Pope Benedict XVI: The Third Secret Is Spoken | Signs and Secrets Ep. 19

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  • @day1678
    @day1678 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    love the blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jesus. Pray the Rosary daily for her intentions. Love her by living in the Divine Will of her Son, Jesus.

    • @finallythere100
      @finallythere100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This message from B16 is vague and intentionally obtuse.

  • @rosalindaarquiza4028
    @rosalindaarquiza4028 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i am very much grateful to GOD and long for someone who can represent about FATIMA CENTER

  • @julianashevy
    @julianashevy ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you with God's grace glory to the Heavenly Father our Lord . Amen ❤ Hallelujah

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so very much for your prayer. It is deeply appreciated. God bless!

  • @1961Lara
    @1961Lara ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am glad the algorithm three this into my feed! Happy to have found your site!

  • @debrasaints3809
    @debrasaints3809 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you! I’ve read other comments here that say that they don’t understand your translation or explanation of Pope Benedict’s statements regarding such. I disagree. I think this is one of the most concise translations from Italian to English. Pope Benedict’s statements lead me to believe he resigned the papacy in order offer his suffering for the Church. Possibly, also, to atone for his part in the sufferings of the Church. Ie: his participant in Vatican 11 and “ecumenism”! Great video. Chock full of insight!

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @debrasaints3809 Thank you, too! I'm grateful that you so easily understood and shared that information. God bless you!

    • @annmariefinnigan3096
      @annmariefinnigan3096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the 1st time I've seen this channel. I accecigerally

  • @maryannesheehy5846
    @maryannesheehy5846 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for this presentation which is so clear. God Bless you!

  • @ivanhicks887
    @ivanhicks887 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thankyou - God Loves You

  • @gloriamarquez7999
    @gloriamarquez7999 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "It is the Sufferings of the Church that are announced"...Amen! 😢🙏 "BLESSED are those who are persecuted for the sake of the KINGDOM of GOD"...Not the kingdom of man!!! 😔🙏📿

  • @ggtauro7342
    @ggtauro7342 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much.

  • @michaelfoeofevil5587
    @michaelfoeofevil5587 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i love these series

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much for listening and for your appreciation!

    • @lindsayjanes7203
      @lindsayjanes7203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Things are so much clearer.

  • @kathleenpenny9388
    @kathleenpenny9388 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. We can continue to pray and be mindful of The Blessed Virgins requests, and God's Devine Will

  • @revelation1215
    @revelation1215 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What I believe Benedict was saying was that “the Pope will have much to suffer” refers not only to the suffering of the Pope but also to the church perhaps _because_ of the Pope.

    • @sallys9294
      @sallys9294 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good point

    • @kfresne3011
      @kfresne3011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This has been described by someone else...that perhaps the pope will see his errors in the fruits they bear among the laity and clergy but it will be too late.

    • @wallsign4575
      @wallsign4575 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is called a chastisement that is allowed because of people offending God. Our Lady of Success (which is actually our Lady of the Good Purification). It’s also evidence of the ape of the Church and the great apostasy that has been prophesied

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wallsign4575 more precisely it’s Our Lady of the Good Event of the Purification. Obviously referring to the purification of the Church.

    • @Saint.Evil.11
      @Saint.Evil.11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our church is so crooked probably what it says

  • @Francis-ko9im
    @Francis-ko9im ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you, well done!

  • @iwanhendraleonardus6407
    @iwanhendraleonardus6407 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a legitimate Pope who was Catholic, Pope Benedict offered his suffering to manifest the suffering of the Church and the suffering of the Popes to help to bring about the triumph of the Immaculate heart of Mary.

    • @kathleenpenny9388
      @kathleenpenny9388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! What a dear Man! What a Brave and Kind thing to do. I am very greatful

    • @angied7857
      @angied7857 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a source or link of this offering? Or it's just an opinion?

  • @niall4588
    @niall4588 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It is claimed that Cardinal Razinger remarked to bishop Ito of Japan that an investigation into the veracity of the message given to Sr Agnes Sasagawa in Akita was unnecessary as it was essentially the Third Secret of Fatima. Significantly the message of Akita was given on October 13th, 1973, the anniversary of the last apparition at Fatima.

    • @niall4588
      @niall4588 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I forgot to explain. "it is spoken" could be a cryptic hint that the third secret had been revealed in the message of Akita.

    • @wallsign4575
      @wallsign4575 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@niall4588- Thanks 🙏🏽 for bringing this up. There’s enormous continuity between the messages of our Lady of the Good Purification (Success), La Salette, Fatima and Akita.

    • @metrocustomer7941
      @metrocustomer7941 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wallsign4575 Amen 🕯

    • @akitajapan1651
      @akitajapan1651 ปีที่แล้ว

      Si pues El conocia El contenido del 3er screto. Y x ESO tambien fue y es certificada Akita

  • @maryannesheehy5846
    @maryannesheehy5846 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for looking at all the little ins and outs’ we miss or ‘they’ miss in their presentations about the third secret. I can never feel a certain ‘let down’ from Pope Benedict’ in not giving us the true Third Secret’. He did have the great privilege of reading it. All of it. Surely Our Mother, our Queen, our Mary ever Virgin’. Would have told us about Vatican ll. Why in the world would she NOT tell about the coming destruction of ours and her Sons Church, the only means of salvation on earth?

  • @DrJonathanGemmill
    @DrJonathanGemmill ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good 🔥👏. Thank you 🙂. God bless 🙏⛪⚓.

  • @tman6495
    @tman6495 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So by 2025...as predicted we shall experience a massive good change...worldly!❤

  • @ellenbuttner6091
    @ellenbuttner6091 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you and God love you

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ellenbuttner6091 May God bless you, too! Thank you for listening.

  • @dognatious6153
    @dognatious6153 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I listened to the entire video and we still can't figure out what was her thesis. I came out of the video knowing nothing more than I knew before. The thesis wasn't stated clearly in the beginning nor in the end... No disrespect, but we need very clear information not a academic lecture. Time is too short, Satan is working expeditiously, destroying souls and hope, and things need to be preached ardently and passionately, now. Milktoast academic lectures don't do it.

  • @gofusmoholl3462
    @gofusmoholl3462 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Catholic church is the bride of Jesus. Thou art peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. What church do you think Jesus was referring to the Catholic Church

    • @stevenpeluso7670
      @stevenpeluso7670 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus said to Peter upon this rock l will build my church. Jesus didn't say, l will build the Catholic church. The true church is a spiritual church.not physical. Men build churches, but their all false. Including the Catholic church.

    • @Joethecatholic
      @Joethecatholic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenpeluso7670Ofcourse Jesus didn’t say ‘Catholic Church’ Catholic is what it was referred to soon after as katalikos is Greek for universal. katalikos translated to English is catholic. So Jesus’ Church He founded on Peter and the apostles IS universal (anyone is most welcome) so the Catholic word isn’t a name of a certain church it’s Jesus’ universal Church.

  • @Crusader33ad
    @Crusader33ad ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cardinal Ratzinger said that the apparitions at Akita are essentially the third secret. Lots of chastisements at Akita. We did not get the whole thing in 2000.

    • @getyourwillhere
      @getyourwillhere ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually it was Malichi Martin who said this

    • @Crusader33ad
      @Crusader33ad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@getyourwillhere - ratzinger also said this in an interview after he approved the worthiness of the apparitions in 1988. I believe the Fatima center reported this.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Crusader33ad Thank you for your comment. On page 41 of his book The Secret Still Hidden, Christopher Ferrara cites a Catholic World News report of October 11, 2001, on this subject. He writes: "Howard Dee, former Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, revealed in a 1998 interview with Inside the Vatican that 'Bishop Ito was certain Akita was an extension of Fatima, and Cardinal Ratzinger personally confirmed to me that these two messages, of Fatima and Akita, are essentially the same.” God bless you.
      fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Secret-Still-Hidden.pdf

    • @Crusader33ad
      @Crusader33ad ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheFatimaCenter - God bless you as well. May Jesus and Mary restore the church! Your work is important. Thank you.

    • @lindaobrien8538
      @lindaobrien8538 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has Akita been approved??

  • @jacquestaulard3088
    @jacquestaulard3088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im glad you did this piece. The timidity of the Papacy re: Fatima is impossible to explain, as they took great pains to support it, to visit there, to keep the Russian church from being offended, from dodging the First Saturdays devotion....But, "he answered, and spoke to me, saying: This is the word of the Lord to Zorobabel, saying: Not with an army, nor by might, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts."

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jacquesstaulard3088 Thank you very much! As for what you said about the timidity of the popes---well said. Certainly, it is bewildering, bur I also believe that more Catholics most practice that which Our Lady commanded. It is a continual challenge to spread the Fatima Message when the men of the Church don't fully promote it, but we must always keep in mind (as I in the video said) her promise that her Immaculate Heart will triumph, the Pope will consecrate Russia, Russia will be converted, and an era of peace will be granted to the world (also rendered as "mankind").
      God bless!

  • @Soul_Watcher
    @Soul_Watcher ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fyi for those commenting about Akita have you seen Ep17, “Fire Will Fall” from 1 month ago here on The Fatima Center? I would give it watch. Cheers

    • @catholic3dod790
      @catholic3dod790 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think fires will fall that sound like nuclear missiles...just said.

  • @erinmarie99
    @erinmarie99 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thank you! This was so informative and somewhat confirms the “hunches” we all have about that secret. What’s fascinating is that Pope Francis KNOWS the whole thing…his actions are beyond confusing but he must feel immense weight on his shoulders.

    • @KristiLEvans1
      @KristiLEvans1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don’t think he does. Not in the sense you and I would mean.

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so very welcome! Currently, there is no evidence that Pope Francis has read the Third Secret's Message (the words of Our Lady), although it is evident that he is familiar with the description of the Third Secret Vision. It is truly a mystery that he and previous popes who were supposedly dedicated to Our Lady and the Holy Rosary cannot bring themselves to take seriously Our Lady's Great Secret, the Miracle of the Sun which confirmed her Message, and her direct commands to the Pope to himself command and lead the collegial consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and to make a public act of reparation to the same Heart, followed by the papal promulgation the Five First Saturdays of Reparation to the Universal Church.
      Thank you for listening, and God bless!

    • @j2muw667
      @j2muw667 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Seems he thinks it’s to be another pope farther down the line of succession?
      Secular thinkers never attributes evil to themselves.

  • @gilliansavant3816
    @gilliansavant3816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I followed father grunner for almost 20 yrs. He started all this. Give him credit

  • @arianegravenor7453
    @arianegravenor7453 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for your conferences, sometimes over my head, but usually enlightening.
    Just a note on the translation of Corriere della Sera: in colloquial English it would be "The Evening Post".

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @arianegravenor7453 Yes, but the literal translation is (The) Evening Courier. Again, this is always the issue with translation. The word "post" conveys delivery of a message and today , in American English usage, it is a word more commonly used. We make a post online, the person who delivers mail to our home or business is now called a postal carrier ( i.e., a courier), etc. However, as I said in the video, to make my point, my translation was a literal one.
      So thank you for your input, and God bless!

  • @vincentlattuca3763
    @vincentlattuca3763 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Follow the Virgin to Garabandal Spain 1962. Indeed Lucy was replaced before 1960 at which time she was to reveal the secret.

    • @deniseb4426
      @deniseb4426 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are crazy in the head.

    • @catholic3dod790
      @catholic3dod790 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our Lady of Garanbadal is not full Church approval.

  • @dontbefooled2496
    @dontbefooled2496 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "In the end My Holy Heart will triumph"

  • @Jones11733
    @Jones11733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god

  • @ladyt1866
    @ladyt1866 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    OurLady of Fatima pray for us. We have most definitely only gotten a fragment of the Secret s , imo. We most definitely haven’t gotten the 3rd secret.

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ladyt1866 Yes, may we ask always ask through pious supplications, especially the daily Rosary, for the Virgin's intercession. God bless!

  • @barbaraboterberg6370
    @barbaraboterberg6370 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The papacy is the order of Melchizedek.

  • @russingersoll5761
    @russingersoll5761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best lies contain some elements of truth.

  • @franciskalil2870
    @franciskalil2870 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    .
    🙏 Make Ready Da Catacombs ! 🙏
    🍞 🐟

  • @anniegarcia828
    @anniegarcia828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve heard this topic about the third secret, and the the looks of it it’s not going to be revealed any time soon or ever. So little topics here and there have been mentioned but it’s as far as it goes, the church is scared To say But one thing with God all will be revealed someday.

  • @bobcarabbio4880
    @bobcarabbio4880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Goody!!! Yet another version of the "Third Secret". Be still my heart!!!

  • @VisionaryVet
    @VisionaryVet ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Gen 1;14 He created the heavens for SIGNS and seasons . Rev 12 is the connection . Virgo is our Blessed Lady . Her crown of 12 stars or tribes is Leo . The head of Leo is called the sickle . In August when the Sun enters Leo he will harvest . Furious anger will soon be poured over them . We are now witnessing the beginning all over the world . Many were called but few answered. Those Righteous few are Rising . 🕊️❤️🕊️

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, I've included that Scriptural verse in both my Fatima and my Guadalupe book. Thanks for listening!

    • @maryellenjohnson4119
      @maryellenjohnson4119 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just curious, this sounds like astrology?

    • @VisionaryVet
      @VisionaryVet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maryellenjohnson4119 Nope . It’s clearly written . As the veil lifts many will close their eyes 🕊️🕊️

    • @maryellenjohnson4119
      @maryellenjohnson4119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisionaryVet Thank you for clarifying.

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @maryellenjohnson4119 The key word is "signs." As I explained in my book, "Guadalupe: Secrets of the Image" :
      >
      In brief, then, God uses the sun, the moon, and the stars as silent signs of prophecy or, in other words, as a symbolic representation of a person, place, or event (i.e., the Star of Jacob; the material Sun representing the Son of God, Who is both Our Savior and our Judge; stars which can symbolize the elect, the hierarchy, etc.; the Morning Star, which symbolizes Christ but also Our Lady). We read in Apocalypse 12:1 of "the great sign" that appeared in heaven (heaven symbolizing the Church), " a woman clothed with the SUN," who stands on the MOON, and wears a crown of 12 STARS (all emphasis mine). These are examples of God's language of utilizing symbolism in prophecy, but there are other biblical symbols like a mountain, a rod and staff, an eagle, various trees, a hart (a deer), and so on.
      God bless!

  • @medu3334
    @medu3334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Relatives of Sister Lucia would visit her after her supposed replacement and never remarked that the real Sister Lucia had disappeared and that a fake one was whom they met.

    • @deniseb4426
      @deniseb4426 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are crazy in the head.

    • @robertthaler2363
      @robertthaler2363 ปีที่แล้ว

      The impostor was kept behind a darkened distance behind a screen just to keep her difficult to see clearly.

  • @tadijamatek2469
    @tadijamatek2469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So,what is the the secret?

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your important question. Here are the parts of the Secret which have been published, taken from the writings of the eldest visionary, Lucia, including her description of the June 13 apparition which the children understood to be part of the Great Secret:
      "[On June 13, 1917, Our Lady said,] `I will take Jacinta and Francisco [to Heaven] soon, but you, Lucia, are to stay here some time longer. Jesus wishes to make use of you in order to make Me known and loved. He wills to establish in the world devotion to My Immaculate Heart. . To those who embrace this devotion, I promise salvation. These souls will be cherished by God, as flowers placed by Me to adorn His Throne.' . As Our Lady pronounced these last words, She opened Her hands and communicated to us, for the second time, the reflection of that same immense light. We saw ourselves in this light, as it were, immersed in God. . In front of the palm of Our Lady's right hand was a Heart encircled by thorns which pierced it. We understood that this was the Immaculate Heart of Mary, outraged by the sins of humanity, and seeking reparation."
      “[On July 13, 1917, Our Lady of Fatima said,]: ‘Sacrifice yourselves for sinners, and say often, especially whenever you make a sacrifice: O Jesus, it is for love of Thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.’
      “As Our Lady spoke these last words, She opened Her hands once more, as She had done during the two previous months. The rays of light seemed to penetrate the earth, and we saw as it were a vast sea of fire. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in huge fires, without weight or equilibrium, amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. (It must have been this sight which caused me to cry out, as people say they heard me). The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repellent likeness to frightful and unknown animals, black and transparent like burning coals. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror. Terrified and as if to plead for succor, we looked up at Our Lady, who said to us, so kindly and so sadly:
      “‘You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wills to establish in the world devotion to My Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end; but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the reign of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that He is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of Reparation on the First Saturdays. If My requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.’
      “After the two parts [of the Secret] which I have already explained [i.e., the Vision of hell, and Our Lady's accompanying words], at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance! Penance! Penance!’ And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it’ a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father.’ Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.
      “[Our Lady continued:]
      1. ‘In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved’
      2. etc
      3.
      4.
      5.
      6.
      7.
      8. [The other twenty-four lines,
      9. by the express order of the Blessed Virgin,
      10. were to have been published in 1960.
      11. Nevertheless, they remain unpublished.]
      12.
      13.
      14.
      15.
      16.
      17.
      18.
      19.
      20.
      21.
      22.
      23.
      24.
      25.
      ‘Do not tell this to anyone. Francisco, yes, you may tell him.’”
      The above text of the Third Secret Vision (of a "Bishop dressed in White") published on June 26, 2000, comprises 64 lines in Lucia’s handwriting. We know from both Bishop Venancio and Cardinal Ottaviani that the Third Secret text containing Our Lady's words (beginning, "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved") contains only 25 lines. The Vision is clearly not the entirety of the Third Secret.
      Much is known about the missing text, especially in light of the testimonies of many people who have been privileged to read it, and given also the course of events that has taken place since 1960 when the Secret was to have been published.
      For one thing, we know that this text is written in the form of a letter (in contrast to the journal-entry style of the Third-Secret Vision published in June 2000). Lucia told Father Hubert Jongen in an interview on February 3, 1946,
      "I communicated the third part IN A LETTER to the Bishop of Leiria."
      We also know that the missing text contains the words of Our Lady (as opposed to Lucy's first-person account of the Third-Secret Vision). Father Joseph Schweigl, who was sent by Pope Pius XII to interrogate Lucia at her convent in Coimbra on September 2, 1952, confided to one of his colleagues at the Russicum that the Third Secret has two parts, one of which is the continuation of Our Lady's words as found in Lucia's Fourth Memoir:
      "I cannot reveal anything of what I learned at Fatima concerning the Third Secret, but I can say that it has two parts: One concerns the Pope. The other, logically - although I must say nothing - would have to be the continuation of the words: ‘In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved.'"
      We know, too, that the missing text predicts a crisis of faith WITHIN the Church, as opposed to the external attacks described in the Third-Secret Vision. As Cardinal Luigi Ciappi (who served as personal theologian for five successive Popes through a span of 40 years) explicitly affirmed in 1995 about the Third Secret, Our Lady foretold a crisis of faith within the Church which he went so far as to call the great apostasy (apparently the very "revolt" spoken of by St Paul in 2 Thes. 2: 3 as preceding the Antichrist's coming):
      "In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church begins at the top."
      It is also reliably reported that the Third Secret contains an explicit warning against the Second Vatican Council and the Novus Ordo Mass. As Fr. Ingo Döllinger recently confirmed (and as he had privately made known to Fr. Paul Kramer more than ten years ago), Cardinal Ratzinger admitted to him that the vision published in June 2000 is not the entirety of the Third Secret; and that in the still-hidden text of the Secret, Our Lady warns explicitly against an evil council and against the scandal of changing the liturgy.
      For more information, please see Christopher Ferrara's book, The Secret Still Hidden, which you can read at no cost online at fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Secret-Still-Hidden.pdf

  • @williammcenaney1331
    @williammcenaney1331 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since "is spoken" is in the passive voice, I don't understand it. We know Our Lady spoke to tell Lucia, Francisco, and Jacinta the Third Secret. So did Pope Benedict XVI mean that someone else repeated it? If he meant that, why didn't he say who repeated it?

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said it (the Third Secret) is spoken. Since the Virgin gave the entire Great Secret to the Church via the three children, it is evident that (similar to the first part of the Secret), the last part (the Third Secret) is spoken and shown by the Virgin.

    • @getyourwillhere
      @getyourwillhere ปีที่แล้ว

      This makes more sense. As the 3 S is written on a single page.

    • @williammcenaney1331
      @williammcenaney1331 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genesis_315 He could have said "The Virgin spoke the Third Secret and showed it."

  • @rosalindaarquiza4028
    @rosalindaarquiza4028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was a follower of ft gruner

  • @debbiefurtado9780
    @debbiefurtado9780 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please tell us what the third secret really is.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for your question. There are two parts to the Third Secret, but only one part has been published, while Vatican authorities continue to deny that the other part exists.

      The part that has been published is Sister Lucy's account of a Vision of a "Bishop dressed in White," that is, presumably of an anti-pope, and also of the true Holy Father and other faithful Catholics being martyred under a hail of bullets and arrows. We believe this to be a genuine part of the Third Secret.
      The still-hidden part is the continuation of Our Lady's own words given in connection with that Vision, beginning "In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved". This text is known to consist of about 25 lines, warning explicitly of an evil Council and changes in the liturgy, and describing the generality of Catholics being led into apostasy by the highest level of the Church's leadership. God bless you.
      fatima.org/about/the-third-secret/

    • @debbiefurtado9780
      @debbiefurtado9780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much for this response. I imagine that many are waiting for more of a response from The Vatican. Maybe the Vatican will keep it a secret. Who knows.

  • @errorsofmodernism9715
    @errorsofmodernism9715 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please display the original Italian so we can read it ourselves. You can do an English commentary over it if you wish

  • @bridget1780
    @bridget1780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instead of scolding, why don't you cut to the chase?

  • @alicerjmgeorge5572
    @alicerjmgeorge5572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need repentance

  • @lldlila
    @lldlila ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry I didn’t hear anything new in this presentation.

  • @garymcdermott8748
    @garymcdermott8748 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please get to the point.

  • @vincentlattuca3763
    @vincentlattuca3763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worship God not money. Society is being controlled with money. Indeed the book of Enoch is essentially true and the bad angels have and still run the show on earth. Expand love and humble ourselves. 500 years after the death of Jesus Christians were lost to the Crusades and Inquisition as we claimed to be fighting in the name of Christ. There are no holy wars.

    • @josephcioppa1943
      @josephcioppa1943 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles Martel driving out Islam in Europe?

  • @marion4827
    @marion4827 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Real sister Lucia was killed 1958 and replaced with spuria.

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We really don't know know that. On my own Genesis 315 channel, I've addressed the question and asked a few of my own. Thanks for listening!

    • @jjmj7095
      @jjmj7095 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What is your proof? One can't just say that Sister Lucia was killed in 1958 unless there is absolute proof. +JMJ+

    • @andrewumlor965
      @andrewumlor965 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lucia was definitely replaced with an imposter, but what they did with her and when is still a mystery.

    • @DAIHSSMITH
      @DAIHSSMITH ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes she was indeed replaced (died naturally or offed) and the following video PROVES it. Anyone with eyes really could see but very glad to be official. NOW let's find out WHY? link to prove below from Novus Ordo Watch.
      th-cam.com/video/EpHHOKGERS0/w-d-xo.html

    • @vincentlattuca3763
      @vincentlattuca3763 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The book the imposter Lucy clearly shows she was at least replaced.

  • @anthonymckinney9904
    @anthonymckinney9904 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How can we trust your translation?

    • @genesis_315
      @genesis_315 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You would have to do as I did, and maybe more. Use the internet, track down articles on what the Pope said that day, and (if you can't translate the original Italian), hire at least two translators. Wishing you the best in your efforts!

    • @lindaobrien8538
      @lindaobrien8538 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Orthodox church. I believe claim orthodoxy came before Ronan Catholicism???

    • @anthonymckinney9904
      @anthonymckinney9904 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lindaobrien8538 No, they are one in the same Church. The Orthodox happened to separate from the Church, but we are so close to being One Church. I pray we will united as the Church JESUS CHRIST established.

  • @brucecyr2551
    @brucecyr2551 ปีที่แล้ว

    There will be a Church Age of Peace, the Triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart. But Many Catholic Prophecies will unfold worldwide first; AFTER THE WARNING TO 2038 book and website help to understand coming events.

  • @robertthaler2363
    @robertthaler2363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since Sister Lucy has changer her demeanor in the 1967 three minute recorded interview with her and the pope on the anniversary, there grew a suspicion that she was not the same woman who died in 2005 . To prove it a needed scientific evidence so the world's professional forensic professionals were called upon and they all concluded that she definitely was not the same woman Her hand writing and her facial features and her personality. The implications against the Vatican are probably what the secret warning was in 1960 was, played out. If you have suspicions about the need for a reforming of Catholic Catechism and doctrine such as Vatican II, the return of the condemned Scorzelli Crucifix, and the Sister Faustina's Diary and more. you have your answer I call it an apostacy at the very top after Pius XII's death The true popes have been exiled just as they once were, in the catacombs, guiding the small true flock. Catastrophic !!! How could the secret possibly trifling?? You heard about Cardinal Siri being elected as Gregory XVII in the 1958 conclave and held as a conspiracy fraud, but it wasn't First of all John XXIII was a documented Mason and more The secret was really all about the loss of souls, due to our lackluster tepid faith replaced by pride vainglory and lust for sins of the flesh

  • @kellygraye4832
    @kellygraye4832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly most Catholics don't care not going to mince words

  • @johnwhelan1193
    @johnwhelan1193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real sister lucia was kept locked away, then when she died her body was the real sister.
    the imposter just disappeared into back round.

    • @deniseb4426
      @deniseb4426 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are crazy in the head.

    • @robertthaler2363
      @robertthaler2363 ปีที่แล้ว

      From the convent itself,there is a listing number 265 that shows Lucia's death notice of name, birth date and death date and it was stated as 1949

    • @catholic3dod790
      @catholic3dod790 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@robertthaler2363
      Not 1949. It was actually before 1960.

  • @jamesbrother9597
    @jamesbrother9597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chicken ribs

  • @rosalindaarquiza4028
    @rosalindaarquiza4028 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am a fatima crusader

  • @marypalicke2387
    @marypalicke2387 ปีที่แล้ว

    Infiltration

  • @bazzadebear8012
    @bazzadebear8012 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why don't they just tell people what is in the Fatima message... That's why I think religion sucks!

  • @binyamin3716
    @binyamin3716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cardinal ratzinger was not a defender of faith ...he just acted like king henry the viii
    First he acted as lover of tradition and openly trampled under foot the one true faith...
    BUT GOD USED IT FOR THE GOOD OF PEOPLE WHO SEARCHED FOR THE TRUTH...some ended up in finding the treasure and perservering in it admidst people thinking them as mad men ... but a large part into the prison of blind obedience for the grandeur of latin mass without one true faith ...salt without essence !!
    Reistance group is salt without essence

    • @melitamanint3893
      @melitamanint3893 ปีที่แล้ว

      That all may be true. God does take all to use for His good.
      The spirit of what Vatican II was supposed to be is still honorable. Making the Mass more accessible by allowing for the vernacular. Call and response for more activity from the laity. Even allowing people to feel free to lift their hands in praise when they genuinely feel the Holy Spirit.
      The reality for many parishes are half to mostly empty pews with near one-third of those attending weekly believing Jesus is present.
      Poor catchesis, wanting to keep up with the political narrative of the day, priests not having the right form/matter/intentions when celebrating Mass, taking away the onus on the believer that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow via removing the tabernacle from either the altar itself or near the altar and the communion rail, changing the Liturgy to be more in line with Protestants (not throwing shade, just an observation), placing academics of the faith higher than the mystery of the faith, allowing musicians to be closer to altar which is a distraction, putting good works ahead of faith, not encouraging a good examination of conscience and a good, frequent confession, and I’m sure a few more are failings post Vatican II. It’s a bit easier to understand how traditionalists can be a bit bitter.
      It is my personal opinion that the Holy Father has his hands relatively tied by those who elected him, and he feels like he has to make good on it. It is my assumption that if these are times of the chastisement, then it would probably weigh quite heavily on the Holy Father when the Church is in true persecution.

  • @bazzadebear8012
    @bazzadebear8012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All sounds demonic to me!

  • @df6580
    @df6580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The difference between Roman Catholicism and Jesus Christ, is that Jesus never did or does anything in secret. Jesus reveals his secrets to his prophets and they in turn tell His people before it happens. Roman Catholicism is not from God. They serve a different god.

    • @abbyrock5684
      @abbyrock5684 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wrong. Buddy, take your hate somewhere else.

    • @teresaoftheandes6279
      @teresaoftheandes6279 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's clear you are here because you think it could be The One True Church founded by Jesus Christ, Son of God, Son of Mary.😇

    • @abbyrock5684
      @abbyrock5684 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@teresaoftheandes6279 I'm here because the Catholic Church IS The One True Church founded by Jesus Christ, Son of God, Son of Mary.😇

    • @DAIHSSMITH
      @DAIHSSMITH ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about praying in secret? Did he not instruct us to do that? 🤔

    • @abbyrock5684
      @abbyrock5684 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jesus says, “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”