you are right because it contains facts and no BS, anyone who does DIY projects understandsa that, the more info you get the better, i do maintenance and i keep tellig my helper i do not know everything i learn a lot from watching many videos on youtube the good ones and the bed ones, you can learn much from other peoples mistakes as in what not to do
@@TKCL What class in school would the curriculum support a project as this DIY ice maker? I am enjoying the videos. You might consider using the baseline approach when doing your comparisons such as 2 fans far away makes X lbs more ice than the baseline and 2 fans up close makes Y lbs more ice than baseline. Keep the videos coming.
I love the fact that you're doing actual science. You form a hypothesis, you do an experiment, you collect data, you arrive at a conclusion. As, Adam Savage from The Mythbusters said, "The only difference between science, and screwing around, is writing it down."
Not sure why I find this so interesting after 14 years of working as an HVAC/R technician in Texas but watching him has been great. This is a cool diy project that probably has a place in the market, couldn’t be more different than a restaurant unit but serves a particular need particularly well. Look forward to more videos!
I'm imagining some sort of drop in unit incorporating a storage bin, with adjustable brackets that could drop into most chest freezers, and maybe hold 20 pounds of ice, leaving the rest of the freezer available to store food, etc.
Having a blast watching your posts. I'm a refrigeration tech, I repair commercial Ice makers. Your numbers Blow me away! This is great fun, and you get free ice! Stay humble and honest, it works. Eshew the negative, press on. Not one of the haters has the tenacity to create what you have, a free ice maker!
AMMMMAZING! I love this series! I'm rooting for 12+ lbs in 24hr period! I know it's bold but I believe! Forget sports! This is what I root for now! Can't wait to see the next tests!
I live 10000km away from you , its winter here but I dont really use Ice in summer, let alone that much. Yet here I am watching these videos thanks to the crazy youtube algorithm. Nice work, kept me from doing what a should for an hour or so.
Mr. Kelly, this series is better than daytime soaps! I want to see if you can make (and retrieve) ice while also using the other side of the freezer to store food.
We have a similar chest freezer that we don't use anymore. I am so building one of these once you find the right combination for maximum production. My wife thinks I am nuts but it is just sitting around now that we have a new upright full-size freezer in the garage. Never hurts to have ice around in the summer.
I have watched all of your ice maker video’s You have a positive attitude and an open mind to all ideas(even with the negative comments) Keep making videos don’t change anything that you are doing. I and others will keep watching and learning from you. Thank you so much for all that you do. Great job
The cost of commercial icemakers are ridiculous , this is one of the best Ideas I have heard of in a long time. I live here in Central Florida and go through pounds and pounds of ice a week. Fortunately I have a commercial ice machine that sells 20 lbs bags for $2 right down the road from me. But I still run out of ice, taking lbs of it with me to work every day. Been watching this build from the beginning and I don't miss a update. I want one, but the idea of me putting one of these together is just to scary even with your videos to watch.
TBH, I get it, but I'd encourage you to go for it. At the worst, you destroy your supplies and they go in the garbage, right? If that's not going to financially ruin you, I'd say the benefit of the sense of accomplishment you'll get from doing this will outweigh the risk you're taking. You could certainly do this cheaper than him though, find a used deep freezer for one, and to avoid destroying it irreparably, you could drill a hole through the lid, where there is nothing critical. Worst that happens then, is you patch up the hole and either use it as a regular deep freezer, or give it away to someone. Just getting the deep freezer and wiring/plumbing the ice maker ate the "hardest" parts of matching his v1 machine, and the ice maker kit comes with the self piercing saddle valve to make the plumbing trivial. Skip the part of messing with the freezer wiring if you're worried about that and buy a separate power supply to wire them in to.
@@Nevir202 Love your attitude, yes you hit the nail with the hammer, I am worried about the wiring. I will take your advice and give it a go , like you said not really throwing that much money away.
Anyone who doesnt watch enough to know you tare the scales, or bother watching the entire video, please just ignore them. I like your content. I'm an engineer, but you are proving out many ideas that have never been tested. Great content. Putting fans on the hot side will help a bunch. waiting to see that one.
Love this stuff! Great job! You mentioned a box fan to cool the outside, have you considered attaching heat sinks? Like aluminum plates with grooves across it. I think that will help pull heat away from the outside with or without the assistance of a fan, and it may help the efficiency of the freezer.
How about some catchy names for Kelly's creation here? I'm going to suggest: "Kelly's Turbo Home Ice Plant !" I think in the calculations Kelly should have added in a factor for how much entertainment this project has brought ! It was an excellent idea and a brilliant execution here !!! Thanks for the videos!
Don't forget the gas you need to drive to the store to get the ice... yeah, you are practically printing the green :) I like your video's.. keep 'm coming!
I have to say, I've never really had a need for an ice maker at home since we don't really use much ice. But this really makes me want to build one and find excuses to use all of that ice! $.44/20lb is insanely cheap. I think the Rutters up the road from our place sells 8lb bags for $3. This might end up being a nice side hustle for me!
One thing that I think was overlooked was that he compared the cost of a bag of ice from a convenience store to his energy cost to make the same amount of ice. He overlooked that the cost at the convenience store also includes some fractional, prorated cost of the equipment used to produce the ice. He did not include the cost of his own equipment in any way. That’s a big problem. He could have used some prorated cost of his own equipment added to the energy costs. For example, he might guess that his equipment might last 10 years, and if he paid $370 for all the equipment, his equipment cost would be $37 per year or about $0.10 per day. So if he makes 10 pounds of ice per day, it would take 2 days to make 20 pounds, at an equipment cost of an additional $0.20. So adding $0.20 equipment costs to the $0.44 energy costs comes to $0.64 for the 20 pounds, still much better than the convenience store. It all depends on the assumptions made for the life of his equipment.
@@donearnhardt6336 He does tell you his cost for all of the equipment. Though he doesn't break the cost of equipment down by hour. But 99% of us aren't going to take a loan out for $370 worth of equipment or try to pay for the equipment by the hour. There's no need to put the cost of equipment into the hourly breakdown. BUT if you want to break it down that way, that's fine and up to you. Either way I think he does a great job with laying all of the relevant info out there. Fridge Ice makers and deep freezers typically last a long time.
@@weschubb3855 I was not talking about the hourly cost of the equipment. And I know he mentioned the amount of money he spent. But when you compare his cost to make ice verses the price he paid at a convenience store, you can’t just use the cost of the electric energy he paid to make the ice. You have to include the cost of his equipment too. The convenience store includes the cost of their equipment in the price of the ice they sell in addition to the cost of energy (plus their other overhead and profit which I was not suggesting that he calculate). His cost per bag of ice includes the energy expense plus the equipment costs.
@@weschubb3855 by the way, I’m not trying to distract from what he did to build the ice maker, I think he is very innovative and smart to build this ice maker the way he did.. I’m very much impressed with the way he did it and with all the subsequent tests of his ice compared to other types of ice. Watching these videos has been quite fun.
Dude; I love it. Keep it up. The "TARE" I love how you look at the camera. I think I am going to do this. I use Ice in coolers for drinks all year long. Way colder than a fridge. Now to get zero Degree Ice? Heck yes. The stuff you get from the gas station and others is NOT NEARLY as cold. Agree, if it is colder; it lasts longer. Common sense. I have watched this from the beginning tonight; and the chest freezers are coming down in price gonna build one. THANK YOU!
You need a raspberry pi with a few one wire temp probes so you can track and chart temps of ambient, bottom of the cooler, water coming in, etc. You could run like 8 probes off of one raspberry pi. And they are super cheap too.
Another huge bonus is that you know where the water came from and can filter it as needed or desired in confidence. Good project my friend. Good numbers too.
Just found this video and binge watched the whole series. I have been fighting with a broken Scotsman commercial ice maker that I inherited the past week and am now considering selling it and making one of these. Will turn a profit selling the machine and will save countless on the electric/water bill.
Something to note when comparing against price of commercial ice makers, cost of the maintenance. I have a commercial ice maker from a hotel for my business, that thing needs constant upkeep at $100/hour. I thought about moving it to my home shop for filling camper coolers, thanks for showing me the better alternative!
Just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I finished my chest freezer ice maker last week. A single ice maker with one low speed 110v fan and I'm making 7.2 lbs of ice per day!
@@charlieodom9107 good thought but I just checked FB market place and craigs list. the cheap ones look 🤕🤢 and the nice looking ones are 🤑🤑🤑 I'm gonna get the Amazon one for $229 and know it's in good working order. thank you for the idea to buy used though
@@charlieodom9107 it's called the Koolatron KTCF195 Compact Top-Opening Chest, Mini Freezer with 7.0 Cubic Feet Capacity-Ideal for Home, Apartment, Condo, Cabin, Basement, Garage-White
Love the series. Talking about bacteria and mold growth. One of the major benifits of your design has over commercial units is storage below freezing. The vast majority of mold or bacteria cannot grow in a below freezing environment. Assuming clean water your ice is safer than any ice you can get at a restaurant. Congrats on the channel growth. Thanks for the great content.
Don't sweat the length of a good informative video. You aren't wasting our time with useless fluff, you're working hard to give us the info we are watching to get. If you were telling bad jokes or talking off topic then yeah there would be reason for complaining. Please keep up the great job you are doing!
It's awesome that so many people are giving you feedback on your icemaker. Congratulations on hitting 26K subscribers. 👏👏👏 Also, my family enjoys the longer videos. Take care.
This is amazing. My son and I have been talking all week about how to make ice faster and then TH-cam recommended your videos. Great project and nice implementation!
10:04 That's because the AC/DC power adapters giving off 1 watt of heat. Keep up the great work! I wish I did a video on my icemaker project that I did a long time ago!
So with a 5v 1.5A (for head room) power adapter and a barrel jack splitter you could use only 1 adapter and maybe save a little more? Probably not worth it except to make it cleaner.
I'm glad you decided to do this cause I had the same idea years ago but didn't know exactly how to electrically hook up the ice makers and the water supply. For that I thank you. You're an inspiration.
You are having fun doing this keep it up lol. I have an older commercial ice machine that does burn a lot of electricity so what i did was buy a 14 cubic foot freezer and bought 20 pound ice bags and fill them up and transfer them to the freezer and it fits 19 20 pound bags and then turn the ice machine off till i need it again .
I'm also an avid fisherman. I'm in Virginia so it's not quite as hot as your place but we have our days too. I have a Scotsman Ice Machine that puts out 100 lbs per day. That said, I bought it used for $1,000! If I'd watched this video first it would've been a totally different story! Thanks for this series. I'm loving it!
I don't know why these videos are so interesting to me. I don't have a need for that much ice, in fact my regular home ice maker bucket is clogged because of the lack of use. I don't usually like ice in my drinks. I guess they appeal to me as an engineer, watching the concept, planning, execution, revisions and documentation. Seeing how many views you have, I'd bet you have more than paid for this project in TH-cam bucks. Well done and can't wait to see version 2.0
Run a long copper coil through a mini fridge next to the freezer. Will chill the water between ice maker cycles. And you can keep cold drinks in the shop.
Bring it on! Lake life is the best! Just forwarded your Playlist to my hubby. It is a long drive to get ice at Lake Jackson. Found a self serve 2/10lb bags for $2.50 after a 25 mins. drive. Keep up the good work. Just maybe I'll have my very own homemade ice maker!
You could also mount everything to the top door/lid so everything is out of the way when you open it so you can have better access to the ice. Looks like it would be pretty easy to hookup those aluminum supports you made.
@@jimichan7649 instead of mounting them solid, they could be mounted on a drop pivot bracket so the ice makers always stay level no matter the angle of the lid.
I didn't see the comment but whom ever thought economically you where going to spent more or the same making ice was not thinking clearly. The ice company has to not only make the ice, deliver the ice and freezers to many retail sites using trucks [fuel,insurance, maintenance, etc.], drivers [and all that comes with employees], and share profits with the retail outlets. That is why it costs $3-4 a bag, most of those costs are not what it takes to make ice but the overhead.
me too he's got the new 2.0 working and I can't wait to see the results! that's how I found Kelly's Country Life in the first place, so I'm invested and that ice maker.
I won't comment on the wives tale of freezing hot water being faster, ugh...BUT you can rewind any test to eliminate thermal mass by emptying the ice out and checking any test over again or by doing it just once at the end of the testing process to see if it was a factor. GREAT VIDEOS tons of fun to watch!!!
@@brenthussey8921 I tried searching for the ice maker for the Samsung 4 door Flex model, but couldn't find it. It would be sweet to make a machine with two compartments - one side for nugget ice and the other side for regular ice!
Take it from simple physics. Hot water does not cool faster than cool water. It may cool down faster in terms of the percentage it cools down in a given time though.
Your statement is true... this gets misconstrued all over the place. Hot water goes through a faster temperature change (rate of change) to freezing than does cold water, but the overall time for the completed state change to ice is longer for hot water.
Love your series, man- very well done. I had a question, if that’s ok: would it be practical/possible to add a third ice maker? Possibly along the back wall? Theoretically should give you a 30% production increase for almost no additional cost. I ask in case there are other viewers who might need that additional production.
great video Andrew, don't apologize for them being long. I love to come home from work and watch people work. I sent this over to a good friend of mine that owns a landscaping business, we have been discussing this for years so he can save some cash. Enjoy your channel. God Bless
Incoming water temperature will only affect the amount of ice a little, here's why: To turn water into ice 2 things need to happen. 1. The temperature must drop to the freezing point 2. The material must undergo a phase change (from liquid to solid) How much energy is needed for these 2 steps is described by the "Specific Heat Capacity" and the "Specific Latent Heat" of the material. 1. The Specific Heat Capacity says how much energy is needed to change the temperature by a certain amount of a certain quantity of material. 2. The Specific Latent heat says how much energy is needed for a state change (liquid to solid for example) of a certain quantity of material. For water the numbers are: Specific Heat Capacity: 4,200 J/Kg°C Specific Latent Heat: 334,000 J/Kg This means: To drop the temperature by 1 degree celsius of 1 kg of water it takes 4,200 Joules of energy. To undergo the state change for 1kg of water/ice it takes 334,000 Joules of energy. Converted to more common units: Changing the temperature of 1 pound of water by 1 degree fahrenheit takes 0.000294 KWh Changing the state of 1 pound of water to ice takes 0.04208 Kwh As you can see the majority of the energy goes toward the state change. Here's a short calculation to show the difference in 2 examples. 1. Incoming water temperature is 90°f: To cool 10 pounds of water to the freezing point it will take (90-32)*10*0.000294 = 0.17 KWh For the water to then change to ice it will take 10*0.04208 = 0.42 KWh Or in total 0.42 + 0.17 = 0.59 KWh 2. Incoming water temperature is 60°f: To cool the 10 pounds to freezing point it will take (60-32)*10*0.000294 = 0.08KWh The state change will remain the same at 0.42 KWh In total it will take 0.42 + 0.08 = 0.50 KWh As you can see the difference between 90°f and 60°f water is only 18%. So it will be an improvement but don't expect major things out of it.
Here is a shocker, I'll give you a sneak peek at the next test series. My incoming water was 99 degrees because the pipe is in the sun. Now factor that in to time to convert per day.
I'm very interested in seeing which approach you try for pre cooling. To bring the temp below the ambient shop temp would seem to require a complex solution. And it would be less energy efficient than letting the freezer do the cooling as it is now. Pipe insulation could limit the amount of heat that the outside pipe absorbs, but the water flows very slowly and sits in the pipe for a long time. Have you measured the duty cycle of the freezer? Meaning what percentage of 24 hours does it run? Unless it is more than about 70%, I would add a third ice maker. 50% more ice making hardware should produce way more than prechilling and is probably the most energy efficient. It has significant upfront cost, but you have installing these down to a science. Who knows how many makers could be installed before the freezer will max out?
I have no idea why but I loved this video. I can sense your enthusiasm for DIY and this is the only video of yours I have watched. Based on this ice maker video I am happily subscribing.
Ran across your video. Watched the entire series.. so far.. So impressed! Your dedication to the data. And the inovation... you go boy! You might've came across something you could market!
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I can't believe how emotionally invested I've become in this dude's DIY ice maker.
Lol, welcome to the club! We will need ice anonymous meetings after the series is over!
This dude makes me want to make one and I dont even need that much ice lol
@@WyattWilliams7 same I want an ice maker real bad.
@@bryankeating8440 might actually make one for the ranch so I’m not driving half an hour in the summer for ice
@@TKCL I'll attend that meeting but I will also need to sign up for pole barn houses anonymous as well
The most famous chest freezer on TH-cam.
Lol tell me about it
If someone ISN'T interested in DIY ice-makers I stop talking to them, and that's how I weed people out of my life.
That's funny I'm old fashion I use race
OMG that is going to be my new standard "have you watched the DIY icemaker guy? No, see ya!"
I didn’t have any issue with the length of the video. You do a great job of keeping things informative and interesting.
Thank you for the feedback, I need that information.
nobody ever has an issue with length....
Exactly what I came to say
Informative, interesting and appropriate.. no wasted time. Keep using what time you need!!
Picking up a new deep freeze at Walmart today and ordered parts off Amazon to complete the project.
that sass over zeroing out the scale is glorious, i love it.
🤣
Love it too! The one part he says TARE and stares at the camera was great!
Ditto!
"TARE" and the look at the camera. 😆
A 30-minute video isn't long and you are doing a bang-up job!
you are right because it contains facts and no BS, anyone who does DIY projects understandsa that, the more info you get the better, i do maintenance and i keep tellig my helper i do not know everything i learn a lot from watching many videos on youtube the good ones and the bed ones, you can learn much from other peoples mistakes as in what not to do
There are 4 people who downvoted on this video?
Some people need a hug man...
Great work good sir. As always.
...or a free bag of ice!
Four icemaker company employees (and tare haters).
I really like how data dense this project is
It's amazing how much we can learn from something so simple. If schools had projects like this kids would be more evolved.
@@TKCL What class in school would the curriculum support a project as this DIY ice maker? I am enjoying the videos. You might consider using the baseline approach when doing your comparisons such as 2 fans far away makes X lbs more ice than the baseline and 2 fans up close makes Y lbs more ice than baseline. Keep the videos coming.
I love the fact that you're doing actual science. You form a hypothesis, you do an experiment, you collect data, you arrive at a conclusion. As, Adam Savage from The Mythbusters said, "The only difference between science, and screwing around, is writing it down."
I can't believe how exciting weighing ice has became in my life.
Thanks for being so real! Can’t believe there are even haters…why? Love watching your scientific process developing! Keep it up!!
Thank you for watching
This is my current favourite series going
Glad you are enjoying it! Many more videos are coming
Mine too!!!
It's a freezer, water, fans and environment. I am hooked on this channel 😘🇿🇦
Not sure why I find this so interesting after 14 years of working as an HVAC/R technician in Texas but watching him has been great. This is a cool diy project that probably has a place in the market, couldn’t be more different than a restaurant unit but serves a particular need particularly well. Look forward to more videos!
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed it
I'm imagining some sort of drop in unit incorporating a storage bin, with adjustable brackets that could drop into most chest freezers, and maybe hold 20 pounds of ice, leaving the rest of the freezer available to store food, etc.
Having a blast watching your posts. I'm a refrigeration tech, I repair commercial Ice makers. Your numbers Blow me away! This is great fun, and you get free ice! Stay humble and honest, it works. Eshew the negative, press on. Not one of the haters has the tenacity to create what you have, a free ice maker!
AMMMMAZING! I love this series! I'm rooting for 12+ lbs in 24hr period! I know it's bold but I believe! Forget sports! This is what I root for now!
Can't wait to see the next tests!
"sports" has become nothing but political grandstanding. Hopefully we can keep ICE non-political :-)
yeap scrwew sports wqhen they trook a knee i was done and will not go back
I live 10000km away from you , its winter here but I dont really use Ice in summer, let alone that much. Yet here I am watching these videos thanks to the crazy youtube algorithm. Nice work, kept me from doing what a should for an hour or so.
Thank you for watching
i love the subtle stabs you’re taking at people about the tare weight. you’re channel is amazing
Lol, glad you enjoyed it
Mr. Kelly, this series is better than daytime soaps! I want to see if you can make (and retrieve) ice while also using the other side of the freezer to store food.
We have a similar chest freezer that we don't use anymore. I am so building one of these once you find the right combination for maximum production. My wife thinks I am nuts but it is just sitting around now that we have a new upright full-size freezer in the garage. Never hurts to have ice around in the summer.
yeap and if you to much and a party coming up bag it and store it in the upright
I have watched all of your ice maker video’s
You have a positive attitude and an open mind to all ideas(even with the negative comments)
Keep making videos don’t change anything that you are doing. I and others will keep watching and learning from you. Thank you so much for all that you do. Great job
Thank you for the kind words
"We're gonna test that" You are beginning to sound like Project Farm lol
I know! And I don't mean to steal his line.... BTW I love his channel, never miss an episode
Being compared to Project Farm is high praise & you deserve it!
Sometimes, you just have to climb the mountain because it's there. Great job!
The cost of commercial icemakers are ridiculous , this is one of the best Ideas I have heard of in a long time. I live here in Central Florida and go through pounds and pounds of ice a week. Fortunately I have a commercial ice machine that sells 20 lbs bags for $2 right down the road from me. But I still run out of ice, taking lbs of it with me to work every day. Been watching this build from the beginning and I don't miss a update. I want one, but the idea of me putting one of these together is just to scary even with your videos to watch.
Well build number 2 might be more user friendly.
You can do this. Give it a try, you can cobble together videos to learn how to build all this
TBH, I get it, but I'd encourage you to go for it.
At the worst, you destroy your supplies and they go in the garbage, right? If that's not going to financially ruin you, I'd say the benefit of the sense of accomplishment you'll get from doing this will outweigh the risk you're taking.
You could certainly do this cheaper than him though, find a used deep freezer for one, and to avoid destroying it irreparably, you could drill a hole through the lid, where there is nothing critical.
Worst that happens then, is you patch up the hole and either use it as a regular deep freezer, or give it away to someone.
Just getting the deep freezer and wiring/plumbing the ice maker ate the "hardest" parts of matching his v1 machine, and the ice maker kit comes with the self piercing saddle valve to make the plumbing trivial.
Skip the part of messing with the freezer wiring if you're worried about that and buy a separate power supply to wire them in to.
If you have the room you will save a ton of money...
@@Nevir202 Love your attitude, yes you hit the nail with the hammer, I am worried about the wiring. I will take your advice and give it a go , like you said not really throwing that much money away.
It is too hot outside. These ice maker videos cheer me up.
It just makes me happy that you’re saving so much money on the ice costs.
Anyone who doesnt watch enough to know you tare the scales, or bother watching the entire video, please just ignore them. I like your content. I'm an engineer, but you are proving out many ideas that have never been tested. Great content. Putting fans on the hot side will help a bunch. waiting to see that one.
It’s so simple, but everyone’s interested.
He is such a good dude. I hope he creates an ice making company and takes over the world.
Lol, I just want convenient ice..
Love this stuff! Great job! You mentioned a box fan to cool the outside, have you considered attaching heat sinks? Like aluminum plates with grooves across it. I think that will help pull heat away from the outside with or without the assistance of a fan, and it may help the efficiency of the freezer.
You got it bro!!! don:t turn knobs while you're flipping switches!!! your method of test is spot on!!
I like this project. There is always going to be haters. Don't give them the satisfaction by talking about them.
I will never need this, ever, but I’m so invested in knowing how much ice he can make and how low he can get his cost per pound.
Now add a Solarpanel with a Battery and have free Ice in a years time ;)
That is a good idea. I currently have a video up showing just that. but I have it on a 5 cubic foot freezer.
I don’t think this video was too long, I’d watch a hour long video with this content. It’s very interesting to see the differences the changes make.
Remember, skeptics are always gonna be out there and haters gonna hate. Pay’em no mind. Keep videos comin. Thanks 👍🏻
They can hate all they want, I'm the one no longer paying for ice or running around to get it! Thanks for watching!
Who! Would have thought I'd be addicted to ice cube videos!!!!!!!
How about some catchy names for Kelly's creation here? I'm going to suggest: "Kelly's Turbo Home Ice Plant !" I think in the calculations Kelly should have added in a factor for how much entertainment this project has brought ! It was an excellent idea and a brilliant execution here !!! Thanks for the videos!
Thank you for watching
Kelly's fargin' ice hole?
Don't forget the gas you need to drive to the store to get the ice... yeah, you are practically printing the green :) I like your video's.. keep 'm coming!
Absolutely, thanks for watching
I have to say, I've never really had a need for an ice maker at home since we don't really use much ice. But this really makes me want to build one and find excuses to use all of that ice! $.44/20lb is insanely cheap. I think the Rutters up the road from our place sells 8lb bags for $3. This might end up being a nice side hustle for me!
One thing that I think was overlooked was that he compared the cost of a bag of ice from a convenience store to his energy cost to make the same amount of ice. He overlooked that the cost at the convenience store also includes some fractional, prorated cost of the equipment used to produce the ice. He did not include the cost of his own equipment in any way. That’s a big problem. He could have used some prorated cost of his own equipment added to the energy costs. For example, he might guess that his equipment might last 10 years, and if he paid $370 for all the equipment, his equipment cost would be $37 per year or about $0.10 per day. So if he makes 10 pounds of ice per day, it would take 2 days to make 20 pounds, at an equipment cost of an additional $0.20. So adding $0.20 equipment costs to the $0.44 energy costs comes to $0.64 for the 20 pounds, still much better than the convenience store. It all depends on the assumptions made for the life of his equipment.
Keep watching Don, I do include all costs including equipment
@@donearnhardt6336 He does tell you his cost for all of the equipment. Though he doesn't break the cost of equipment down by hour. But 99% of us aren't going to take a loan out for $370 worth of equipment or try to pay for the equipment by the hour. There's no need to put the cost of equipment into the hourly breakdown. BUT if you want to break it down that way, that's fine and up to you. Either way I think he does a great job with laying all of the relevant info out there. Fridge Ice makers and deep freezers typically last a long time.
@@weschubb3855 I was not talking about the hourly cost of the equipment. And I know he mentioned the amount of money he spent. But when you compare his cost to make ice verses the price he paid at a convenience store, you can’t just use the cost of the electric energy he paid to make the ice. You have to include the cost of his equipment too. The convenience store includes the cost of their equipment in the price of the ice they sell in addition to the cost of energy (plus their other overhead and profit which I was not suggesting that he calculate). His cost per bag of ice includes the energy expense plus the equipment costs.
@@weschubb3855 by the way, I’m not trying to distract from what he did to build the ice maker, I think he is very innovative and smart to build this ice maker the way he did.. I’m very much impressed with the way he did it and with all the subsequent tests of his ice compared to other types of ice. Watching these videos has been quite fun.
People are always gonna hate 😒. Just by not spending money on nonsense at the store is a saving. Good job!
Thank you
This dude is an absolute WIZARD at this, holy cow dude!
Dude; I love it. Keep it up. The "TARE" I love how you look at the camera. I think I am going to do this. I use Ice in coolers for drinks all year long. Way colder than a fridge. Now to get zero Degree Ice? Heck yes. The stuff you get from the gas station and others is NOT NEARLY as cold. Agree, if it is colder; it lasts longer. Common sense. I have watched this from the beginning tonight; and the chest freezers are coming down in price gonna build one. THANK YOU!
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You need a raspberry pi with a few one wire temp probes so you can track and chart temps of ambient, bottom of the cooler, water coming in, etc. You could run like 8 probes off of one raspberry pi. And they are super cheap too.
This would be fine for testing/data collection, but I prefer the KISS methods... simpler is better.
Another huge bonus is that you know where the water came from and can filter it as needed or desired in confidence. Good project my friend. Good numbers too.
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I love this! I can't justify this build for my house but damn I wish I could! keep going, it's been a blast watching these videos!
Just found this video and binge watched the whole series. I have been fighting with a broken Scotsman commercial ice maker that I inherited the past week and am now considering selling it and making one of these. Will turn a profit selling the machine and will save countless on the electric/water bill.
Something to note when comparing against price of commercial ice makers, cost of the maintenance. I have a commercial ice maker from a hotel for my business, that thing needs constant upkeep at $100/hour. I thought about moving it to my home shop for filling camper coolers, thanks for showing me the better alternative!
Just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I finished my chest freezer ice maker last week. A single ice maker with one low speed 110v fan and I'm making 7.2 lbs of ice per day!
Wow that's great production! Thanks for watching
If Andrew can’t nail this down nobody can! lol
Great job brother. I’ve enjoyed watching these.
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I don't care about the negatives.
This is just ingenious.
Cudos to you and your effort 👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏💯💯💯💯💯💯
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I have bought most of the stuff. gonna get a freezer this weekend. ready to build one
@@charlieodom9107 good thought but I just checked FB market place and craigs list. the cheap ones look 🤕🤢 and the nice looking ones are 🤑🤑🤑 I'm gonna get the Amazon one for $229 and know it's in good working order. thank you for the idea to buy used though
@@charlieodom9107 it's called the Koolatron KTCF195 Compact Top-Opening Chest, Mini Freezer with 7.0 Cubic Feet Capacity-Ideal for Home, Apartment, Condo, Cabin, Basement, Garage-White
Love the series. Talking about bacteria and mold growth. One of the major benifits of your design has over commercial units is storage below freezing. The vast majority of mold or bacteria cannot grow in a below freezing environment. Assuming clean water your ice is safer than any ice you can get at a restaurant. Congrats on the channel growth. Thanks for the great content.
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Keep on being you! 💓
Will do!
Don't sweat the length of a good informative video. You aren't wasting our time with useless fluff, you're working hard to give us the info we are watching to get. If you were telling bad jokes or talking off topic then yeah there would be reason for complaining. Please keep up the great job you are doing!
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Your authenticity, southern charm, and who doesn’t like hanging out in a garage! This is great content, thank you!
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I am totally addicted to these videos I can't wait to build my own! I'm completely emotionally invested just like another comment said
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It's awesome that so many people are giving you feedback on your icemaker.
Congratulations on hitting 26K subscribers. 👏👏👏 Also, my family enjoys the longer videos. Take care.
Thank you so much, we appreciate all the support!
This is amazing. My son and I have been talking all week about how to make ice faster and then TH-cam recommended your videos. Great project and nice implementation!
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10:04 That's because the AC/DC power adapters giving off 1 watt of heat. Keep up the great work! I wish I did a video on my icemaker project that I did a long time ago!
So with a 5v 1.5A (for head room) power adapter and a barrel jack splitter you could use only 1 adapter and maybe save a little more? Probably not worth it except to make it cleaner.
Dude, just the convenience factor is a life saver regardless of the price.
Good videos man.
Convenience is the main reason for this project
No problem with length. Just do what you like.
I'm glad you decided to do this cause I had the same idea years ago but didn't know exactly how to electrically hook up the ice makers and the water supply. For that I thank you. You're an inspiration.
You are having fun doing this keep it up lol. I have an older commercial ice machine that does burn a lot of electricity so what i did was buy a 14 cubic foot freezer and bought 20 pound ice bags and fill them up and transfer them to the freezer and it fits 19 20 pound bags and then turn the ice machine off till i need it again .
I'm also an avid fisherman. I'm in Virginia so it's not quite as hot as your place but we have our days too. I have a Scotsman Ice Machine that puts out 100 lbs per day. That said, I bought it used for $1,000! If I'd watched this video first it would've been a totally different story! Thanks for this series. I'm loving it!
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Great series! it’s interesting and informative. More importantly it’s fun and engaging you’re community. Well done and keep it up!
Couldn't have said it better
I don't know why these videos are so interesting to me. I don't have a need for that much ice, in fact my regular home ice maker bucket is clogged because of the lack of use. I don't usually like ice in my drinks. I guess they appeal to me as an engineer, watching the concept, planning, execution, revisions and documentation.
Seeing how many views you have, I'd bet you have more than paid for this project in TH-cam bucks.
Well done and can't wait to see version 2.0
Couldn't have said it better myself, it's more than a ice maker.
That statement about buying junk because your already at the store to get ice really hit home lol
Thank you for your work on this! Definitely will bring my fishing costs down, which will make my spouse happy! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Run a long copper coil through a mini fridge next to the freezer. Will chill the water between ice maker cycles. And you can keep cold drinks in the shop.
It's on the list
Bring it on! Lake life is the best! Just forwarded your Playlist to my hubby. It is a long drive to get ice at Lake Jackson. Found a self serve 2/10lb bags for $2.50 after a 25 mins. drive. Keep up the good work. Just maybe I'll have my very own homemade ice maker!
You could also mount everything to the top door/lid so everything is out of the way when you open it so you can have better access to the ice. Looks like it would be pretty easy to hookup those aluminum supports you made.
I really like that idea, but what if there's water in the ice makers (or even just one of them) when you open the lid? Kind of a mess.
@@jimichan7649 instead of mounting them solid, they could be mounted on a drop pivot bracket so the ice makers always stay level no matter the angle of the lid.
@@donniecahill5243 Interesting idea, but it's starting to get complicated.
I enjoy your country boy attitude with a doctorate level analysis:)!
Why thank you!!
I didn't see the comment but whom ever thought economically you where going to spent more or the same making ice was not thinking clearly. The ice company has to not only make the ice, deliver the ice and freezers to many retail sites using trucks [fuel,insurance, maintenance, etc.], drivers [and all that comes with employees], and share profits with the retail outlets. That is why it costs $3-4 a bag, most of those costs are not what it takes to make ice but the overhead.
Ignore those haters - this is more interesting to me than most of the stuff on TH-cam - great job!
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DUDE WHO CARES IF YOU PAY ANYTHING ITS AWSOME !!PEACE FROM DA NORTHEAST!!
Thank you for watching, I'm quite proud of it!
@@TKCL COOL STUFF IM HENNESSEY YOUR A KELLY ALLS GOOD!!
Video wasn't too long at all, I enjoyed every minute of it. And watching the full playlist.
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You're going to have a GoPro in there before too long! Great video, keep up the great work!
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Oh yeah don’t worry about the length of the video. It was very informative and entertaining.
Keep them this way
Ok thanks!
I feel you could measure the incoming water usage, I don't know if you've mentioned it yet, love the videos!
I would wonder why.. water = ice Are you suggesting water loss?
Got my rain today that you sent in the mail!!! Thank you it is much needed!! LOL!!
Your welcome
Glad you spending the money on research so I can just build the best version! 🤣
Same here! In the end this video will pay him for his time and equipment costs. It's a win for all of us.
I need to come out way ahead though to please the wife lol 😂
@@TKCL that ain’t no lie!!
me too he's got the new 2.0 working and I can't wait to see the results! that's how I found Kelly's Country Life in the first place, so I'm invested and that ice maker.
Video out tomorrow! 🤫😉
The next test will be interesting ;-)
I think so too
I won't comment on the wives tale of freezing hot water being faster, ugh...BUT you can rewind any test to eliminate thermal mass by emptying the ice out and checking any test over again or by doing it just once at the end of the testing process to see if it was a factor. GREAT VIDEOS tons of fun to watch!!!
If you want to make a lot of people happy, make a Sonic Ice machine! (Please, oh please!)
I've already been looking into Samsung ice makers since they have come out with a sonic ice maker in their home refrigerators.
@@brenthussey8921 I tried searching for the ice maker for the Samsung 4 door Flex model, but couldn't find it. It would be sweet to make a machine with two compartments - one side for nugget ice and the other side for regular ice!
I built one off the idea I took the top lip off the freezer and drilled through the wall and I love it!!
Take it from simple physics. Hot water does not cool faster than cool water. It may cool down faster in terms of the percentage it cools down in a given time though.
Your statement is true... this gets misconstrued all over the place. Hot water goes through a faster temperature change (rate of change) to freezing than does cold water, but the overall time for the completed state change to ice is longer for hot water.
Only people that live in Florida truly understand what this DIY Ice Maker, Truly Priceless!!
Love your series, man- very well done. I had a question, if that’s ok: would it be practical/possible to add a third ice maker? Possibly along the back wall? Theoretically should give you a 30% production increase for almost no additional cost. I ask in case there are other viewers who might need that additional production.
It would be possible, yes
great video Andrew, don't apologize for them being long. I love to come home from work and watch people work. I sent this over to a good friend of mine that owns a landscaping business, we have been discussing this for years so he can save some cash. Enjoy your channel. God Bless
Thank you for watching, God bless
Incoming water temperature will only affect the amount of ice a little, here's why:
To turn water into ice 2 things need to happen.
1. The temperature must drop to the freezing point
2. The material must undergo a phase change (from liquid to solid)
How much energy is needed for these 2 steps is described by the "Specific Heat Capacity" and the "Specific Latent Heat" of the material.
1. The Specific Heat Capacity says how much energy is needed to change the temperature by a certain amount of a certain quantity of material.
2. The Specific Latent heat says how much energy is needed for a state change (liquid to solid for example) of a certain quantity of material.
For water the numbers are:
Specific Heat Capacity: 4,200 J/Kg°C
Specific Latent Heat: 334,000 J/Kg
This means:
To drop the temperature by 1 degree celsius of 1 kg of water it takes 4,200 Joules of energy.
To undergo the state change for 1kg of water/ice it takes 334,000 Joules of energy.
Converted to more common units:
Changing the temperature of 1 pound of water by 1 degree fahrenheit takes 0.000294 KWh
Changing the state of 1 pound of water to ice takes 0.04208 Kwh
As you can see the majority of the energy goes toward the state change.
Here's a short calculation to show the difference in 2 examples.
1. Incoming water temperature is 90°f:
To cool 10 pounds of water to the freezing point it will take (90-32)*10*0.000294 = 0.17 KWh
For the water to then change to ice it will take 10*0.04208 = 0.42 KWh
Or in total 0.42 + 0.17 = 0.59 KWh
2. Incoming water temperature is 60°f:
To cool the 10 pounds to freezing point it will take (60-32)*10*0.000294 = 0.08KWh
The state change will remain the same at 0.42 KWh
In total it will take 0.42 + 0.08 = 0.50 KWh
As you can see the difference between 90°f and 60°f water is only 18%.
So it will be an improvement but don't expect major things out of it.
Here is a shocker, I'll give you a sneak peek at the next test series. My incoming water was 99 degrees because the pipe is in the sun. Now factor that in to time to convert per day.
Can't argue with the given info, but it seems to be geared more toward total production cost not actual production capability???
TLDR, but agree based on experiments performed in the past. Mpemba effect is negligible if even observable at all.
Small numbers are big numbers when comparing to.......small numbers
I'm very interested in seeing which approach you try for pre cooling. To bring the temp below the ambient shop temp would seem to require a complex solution. And it would be less energy efficient than letting the freezer do the cooling as it is now.
Pipe insulation could limit the amount of heat that the outside pipe absorbs, but the water flows very slowly and sits in the pipe for a long time.
Have you measured the duty cycle of the freezer? Meaning what percentage of 24 hours does it run? Unless it is more than about 70%, I would add a third ice maker. 50% more ice making hardware should produce way more than prechilling and is probably the most energy efficient. It has significant upfront cost, but you have installing these down to a science. Who knows how many makers could be installed before the freezer will max out?
I have no idea why but I loved this video. I can sense your enthusiasm for DIY and this is the only video of yours I have watched. Based on this ice maker video I am happily subscribing.
Thank you for the support! Over 370 videos on the channel and a lot of DIY videos/projects.
i have had this idea for a little while. definitely doing it now
Ran across your video. Watched the entire series.. so far.. So impressed! Your dedication to the data. And the inovation... you go boy! You might've came across something you could market!
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I missed my own graduation just to see that ice drop!!
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Thanks for the information, the length is fine just because of real world applications for making cheap ice… thanks again will keep watching!
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Home depot has a Rubbermaid storage bin that fits perfectly
interesting project I think cooling down that incoming water is a must in your environment.