Germans Have To Pay HOW Much To Have A Baby?? 😲🇩🇪 Germany vs. USA
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After moving to Germany and living in Germany, we had a baby in Germany! And the big question we keep getting is, "how much does it cost to have a baby in Germany?" Well, today we answer that question along with a lot of other costs that are associated with having a baby and compare them between Germany and the US! 😊
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00:00 - Video Starts
1:16 - Pet Peeve of Mine
2:17 - Expenses 1
4:56 - Priceless
6:28 - Expenses 2
8:43 - Expenses 3
9:29 - Expenses 4
12:26 - Bloopers
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-Fun- sad fact: The baby formula in the US *is* the exact same as in Germany because the US is importing it in huge quantities from Germany at the moment. There has been no baby formula produced for months now in the US due to safety concerns after several baby deaths. And there are only two production plants in the whole USA, which are both closed at the moment.
Yup, the baby formula shortage a really sad thing right now in the states
At least it made me somehow proud or glad that we (Germans) are able to help our American friends by sending baby formula. Was a topic in the news when they showed the packages delivered to the US airbase at Ramstein to transport it to the US. Reminds me somehow about the fact when the US people helped us with care packages after WW2.
Great opportunity for wet nurses to become rich.
Yes, but the FDA decided to reduce the poison in baby food to a healthy dosis and probably will serve the market soon again. Bon appetit!
I had a colleague in one of my former employers plant in China. I am retired now and he changed company. We still stay inn touch. They had their first baby, a daughter, two years ago. One day he asked my if I could buy a certain Germany formula brand and send it to him. I asked why and the reply was that Chinese parents don't trust Chinese brands due to contamination. The German formally is sold in China but way more expensive. So I did some research on the things to consider. Price in Germany, shipping costs, custom tolls in China (he did that part). What took me longest was to find a supplier that gave me the longest shelf life. The shelf life is usually 6 months and I wanted to longest possible.
So overall even with all the added costs for shipping and tolls it was still cheaper to ship it to China. Now you might ask how much did I ship? 18 boxes of 800g and to took 5 weeks to ship.
You forgot to tell the audience that you GET Money from the goverment to have children. Kindergeld. 219€ per month for the first and second child each, 225 for the fourth and 250€ for any additional child.
Ya, I was still just trying to talk about the costs of having a baby, but you’re definitely correct! It’s a perk!
@@PassportTwoYou should definitely make a video where you talk about these "perks". I bet the few Americans watching will be more "mindblown" by the fact that they get monthly money for the child from the state than the already known fact that giving birth here doesn't bankrupt anyone. ;)
Skip baby 1-4 and go direct to version 5. 😉
@@Gert-DKyes, directly fivefold, one wash...LOL
And also keep in mind that the Kindergeld has been increased by the start of this year, to 250€ per month for EVERY child, no matter if it's your first or your fifth
I'm very much content with having been born in Germany, however I'd probably also be if I was born in many other Western European countries such as the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Luxemburg, France or Belgium.
I was really lucky to have been born in such a wealthy country and I wouldn't want to give up any of the benefits of the EU and the Schengen area.
Those are some great options! Love all those countries! 😊
I love to live in Europe, especially now as an adult, but I think if you family isn't struggeling money wise, growing up in the US can be awesome too.
Couldn't have said it better.
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@@connectingthedots100 Spain unfortunately has some huge issues with workless people and because some idiots think its good to plant avocados they drain the allready dry land so water supply is a big issue as well.
I myself would have no issue to be born in most countrys even quite poor ones however I wouldn't want to be born in the US and most lands that a big asshole is making the people suffer ;)
Or maybe I would have wanted to be born in the US just to be able to become President and change something for the better.... well I could stil become Governour like Arnie and change one state after another ;)
I strongly believe that children enjoy a better life in Germany/Europe. Children become independent from their parents at an early age because they can walk, play, bike or take public transportation just about everywhere. I heard that it was different in the States way back, but now they completely depend on adults until the get their own drivers license. I am glad that I grew up in Germany.
The 10 euros per day in hospital applies to all over 18 year olds, except for childbirth.
There is a maximum limit of 280 euros per year.
That's right. I was in hospital for 8 weeks and payed 280 Euro. Included were doctors, medicin, bed, 3 meals per day, water and coffee as much as I liked to have. As I have no private insurance I could "only" choose between 4 meals a day (3 meals plus a huge "salat plate").
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Funny thing from my last two stays at hospital - the first time around, they stopped having coffee at 4PM, pointing out that the caffeine was not good for night rest. I rolled my eyes realizing they still had hot water for tea which everyone could use to make black tea. I didn't say anything, though, but someone apparently pointed it out, because the next time, they had done away with free choice of teas and infusions and only served one herbal infusion option ready-made.
But the 10 Euros per day really only pay "room and board", so to speak, the doctor, medicine etc. are covered by your health insurance.
@@Cadfael007 I'd love love love a hospital that offered salad plates. The ones I've been to are all simple carb+sauce+cheese/sketchy meat x 3. Last time I had the nurses hunt for all the veggies n fruit they could find. Like, they'd come back with a tomato or some leftover bean salad. A little like hunters and gatherers. 😅
And, even further, if the deductibles and co-pays in a year reach 2% of your yearly income, you don't have to pay any more. It is even only 1% if you have a chronic disease (but your doctor has tell that to the insurance company, just being diagnosed with a clearly chronic disease is not enough).
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Wow! Such a neat story! Thanks for sharing 😃
In many cases in the U.S. the insurance premiums may be initially cheaper than in Germany, but if you take into consideration that a lot of the healthcare plans won't kick in, until you've already spent 4 or 5K per person out of pocket, then have additional co-pays with each doctor visit or procedure, that definitely changes things. 4 or 5 K is a lot of money for a lot of people here in the U.S. before health insurance kicks in and it starts all over again, with each new year. I know of a guy who had a heart transplant several years ago, but recently died, due to complications. That family's medical bills are a horror show. I feel so bad for them.
At the age of 80 my dad had heart problems. He went to the local doctor. He send him instantly to the ER. It was critical, but they stabilized him. He had a failed heart valve. He had to spend a week in the local hospital waiting for his surgery, while they did several scans, x-ray or mri whatever it was. He was transported to the university hospital in Cologne. There were more scans. As far as i know THE german specialist for this kind of surgery did the surgery. He spend a week recovering in the university hospital. He was transported back to our local hospital, where he spend some time recovering. After that he went two weeks to a rehabilitation clinic.
Total bill was 210€. Everything mentioned before included: transportation, hospital stays, treatments, scans, everything.
there is even more to Health insurances in Germany. German insurances are not allowed to ask for your case history. If you want to change your insurance you don't have to tell them that you have expensive complications rising their costs. But the insurances don't incur everything. You have to pay in addition for medicine or some medical treatment like physiotherapy. Mostly because the pharma industry is claiming astronomically high costs for certain medicines in the treatment of cancer, liver failiure and heart diseases that the health insurances have to cover.
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I am a double grandfather now, a grandson and granddaughter 11 days apart. When I listen to the discussions of my sons and wives about diaper costs then within Germany there are big differences between the brands ob up to 11 €-cts per diaper between the most expensive (the P&G brand) and other brands (like the DM brand).
Both of my sons got a lot of handdown clothes and other items like toys, strollers, travel beds, etc. As we did when my sons where babies. Fun fact We lived in the US for 3 years and when we moved back home we gave the strollers and the travel bed that we brought from Germany to our neighbors who just expected their first child. They used it on all the 3 children.
I am actually happy to be a German. Can I judge? Yes, as mentioned above I lived in the US and for shorter periods in Belgium and Italy. Work got me to many other countries. If you ask me to choose, maybe most western or northern European countries would be fine too.
Hello. You forgot an important point, which changed the costs even more in favor of Germany. The child benefit. I didn't know that there would be that in the USA. That's at least 219 euros per month and at least until the child is 18. I think that has to be in such a video.
Ya, I was just wanting to talk about the actual costs, but you are right! That’s a huge perk in Germany!
@@PassportTwo UK does it too
@@PassportTwo cuz the government here needs future tax-payers which the US seem to avoid in not cutting cost for birth🤨
Parents in the US get a child tax credit which is a similar amount per month. This year it's $3600 annually for kids under 6 y/o, and $3000 for under 17 y/o I believe. (But people who have very very high incomes do not qualify.)
@@HomeWorkouts_LS This is also in Germany a thing!
I was always told that European prices were higher. It is sad to find out that we've been lied to.
I would probably like to be born in Germany or Switzerland because of the overall quality of life
Our kid is now 13 month old, and we try a lot of articles. The articles from DM are better on some things like the Creme (Babylove Windelcreme) & the diapers from Babylove also. And they are also cheaper. Have a try 😉
I never bought the expensive Pampers stuff.
Low price level is easy to explain: German consumers are rather price smart resulting in fierce competition between stores and brands.Something gone for quite sometime in the US.
you are right to compare pampers to pampers with the brand being US-american. It's strange that they are so much cheaper here. Even though I prefer "babylove" (house brand of Rossmann).
If I could choose Norway, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Andorra, France, Sweden, Finland... probably in that order
I think if I wasn't born in Germany i would either choose The Netherlands or Austria.
I'm British and spent 5years in Germany working! Married a local lass and we moved back to the UK.
I miss Germany for the way things just worked. There is a work ethic and stuff that needed to get done just got done, efficiently!
What I didn't like about German was it's black and white answers to complicated situations, there was no in-between answer, you either fitted or didn't. Contract haggling with your internet provider where you the customer actually wanted to give them additional business? Not a hope! Very odd but in my wife's words, "typically Deutsch!"
I dislike many things here in the UK, but also equally love our Britishness! My wife likes it more as well in most respects, bit is happy to point out our foibles & where Germany trump's UK.
We have 3 kids, all born C-section, 1st one was an emergency C-section which meant the other two were strongly suggest to us on safety for mother and child reasons! We had two kids in UK (free apart from £90+ on car parking fees) and the middle son in Germany (€38.20 for parking, but we lived walking distance so not a comparison!!).
The only difference was the hospital food in UK was better than the German hospital, however the close up of my wife's 2nd C-section in Germany was superior as she was up and mobile without pain much much sooner. Her first emergency C-section left her in pain for month's afterwards. The 3rd c-sect was planned and she recovered ok, but not as quickly as Germany. All had epidural's after attempting natural birth.
Both births were effectively free and we definitely made use of hand-me-downs on clothes, now paying that fwd to my sister's and friends! Do I consider America to be the land of the free? Nope, land of the owned more like! It's a shame, it could be so much better but for the greed of the corps and the political setup that panders to their donors!
As for the question at the end. Where would I want to have been born? New Zealand or any of the Scandinavian nations or Iceland! Australia is also up there as are the majority of European nations! I am glad I was born in Europe! National healthcare is for everyone, not just the rich!
Urgh - that is a difficult question, as I quite like it here in Germany. Given, that I am already 54 makes it even harder, as some countries have changed during my lifetime. When I was young, Ireland was superweird, no birth control allowed etc. so I would have not liked to be born there, though I might like living there these days.
When I was born, there was still a dictator in Spain, until 1977, when I was 9. So not sure I would have liked my youth spent there. In Switzerland women got their suffrage only in 1971, and in one specific region it took them even way longer, so not sure, I would have liked it there.
Denmark or Sweden, maybe then - but I do not like their actual right wing tendencies, same goes for the Netherlands.
Italy? Too macho. Greece? When I was born there was a military junta ruling there. Poland? Too backwards (what was Ireland early on is Poland today).
The UK? Too weird. And I am not so fond of a two party system country. Same goes for the US. South America? Too unstable. Africa? Same - and women's rights are not really a strong side in both continents. Australia? Never, huge spiders, deadly animals, and the heat in the outback would kill me. New Zealand? I think I could be tempted.
And on to Asia - most of Asia has abyssmal female rights situations. Japan - well, the position of the woman is not exactly attractive in that country, either. And let's not even bother to mention India.
North Korea then? Are you kidding me??
No, I am quite happy here in Germany. I could maybe just live with Austria (though they would not like me there) or with France (I like France's approach to childcare, and their tendency to give their governments the finger now and then - so that politicians do not forget for whom they are supposed to work. Take note, Christian Lindner: It is NOT the industry!)
Are we perfect here in Germany? No, and neither were we perfect when I was born. But I am so used to what I have experienced, I know I can live through that kind of cr@p, and I am not sure I would like the other cr@p.
So there you got it, a very reluctant: Austria or France.
Come on, to fulfill our German stereotype you could have found something negative about Austria and France as well. :) But I have to agree. I wonder - Australia also sounds interesting, but I know too less about it. At least it's still on my bucket list for a vacation to get some personal impressions...
@@Opa_Andre Die Ösis haben eine 6 in Kriegsschuldaufarbeitung und Frankreich - streikt zuviel ... besser?
OH, and I forgot, I quite like Canada, but Canada is too cliché for a European to emigrate to.
@@franhunne8929 😂😂
Hm ja hab ich gedtern schon angefangen zu sehen. Aber nicht weiter
I think I am really lucky to have been born in Germany
That is the formula I used with my kids. That was years ago, but in NV and CenTex I would spend $25-$50 a week for formula. Price increased as their appetite increased.
About price comparison: The Weleda Cream, though popular, is a pricey one. Normally, you pay a lot less for that stuff. I mean, it's almost 80 EUR per litre! Other popular ones are a lot cheaper, easily less than half the price per litre. Anything from 15 to 30 EUR/l would be normal, the 30 EUR being for brand names.
Next - child care: In Hamburg, you get 5 hours per day (up to 25 hours per week) for free from age one. You can book child care up to 12 hours per day and use the city's coupon system to get discounts. So if you have to have more than five hours because of work, they can fill out a form for you to give the city. And the city will pay the brunt of that cost for the hours needed. You have to pay 212 EUR per month for the youngest child with the full 12 hours, and get a 2/3 discount for the second-youngest child. I can't remember the discount for the third-youngest, but I think the forth and so on are completely free. If you do not earn that much, you can get further discount on the rates, up to 90% to be exact. So you might pay just a few EUR for your child. And if you need less hours, you pay less. There is a similar system for school kids up to the age of 12 or 14, and as there are a minimum af five hours in school, you can book the remaining hours (up to 7 per day). And the sibling account is applicable here, as well, also if you have one child in school and one in Krippe or Kita. (Just google for the Elternbeitrag and Kita-Gutschein in Hamburg, the info is all online).
The last question is pretty tough, seeing as I like living in Germany a lot, but I guess it would be some skandinavian nation maybe. Or Scotland. Just nothing too hot ;)
It's cheaper in Germany because the Bundestag is encouraging baby making because the birthrate is so low...maybe? 🤔
I'm an American born on Okinawa, Japan, but where would I like to have been born? Dunno, because my island is pretty cool since it's Japan's version of Hawaii. Also, Mr. Miyagi is from Okinawa, too!
Kita (Hort) in Switzerland is one of the most expensive things if you have a child. One month, five days a week cost around 2500 swiss francs. As for the pampers, they are 32 cents.a piece
Oh yes sweet expensive childcare in Switzerland 😭 Makes your Heart and your Wallet bleed 🤯 luckily there is Support for that in the Social system, at least i got a Lot of Support, while living there. Still Hurts to hear those Numbers
As a German, i would liked to be born in norway, Finnland,sweden,denmark, in that Order.
some of youre mentioned brands are on the higher end and its still cheaper....thats wild
Baumwollwindel, zwei Kinder hab ich damit gewickelt und Papierwindeln hatten wir immer nur wenn wir unterwegs waren. Da die Windeln, einmal gekauft (ich habe viele von meinen Kollegen geschenkt bekommen) können immer wieder verwendet werden und entlasten die Restmülltonne ganz erheblich.
Das stimmt schon: Papierwindeln erzeugen eine Menge Müll. Aber Baumwollewindeln müssen (heiß) gewaschen werden.
Don't forget to cmpare incomes. In the US you're almost considered poor if you earn less than 100.000 $ per year.
The same price gap appear to Germans in countries where average earnings are less than in Germany - prices for goods are as well.
Global Companies sell their goods for prices often not only calculated by production cost but by rates they can expect the customers in a specific country are able and willing to pay.
In the state of Oregon, USA, without insurance to birth twins via c section with a lot of complications, it would cost around 250k dollars. (I literally added it all up). With insurance it still leaves us with around 25k bill. This is ridiculous.
Germany wins again.
There are a lot of countries I like, but for an easier life and upbringing I choose Italy, just because all my aunts and uncles live there (my father was Italian). It is just for the convenience of having family around and still live in a (western?) European country.
Always so excited about a new video! And, as usual, it’s great!
Ireland? Scotland? England? I’m so grateful for our Christian heritage, though, and where I grew up, so I guess I’ve never thought about that, lol!
When visiting the US for traveling a few years ago we actually regretted not taking baby formula for the whole 2 months (and this was way before the current shortage). Rough numbers: in German we paid 15 euros for the big pack but in Germany we paid 60 USD (!) for a medium pack (about 3/4 of the content). In hindsight it would have justified an additional suitcase in the flight just to transport it.
Also: daycare in Hessen: We paid ~150eur/month+50 for food for age 0-3, which was on the lower end (avg prob around 200-250) and then Kindergarten (German meaning) age 3-6 is free (+50 for food) here but used to be ~100 I think until the fees got abolished like 3 years ago.
In RLP mostly the kindergardens are free, you only have to pay for the meals
Ich wohne an der Schweizer Grenze und wenn man das mit Deutschland vergleicht würde ich niemals Kinder in der Schweiz haben wollen. In Deutschland gibt es Elternzeit und Elterngeld. Alle medizinischen Leistungen sind von der gesetzlichen Krankenversicherung abgedeckt. Es gibt Kindergeld unabhängig vom Einkommen. Die Kitas sind meistens kostenlos. Babyprodukte sind sehr günstig vor allem in DM oder Rossmann. Darum fahren am Wochenende viele Schweizer zum Einkaufen zu uns. Ja das Einkommen dort ist höher als bei uns, das gleicht es aber nicht aus, da dort die Lebenshaltungskosten viel höher sind. Alles Gute für euch.
Thank you for the informational video! It makes me feel better about the lower pay (for our industries at least) in some European countries - since my husband & I are searching for EU jobs.
Good luck with your search!
I hope, you will have a great time in Europe!
As someone mentioned, you may have a lower income in Europe, but live in Europe is cheaper, especially since most of us aren’t into the whole „keeping up with the Jones“-thing. Having a nice house is all right, but having more time to spend on things one loves/with loved ones? Even better in my opinion.
@@jennyh4025 There's a housing crisis in Germany (like in the US) and most aren't able to "keep up with the jones'" even if they wanted to, so I'm not worried about that. But yes, my vacation time would greatly increase from what I have in the US now :) Also, I'd technically be moving far away from loved ones, but I get what you mean haha
Also you'll receive money from the State (Elterngeld aswell as Kindergeld) in Germany which helps a lot with your expenses.
Usually, I don't watch baby / children related videos as I'm not concerned, but your price comparison to Oklahoma was very interesting. First time I heard of the baby formula shortage. It's a shame; that shouldn't happen in a modern country. In fact, it shouldn't happen anywhere, and it should be affordable.
Would I like to be born elsewhere (than Germany)? I can't tell. Sometimes I'm thinking of Spain, Portugal, southern France or southern Italy. Warmer climate, you know. Considering the various social systems, that leaves France. But, on the other hand, I could go there if I wanted to. I'm an EU citizen after all, and that's what counts.
Nice video. I would like to see a comparison of the ecological footprint per capita in the USA and in Germany.
The answer to your question: A wealthy one! Because it's the best way to avoid poverty... 😁
At least in all Hospitals in Germany i know. If you pay for the family the 10€ cost per day is allready included.
I think a factor is that Germany perfected the discounter model. One reason for US chains to usually fold in Germany. Now, these products are certainly not the typical ones to be influenced by discounter prices, but Babyvita for example is the "store brand" (don't know if it really is the store brand, but it is the off-brand brand they sell) of the Rewe company. Baby products that aren't off-brand, or at least not usually sold in discounter stores, will be not as cheap, but of course they still aren't totally removed from the discounter brands.
I would have liked to have been. Born in Norway cause I speak Norwegian now😂😅
That definitely would be nice! 😅
In Berlin you don't have to pay only for the food in Kita. And in school you start paying from third grate (food and busticket for free)
I'd choose Liechtenstein as a birthing place. It's a cool place and actually the only country to have sent 80 soldiers to a war and returned with 81, having had made a friend on the way back ;)
Didn’t you apply for child benefit (Kindergeld) when you were born? Or did you mention that in the video and I didn’t notice?
In alphabetical order: Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway. Those are the only countries with similar cultures of democratic political and intellectual sanity that I could imagine feeling at home in.
Norwegian here. Would love to live in NZ
Try adding the great and glorius Australia to that list.
I think I would like to have been born on the isle of Lewis and Harris in Scotland, because of a great revival that occurred during that time. Your aunt Cheryl said she would have liked to have been in born Ireland because her Irish heritage.
You look at the cost. But do you know how the system works? In Belgium our sickness funds are started by the unions. So it is no insurance but a non profit organisation, still are.
Can’t believe that the conversion rate between dollars and euros is 1:1 again!!!!!
Per capita healthcare cost in the USA is about 11.5k dollars, in germany it stands about 5.8k per capita. So even the tax dollars going towards healthcare in the USA are higher than in Germany, not the other way around.
Why my kids got formula, we got special anti alergig one, there have been people from asia buying entire shelfs, so it got limited.
Some German health insurances even offer you a 80-100% refund on the Bill for the family rooms.
born in Bolivia and happy with it while having one of the most powerfull pasports of the world - the german one. 194 visa free countrys
I wonder how much Kindergeld (child benefit) you get per child in Oklahoma and for how long? Do you get it also until your child is 25 if he or she is still in training/education/study? And a question for you Donnie - are you planning to also take parental leave as long as you're eligible (which is up to 3 vrs)?
Ummm…none 😂 Huge perk in Germany!
You get child tax credit till the child is 17
Parents in the US get a child tax credit which is a similar amount per month. This year it's $3600 annually for kids under 6 y/o, and $3000 for under 17 y/o I believe. (But people who have very very high incomes do not qualify.)
@@annwyche5471 You also get that child text credit in Germany for every child + you get monthly child benefits on your bank account up to the age of 25 (if your child is in education)
@@HannesDroid I'm German, I know 😉 but the question was how long they pay in Oklahoma
With the products presented, you also took the expensive ones. There are much cheaper alternatives than that. I recommend trying out the non-brand items. For cream, I have used Penaten cream for all my children. Is the best (my opinion).
Ya, like I said, I was just trying to find the products that were the same in both countries, but you can definitely find cheaper alternatives in both countries. However, I still think this shows overall, the affordability of these things in Germany vs the US. 😊
Penaten IS a brand-name. A german one.
Penaten is a pretty popular german brand and not a non-brad item :)
@@Leonie0280 Ach was. Did you see the little point after non-brand items?
I am always kinda surprised if people call KiTa fees expensive.
Being in my late 20s, I went to Kindergarten in the German sense of the word in the late 90s.
Back then it really was 4 hours / day at most, no food included and the cost was 65€/ month (Without correcting for all those years of inflation. Only converted from DM to EUR.).
Health Insurance etc. Are Not paid by tax. They are social insurances that are substracted from you salary parallel to you salary tax. Plus unlike tax the employer pays the same amount
Every body sit down before you fall down - in Australia (at least 30 years ago) there were NO hospital charges for our two daughters. Before you all emigrate, we do have a large problem, due to covid, at the moment with room in our public hospitals.
You had your Rumplfeld, we had our Rumple Stiltskin. Both steal.
Pre owned baby clothes: I fully agree. Some argument:
- as the fabric is most like adult pieces, they are same durabel. BUT - babies are growing so fast - most clothes my babies wore only some 4 times before too small. So you might imagine, many babies my wear those.
- as babies skins are sensitive, any responsible mom will wash each piece before. If you take used clothes, they are washed several times - NO chemicals are included 😀
- for me new baby clothes are more for the future mom than necessary 😉
As far as i know there is no co-payment for hospital stays when you give birth, but i could be wrong...It's been some time...🙃
Lol okay though I don't know how is works.
The price difference in formula, nappies, wipes, etc could be because of the US habit of suing everybody for everything. Companies are forced to spend a fortune on liability insurance. Years ago an American lawyer told me that one of the manufacturers of the MMR vaccine sells the same stuff in Europe for 1$ and in the US for 10$. The difference is the cost of insurance.
My country of choice to have been born in would've been Switzerland. If you've ever visited the country you'll understand why. From my purely "western European" perspective it gets as close to perfect as possible.
I've been there but I don't understand why. Cost of living is too high there, no thanks.
Regarding Diapers: DM diapers are nearly as good as Pampers and cost only a half. Only for travels we choose Pampers.
I was going to say England because my mother was born there but then I thought that it would be cooler to have been born in Scotland where my mother’s father was born and raised (although his was not an easy upbringing based on his class and the era he was born into)
Bit of a mistake: The taxes in germany is actually lower than in the US. If you add for example sales tax including the cost of insurance etc. you spend far more in taxes.
Do you have anything to back this up in terms of a source? There’s just no way this is true. VAT alone is typically a full 10 points higher than even the highest combines sales tax in US states, 19% VAT vs typically ~0%-9% combined state sales tax in the US depending on the state (there is no national sales tax in the US). Taxes are far higher in Germany and we see it on our paychecks every month 😂
@@PassportTwo Saw it in this video: th-cam.com/video/aNghg1Y-WIc/w-d-xo.html Starts at around 1:15 if you don't want to watch the entire thing..
You do not have to pay hospital co-pay for the first 6 days after childbirth.
I think in Sweden you pay 12 euro or 120 kronor per day food included and bith is free
Prices for baby formula is always way higher in the US
Is it really? That’s a shame…this is crazy how big the price difference is!
@@PassportTwo I was surprised too when we moved, I knew the prices were higher but some of the little cans are over $25 and I was used to the 4-5€ box
I can’t imagine choosing any other country than Wales. ❤ 🏴
Here’s a video suggestion- about how easy or difficult they make it for women to have children in Germany. As a singer, it was not possible unless I changed my job. That’s not a financial cost, so I don’t know why I watched this lol!
Evening! A mini-Lauren would be lovely!
@@sisuguillam5109 hi Sisu! Oh, I wish I had! I am so happy for people who did it, like Passport Two and the Black Forest Family.
@@LaureninGermany So am I. And being an aunt or honorary aunt isn't bad either.
May the gods bless your Lottotipschein!
Where to be born? Switzerland would be been no bad choice, being a wealthy country, having great landscapes and a well-organized health and pension insurance system. Liechtenstein could also have been a smart move, especially since it is so small. And Luxemburg would have me given a multilingual education like Switzerland, but within the EU. But far more important than the country are the parents you are born to. (And in some countries unfortunately also their ethnicity - I would rather not liked to be born as child of Roma parents in the 1960s in Switzerland.)
Theres also thsi Tax is for the entire staate of germany and not like the US every diffrent Staate has they own Taxes they can make. There also a lot free things you get as Gift for you an your from Stores like DM or Rossmann when you register yourself , when you have become a Mother they send you Product samles , and Codes for cheaper Baby products. They all free.
Btw i will become Aunt for a Girl soon she's awaited for Oktober were really excited
Having a baby in Germany is NOT free..you just pay it in your health insurance. I was a German civil servant so had private health insurance. So I got to see ALL the medical bills because they are sent to you and not your health insurance company. If privately insured, you pay the bill and then claim the money back from your private health insurance company. If you are not privately health insured, you do NOT get to see the bills in Germany, they get sent straight to your insurance company (so most peopledo not know how much it costs). As a German civil servant with private health insurance, my pregancy, birth and post-birth care medical bills in 2005 cost around 15,000 euro (my emergency c-section and hospital birth bill cost around 6000 euro of that total). Of course the cost us higher for privately insured and this subsidises the non privately health insured.
i live in northern germany and had a c- section. i pay roughly 4,500€ . we had an emergency so the price is a little higher.
Why didn't your insurance cover it? I never heard of that before
Wtf, das bezahlt man nicht selbst.
@@Leonie0280 meine Versicherung und die Beihilfe geben mir das Geld wieder, ich muss es aber vorstrecken, wenn ich es halbwegs pünktlich bezahlt haben will
@@scofield3467 Sie ist Beamtin!
You will get 210 euros per month for that baby until the age of 18, or if he/she is studying maximal until 25. One condition: you have the spend the the money on he child.
My daughter is going to KiTa since she is 6 months and we plan to so until she gets 4 (she will be going to school at that age). She is going 2 days a week and are paying around 1000 Euro a month (food included). I have to mention that the state returns 500 Euro a month.
Very interesting insight! Thanks so much for sharing 😃 I hadn’t seen any numbers besides what I shared so this is very interesting to learn.
Einschulung mit 4? Lasst doch Kinder Kinder sein.
@@scofield3467 Kinder können nicht Kinder in der Schule sein? Schulen sind der Ort, um neue Freunde und Lebenserfahrungen zu machen.
@@Aelsenaer 4 kommt mir aber auch sehr jung vor. Ich wurde mit 6 eingeschult (geburtstag im Sommer, nach dem Stichtag) Ich denke 5 wäre das normale Alter dafür.
Mit 4 sollte man noch unbeschwert und zwanglos Freunde im Kindergarten/der KiTa machen dürfen. Für Lebenserfahrung Schule und den damit verbundenen Zwängen ist ein Jahr später immernoch genug Zeit.
@@IISheireenII
Das gilt in der Tat für Deutschland. Wo wir leben sind Kinder ab 5 Jahren Schulpflichtig (Niederlande).
Are you going to get a dual german citizinship and passport.😊😊
It strikes me that when Germans live in the USA and point out something where Germany compares unfavourably with the USA, they do so bluntly and matter-of-factly.
However, most Americans comparing Germany and the USA are extremely apologetic when comparing the USA unfavorably with Germany (or any other country, really).
Thank you for your fact-based approach.
I did not expect that.
Really? 😅 I feel like most I watch pander to German audiences and just tell them everything they do is amazing and America sucks 😂 Therefore, I try to be an equal opportunity critiquer and praiser depending on the facts! Glad you enjoyed that aspect and perspective 😊
@@PassportTwo It's sad when folks pander to any audience, whether they are their own countrymen or not. 👀
I love people that create informative and entertaining content. And you certainly do just that.
You are helping us to stay sane in these mad mad times.
Keep up the good work. ❤
Donnie, your're wrong with your statement that the health insurance costs are higher in GER than in the US. Check out the video about that topic from the channel @black forest family.
According to the very well researched content, it's quite similar for one person being slightly cheaper in GER.
Put in the family coverage for all your kids and you end up being by far far cheaper. That's because you don't pay extra premium per person in the public health insurance. It's a flat rate premium
Im not wrong. Listen again! I said, „WE do pay significantly higher taxes in Germany and OUR health insurance costs are significantly higher in Germany.“ I know without a doubt we are paying HUNDREDS of euros more amounts than we paid in the US. I’m not saying that’s the case for everyone. I said „we“ and „us“ because I know what we paid/pay.
What about the 'Kindergeld' in Germany? Will you ever mention IT?
Hey Donnie, great video, I have an unrelated question though: I've been wondering about the word "Ami", i've always felt it's an endearing nickname for americans without any negative connotation and i've met americans that'll call themselves Amis.
On the other hand i've also seen americans that were offended by that word and think it's a slur, similar to "kraut" for germans.
Having lived in Germany for a while now you've surely must have been called "Ami" by someone already, how do you feel about that word?
What I think of first when I hear "Ami", I think of the "Ami go home!" slogan from the political left. Mabye shop owners near US bases call them "Ami" lovingly, but that certainly is not widespread, it's more usually used in sentences like "Stupid Amis, voting for Trump" or "Amis are spying on us and you are surprised?"
Haha, ya, I've heard Ami go both ways. I think part of the problem with "Ami" being a hurtful word, is that the people hearing the word need to first know the word is derogatory for it to be effective at being hurtful 😂 I had NEVER heard this word before coming to Germany and have never heard it outside of Germany. Therefore, this word literally has no meaning or emotion to me. If someone calls me that, it doesn't bother me at all. I also have started calling myself an Ami and other Americans Amis because I think it is a funny! But then again, people who get offended by it may be the types that easily get offended at everything...and I am not that type...😂😂
A German speaking: I didn't know that "Ami" is a hurtful word for you. It is an abbreviation of the word "Amerikaner" (american) without positive or negative connotation by itself.
Did he say: "Higher health insurance cost in Germany"?
What we actually pay for our health insurance monthly is more expensive than what we were paying in the US. That’s what I said 😊
@@PassportTwo I am speechless. Just read up on the German system. I must say it is antiquated. Here in Danmark we had a similar system until 1973. It was scraped, and no pay for health insurance. Admin took way too much of the money. All is over the tax now.
I saw, the insurance in Germany is about 14-16% of your income. Why not just take the money via tax? Then you don't use money on admin and profit. Then again, the Germans never rides the same day they saddle the horse.
Check up the Danish health system, it's actually cheap pr. person. About the half of what a US patient cost. Was the only statistic I can remember. BTW, it's actually a US survey that came up with that number. That's another discussion, but I am stunned the Germans still are in this 1960 style health system. I have been neighbor to Germany for 60 years, I had no idea it was like this.
@@PassportTwo with or without co-pays in case of...?
@@Steeler-wg5zo co pays are not insurance costs. It's what you pay on top of insurance.
@@steemlenn8797 yep, but in Germany insurances cover full cost - factor that in.
I've read so many comments from Americans claiming it is cheaper to live in certain areas of the US than anywhere in Europe. I have no idea what makes them say that.
I'm actually quite happy to be born in Germany, but New Zealand or Australia would have been cool :D
There are definitely give and takes! For example, all of these things are cheaper, but in Oklahoma, homes are significantly more affordable, eating out is cheaper, gas is significantly more affordable, etc. I haven’t done a full in depth comparison yet to see total expenses if our lives are more affordable here or there, but it isn’t black and white cheaper or more expensive for everything in one place. 😊
@@PassportTwo Sorry, but the homes in Oklahoma are made of wood, in Europe they are mostly made of stone. Except in Scandinavia where the houses are also mostly made of wood (in villages and suburb ares of the towns), but that are high tech houses with very good isolation. In the US most houses have no or poor isolation because of the low energy costs. Yes, gas and electric energy is much cheaper in the USA, but this makes them the biggest air polluters in the world per capita while China are the biggest air polluters in total.
@@veryincognito6776 Don't say "Scandinavia" when you're actually only talking about Sweden... There aren't any homes at all in Denmark(Perhaps except Bornholm, where Rønne has a "Svenskerbyen" neighborhood), made out of wood - IF a house is made from wood, it's a "Sommerhus" - a "vacation house".
@@eidodk I was recently on vacation in Central Finland. I saw these "Schwedenhäuser" a lot. And the last time I looked at the map, Finland was still part of Scandinavia.
These types of houses are increasingly being built as prefabricated houses in Germany. One of my co-workers lives in one.
I mean, it's true if you exclude any outsides costs like education, transportation or medical fees. Some areas in the US are incredibly cheap to live in.
The better question is why anyone would want to live there willingly.
I would say Germany bc a lot of my ancestors came from Germany
Regarding the baby products i would come to the same conclusion as in general to shopping. In general Germans are not as focused on brands as Americans and do often compare the price of high quality products to the low price products a the discount supermarkets. So if you do your statistics and math right according to your business administration studies you will get to a different optimal price for your product. And well that’s exactly what you can observe while shopping. I don’t think that transports, customs (of German products in the US) or taxes are the key factor in this case. You can see this aspect, that brand products are even available at discount supermarkets right next to the low price products. Most of the brands wouldn’t consider leaving the discount markets as there are many customers they would reach otherwise. And German customers trust the products safety regulations and food safety standards in the EU. So they even buy low price products as they at least think there is no issue with the products.
Yeah, but you compared a Weleda natural product with some artificially filled stuff. Looked at it this way the American product is overprized tenfold.
I belive that you pay the huge variaty in the US.
10 € per day is for the food.
And think about the monthly kinder geld you get in Germany.
Japan! Fits my personality pretty well :)
Working unpaid overtime and then having to drink yourself silly with your boss?
@@steemlenn8797 LOL, close… but not quite what I had in mind.
... wait until you get to paying for education. Better start saving now if you are living in the US.
There's an episode of Elementary that deals with the baby formula shortage and mafia-esque practices with smuggling it.
Rqotw: In Deutschland natürlich!😊
Und warum? Das kannst du in so ziemlich jedem TH-cam-Video zum Thema Deutschland sehen.😄
For your weekly question: I would have liked to have been born in France as I like their system there.
Older native German here, I would bei happy to be born again in Germany.
I wish I had been born in Germany because then I would live there now. I want to more to Germany go bad, but I don't know how I will ever save enough money.
Hello Patricia how are you doing?
Seecond😂 hand is super
In America, people are in debt from day one of their lives.
Well...no...we've never had any debt
Are you sure that your insurance costs are higher in Germany than you would have to pay in the US? That´s worth another video.