Don’t be discouraged by the comments Where people can hide behind the anonymity and make super nasty comments They would never say anything like that to your face Agreeing to disagree should be done with respectful choice of words We are Muslims and we represent our beliefs with dignity and honor
Getting personal and attacking the character of a person when you are in disagreement is not something we do The prophet ( peace be upon him ) has taught us better
There is NO valid disagreement on this issue, he is a LIAR upon Allah and His messenger and a disgrace and he is lying about the fiqh of imaam Malik too...
There is a nuance whereupon the Hanafi fiqh ruling is niqaab is waajib and the Maliki ruling is that it is fardh. The outcome is the same; it has to be worn by ALL young women in public spaces and around non mahram men and unbelieving women and even faasiq women, there is basically no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences are established; the usool ul-fiqh is where the difference is and this i NOT a matter for the general layman to be concerned about at all in the slightest!
@@Mahmood42978 This is the KNOWN fiqhi mas'ala of the Hanafi school from abu Haneefah and ALL of the Hanafi `ulamaa upon the way of the ahl us-sunnah. The fact you even question this shows your level of lack of knowledge! Instead of taking your deen from liars, modernists, feminists and libertines of the 21st century CE, actually take your deen from the authentic scholars of the ahl us-sunnah who passed away before us and only follow the living in that which they took from the dead, as the living will change their views and you may follow them in bias and partisanship and become misguided together with them when they vere from the haqq.. it is dangerous to follow the living. Learn from them face to face the traditional way but reject everything from them in which they differ with those who came before us!!! For your information, abu Haneefah himself even stated it is HARAAM for a muslim woman to remove her niqaab in front of kaafirah women and even in front of faasiqah muslimahs too.. he would NEVER have said it is "HARAAM" to remove the niqaab in fron of anybody whatsoever if it was not at the very least a waajibat! The other 3 schools hold the niqaab to be fardh, but there is no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences establish the outcome! The difference exists in the USOOL and not in the practicality! Go away, stop bothering me and learn your deen!
@@Mahmood42978 This is the KNOWN fiqhi mas'ala of the Hanafi school from abu Haneefah and ALL of the Hanafi `ulamaa upon the way of the ahl us-sunnah. The fact you even question this shows your level of lack of knowledge! Instead of taking your deen from liars, modernists, feminists and libertines of the 21st century CE, actually take your deen from the authentic scholars of the ahl us-sunnah who passed away before us and only follow the living in that which they took from the dead, as the living will change their views and you may follow them in bias and partisanship and become misguided together with them when they vere from the haqq.. it is dangerous to follow the living. Learn from them face to face the traditional way but reject everything from them in which they differ with those who came before us!!! For your information, abu Haneefah himself even stated it is HARAAM for a muslim woman to remove her niqaab in front of kaafirah women and even in front of faasiqah muslimahs too.. he would NEVER have said it is "HARAAM" to remove the niqaab in fron of anybody whatsoever if it was not at the very least a waajibat! The other 3 schools hold the niqaab to be fardh, but there is no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences establish the outcome! The difference exists in the USOOL and not in the practicality! Go away, stop bothering me and learn your deen!
I beg to differ, this certainly isn't one the the reasons. The benefits of the sun outweigh any harm. The pharmaceutical industry will, of course, have you think otherwise.
@@akhaliquk it depends, in general if you live in a hot country, depending on your skin colour, you need a certain amount of sunlight a day, it is possible for women who wear niqab to not wear niqab in spaces with no men(in certain contries this is very difficult but in certain countries this is much easier). also in the past people would cover their hair and face as protection in insane sunlight and heat, so in general its good to get sun but too much sunlight exposure isn't good and clothing helps protect us from that
This is utter folklore and nothing in practical and scientific evidence supports it. Ageing is a process that is sped up by lifestyle and diet choices, gluttony and poor decisions. The sun is of the best remedies to reverse ageing, providing the physiological environment is meritous. People with less melanin can still increase their melanin dramatically and not be harmed, if done systematically and year around.
When Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies.” [al-Ahzab 33:59], he covered his face, leaving only one eye showing.
يقول الشيخ الدردير: “(و) هي [يعني: العورة] من حرة (مع) رجل (أجنبي) مسلم (غير الوجه والكفين) من جميع جسدها، حتى قصتها، وإن لم يحصل التلذُّذ. وأمَّا مع أجنبي كافر: فجميع جسدها حتى الوجه والكفين، هذا بالنسبة للرؤية، وكذا الصلاة”([8]).
It also creates more equality for women and protection and privacy. It depends on the individual how they treat others. Those that treat others either bad or good, there's still a degree of added protection.
Hazrat Ayesha RA has narrated that she used to cover her face in her journey of hajj when other caravans would go by.....so it is mandatory for women to cover face with a cloth that does not touch her face in hanafi madhab
Please clariy this: "The Niqab According to the Maliki Madhab Shaykh JJ Abdus Shakur Brooks The Mashhur (relied-upon view) in the Madhab of Imam Malik, is that the wearing of Niqab is Mustahhab (recommended). If, however, the women are living in a time of Fitnah, the wearing of Niqab takes the ruling of Wajib (obligatory): Some people tend to claim the Maliki school says that “Niqab” is makruh giving the false impression that it means “covering the face is makruh” in the Maliki School when that is not the case AT ALL. In fact Maliki’s consider niqab to specially mean “veiling the face by pulling a cloth from the bottom of the face up to the nose or under the eyelids”. THE REASON that this is “makruh” is because it contradicts the Sunnah manner of veiling the face (as it comes in 2 narrations in Muwatta) namely that it should be a cloth that is drapped from the top of the head down over the face because that is the Sunnah of the women of the Prophet(saw). It shouldn’t be something “pulled up” over the face is the specific point of what is disliked. Those who don’t study the crux of the matter fail to understand the difference between the Maliki usage of the term Niqāb (wearing a niqab) and Satr-Wajh (literally: veiling the face). Wearing a niqāb is makruh for the reason I mentioned about and in fact considered a bid’ah makruh by Maliki’s because it contradicts the aforementioned Sunnah manner of veiling the face. As for veiling the face (satr-wajh) classical Malikis do not differ that it is: (1) obligatory when there is fitnah (2) mustahabb when there is no fitnah (3) that it is obligatory to veil in front of a non-Muslim male (whether or not they consider the hands and face awrah or not). The failure for some who may have studied the Maliki school to understand the issue is a result of not understanding or paying attention to the linguistic nuance of the term niqāb, in spite of the fact that most authors define it clearly! The difference between the two is obvious because in Maliki commentaries like Al-Sharh al-Kabir where it states that Niqāb is disliked, only two or three pages later it states that Veiling the face (Satr Wajh) is obligatory or mustahabb."
The prophet can be impressed by even if he can’t see their faces because Eyes: Often considered the windows to the soul, eyes can convey a wealth of emotions and beauty. Expressive eyes can captivate and convey personality, even when the rest of the face is covered. Tone and Clarity: A pleasant voice and the way someone speaks can leave a lasting impression. Content of Speech: Intelligence, humor, and kindness reflected in conversation can enhance perceived beauty.
@binthatim01 the reason for niqab being mandatory. Imagine the scenario of hajj or umrah, or in masaajid; the enemies of Islam would take advantage of this and potentially cause much damage.
No this guy is lying niqab is fard and the scholars agreed that in times were one man COULD find a woman attractive or beautiful a woman MUST cover. and the majority and the right opinion is that 33:59 orders to cover the face unconditionally and some state that there is a ijma
He is trying to save himself. ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) who said: “We were with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in ihram, and when men passed by us, we would lower the Khimar on our heads over our faces, and when they moved on we would lift it again.”
May I know what is the ruling of a person who says that wearing it covering the head is not compulsory for women? I am aware of the differences of opinion about the obligation of very old women to cover their heads or not. What about those who say that wearing the Khimar is not compulsory but recommended or those who perform Ta'wil on this matter by saying that it was compulsory then due to the moral dilemma at that time? I have heard that Imam Ibnu Hazm had stated that the obligation for a woman to cover her head has reached Ijma', doesn't this mean anybody who knowingly rejects the obligation of covering the head becomes a Kafir? Disclaimer: I believe that all the women's body part is awrah except her face and her hands.
@@yellowmellow4753 There is a difference between saying something is not compulsory and not doing them. A person who says fasting during the month of Ramadan is not compulsory, he becomes a Kafir if he knows about the obligation but denies it. However, if he does not fast, he becomes a Fasiq, not a Kafir. The reason why I ask such a question is because of the statement by certain scholars stating that there is an Ijma' (Scholarly Consensus) about the obligation of wearing the Khimar for Muslim women who are married and pubescent. Once you reject a ruling where there is an Ijma' about it, then it has become a matter of Aqeeda.
But sheikh, i life in a non muslim country and non muslim men completely ignore me they do not care, are not interested in someone covered when all other women show their whole body. Its always the muslims that would look or comment. So i do think that non muslims are not a fitna its mostly the muslim men.
I can agree, but you have to understand non-Muslim men already get sexual gratification from other sources, they are essentially desensitized to a women and dumbed down, so they wouldn't even care if you were beautiful and half naked because their culture in general is agaisnt harrasing women and they also are already satisfied. besides that point it is upsetting we live in a time that Muslims are worse than Non-Muslims in this aspect clearly the scholars of the past couldn't fathom a time where a practising Muslim would be more harrasing of a women than a non-muslim
A Muslim lady on social media says that covering of head is not mandatory in Islam and that ruling of hijab was for the wives of prophet only. Kindly guide.
To say that HIJAB is not fard, that’s kufr because denying religious obligations that are widespread well known without any difference of opinion is kufr
Hi! The "hijab "called khimar in the origin is mandatory in Islam but there is no sanction juridically if the woman does not do it. But it mandatory. Hope that helps !
@@Iamfsaly he said it’s disliked if it goes against the customs of that culture, recommended if she feels as if people are gazing upon her and wajib if she is so beautiful she is a issue for others also wajib if it could stop others from harming her haram for her If it would cause others to harm her
With all due respect to shaykh Hassan al Kattani , but , and this is something noticed many times from him , if what is in the Maalili Madhab goes against his salafi beliefs he will swiftly alter or change the former in favour of the latter! This issue of niqaab in the Madhab is one and another even clearer example are his additions and omissions in Ibn Ashoor! To just come and take classical literature and change and add parts due to it not agreeing with your own ( and alien ) views is not academically sound at all!
If you do it with the intention of pleasing Allah or seeking its reward or fearing the punishment of not doing it, then you will be rewarded and if you leave it; something wajib, you get a sin
@@zebunissa8345In the Hanafi madhab the face of the woman is not awrah meaning does not required to be covered however in fitna it has to be. The Hanafi scholars state that we are in a general state of fitna so a non-elderly woman must cover the face front of non-mehrams. They make an exception for the elderly women. This is the relied upon opinion given to the public. There is a minority opinion of the Hanafi scholars that we cannot generally apply the ruling of fitna or that even in fitna the woman does not have to cover her face.
Don’t be discouraged
by the comments
Where people can hide behind the anonymity and make super nasty comments
They would never say anything like that to your face
Agreeing to disagree should be done with respectful choice of words
We are Muslims and we represent our beliefs with dignity and honor
Agreed 100%
I would... try me if you don't believe me inshaa'Allah... I have no respect at all for those who lie upon Allah and His messenger... panting dogs!!!!
I love the level of intellectual discussion here.
Getting personal and attacking the character of a person when you are in disagreement is not something we do
The prophet ( peace be upon him ) has taught us better
There is NO valid disagreement on this issue, he is a LIAR upon Allah and His messenger and a disgrace and he is lying about the fiqh of imaam Malik too...
There is a nuance whereupon the Hanafi fiqh ruling is niqaab is waajib and the Maliki ruling is that it is fardh. The outcome is the same; it has to be worn by ALL young women in public spaces and around non mahram men and unbelieving women and even faasiq women, there is basically no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences are established; the usool ul-fiqh is where the difference is and this i NOT a matter for the general layman to be concerned about at all in the slightest!
@@abuAbdul-Mumeet Which mushrab of Hanafi fiqh has made niqab "wajib"?
@@Mahmood42978 This is the KNOWN fiqhi mas'ala of the Hanafi school from abu Haneefah and ALL of the Hanafi `ulamaa upon the way of the ahl us-sunnah. The fact you even question this shows your level of lack of knowledge! Instead of taking your deen from liars, modernists, feminists and libertines of the 21st century CE, actually take your deen from the authentic scholars of the ahl us-sunnah who passed away before us and only follow the living in that which they took from the dead, as the living will change their views and you may follow them in bias and partisanship and become misguided together with them when they vere from the haqq.. it is dangerous to follow the living. Learn from them face to face the traditional way but reject everything from them in which they differ with those who came before us!!! For your information, abu Haneefah himself even stated it is HARAAM for a muslim woman to remove her niqaab in front of kaafirah women and even in front of faasiqah muslimahs too.. he would NEVER have said it is "HARAAM" to remove the niqaab in fron of anybody whatsoever if it was not at the very least a waajibat! The other 3 schools hold the niqaab to be fardh, but there is no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences establish the outcome! The difference exists in the USOOL and not in the practicality! Go away, stop bothering me and learn your deen!
@@Mahmood42978 This is the KNOWN fiqhi mas'ala of the Hanafi school from abu Haneefah and ALL of the Hanafi `ulamaa upon the way of the ahl us-sunnah. The fact you even question this shows your level of lack of knowledge! Instead of taking your deen from liars, modernists, feminists and libertines of the 21st century CE, actually take your deen from the authentic scholars of the ahl us-sunnah who passed away before us and only follow the living in that which they took from the dead, as the living will change their views and you may follow them in bias and partisanship and become misguided together with them when they vere from the haqq.. it is dangerous to follow the living. Learn from them face to face the traditional way but reject everything from them in which they differ with those who came before us!!! For your information, abu Haneefah himself even stated it is HARAAM for a muslim woman to remove her niqaab in front of kaafirah women and even in front of faasiqah muslimahs too.. he would NEVER have said it is "HARAAM" to remove the niqaab in fron of anybody whatsoever if it was not at the very least a waajibat! The other 3 schools hold the niqaab to be fardh, but there is no difference between waajib and fardh except how the evidences establish the outcome! The difference exists in the USOOL and not in the practicality! Go away, stop bothering me and learn your deen!
i would love him to do a maliki fiqh complete course - not many out there
Covering the face is incredibly anti aging. It protects one's beauty better than sunscreen.
I beg to differ, this certainly isn't one the the reasons. The benefits of the sun outweigh any harm. The pharmaceutical industry will, of course, have you think otherwise.
@@akhaliquk it depends, in general if you live in a hot country, depending on your skin colour, you need a certain amount of sunlight a day, it is possible for women who wear niqab to not wear niqab in spaces with no men(in certain contries this is very difficult but in certain countries this is much easier). also in the past people would cover their hair and face as protection in insane sunlight and heat, so in general its good to get sun but too much sunlight exposure isn't good and clothing helps protect us from that
But it’s also bad for vitamin d deficiency
@@Thenewenlightnment most people have vitamin d deficiency anyway and they don't wear modest clothes(where i live in uk)
This is utter folklore and nothing in practical and scientific evidence supports it. Ageing is a process that is sped up by lifestyle and diet choices, gluttony and poor decisions. The sun is of the best remedies to reverse ageing, providing the physiological environment is meritous. People with less melanin can still increase their melanin dramatically and not be harmed, if done systematically and year around.
When Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies.” [al-Ahzab 33:59], he covered his face, leaving only one eye showing.
Allah gave us two eyes hamdulilah
@@yellowmellow4753 Yes, and two legs, hair a belly and so on. Thank you for clearing that out. So they don't think the sahaaba had only one eye.
يقول الشيخ الدردير: “(و) هي [يعني: العورة] من حرة (مع) رجل (أجنبي) مسلم (غير الوجه والكفين) من جميع جسدها، حتى قصتها، وإن لم يحصل التلذُّذ. وأمَّا مع أجنبي كافر: فجميع جسدها حتى الوجه والكفين، هذا بالنسبة للرؤية، وكذا الصلاة”([8]).
It also creates more equality for women and protection and privacy. It depends on the individual how they treat others. Those that treat others either bad or good, there's still a degree of added protection.
Not equality because some women will shame women for not wearing it, and some women will shame women for wearing it
Hazrat Ayesha RA has narrated that she used to cover her face in her journey of hajj when other caravans would go by.....so it is mandatory for women to cover face with a cloth that does not touch her face in hanafi madhab
Please clariy this:
"The Niqab According to the Maliki Madhab
Shaykh JJ Abdus Shakur Brooks
The Mashhur (relied-upon view) in the Madhab of Imam Malik, is that the wearing of Niqab is Mustahhab (recommended).
If, however, the women are living in a time of Fitnah, the wearing of Niqab takes the ruling of Wajib (obligatory):
Some people tend to claim the Maliki school says that “Niqab” is makruh giving the false impression that it means “covering the face is makruh” in the Maliki School when that is not the case AT ALL.
In fact Maliki’s consider niqab to specially mean “veiling the face by pulling a cloth from the bottom of the face up to the nose or under the eyelids”.
THE REASON that this is “makruh” is because it contradicts the Sunnah manner of veiling the face (as it comes in 2 narrations in Muwatta) namely that it should be a cloth that is drapped from the top of the head down over the face because that is the Sunnah of the women of the Prophet(saw). It shouldn’t be something “pulled up” over the face is the specific point of what is disliked.
Those who don’t study the crux of the matter fail to understand the difference between the Maliki usage of the term Niqāb (wearing a niqab) and Satr-Wajh (literally: veiling the face). Wearing a niqāb is makruh for the reason I mentioned about and in fact considered a bid’ah makruh by Maliki’s because it contradicts the aforementioned Sunnah manner of veiling the face.
As for veiling the face (satr-wajh) classical Malikis do not differ that it is:
(1) obligatory when there is fitnah
(2) mustahabb when there is no fitnah
(3) that it is obligatory to veil in front of a non-Muslim male (whether or not they consider the hands and face awrah or not).
The failure for some who may have studied the Maliki school to understand the issue is a result of not understanding or paying attention to the linguistic nuance of the term niqāb, in spite of the fact that most authors define it clearly!
The difference between the two is obvious because in Maliki commentaries like Al-Sharh al-Kabir where it states that Niqāb is disliked, only two or three pages later it states that Veiling the face (Satr Wajh) is obligatory or mustahabb."
The prophet can be impressed by even if he can’t see their faces because
Eyes: Often considered the windows to the soul, eyes can convey a wealth of emotions and beauty. Expressive eyes can captivate and convey personality, even when the rest of the face is covered.
Tone and Clarity: A pleasant voice and the way someone speaks can leave a lasting impression.
Content of Speech: Intelligence, humor, and kindness reflected in conversation can enhance perceived beauty.
LIE
i am Hanafi and i do niqab..but i like your madhab also
The madhabs are a guide...
20:08 is enough for me
In what respect?
@binthatim01 the reason for niqab being mandatory. Imagine the scenario of hajj or umrah, or in masaajid; the enemies of Islam would take advantage of this and potentially cause much damage.
@@akhaliquk Yes, also no hijaab. Bevause a lot of non muslim women wear hijab and act as if they are muslims. A very profound reasoning you got there.
Jazakum Allah khair
I am Hanafi i am covering my face. Am i doing Ghulu in Deen?
No this guy is lying niqab is fard and the scholars agreed that in times were one man COULD find a woman attractive or beautiful a woman MUST cover. and the majority and the right opinion is that 33:59 orders to cover the face unconditionally and some state that there is a ijma
Asalamu Alaykum Dr Shadee, will you be uploading the new episodes to spotify or apple podcast any time soon?
He is trying to save himself.
‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) who said: “We were with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in ihram, and when men passed by us, we would lower the Khimar on our heads over our faces, and when they moved on we would lift it again.”
He talked about this. Watch the video.
@@Thenewenlightnment
I watched the video and I put a link in the text that has been removed.
Only the amateurs will get excited and refute..
How can I contact shaykh shadee please
May I know what is the ruling of a person who says that wearing it covering the head is not compulsory for women? I am aware of the differences of opinion about the obligation of very old women to cover their heads or not. What about those who say that wearing the Khimar is not compulsory but recommended or those who perform Ta'wil on this matter by saying that it was compulsory then due to the moral dilemma at that time? I have heard that Imam Ibnu Hazm had stated that the obligation for a woman to cover her head has reached Ijma', doesn't this mean anybody who knowingly rejects the obligation of covering the head becomes a Kafir?
Disclaimer: I believe that all the women's body part is awrah except her face and her hands.
No one ever becomes a kafir for that reason… please continue to seek guidance.
@@yellowmellow4753
There is a difference between saying something is not compulsory and not doing them. A person who says fasting during the month of Ramadan is not compulsory, he becomes a Kafir if he knows about the obligation but denies it. However, if he does not fast, he becomes a Fasiq, not a Kafir.
The reason why I ask such a question is because of the statement by certain scholars stating that there is an Ijma' (Scholarly Consensus) about the obligation of wearing the Khimar for Muslim women who are married and pubescent. Once you reject a ruling where there is an Ijma' about it, then it has become a matter of Aqeeda.
But sheikh, i life in a non muslim country and non muslim men completely ignore me they do not care, are not interested in someone covered when all other women show their whole body. Its always the muslims that would look or comment. So i do think that non muslims are not a fitna its mostly the muslim men.
I can agree, but you have to understand non-Muslim men already get sexual gratification from other sources, they are essentially desensitized to a women and dumbed down, so they wouldn't even care if you were beautiful and half naked because their culture in general is agaisnt harrasing women and they also are already satisfied.
besides that point it is upsetting we live in a time that Muslims are worse than Non-Muslims in this aspect clearly the scholars of the past couldn't fathom a time where a practising Muslim would be more harrasing of a women than a non-muslim
I also experience this
A Muslim lady on social media says that covering of head is not mandatory in Islam and that ruling of hijab was for the wives of prophet only. Kindly guide.
May Allah guide her back and prevent people from listening to that incorrect belief
To say that HIJAB is not fard, that’s kufr because denying religious obligations that are widespread well known without any difference of opinion is kufr
Hi! The "hijab "called khimar in the origin is mandatory in Islam but there is no sanction juridically if the woman does not do it. But it mandatory. Hope that helps !
@@leilaleila2629 JazakAllah
@@ryanamalfitano7572 Jazakallah
Please could you provide the link for that Niqab article, please? Can't see it on the website.
malikifiqhqa.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Face-Covering-in-the-Maliki-School.pdf
malikifiqhqa.com/niqab/
Mashallah I enjoyed the paper , the ideas are synthesized and the arguments are strong and the conclusions are clear.
I am of the Sheikh Hassan's students, would you like to contact him?
No
@twitjunkie6007 is this Dr Shadee?
I don't even have to watch a I know the Shaykh probably said in general it's not wajib.
You should watch it because it has conditions and situations where it can become wajib, sunnah, disliked and blameworthy
imam malik's madhab is from madinah. It was always wajib
@@sillybeans929only when a man is staring
@@Iamfsaly he said it’s disliked if it goes against the customs of that culture, recommended if she feels as if people are gazing upon her and wajib if she is so beautiful she is a issue for others also wajib if it could stop others from harming her haram for her If it would cause others to harm her
With all due respect to shaykh Hassan al Kattani , but , and this is something noticed many times from him , if what is in the Maalili Madhab goes against his salafi beliefs he will swiftly alter or change the former in favour of the latter! This issue of niqaab in the Madhab is one and another even clearer example are his additions and omissions in Ibn Ashoor! To just come and take classical literature and change and add parts due to it not agreeing with your own ( and alien ) views is not academically sound at all!
Is this shaykh Maliki or hambali?
Maliki
What does wajib mean?
If you do it with the intention of pleasing Allah or seeking its reward or fearing the punishment of not doing it, then you will be rewarded and if you leave it; something wajib, you get a sin
@abdulmalikal-habeshi5977 so there is sin for not doing a wajib? Is it wajib in hanafi fiqh
@@zebunissa8345In the Hanafi madhab the face of the woman is not awrah meaning does not required to be covered however in fitna it has to be. The Hanafi scholars state that we are in a general state of fitna so a non-elderly woman must cover the face front of non-mehrams. They make an exception for the elderly women. This is the relied upon opinion given to the public. There is a minority opinion of the Hanafi scholars that we cannot generally apply the ruling of fitna or that even in fitna the woman does not have to cover her face.
The clothing for men in hajj/umrah is not the same as outside of hajj/umrah, so using that logic for women is flawed
Actually, the ’awra of men in Hajj are exactly the same as outside of Hajj.
Have you seen the speech of Ahmad al Maghili speaking good about sihr etc. Pure jahl and misguidance
zindiq
Is it bida, makruh or both?