I trust many more will in time.I am 61 and stilll waking up with more....
I just found your website last week
Thanks for planting good seeds...😊
Bridget, we should talk.
My email is Dander8132@aol.com. I'd love to chat sometime, God bless!
This girl is light of SATÁN N ON THE OTHER SIDE ,THE MAN IS JEHOVÁ LIGHT
well, thanks for letting me know your thoughts! God bless you.
All you do is say negative things about ppl, yet you have no evidence and your English is very poor!!!! How is the girl as you say in your poor English, " light of SATÁN ", please explain yourself
bridget, you are absolutely OBSESSED with Jehovah's Witnesses! That is exactly why you must keep us and our activities in front of you, and you simply can NOT and WILL NOT leave us alone! You L O V E us!! You do everything you possibly can to bring attention to us! WOW! That takes some real energy! Thanks for the advertisements! This keeps JEHOVAH'S name in front of the people at all times, and we certainly do APPRECIATE that! LOL So, thank you for going to all this trouble just to HELP keep The true name of God, JEHOVAH in the public's eye. This is more advertisement for Him, and His Kingdom!! Good job bridget!!
The true name of God is YAHWEH .
He sounds brain dead, I was speaking to a retired pioneer that told me Jehovah always had an earthly organization, I never heard that before, is thus new light? And if so, why do we need 1914 or 1919 plus Beth serum ?!!
This man seems like he's a PIMO he's nearly out himself. He's kinda 50% on your side here.
He sounds kinda defeated.
yes. -- There are some occasions like this where i wonder if they are on the way out. i've even asked a few if they were of the "conscious class", what they used to call it before PIMO.
I was thinking the same thing. He’s probably afraid to lose his family & friends
He was nice 👍
The only person anyone needs to confess a moral sin to is the one they OWE it to and it’s certainly not an organization who will divide their home
OMG jws are so freaking weird!!!!
The only prophets the JW GB are interested in is profits.😂
Rewatching sept 2024 x
Poor man. Way out of his league.
13:03 I won't tell anybody.....this my girl lollllllllll
hey girl,,your good x
2...I don't think he shoulda tried to leave my girl with one last thing..lollllll
Not believing what the Bible tells you. its believing what the GB says what the Bible says.
I think this guy is in love with you. He was desperate to keep the conversation going.😂😂😂
"Yeah, hello."
Why is it that from the very first words they all sound like they are in a cult, phone call after phone call?
As time passes you are being illuminated by the Good side of the force, the force that is YAHWHEYAH, is a balance, your capacity is expanding inside your Soul to combat the disbalance of the Eternal light of The One, i am of Jewish faith waiting for a divorce from A Goyin, whos a jw. But you must try not too sort of make fun of these jws on the phone because he or she or they are victims of a brain washing cult that utilises the dark side of the One, these individuals cannot see your rationalising about the One thing that will eventually take down theyr Org, that is this The truth is not variable, there is not refinement or adjusting the truth. Adjustment or redifining the Once to be the truth is to admit that your interpretation of the bible d and new is being guided by mainly guesses, Rabis have spent years upon yeras to decipher the Old tetasment, and yet they are still learning, but they dont clame that a new light or interpreation newly derived by great Zadiks of the bible as to be the exact commeand or absolute infallible meaning of a passage of the bible.
So we should be forced to worship a God that does believe that rape is a holy act....I really only worship the Creator of all that does not do those things....
😂Apostates can't get their way. Lol
But he lied immediately!! 😱😑😑😑
IF AGE IS A FACTOR; WHY BAPTIZE KIDS? DISCIPLES NEVER BAPTIZED KIDS.
that guy really is asleep ..he sounds half asleep these jws are so complacent and un educated
It’s like taking to a wall
The word "imperfect " makes me cringe now
This guy sounds just like the man that witness for Jesus talked to listen to her video I really think it’s the same guy he knows what’s going on just to afraid to admit it