So in the mean time will they work to make the lives of those suffering more comfortable? I’m guessing not. Canada doesn’t help its marginalized people in any way. Poverty crumbs and inadequate medical care are what’s offered.
I agree with you 1oo percent. I cant imagine being in a marginalized group and navigating through supports. How bout we look at supports and not assist these people in dying.Lets use a common sense approach
@@margotmeiklejohn8440 I probably should’ve added more to my comment. We also need to respect people’s autonomy and stop confusing mental illness for mental incompetence. We should respect people’s rights to choose. It shouldn’t be up to the public or politicians. Personal feelings shouldn’t come into play, unless it’s those of the person suffering. MAiD shouldn’t be offered to anyone with mental illness. It should be an individual and unprompted choice by the patient and autonomy respected. Some with mental illness are mentally incompetent, but not all. Autonomy and dignity are wonderful things.
It cost way more to help someone than it does to just help them die! That is the fact and reason for MAID. It is not about compassion it is about money!
I wish MAiD would come out soon, I’m Canadian and my life is an unbearable hell. I can’t wait to finally die and not have the government stop me this time.
As historians have chronicled, the Nazi euthanasia program originated when a father in Leipzig petitioned to end the life of his disabled daughter, and Hitler dispatched his personal physician, Karl Brandt, to authorize her death as an “act of mercy.” According to the historian Hugh Gallagher, in his 1990 book, By Trust Betrayed: Patients, Physicians, and the License to Kill in the Third Reich, “As the story of the little Leipzig girl became known in medical circles, other families sent similar appeals to the Führer.” It fell to Brandt to make determinations on each of these requests and ultimately to authorize the killing of at least 70,000 people with disabilities, pursuant to what the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum describes as “a medically administered program of ‘mercy death.’” Doctors, at times, have killed. This is fact. Often, when they have killed or harmed, they have acted not alone but as agents of state authority. With all of their immense skill and influence, doctors have played indispensable roles in residential schools and asylums in Canada, wartime “comfort stations” in Southeast Asia, enhanced interrogation facilities at Guantánamo Bay and extermination centres in Nazi Germany. The Nazi Aktion T4 euthanasia program is a part of history. Those who would forbid us to speak of this history or who would police our speech as strident and unwelcome can only fuel doubt about whether its lessons have been learned.
@@EndofDays-7777 I have, and you are cruel! It’s not suicide when your body has also been failing you and will terminally get worse. I suggest you find your heart.. but maybe that’s too late for you. Cowards say the things you do and cruel hearted people say the things you do without any knowlegde if the person. I hope you think you are a good person b/c I am pretty sure many don’t with your need to be cruel instead of walking on & minding your own!
@@DiamondEyez456 Stephen Hawkins lost control of 99% his body and still somehow cheated on his wife. You have no excuses. Self-destruction is never an answer and we will have plenty of time to be dead when our time comes.
Just to let you know, autopsies have shown MAiD is similar to waterboarding/ slowly drowning. It can take 15 minutes... orally it can take hours. But you're given a paralytic first so you can't do anything about it, when in reality you'd be crying and screaming. It's torture. If someone truly wants to end their life they will do it. I went through a period of being suicidal and after many years I have the best life I could ever dream of. Please don't go down this path.
Last year illicit drugs killed 2500++ in British Columbia. No concerns or solutions except the politically regurgitated lines. Will a lack of government directions sent us there?
Not ready.. we’re ready and suffering.. and it takes away what we want to do in order to find peace. You have many doctors who already do this for other patients.. it’s the ego’s of healthcare professionals that need to step back and recognize that it’s not up to them.
You do realize that as these social programs roll out, they all come with heavy costs. You should know the old saying:"Socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples money." Pay no heed to this country's problems. Why pay $6,000 for a laser clinic here when you can go to Thailand for 2 weeks, get your laser treatment, all for half the price. There is no point at all for even retiring here when you can live cheap in so many nice places, for a fraction of the costs. Having more and more social programs is nice, but the money has to come from somewhere. And that somewhere is you🫵
@@rosssmith8481 b/c you don’t think I work? As if I don’t already pay into taxes.. 😂 You know what is more costly for the system… a body also breaking down further and having to have multiple health treatments as it degenerates.. but hey.. sure I’ll rack up years and years and years of public healthcare system costs that would be more costly on everyone else.. ok.. no problem, you got it.. 🙄😁🤦🏻
Damn you, Mark Holland. I have wished to die for 15 years and the government keeps telling me I have a reason to live. I don’t. My suffering matters. I should be able to be as free as someone with cancer. Help me. Please. P.S. Any reader who wants to help me, please let me know. I want to die. And I can’t do so for 3 ducking years? Bullshirt.
I really hope the people who are suffering so much they want to have their lives taken from them are given help from the system rather than being murdered by the system. The issue is, for almost everyone, the grass is greener after overcoming what seems to be an impossible task. If you are one of the people who are looking to use this system, just know that, no matter what it may seem, there ARE people who care about you. You have value, and you are important. Life may be unbearable now, but the feelings you have now are not who you are.
@@anpalang2899 is this about how you are going to make ends meet, how you are going to care for yourself or is it about you really just wanting to die because I feel that if there was more supports for people who needed it we wouldn't all be having this conversation
There is no help for me. I’ve had access to the best treatments, therapy, and medication for 8+ years. Sometimes the damage done by genetics and childhood cannot be undone. I am in physical and mental pain daily…. I cannot stand being here anymore. Something like MAiD would be amazing because self-suicide is not guaranteed to work, can leave you even more disabled, and has to be hidden from others in you life and is inherently traumatizing to them as unexpected. Euthanasia is so much more humane when there are no other options left…
They are pushing the date to see when there is a state of readiness?? They still want to go through with it and wait to see when we'll accept it. Utterly Unbelievable !!
As discussed, MAiD has a very dark, even sinister side. Gov’t Canada pushing it - and in many cases kids will die. they are Pushing MAiD to save on costs.
I feel that this is just going to cause a massive increase in marginalized people who have otherwise been abandoned by mental health services and medical institutions to be deemed eligible. Honestly, it feels… distasteful. I have very severe depression, but I definitely don’t want to die. I want some damn help. The ending of one’s life should be reserved for things that are incurable. Depression and poverty are not incurable. They’re just not prioritized by governments because officials everywhere can’t be bothered to actually ease the burden that’s placed upon the working class and marginalized communities. If it’s like the video of the old Swedish woman, where she’s happy and ready; then go for it. But don’t encourage people to give up because they’re trapped and can’t find any other places to turn. The fact that I’ve been hearing that autism could be added is concerning. And no, this isn’t a “Trudeau” thing. This was decided by the Supreme Court. The problem is government ineptitude on all levels, and the stigma around mental health.
I’ve been to this psychologist and that psychiatrist repeatedly over and over. I been on several medication over the year’s and nothing has helped. This is absolutely pathetic.
No do not delay or cancel maid, no one is pushing people into the end of there life. If you cancel maid the rest of us who suffer unnecessarily because of some right to life people! I am on odsp since 1998 and it went only 708 to 910 in over 20 years that is pathetic!
The alternative to life is not the peace you seek by ending it. There is only one outcome in that case and it is a terrible eternity of suffering unlike anything you could imagine here on earth😢 please 🙏 pray turn to the Bible and ask Jesus into your heart. This world shall pass away and then how we lived will dictate how our eternity is. Going the maid route is not a peaceful ending. Its the beginning of eternal torment 😢
I have lost a few people to suicide but still no matter what would never ever think this is a logical answer. People need help to get past their problems not a way to run away from it all!!
See, the thing is… I can’t get past my problem. I have a severe mental illness which has no cure. I also haven’t once run away from it, but rather faced it head in day by day for years. I’ve tried everything eastern and western doctors prescribe, live a healthy lifestyle (no drugs/drinking, eat well, sleep well, exercise, socialize) and nothing works. The problem in and of itself is a chronic/incurable illness that doesn’t go away, so I’m not sure how to get past my problems? Oh, suicidal thinking is also a medically known symptom of my illness, so on top of wanting an escape from all the other incurable pain, I get the double hit. Not everyone seeking maid is “running from problems”. I’ve been facing mine head on for years. But when health continues to decline, and you feel like I do every day, you eventually realize you’d like to go with dignity.
Lol.....
Pushed it out for fear of backlash in an election
So in the mean time will they work to make the lives of those suffering more comfortable? I’m guessing not. Canada doesn’t help its marginalized people in any way. Poverty crumbs and inadequate medical care are what’s offered.
I agree with you 1oo percent. I cant imagine being in a marginalized group and navigating through supports. How bout we look at supports and not assist these people in dying.Lets use a common sense approach
@@margotmeiklejohn8440 I probably should’ve added more to my comment. We also need to respect people’s autonomy and stop confusing mental illness for mental incompetence. We should respect people’s rights to choose. It shouldn’t be up to the public or politicians. Personal feelings shouldn’t come into play, unless it’s those of the person suffering. MAiD shouldn’t be offered to anyone with mental illness. It should be an individual and unprompted choice by the patient and autonomy respected. Some with mental illness are mentally incompetent, but not all. Autonomy and dignity are wonderful things.
nah, they will keep increasing the cost of living and make life unbearable
It cost way more to help someone than it does to just help them die! That is the fact and reason for MAID. It is not about compassion it is about money!
I remember when "suicide help line" had an entirely different meaning?
I wish MAiD would come out soon, I’m Canadian and my life is an unbearable hell. I can’t wait to finally die and not have the government stop me this time.
As historians have chronicled, the Nazi euthanasia program originated when a father in Leipzig petitioned to end the life of his disabled daughter, and Hitler dispatched his personal physician, Karl Brandt, to authorize her death as an “act of mercy.” According to the historian Hugh Gallagher, in his 1990 book, By Trust Betrayed: Patients, Physicians, and the License to Kill in the Third Reich, “As the story of the little Leipzig girl became known in medical circles, other families sent similar appeals to the Führer.” It fell to Brandt to make determinations on each of these requests and ultimately to authorize the killing of at least 70,000 people with disabilities, pursuant to what the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum describes as “a medically administered program of ‘mercy death.’”
Doctors, at times, have killed. This is fact. Often, when they have killed or harmed, they have acted not alone but as agents of state authority. With all of their immense skill and influence, doctors have played indispensable roles in residential schools and asylums in Canada, wartime “comfort stations” in Southeast Asia, enhanced interrogation facilities at Guantánamo Bay and extermination centres in Nazi Germany.
The Nazi Aktion T4 euthanasia program is a part of history. Those who would forbid us to speak of this history or who would police our speech as strident and unwelcome can only fuel doubt about whether its lessons have been learned.
I hope so I waited yell March 2023 then they moved to March 2024 now 2027
I want maid too.
Is the government stopping you?
They will never tell you how MAID really works.
You are paralyzed and drown in your own lung fluid. Awake.
This is unfair on those of us who want to go peacefully. It’s crushed me.
@@EndofDays-7777 I have, and you are cruel!
It’s not suicide when your body has also been failing you and will terminally get worse.
I suggest you find your heart.. but maybe that’s too late for you.
Cowards say the things you do and cruel hearted people say the things you do without any knowlegde if the person.
I hope you think you are a good person b/c I am pretty sure many don’t with your need to be cruel instead of walking on & minding your own!
I'm truly sorry for what you're going through
@@DiamondEyez456 Stephen Hawkins lost control of 99% his body and still somehow cheated on his wife. You have no excuses. Self-destruction is never an answer and we will have plenty of time to be dead when our time comes.
What do you need the government for? Nothing is stopping you, but you would already know this if you were serious.
May I ask your age?
this is not fair. i was waiting for it to be available already😞
I know still going to trycsnd apply
@@topperharley7892any luck applying for Maid?
Just to let you know, autopsies have shown MAiD is similar to waterboarding/ slowly drowning. It can take 15 minutes... orally it can take hours. But you're given a paralytic first so you can't do anything about it, when in reality you'd be crying and screaming. It's torture.
If someone truly wants to end their life they will do it. I went through a period of being suicidal and after many years I have the best life I could ever dream of. Please don't go down this path.
Last year illicit drugs killed 2500++ in British Columbia. No concerns or solutions except the politically regurgitated lines. Will a lack of government directions sent us there?
What relevance does thus have to that? How is the government supposed to magically stop all smugglers? Dementia + Magical thinking is wild
People should have a right to end their life.
People aren’t God.
@@angelina22istGod isn’t real.
@@angelina22ist and yet I bet you'd still get surgery
@@angelina22istGod is real. So is heaven and hell.
@@Ray-mj1sy I know.
Not ready.. we’re ready and suffering.. and it takes away what we want to do in order to find peace.
You have many doctors who already do this for other patients.. it’s the ego’s of healthcare professionals that need to step back and recognize that it’s not up to them.
You do realize that as these social programs roll out, they all come with heavy costs.
You should know the old saying:"Socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples money."
Pay no heed to this country's problems.
Why pay $6,000 for a laser clinic here when you can go to Thailand for 2 weeks, get your laser treatment, all for half the price.
There is no point at all for even retiring here when you can live cheap in so many nice places, for a fraction of the costs.
Having more and more social programs is nice, but the money has to come from somewhere. And that somewhere is you🫵
How much do you get paid to post this utter drivel?
I have seen multiple dumb comments from you. If Maid is that important to you. Get signed up on the list for 2027..
@@rosssmith8481 b/c you don’t think I work? As if I don’t already pay into taxes.. 😂
You know what is more costly for the system… a body also breaking down further and having to have multiple health treatments as it degenerates..
but hey.. sure I’ll rack up years and years and years of public healthcare system costs that would be more costly on everyone else.. ok.. no problem, you got it.. 🙄😁🤦🏻
@DiamondEyez456
Wow. Talk aboutmissing the point entirely.
Damn you, Mark Holland. I have wished to die for 15 years and the government keeps telling me I have a reason to live.
I don’t. My suffering matters. I should be able to be as free as someone with cancer.
Help me. Please.
P.S. Any reader who wants to help me, please let me know. I want to die. And I can’t do so for 3 ducking years? Bullshirt.
I read a comment by a MAID aspirant that actually read: "It's the waiting that kills you".
At least some of them have kept their sense of humour.
I really hope the people who are suffering so much they want to have their lives taken from them are given help from the system rather than being murdered by the system. The issue is, for almost everyone, the grass is greener after overcoming what seems to be an impossible task. If you are one of the people who are looking to use this system, just know that, no matter what it may seem, there ARE people who care about you. You have value, and you are important. Life may be unbearable now, but the feelings you have now are not who you are.
Cold comfort
Are you gonna give me money to be able to survive. No? Thought so. Please shut it if you can't put your money where your mouth is.
@@anpalang2899 is this about how you are going to make ends meet, how you are going to care for yourself or is it about you really just wanting to die because I feel that if there was more supports for people who needed it we wouldn't all be having this conversation
Lol why do people like you always use the same exact canned response just to keep people here and use them for resources.
There is no help for me. I’ve had access to the best treatments, therapy, and medication for 8+ years. Sometimes the damage done by genetics and childhood cannot be undone. I am in physical and mental pain daily…. I cannot stand being here anymore.
Something like MAiD would be amazing because self-suicide is not guaranteed to work, can leave you even more disabled, and has to be hidden from others in you life and is inherently traumatizing to them as unexpected. Euthanasia is so much more humane when there are no other options left…
Instead of helping people find housing they decided to solve the housing crisis with this wonderful maid service !
agreed
They are pushing the date to see when there is a state of readiness??
They still want to go through with it and wait to see when we'll accept it. Utterly Unbelievable !!
Of coarse they did why wouldn't they.they caused the issue in the first place.
Dr. Peterson & Kelsi Sheren. "The Horrifying Truth Behind MAID They Aren't Telling You". This is NOT a peaceful end. PLEASE... go watch it.
As discussed, MAiD has a very dark, even sinister side. Gov’t Canada pushing it - and in many cases kids will die. they are
Pushing MAiD to save on costs.
BOOOOOO!!!👎🏾
I feel that this is just going to cause a massive increase in marginalized people who have otherwise been abandoned by mental health services and medical institutions to be deemed eligible. Honestly, it feels… distasteful. I have very severe depression, but I definitely don’t want to die. I want some damn help.
The ending of one’s life should be reserved for things that are incurable.
Depression and poverty are not incurable. They’re just not prioritized by governments because officials everywhere can’t be bothered to actually ease the burden that’s placed upon the working class and marginalized communities.
If it’s like the video of the old Swedish woman, where she’s happy and ready; then go for it.
But don’t encourage people to give up because they’re trapped and can’t find any other places to turn.
The fact that I’ve been hearing that autism could be added is concerning.
And no, this isn’t a “Trudeau” thing. This was decided by the Supreme Court. The problem is government ineptitude on all levels, and the stigma around mental health.
This is just disgusting. They need to pass this law.
I’ve been to this psychologist and that psychiatrist repeatedly over and over. I been on several medication over the year’s and nothing has helped. This is absolutely pathetic.
No do not delay or cancel maid, no one is pushing people into the end of there life. If you cancel maid the rest of us who suffer unnecessarily because of some right to life people! I am on odsp since 1998 and it went only 708 to 910 in over 20 years that is pathetic!
I’ve been waiting years. Suffering for years. This is disgusting.
I’m a conservative and I find this an awful decision.
need more time for what? ..... how long
I Will pray this never see’s the light of day may god protect us this is mental
Oh good. So its dead in the water then.... No pun intended!
Yeah, the bill will probably die on the floor of the house, so at least there are some quiet health chuckles on offer.
how long do i have to fking suffer.....?!
Jesus Christ man....
WTFs !?!?!?!?!?!?
Cannot wait until 2027
The alternative to life is not the peace you seek by ending it. There is only one outcome in that case and it is a terrible eternity of suffering unlike anything you could imagine here on earth😢 please 🙏 pray turn to the Bible and ask Jesus into your heart. This world shall pass away and then how we lived will dictate how our eternity is. Going the maid route is not a peaceful ending. Its the beginning of eternal torment 😢
How many died to date . they dont say .
"mental illness shouldn't be conflated with mental health concerns". what does that mean?
I'm ready 😢
Me too
Keep the debate going !
I have lost a few people to suicide but still no matter what would never ever think this is a logical answer. People need help to get past their problems not a way to run away from it all!!
See, the thing is… I can’t get past my problem. I have a severe mental illness which has no cure. I also haven’t once run away from it, but rather faced it head in day by day for years. I’ve tried everything eastern and western doctors prescribe, live a healthy lifestyle (no drugs/drinking, eat well, sleep well, exercise, socialize) and nothing works. The problem in and of itself is a chronic/incurable illness that doesn’t go away, so I’m not sure how to get past my problems? Oh, suicidal thinking is also a medically known symptom of my illness, so on top of wanting an escape from all the other incurable pain, I get the double hit.
Not everyone seeking maid is “running from problems”. I’ve been facing mine head on for years. But when health continues to decline, and you feel like I do every day, you eventually realize you’d like to go with dignity.
I should be gone by now. Thanks a lot.
Hodor
Suicide is never the answer.
Then what is?
What is then? Letting people with debilitating and painful disorders just exist so you can pat yourself on the back?
Doctors are meant to help people live...not die...and the government shouldn't be in the business of killing people.@@mjo4714
What the hell would you know? When have you ever suffered unbearable pain?
Is it just me or does this guy look like Josh Gates from Expedition Unknown
Aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww aww…..etc.
Congratulations 🥳 Canada 🇨🇦 good 😊 Job
Congratulations on taking away a chance at real autonomy, hooray!