What is the Barcan Sentence? | Attic Philosophy

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  • Two logical sentences are central to quantified modal logic - the Barcan and Converse Barcan Sentences. Here, we look at what they are, why they're philosophically contentious, and when they're valid or invalid.
    00:00 - Intro
    01:25 - Ruth Barcan Marcus
    02:25 - Barcan Sentence
    02:52 - Converse Barcan Sentence
    03:47 - Are they true?
    04:01 - Exercise
    04:22 - Worked Answer
    05:30 - Why it’s controversial
    07:19 - When is BS valid?
    10:06 - Nested domains model
    10:43 - Shrinking domains model
    11:12 - When is CBS valid?
    11:30 - Summing up
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ความคิดเห็น • 19

  • @theMelMxshow
    @theMelMxshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting this one! So happy!

  • @FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL
    @FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Attic, are you planning to do videos on predicate logic? Enjoying your vids btw

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, there's some up already (on quantifiers, identity) and more to come soon.

  • @physics_philosophy_faith
    @physics_philosophy_faith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful! Thanks so much!

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Glad you found the videos useful.

  • @seandegan5755
    @seandegan5755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this breakdown.

  • @patrickwithee7625
    @patrickwithee7625 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the necessary limitations on the Necessitation Rule given that the Converse Barcan Sentence can be proven using it?

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a difficult issue in modal logic, probably without an ideal solution. To prove CBF, you need the necessitation rule + classical quantifier rules. The usual move is to change the quantifier rules, rather than the necessitation rule. For if something is a theorem, it's logically required, so how could it fail to be necessary? For example, you can change the quantifier rules from classical to free logic, in effect only allowing instantiation and elimination for existing entities. There's a good explanation here: plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-modal/#QuaModLog

  • @dominiks5068
    @dominiks5068 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for mentioning the Kripke controversy, very interesting/disturbing
    Also, do you think that actualists should accept the Barcan Formula? Or should we abandon either actualism or the Barcan Formula? Thanks

  • @thomaswilliams1129
    @thomaswilliams1129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you weigh-in on the credit between the tag theory and Kripke's causal-historical theory?
    I've read 'Modality and Intensional Languages' and Naming and Necessity, it strikes me that Naming and Necessity is generally a more accessible and slightly more developed work. Marcus tends to stage her 'tag theory' as a response to Quine's interpretation challenge, but Kripke responded explicitly to topics of wider interest; descriptivism, analyticity and a priority, I imagine, cast a wider net over philosophical interests. Not that I don't doubt for a second that sexism was a huge hindrance for Marcus, and mention of Marcus' work should at least preface discussion of Kripke's in my opinion (and also, I have no clue why Kripke didn't mention Marcus in his lectures.)

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always mention Barcan Marcus before Kripke when teaching this. Kripke should have done too - I’m sure he knew her work. So at best, it’s poor scholarship.

  • @Mentat1231
    @Mentat1231 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know I'm late to the party, but it seems to me the rule ¬∀xF ⊨ Ǝx¬F, is problematic. I mean... what if there are no x's at all? It could still be true (perhaps trivially) that ¬∀xF, without there existing an x which is not-F, no?

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's always at least one thing (in logic, the domain is never empty), and it's either F or not-F. So if not everything is F, then at least something is non-F. You're right that, if the domain was allowed to be empty, then the equivalence between the quantifiers disappears.

    • @Mentat1231
      @Mentat1231 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AtticPhilosophy
      Interesting. That makes perfect sense. So then... Couldn't the untoward consequences of the Barcan formula (like the one you mentioned in your video about your daughter having a sibling) actually be a result of this no-empty-domain rule?

  • @stapleman007
    @stapleman007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find the Bacon Sentence tastier and more filling than the Barcan Sentence.

  • @Bunnokazooie
    @Bunnokazooie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "If it's possible that there exists a married bachelor, then there exists someone who is possibly a married bachelor". That one seems fine to me, however,
    "If a married bachelor could have existed, there there exists someone who could be a married bachelor". Oh yeah, that one sounds weird.

    • @AtticPhilosophy
      @AtticPhilosophy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are strange cases, because they're about impossible situations. In classical logic, with the material conditional, all these sentences are true, simply because they have a false antecedent. It's very interesting to think abut what to do with impossible cases - but maybe not the best case to think about for the Barcan sentence!