Tire Sidewall Repair Permanent Vulcanizing PRO REPAIR
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- Stuff I used in the video:
Vulcanizing machine : amzn.to/4d9mqYn
Cushion Gum Raw Rubber: amzn.to/3zgJYMZ
Leather Sewing Awl kit: amzn.to/3XtJOtt
Heavy Nylon Thread/Cord: amzn.to/35dlR2L
Buffing Wheels and Patch Roller: amzn.to/4gsBgvW
GLUE for flap repairs: PR40 Rubber Weld 3M: amzn.to/3JGuv8F
BEAD Breaker: amzn.to/3TqW115
Best TIRE sealant: amzn.to/3TqWb8H (video by me • Permanently Fix Flat A... )
After Thoughts about the Video: I have put brand new valve stems on $50 tubes, patched tubes, repaired $1400 worth of rubber tracks, saved a $200 tire in this video, repaired a car tire on a holiday weekend just so it could be limped home and countless ATV tires now. I have pressure tested up to 45psi and 65mph. I would guesstimate in the past year I've saved over $3000 vs buying new tires for me/friends/family. Total cost to get set up should be sub $200, with each repair costing maybe 50cents in material(cushion gum). That just so happens to coincide with the price of a single new tire, so it pays for itself after 1 repair. It takes around 30minutes for me to demount, buff, sew and apply new cushion gum. Then an hour to cook and for the chemical reaction with heat and pressure to turn chewing gum consistency rubber into a tire(gotta love chemistry). Repairs like this should only be done on Off Road, ATV, UTV and Tractor tires. NOT all tires can be repaired especially if this is your first time repairing one. I practiced on and old tire for weeks before getting comfortable. I spoke to professionals in this trade over a 2year span perfecting this skill. A 1inch gash is no problem at all. A 2" inch gash is easily doable, a 3" gets significantly more difficult and so on. NOT ALL TIRES ARE REPAIRABLE especially car tires as they are too thin to take almost any repair. Don't believe all the FEAR-MONGERING around tires, but also don't do something outside your abilities.
TECHNICAL DATA:
Trouble shooting:
Rubber not set up after heating- run the head cycle longer
Bulge repair- Sewing not sufficient or repair too large to support damage
Vulcanizing Glue
Ethanol Free Gasoline 50-50 with Cushion gum(2 days to dilute). You can thin it out with more gas or thicken with more cushion gum. DO NOT used store bought "vulcanizing fluid" as it is meant for COLD repairs. You can find HOT vulcanizing fluid but it is around $30 amzn.to/3AZGYF6
Temperature
300F for 60 minutes with a 1/4-3/8" thick sidewall. Longer time is required for thicker repairs.
Tubes: 10 minutes
Inside Patch:
I like to make my own with the string/cord like I show but you could apply a large reinforced sidewall patch after. I may consider doing both if I had a huge gash(3"plus) and need all the help I can get.
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For guys like me who just love learning how to fix stuff, one of the best channels on TH-cam. Never a bad video.
Mad respect for this man.
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This guy has singlehandedly changed my view on working on my own stuff!! Great work!
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Brother you are such a Gem on TH-cam, just a wealth of knowledge, I really appreciate your knowhow and sharing it with us all, You are Never to Old to Learn Anything.
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I like how you reference "if you've seen in 3rd world repair videos". I've seen those, they are clever, as is this video. Instead of the wheel roller, you can just use the edge of a soup can and roll the edge back and forth while putting pressure. Olden days (1970s) tire tube patch kits were sturdy cardboard with metal bottom and metal screw on cap and you'd roll the hard bottom rim of that kit back and forth to grind in the pressure.
Agreed! I rolled plenty of bike tubes in the 70s. 👍👍
And the lid was serrated to use to rough up the tube surface!
@@Rein_Ciarfella It most certainly was!
That outro was priceless! Mini Baby Sasquatch trying to poke a hole with the wrong end of the pike! Then spliced into the same sequence Ginger going through, on the scent. Looks like you’re having way too much fun in editing! 😂👍
You do good work. Most people are too lazy to put in the effort that you put into a repair. I like that fix things rather than throwing stuff away.
The look on Ginger's face was precious 😍.
Thanks. It's funny that Ginger gives me the utmost attention when I start talking to her. Has no idea what I'm saying but, acts like it... What a good sport!.
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Ginger is a keeper, she always makes me smile.😂
@@sixtyfiveford That's just more evidence supporting my contention that when they say dog is man's best friend they mean men not mankind. Why? Because when a man speaks, a dog is the only creature that looks at him as if he is saying the most amazing things.
Another viewer here who never realized this was a thing! This is giving me ideas for all sorts of other applications not connected with tires or tracks.
Great video, like you said there are a million repairs done in this fashion in the world where labor is cheap and parts are expensive or non-existent . Enjoyed very much . Congratulations on the subs, life is good.
This was a terrific video. I work on a military base as a contractor, and some of our heavy equipment have tires that are very expensive, and we get shrapnel punctures daily. I am all over this technique. Thanks for the clinic!!!
You proved how much this process has saved you by showing ONE tire and track repair at the end. That's $ in the bank all day long man! 👍👍
Exceptionally well explained video. My brother moved to the Philippines and in just the few short months he's been driving there has has 6 to 8 repairs completed. Like you mentioned, the labor is so cheap that the repairs make sense.
I actually had quite a bit of help learning this from people from the Philippines. One guy in particular runs a shop down there. I bent his ear more than he wanted to teach me.
@@sixtyfiveford It's a small world.
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wow, I have installed a lot of tire plugs and patches but this is a whole different level of repair, i'm impressed
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Back in the 70’s, I worked in a farm machinery dealer shop. We had vulcanizing pads that we would repair tractor tires with. You lay them over a patch that was similar to a tire boot. We would soak the heating pad with lighter fluid and light them with a match. It would burn out in 30-40 seconds. You remove it from the tire and you have a perfect patch. Your video brought that repair to mind.
Interesting!
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For anyone who’s interested, I recently purchased a similar bead breaker off Amazon for $36 and used it successfully on a large zero turn tire. It’s pretty heavy but built really well.
Got a link for it?
Thank you, enjoyed...
I remember the old burn on patches...
My god, this guy can fix literally anything. I never would have attempted this had I not seen this video, but after... I'd consider trying it for sure
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This man is a genius
I'm baffled by the number of times you've poked holes in your sidewalls! ; )
@@mjktrash Narrow gullies/canyons with sharp granite boulders on each side. Generally, they're V'd out as well for water to run down the middle, so you're really only running on the outside edges of your tires.
Never knew this was even a thing. Great video!
very informative vid , as always . i have been wanting to know about this type of repair before but as you mentioned , no one uses this in our parts of the world , im from denmark and kind of poor since everything over here cost arm and legs so its ggood to have knowledge of things all over , thanx a heep , and by the way ,i think your dog is friends with the sas!!
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That Sasquatch hunt at the end... LOLZ!!!
Thank you (as always) for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic repair. If I was doing a lot of off-roading, I would certainly invest in one of these vulcanising units, as it really is a money saver. Thanks for sharing
About 1983 I saved up and bought a new set of eagle st for my 442 and immediately tore hole in my sidewall. None of big shops would touch it ,I found a old man tire shop and he vulcanized it for me. Kinda ugly but I never had a problem with it
You must have lived several lifetimes before this one to learn all this stuff. You never cease to amaze! Have you considered adding a tiny bit of elemental sulfur powder before the heat treatment? Supposedly, that is how they do the original "Vulcanizing". The Sulfur forms crosslinks between the rubber polymer molecules. Nut sure if it would help on a repair or not.
The cushion gum already has that in it. The sulfur was added when they were using rubber straight from the tree.
I used to vulcanize my bike tires and tubes as a kid starting at 6 years old. Grandpa showed me all the tricks.
Mid-70's in a "real" gas station, very similar patching done. Against the instructions, on the advice of the older guys that worked there, we'd light the glue on fire after applying it. Dried the glue faster and warmed the rubber. Peel and lay on the patch, work it on good with the Stitching roller (looked similar to Mo's home-made thing) and charge them ... $3.50. You wouldn't believe the guys who complained about that after we went up from $2.50. I haven't seen a buffing wheel since then, and got all nostalgic when Mo opened with it.
I did your other method, and while it wasn't leaking yet, my scissor lift had a slice on one tire. I sanded it and super glued a piece of rubber onto it, after gluing the slice back, and sanded it and it looks like your tire. Thanks!
Great job!
Pakistan mechanic videos. I have watched many. Great repair.
Normally wouldn't recommend tire protection plans, but we've had two go out in one year (one literally today), and it saved our butts. Latest one had the nail nice and crosswise into the sidewall.
It's a gamble and you won. To stay on top, never buy the warranty again as the odds are way against you. Worse odds than Vegas .
@sixtyfiveford it was definitely a great roll ngl. And I grew up in the Philippines. Vulcanizing is a corner shop deal there, but thankyou for spreading the knowledge.
Very impressed. Love the sasquatch bit at the end.
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I only come to see Ginger...and learn to fix a tire the right way..👍👍👍👍
I knew the word “vulcanized”. Saw it all the time for tire advertising back in the ’50’s onwards. I always thought it just meant heat - didn’t realize it also meant pressure. Kinda like rubber diamonds!
Obviously you and Ginger have an acquaintance with the tiny sasquatch who is messing with your tires at the end. She had no reaction to it other than a passing how-do-you-do. She was interested in getting back on the trail, and she knew what you were saying as she was so attentive to every word. Put her on a plane or send me a future puppy. She is one smart lady, and they are hard to find.
I never thought I would be interested in something like this, but I think fixing tractor tires is not so far-fetched using this also. Many tractors get punctures from rocks and sticks. You are a farmer's friend when fixing things quickly is needed. If you want to get that harvest in and all the stores are closed but a punctured tire is all that stands between you and success, this is the way to go. Good Demonstration.
The hardest part is just taking the tractor tire off the rim.
We use to have a tire shop in our town that made recap tires an also did vulcanizing repairs for off road tires then in the late 1960s vulcanizing repairs became illegal to do because of radial tires and people doing repairs on street legal tires the shop I spoke of repaired thousands of tires using the reinforced rubber never saw a failure of the repair
That's pretty cool. I never knew about that stuff before. Nice.
Thanks.
Nice video, and very cool ending.
Get a cheap needle driver or two and learn the simple interrupted instrument tie, it's a square knot. Super fast, used for 99% of superficial lacs.
If there is lots of tension, you can wrap the first throw twice and cinch down on the "post" side of the thread to help hold in place until you get the next opposing one down to lock in the tension. This is much easier with threaded cord.
Edit: You can also add in locking stitches, where each stitch is threaded under the loop of the preceding one on the surface of the work first, before pulling the throw tight. If only tying one knot this helps prevent catastrophic failure if that knot fails.
As always, I enjoy your videos because they cover every day home garage shop repairs. Plus I really like Ginger who is such a cutie! Thanks Moe!
Thanks Man.
yes, the end skit was absolutely worth doing!
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Thank you for sharing, another great video, i learn a lot, you are a great teacher and your explanation are awesome 👍👍👍👍
Thank you!
Back in the day they used those a lot at roadside shops for tire repair. Not sure why they stopped doing that. I actually make casting molds (for pewter) from unvulcanized rubber. I have a large floor plate vulcanizer I use. You can't fix a tire with it but it's fun. I need a smaller one. It's for sale (cheap) to anyone that wants it. It weighs 500lbs though.
Thanks for bringing this to us. This information is difficult to come by, as though it is suppressed. I will put it to good use.
i was thinking instead of tin cans you could use silicon baking sheets.. its thinner more flexible and may let more heat permeate. thoughts? Fantastic info as always
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. You're damn near a genius.
Mostly when he stands near Ginger ... 😆 JK! I'd kill to have Mo as a neighbor, most clever repair guy I've ever seen.
Thats cool! Once Again, excellent information sir!
I must say though, you are HARD on tires. I have done alot of off roading and 4 wheeling with quads etc , never Have I seen such tire carnage 🤪
My grandfather worked in a tire factory many decades ago and when I got one of his toolboxes after he passed every nook and cranny was full of carbon.
Great video! Thank you so much Moe, and Ginger!
Impressive demo
Pretty slick, nice job!
Great Video 👍.....🤔 Maybe find some nylon screen made out of that same tire string material. Or maybe kevlar screen fabric would also work & sew into the hole.
Awesome video, will definitely be using this method. Thanks man, as always
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👍 Thumbs up for the sasquatch. I got a chuckle from it.
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Haha, sasquatch cameo was great!
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Great fix Thanks TANK what about slashed truck tires if done properly ?
Yes and no. It would really depend on the severity and direction of cut. sub 1" and a repair would be successful. Over that and more cords have been cut and more reinforcements need to take place. Over 2-3" and a typical Radial tire is just too weak to start with to hold any repair.
Really good job my friend 👍👍
For the Surgeon's knot, you'd need hemostats, colloquially known as a roach clip. Consider horizontal mattress, running and interrupted as search terms.
Awesome content, never even knew about this being possible. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you liked it!
I have several questions:
1) Tire places won't mess with sidewalls - is this just the labor cost, as you mentioned, or is there any safety concern. (That is, is a repair like this ok for highway speeds?
2) On that note, does the wheel have to be re-balanced after?
3) Your track repair near the end makes me wonder, could a person make their own tracks by cutting+stitiching existing (snowmobile, probably) tracks?
The first thing you have to realize is the entire automotive industry is run off of fear-mongering. Irrational mentions of doom and destruction, death and financial ruin; if you don't service, repair, refill, flush, or follow their guidelines to a T even if it doesn't coincide with what the manufacturer says.
1) First, nobody is trained to do it. Second, the process can take upwards of an hour of Hands-On time which is around $200 shop rate. Third, there's more money in fear-mongering and just telling somebody they need to buy a new $200 tire that only cost them $50. You know what if you're replacing one, you might as well replace all 4...... Safety concerns.... It really depends on the tire and the damage. A passenger car tire is paper thin and can barely hold its own weight to begin with. An LT truck tire is way more substantial and can take 10 times the abuse. A semi truck tire is nearly indestructible and could be repaired over and over. What I'm saying is there has to be common sense and a skill set already in place for these repairs to happen. Someone that knows what will work and what won't. Problem is all the guys that used to do this in the US haven't done this since the '80-90s and are all gone.
2) A tire needs to be rebalanced every 3,000 mi according to the superwise tire shops..... I promise they're not in business just to make money...... So would this need to be rebalanced, yes.
3) Absolutely. You would want to make your own custom jigs to be able to do a full track width at a time. This repair is done in the US for conveyor belts at rock, quarries etc. A track is essentially a conveyor belt with lugs.
@@sixtyfiveford All of that is great info! Thank you so much for taking the time out to answer! (And also for making the video in the first place)
I just super glued a small cut (no missing rubber) in the sidewall. It's been holding alright. The main thing is for it not to spread.
Id kill for peak inside your toolbox and definitely more of your homemade tools
Looks like that Sasquatch is not only sneaky, but has also mastered invisibility.
No wonder you, or Ginger (runs straight past him) can ever catch him in the act of spearing your tyres.
Now he just needs to master the art of using the sharp end of the spear to make a neater gash that's easier to repair🤣🤣
Invisible to the naked eye and scent... That's how they've been so elusive.
I could already envision other uses for that bigass C-clamp!
Great repair video!!! Do you remember Hot Monkey patches? Those were the greatest.
I actually have some. They were the exact same principle. You have cushion gum and the little flammable disc in the metal pan that's supposed to be clamped down.
@@sixtyfiveford Righ on, used to use them to patch bicyle tire all the time.
Goddamn Sasquatch 😂🤣
Have I said you're awesome lately? You're awesome, bro.
Thanks Man.
great ending, darn sasquatch.
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Chaka is stabbing your tires. 😂 I would have thought the sleestak would be doing that
LOL
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That's awesome I caught where your problem is coming from it's like this mini Sasquatch pokin' at your tires with a sidewalk killer stick that came out at the end of your video kind of like an elusive underpants gnome would that may have been what got the boot on my new CV axle that are just attached to my old grizzly 700 I went out for a 20-minute ride after I installed it come home a couple of hours later I inspected it again and it was ripped to shreds I know it had to have been a little Sasquatch or that big curved stick I ran over I hadn't had any problems with the previous original CV joints since 07 all the way up until it got stolen I guess they must have "rode it like they stole it" because when I recovered it both rear CV joints were blown the boots were all shredded up on the inboards
That stinks..
Try putting heat resistant Teflon tape on the steel can cover and it should come right off. I work it the cheese packaging industry and all the sealing elements have this replaceable tape. It comes in different width rolls.
I am surprised you didn't cast your own dies to fit just perfectly.
I know! That's the next thing I'll attempt.
Another great video thank you for making it🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have had very mixed results with the 3M Scotch-Weld PR40. Basically your patch piece needs to have the exact same profile as the tire itself or else you won't get good adhesion.
With rubber I find the surface has to be sanded/scuffed for good adhesion. Acetone also helps temporarily soften and clean the surface and you get a better bond.
For the super glue method, I've been finding even ordinary cheap super glue will bond rubber pretty dang well. I don't know (and I also doubt) that's it's as strong as the rubber specific stuff you recommended some time ago. But since I ran out, the cheap stuff has also worked for me many occasions in a pinch. I'm sure you've done a comparison and I'm assuming you must have found the rubber specific stuff superior for rubber application/repair?
Another great video! I had no idea we could do this so easily... How do you figure this stuff out anyway?! I don't think anyone can out DIY you, like no one!
I attempted with a bunch of different brands. I did find a cheap brand from the gas station that seamed to work excellent but others wouldn't bond at all or were super inconsistent. One from Gorilla was promising but then I struggled with it. I hate paying the $15 for the PR40 from 3M but it always works.
@@sixtyfiveford Yeah, you can count on it.. and that's what makes it valuable. Next time you're at Walmart, grab a hand full of their cheapest generic super glue. I think they come like 3 tubes in. pack. They used to go for a $1, but I think lately they are now $2... I think that stuff actually works surprisingly well. Cheers, DIY MASTER! (I can say confidently, you've earned that title)
@@AtimatikArmy I will do that. I bought some packs from Harbor freight and that stuff was pure garbage.
What in tarnation it's a Sasquatch! Pictures of them make them look a lot bigger.
Exactly. People are looking for something way larger. It's barely taller than a bush.
Excellent 👍
Moe, it looked like you applied some layers without using the DIY adhesive. Does it matter?
You don't need the mixture between layers.
Another great video. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
oohhh smart tires ... last long and prosper... emotionless...
Thanks I like the outro!!
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15:21 Maybe use a drywall fiberglass mesh tape? Or mosqeeto plastic mesh for windows?
I played around with things like that and they all are coated in some sort of plastic or wax. It all seemed to give me adhesion issues whereas the nylon string/cord did not. I tried to find a woven mesh made out of nylon, but that just went into a lady's pantyhose type scenario and I gave up.
Very helpful ,thanks..
No Squasch, a garr-eye-loo. Blessings
Super useful! Thanks
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You paying Sasquatch by the hour or just in treats?
Treats only.
Any thoughts or tricks on repairing a bead damaged bead unmounting a tire tears off a section of rubber?
Yes. you can just use bead sealer when remounting and that takes care of most small damage. You can pinch a chunk of bicycle inner tube between the damage and rim(bead sealer also helps here). Or if the flap is still there you can glue it back into place with super glue. Just try to make the damaged area seat first when airing up.
@@sixtyfiveford cool, appreciate the suggestions!
Awesome .... Thank you so much for all youre geat Videos .Greetings from Germany ;-)
Danke
Great info man!! But good lord do you ride in a scrap yard for old knifes and broken windows?? Lol 😅
Would the vulcanizing glue fix my lawn tractor dry rotted tires? I tried making a homemade "slime" using motor oil and ground rubber....works on some, will it last, I doubt it.
Interesting thought. I think it would be too soft. The premise behind the oil in homemade slime recipes is to swell the rubber. I think gasoline would do a much better job. I will say the tire buffer I use puts off a ton of perfect fine rubber dust. I was saving it there for a while and have a baggie somewhere. Mix that with some gasoline and a little bit of oil. Or maybe even diesel fuel?
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Have you had any luck with repairing blisters in non high way tires like small tractor tires with this?? Yes it's impossible to find information on repair of this nature liability ect and yes labor costs. I would have liked to repair my two front tractor tires with blisters they were just a year old.
I generally call them tire bubbles. They are caused by the inside rubber abrading and exposing the nylon cord. Air travels from the inside of the tire up the cord and inflates the passage where the cord would sit. You can just mark it, take the tire off and view from the inside. If you can see where it's entering from the inside to the cord you can put a patch over it. This is generally caused by hitting something hard and pinching the rubber against the rim and whatever you hit.
Think you could use this method to repair drive belts?
Yes and no. All the strength is in the cordage/string. The problem with a belt is all the cords are running with the belt and there is really nothing to grab/stitch too. Could you make it work? Likely, but I can't imagine the belt would be anywhere as strong as original.
I think you should get some steel screen material and just line the whole side wall of your tires you must aim for sticks
Some good old tire armor
Excellent, thanks Man.
You bet!
damn i wish this came out a couple weeks ago. someone popped one of my font tires in my driveway. i just used self vulcanizing cement and a thin store-bought patch. its stayed sealed so far, but your patch looks way stronger. what do you think of self vulcanizing tire glue? im curious because im really hoping my patch doesnt fail on me lol
If you ever rename your channel it should be something along the lines of "Lost arts of manhood".
Wow I always thought the r stood for rim size u telling me I’m wrong?
@@coreywalker2656 R stands for Radial. If it was a Bias Ply it would have a B or D or sometimes just a dash -.
I'd like to think the guys in the 3rd World videos are watching you for tips. lol.
Nice!!
what was that gorilla ending?
That was the "sasquatch".
His son is a pretty good actor 😂