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Biblical Basis of Small Groups Rick Warren
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 เม.ย. 2012
- Lifetogether produces Pastor Rick Warren teaching the biblical basis of small group ministries from the book of Acts and encourages us to minister like the Church that was in Jerusalem.
Very well explained from a master teacher!
this is a solid teaching! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for a very succinct overview.
There is a great new book that explains about this 'Mission for Groups'.
Thought you'd be interested in this
I see what he is trying to do here, however his argument for "temple courts" being plural is an interpretive decision not based on the actual Greek. In both places the Greek simply states the singular "temple". Stretching scripture to make it say what you want it to say....
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I'm sorry but I can't agree to everything Warren said in this video for three reasons basically: 1). When believers started gathering together at Jerusalem God allows a big persecution to bring them apart; 2). Later on God allowed the jews temple to be destroyed by the romans to vanish any idea of having a church- building or a temple; 3). The only methodology or at least the more effective one that was used by God that I see in the bible to bring the massage out was through the home-churches or small groups of people gathering together within the context of a house. The church- building concept or mega church is a big fallacy that started a little over 300 years later after the birth of the church.
As long as Christ is preached...I rejoice. There's no forbidding of it, the temple was the old covenant so thats not a direct condemning of big buildings. Buildings are and can be great "tools"...yes there's a down side and a cost but don't discount some of the great things mega churches can do because they can gather together.
@@3cfamilylife sorry but I think that as consequence of this methodology, which is now a system, the "church" has almost become a combination of a social club and a big business especially for the leadership of the such a call church, and believers have lost almost all identity.
Key words - I think...I don't really care about your opinion of methodology. Methods have and will always change and that can reach new people. (back to the "as long as Christ is preached standard)
I don't think God cares about methods that have the best of kingdom minded intentions (implying they're not anti-biblical and done with a level of excellence) All churches (and the Church) have fallen into bad methodologies over the years no matter the geography, ethnicity, denomination.
To sit back and "pick apart" someone who in "Christian world" has had as much or more success than any other human with good reason and sound teaching and Christ-like living is going to come off as either jealousy, arrogance or both(you REALLY don't think a guy like Rick Warren doesn't sit/kneel and think and pray about their church and its methods?)
Yes big and mega have some negatives but the positives are huge...the way they can resource other churches, leaders they can train, the programs they can specialize in that small, medium, and even large churches just can't because they just don't have the resources.
The really dangerous recent methods have been like the Catholic church recruiting homosexual men to be priest....hasn't turned out well
Another arguably was lots of guys in the 1960's went to seminary to avoid the draft
@@3cfamilylife i think that you don't realize what are the implications of methodology in theology or in the church and our society in general. Firstly each method over time becomes a system; second When we talk about the system we are referring to the functioning and the very nature of the church or our society in a broader sense. That is why jesus opposed to the political and religion system of his time; third as important is the message as the method. Remember that methods will define the nature and functioning of things. That's why believers today lack so much of church identity.
That's why I don't believe in church-buildings or temples. Why? Very simple! Because we are the church and not a building or a such a call temple. But today our religion system says the other way around. That's why we need big building.
That's the reason why the church has become some type of entertainment system for their members and a business organization for their leaders in most cases.
I think you're wrong on "he opposed" the political and religion system. I think he was fulfilling the religious system (Matthew 5:17) and challenged political notions....not a flat out opposition....give to Caesar what is Caesar's (Mark 12:17) would echo that sentiment.
You can "not believe" in church buildings...they still exist and can be a great asset to the Kingdom. There's no forbidding of it in the Bible...does God want us to worship a building? Surely not, but I think he's "just fine" us worshiping in a building, a tent, the woods, a shelter, a high school, a movie theater. What ever is bound or forbidden "in heaven will be loosed on Earth....allows for some liberties doesn't it?
Does today's church maybe try to over do it on "relevance?" Sure, probably because a long time of little relevance
There are some churches that operate like a business...but if you look at your business as caring, reaching and teaching people and you do it well...isn't that a good thing?