It contradicts his "I was an alcoholic" and anger that now one saw his 4th place win as legit. Why would you be mad that no one took you seriously, while basically saying saying you were playing a character, aka, not serious?
I totally agree. The heel for what reason? The only people interested in that scene were other competitors. He couldn’t have been delusional enough to think there was a crowd to entertain. He’s just always had a toxic personality.
I love how Joon pointed out that a 'heel' is an obnoxious villian who is meant to get knocked on his ass for show and indeed not a bastard everywhere else in life.
He clearly doesn't know wrestling very well if he thinks it's the heels job to get beaten up. Of course it happens, but they're often doing the beating.
@@Necroverse19traditionally, the heel’s job is to get the babyface over. In Phil’s case, other channels have had minor success (compared to Phil). So, win?
The difference is heels always have their brief moment where it appears they’re winning the match. There’s no script for dumbass. He was just going down after one punch and praying for mercy after that.
@@Necroverse19True they do some beating during the build up in the story so the heel is a threat and to build some sympathy for the babyface. But the end is always the heel gettin' defeated by the babyface. What DSP never understood is that a good heel isn't one that just knows how to trash talk, a good heel is one that is a threat and a lot of times backs up the trash talk. That's why the public wants him to be beat up in the end by the babyface.
Still is. He’s been running around the past two weeks calling himself king cause two jackasses from another site “like” him, which means now everyone “likes” him. Idiot has been demanding apologies from people when he doesn’t deserve a single apology.
@@error_404.69A good heel is one that is a threat. Good heels a lot of times back up their trash talk either by cheating or by winnin' legitimately. DSP was all bark and no bite. If we are gonna talk in wrestling terms Phil had 'go away' heat during his time in the FGC lol
I think the Joon doc, while not the final, is another nail in Phil's coffin. It's the most passive-aggressive I feel I've ever heard Joon be, which just goes to show how much Phil sucks.
Watching start to finish, you can tell Joon disliked Phil more and more as he researched him. Same thing happened to Null, he originally thought Phil was boring and not worthy of being a lolcow. Then after he was interviewed by Phil he comes out and says "I get why you guys do it now" immediately after. Anyone who interacts with the guy in any way comes away disliking him at the end.
DSP isn't gonna stop streaming till he starts making only 50k a year. As long as shmucks are okay with being lied to and scammed, he's gonna keep going.
no joon fluffed him for future interview potential given hes being farmed by everyone rn joon openly had shit in his video from phils mouth we have evidence he has evidence is a lie
They might have let him get away with that crap out there in Suburbs of Conneticut? But somebody should’ve told Dorothy, the first time u get out of line out here on the Westcoast… u will get checked or a beatdown if that’s what ur asking for!
The doc is exhibit A that there is no "redemption" arc and that the King's Tips are not the felting to detractors that Dave so desperately wants it to be. No amount of money or e-fame will solve DSP's toxic personality or change the fact that he ends each day alone and unloved in the Snort Fort.
Reminder that Justin Wong has also become the butt of a joke via being the recipient of Evo Moment 37 AKA the Daigo Parry. He'll get reminded of how he lost the match and will take it in stride, while DSP is defensive of literally every meme of himself.
I recall Justin actually making a video that was clickbait with that moment in mind too. He 100% owns that moment, because it was simply an epic moment, maybe THE epic moment in FGC history.
I'm watching a guy constantly pausing a video to react to a video of a guy constantly pausing a video of another guy exposing him as a guy who peaked in highschool . What a time to be alive.
The entire reason people had to go to the extraordinary lengths to catalog the things Phil says is because he is so incredibly dishonest. Like most liars, he can't keep his stories straight because he can't remember the lies that he told, even the day before. That is why pig pig go exists. That is why there were bank leaks. If you lie so much that it motivates other people to dig into your life, perhaps it's time for a little introspection.
No way stoopid! It’s OUR FAULT for being obsessed dirty detractor style people! For real though, you’re 100% correct. Just look at his admission of lying about being DFTR, saying he lied for years about it, but he’s definitely telling the truth about selling the account.
@@SimulatedDumplingsit was insane that he expects anyone to believe him after confirming that he is indeed a lying POS. I’m not sure if he is aware how much worse it makes him look or if he even cares.
@@DiscoFinalBoss he’s riding high on the King larp and the Casino dents money. I’m really curious how today is going to go with Craig and how much “support” Phil will get during the interview and the reeee-ack tonight. I don’t think he realizes how bad it looks to admit to being DFTR, after belittling, lying about, and insulting people for saying he is DFTR. He’s been downright nasty over it for years, and to now be like “it was me the whole time and I was the one lying” is insane.
@@SimulatedDumplings I still think KC has a punchline waiting to happen. If not that, they will pull the rug after they have milked all they can from him. I hope he has been saving….I mean hoarding the money he’s making now.
@@DiscoFinalBoss With them insulting both him and his wife there is ZERO reason or possibility that they would just be his friend weeks after the fact.
So the detractors were right about DFTR wwe champions account. For 5+ years. We were right all along..again. The deflection & mental gymnastics going on here are insane.
The small number (800 I think) and level of his competition can be argued, but he did achieve valedictorian, which cannot be argued. That could be he was the smartest of 800 regards for all we know. It is very hard to believe for sure though.
The problem with the heel allegory is that we tend to also like the bad guy by how entertaining he is. The rock had a cocky personality that was abrasive, but he was also funny to watch
10:30 When he said it was boring waiting for your fight, I was just thinking how much fun a lot of people probably have talking to people and watching other games. He missed the entire point that it wasn't even about Phil being harmless, it was about him being nothing.
I think I can add some perspective as someone from an Ivy league. In case anyone is inclined to actually believe that Phil could have gotten into an Ivy league to begin with (I don't think he could get in if he applied every year for the rest of his life), financial aid status has 0 bearing on whether or not you are admitted. The school doesn't care in the slightest so long as they get paid. If he needed financial aid, he could've taken out student loans, gotten merit-based scholarships from the school itself, gotten scholarships from outside sources, tried to work his way through college, or a variety of the four. Any way you slice it, the school would get paid, so the school wouldn't care. I myself got a 75% merit-based scholarship and got federal loans to cover the rest of the cost of tuition. My school was HAPPY to give me such a good scholarship because they wanted me as a student. This whole "oh the Ivy league doesn't like giving scholarships or poor people" thing is total bunk. They love giving out scholarships to competitive students because it means they get the student, the student's numbers, and the benefits that come with those things instead of another Ivy league. Schools, even Ivy leagues, compete over students allllll the time.
The thing about being the heel is everyone is in on it and know its a character.. No one was in on it in the FGC which means he wasnt just being the heel, he was being an asshole and was called out for it but is looking for an excuse. Listen to how he talks about people when he plays SF6 to this day. He calls people a waste of life just because they beat him. Thats not being the heel, thats being a childish man baby who cannot handle the fact he lost so is lashing out.. An asshole.
same here 3 month into being 18 i was off to basic, best decision of my life I grew up fatherless so had a chip on my shoulder the army knocked off for me
Comparing DSP of 15 years ago to his contemporaries (people like NintendoCaprisun, ProtonJon, and Chuggaaconroy who are arguably the REAL grandfathers of Let’s Play) is hilarious, Jon, Tim, and Emile have grown so much. They’ve learned from mistakes and grown after their failures. This is something Phil just can’t do…
It really pisses me off when people do obnoxious and nasty things and they're all serious about it, then when people get offended and call out their shitty behaviour it suddenly changes to "it was just a joke bro, why couldn't you see that?"
Watching him call all his 'trolling' during the early FGC just jokes while simultaneously knowing how much he despises people like Mike Watson, Justin Wong, Alex Valle and especially the Cannon brothers today just makes me shake my head. He doesn't want to have to answer for this stuff anymore because he's "getting too old," but won't own/apologize for his behavior and, more importantly, shut his gob about how the FGC mistreated him and how the Cannon brothers make him fumble every match of every game with rollback netcode.
Him getting so triggered because of what Justin Wong said was hilarious. I wasn’t there either but I too think him acting like a dumbass then crying when confrtonted is funny.
It's that want to move on without actually saying what he needs to in order to move on. Too big of an ego and too much of a contrarian to simply own up. Even if he were still an asshole after, there would be fewer detractors simply because he doesn't lie to everyone about it. Things get uncovered, both through fine and unacceptable means, because he brings so much attention to it while also wagging his finger and saying "nonono you're not allowed". If he just showed his phone no one would be turning over every rock for connections to him and his account, for example
@@hubguyI almost can’t blame him for not showing his phone and continuing the ridiculous WWE Champions lie. There’s just far too much baggage in the past that he’s on the hook for that prevents him from fessing up. If he conned the dents out of money two or three times while simultaneously spending thousands on a gacha game that might be excusable. But this dude went to extremes day after day begging for food money - literally. If he came out and said, sorry dents, I was flush with cash the whole time, even the most dented of dents that gets off on being put down would probably cut ties.
@PeopleRTellingme I don't think so. I think he had/has his dents whittle down to only the most hardcore regarded viewers and it doesn't matter what he does they aren't going anywhere.
@@PeopleRTellingme For sure, but unfortunately for him that almost-pity only comes after he’s already dug himself in too deep. I almost guarantee if Kat doesn’t seize any and all future credit cards he’d be allowed to obtain, bankruptcy 2 will rear its head and he will neither be able to use the same tactic nor is he likely be able to get out of it this time. A sad sight to see but an ever less stable foundation he built himself and now he’s too high up come down and fix it
32:34 surprised you didn't react to the biggest part of this clip. He said he DID ask for his audience to click the ads, then within 2 minutes, said he was demonetized for his audience clicking the ads "which I never asked them to". He admits to it, then lies about it, in the same sentence in real time.
In regards to the 'heel' street fighter comments by DSP, this is a common tactic by people. He knew he was going to be not liked so he would play it as a heel so when he was unlocked he could say no one likes me because of my character I play, not because of who I am really. 100% ego protection. Much like why he plays low tiers in SF, preloaded excuse for losing.
My only two disappointments on this doc is that joon did not include chicken sandwich or the spoon arc's they may not have been major points and feels TH-cam career but those considered most trendy points on social media regarding him
Phil can say whatever he wants about wanting to be the heel of the FGC, but he wasn't using the heel role at all, he wasn't being a charming and entertaining but also intimidating villain that you root against despite having to admit he is good. He was an above average player that just told everyone else to fuck themselves when they had a minor disagreement with him and the way he conducts himself (something that he does to this day proving that is just his normal personality), nobody was amused by the way he acted everyone just wanted to either never have to see him again or to beat him up. Phil instead of reading the room and stopping with his wrestling antics is now calling everyone stupid 20 years later for them being mad that he was being a jerk to them only on the internet where he was safe.
Jaha really could have helped phil if he woulda beat him up, it woulda taught phil his actions have consequences a lesson he has yet to learn into his 40s
@@KairosObj he can try, but he will fail. The links go to HIS videos, so he can't claim they're harming him financially. It's not spreading lies designed to harm him, so it's not slander. It's not providing information that is not publicly available. He would have to get a lawyer to try and shut down a website. And any lawyer worth their license would tell Phil he's got no case.
The amount of times Phailure would pause to REEbunk and have a long speech saying the same thing Joon just said really shows how Phil has no listening skills.
It's amazing that Phil still hangs on the "Heel" excuse. If Phil was a heel he was literally the only person in on it. If people really misunderstood him so much then that's on him to not drop the act and clarify that he doesn't actually think this way. No one remembers fondly DSP showing up to tournaments. No one loved to hate him. He was just an asshole, plain and simple.
If the detractors were right about THE biggest controversy in Phil’s life, what else were we right about that he’s lied to his audience about. His reputation is trashed and now you can assume whenever Phil gives an account contrary to detractors, your safest bet is to assume he’s lying. TLDR; Phil’s COOKED.
Justin owes him an appology. Now Craig owes him an appology. Noticable appology complex to placate his narrative; "I did everything right, I did nothing wrong"
Regarding: Ivy League rejection. Phil overestimates the importance of valedictorian status. There are roughly 26,000 high schools in the United States, so 26,000 valedictorians yearly. Yale and Harvard's total student base is only 38,000 students, including undergraduate and graduate level studies. Obviously, those two schools cannot support taking 26,000 students each year. So yes, other criteria are required as simply being the top of some random-ass high school is not really that impressive in a national sense. Phil likely could have gotten into the next tier of Ivy Leagues or "new Ivys" like Rice in Houston or Vanderbilt in Tennessee, but he wanted to stay near momma in Connecticut. He went to a private jesuit university in his own backyard...one that has an acceptance rate of over 50% and a graduation rate of 82%. This is not dissimilar for states schools in the area such as UConn (54% acceptance, 83% graduation rate) and states schools are way cheaper even in Connecticut. All this assumes his SAT/ACT scores were on the same level...which, as far as I know as a snort-vortex veteran for a decade plus, those results have never been mentioned or confirmed.
I don’t what’s more impressive. The fact that DSP can still lie even when evidence to the contrary is right in his face. Or that there are people out there that STILL believe his lies.
The best part is, we all knew he would go into his manchild charade trying to deny and "justify" everything, at this point he's like Jay Sherman cameo at the simpsons where he yells "It Stinks" over and over to the psychiatrist. That scene is literal DSP in a nutshell.
I dont know why he acts like being a heel character is something you just do randomly and not an agreed upon charater type in wrestling specifically. Like you cant go to work at an office and start slapping peoples papers out of their hands, or telling them youd fight them etc, then claim to be the offices heel when hr is firing you. Even if he 100% went into it with that in mind, thats just not how things work.
"Oh cahm ahhn, I was just being the heel, dood! Look, I have an idea: how about we *pretend* you're firing me, but then just as I get to the door, I turn around and do crotch chops? It'll be so funny, dood, ack ack ack!"
I like that Phil says he was playing a heel persona back in his early days. Brother that’s not a persona, that’s the guy. Phil as usual likes to play tough when he’s sitting inside his house
Ah yes, the classic defense: " I'm not regarded. I was just PRETENDING to be regarded and you all fell for it." Sure Philbert, whatever helps you cope with your embarrassing past.
Phil was telling someone in his chat last week that, although he was now openly whaling out in WWEC, it was ridiculous to think that this new account could catch up with an account he's had for over 7 years. This must have been before he decided he had to "confess".
9:51 So let me see if I got this right Phil was acting like an asshole back then and is now saying that him acting like an asshole and a coward was good thing and is also complaining about people calling him out for being an asshole and a coward
I personally like this approach of reacting to his reaction. Looking forward to it. I would have waited for a weekend livestream too(a react-ception, if you will, would be gold) But this should be great. The curated videos are flawless. It's why he won't mention you too much.
What I hate the most about DSP is his apology fetish. When he himself will never really apologize. Since every apology he's ever made has a but attached to it.
The only "redemption arc" is in Phil's tiny mind. I was actually about to find some respect for him for coming clean about his Champions account finally, then he decided to continue being a pigroach and fabricated another trashy lie. He'll never learn and will always be a liar.
I think there should be a part 2 to DSPs doc because it needs to prove how much of a sell out he is, his admittance to DFTR, and how he continues to absolutely scold his audience when their wallets are low.
🎵Come with me and you'll be, innn a world of pure Pignosis and and delusional imagination.Take a look and you'll see straight through the Pigroach's lies and imagination🎵
I don't even have comments for this stuff anymore, there's just too much stupidity to go over that my brain just jumps from contradiction to contradiction faster than I can even form a coherent line of why what I'm hearing does not make sense. So all the Viscant drama was just a 4D troll OP that DSP was running? And the joke was... Phil is a malicious, socially inept asshole who ruined his friendships and opportunities? Oh gosh, and we were all so stupid that we didn't get the joke. I guess not only is Phil the originator of Lets Plays, he's also his original first detractor as well!! Also, 'I was so drunk I don't remember what I said!', buuuut I'm pretty sure if you tried you could probably guess... because you say the same antagonistic stuff all the time.
Part of DSP's defense is he has so many videos, he tries to catch you in a trap where if you want to back up your claims you have to sift through 65k videos, and he knows you would never do that. However those search engines let anyone confirm detractor claims, or debunk phil's own claims by looking for it.
Does Phil think he is the only person that drinks alcohol or something? Having a body that's consumed more alcohol and drugs than Phil has Door Dash I can say that pointing a camera at a TV to record yourself playing a game while giving commentary is not some sort of skill deserving of praise. He may as well just record himself singing in the shower..... wait didn't he do that too?
DSP admitting to being DownFromTheRafters is something that never would have happened if not for Kino and so while this saga hasn’t been the greatest it’s a perfect appetizer to the arcs that will follow.
This season has been absolutley amazing. So many twists and turns, plot developments, scandals with many a backstab. It's like the TH-cam equivalent of Arrested Development.
I will say that drunk rage does happen, I have a housemate who constantly sends the landlord abusive and drunk texts, when he drinks he gets overconfident and cocky... sounds familiar to me
DSP admmited to being "they call me DSP" And alluded to being downfromtherafters, but his pathetic excuse was "I sold that account" is the most idiotic and childish excuse possible, might as well say "i got hacked by an argentinian style hacker dood". And yet, it's the best excuse he could come up, pathetic.
Remember, before the Joon Doc when he was streaming WWEC, some dent asked him why he wouldn't play on his main account. Phil basically told him he was an idiot and he will not show his 7-year-old account on stream because he doesn't have to. If Phil sold it, then why/how does he have a 7-year-old WWEC account? Guess he didn't think that one through, huh?
The fact that DSP excuses his behavior with: A) I was playing a heel, or B) I was drunk A) tells us that he couldn't sell it. Being a heel needs an active audience to be able to ham it put, to be a mustache twirling bad guy. The HAM. Being online loses a lot of this: your tone, your facial expressions, poses, all things heels use to rile up the crowd. B) tells us that he was drinking so much that he had legitime blackouts. That is not normal at all. I just believe that chronic liar just really was an asshole and a coward. It's more believable since now even DSP admitted that he is DownFromTheRafters (ofc he tries to lie about selling his account but who would believe him now, especially with the correlation with bank leaks and his current spending)
I hate the 'i WaS tHe HeEl' argument. No, DSP. You're just trying to retcon your shitty personality.
It contradicts his "I was an alcoholic" and anger that now one saw his 4th place win as legit.
Why would you be mad that no one took you seriously, while basically saying saying you were playing a character, aka, not serious?
Yeah, it's a really weird way to say "I'm a cringe edgelord that can't figure out how to be anything else"
Same as wings saying he was just being a shock jock
I totally agree. The heel for what reason? The only people interested in that scene were other competitors. He couldn’t have been delusional enough to think there was a crowd to entertain. He’s just always had a toxic personality.
at best he's a toe
dsp is the only man alive who can listen to a direct voiceline of himself speaking and say "thats not what i said"
Phil is the type of person that would refuse to "agree to disagree"
It’s actually insane
He is also the only one to retcon what he said 10 seconds earlier.
so according to him, his whole life has been one big joke on other people. what a sad waste of fucking space
Hey, at least he acknowledges it now...
And life.
And skin.
And air.
😂😂😂
Amen.
In the words of wolverine "you're God's perfect idiot." Let's all make sure we point and laugh at the circus clown.
It’s like the prank videos that go way too far where the person wants to unalive the pranker and he’s running away screaming “it’s just a joke!”
I love how Joon pointed out that a 'heel' is an obnoxious villian who is meant to get knocked on his ass for show and indeed not a bastard everywhere else in life.
"I'm the heel"
"Heels get beaten up"
"OH! Uh I'm a drunk plz spare me"
He clearly doesn't know wrestling very well if he thinks it's the heels job to get beaten up. Of course it happens, but they're often doing the beating.
@@Necroverse19traditionally, the heel’s job is to get the babyface over. In Phil’s case, other channels have had minor success (compared to Phil). So, win?
The difference is heels always have their brief moment where it appears they’re winning the match. There’s no script for dumbass. He was just going down after one punch and praying for mercy after that.
@@Necroverse19True they do some beating during the build up in the story so the heel is a threat and to build some sympathy for the babyface.
But the end is always the heel gettin' defeated by the babyface.
What DSP never understood is that a good heel isn't one that just knows how to trash talk, a good heel is one that is a threat and a lot of times backs up the trash talk. That's why the public wants him to be beat up in the end by the babyface.
The difference between Heels and DSP is that Heels are paid performers while DSP was an obnoxious twat.
Still is. He’s been running around the past two weeks calling himself king cause two jackasses from another site “like” him, which means now everyone “likes” him. Idiot has been demanding apologies from people when he doesn’t deserve a single apology.
People can also get behind a good heel but of course that wasn't Phil
@@error_404.69A good heel is one that is a threat.
Good heels a lot of times back up their trash talk either by cheating or by winnin' legitimately.
DSP was all bark and no bite.
If we are gonna talk in wrestling terms Phil had 'go away' heat during his time in the FGC lol
Phil admitted he’s DownFromTheRafters.
You know, what everyone else knew.
Oh look we were right again… as if anyone thought otherwise… glad he admits he’s a compulsive liar
@@Treerootz1 “The detractors, they were right” as that song goes.
I was never really a tractor. I was just playing a heel character online and Phil took the bait.
100%
The eternal downfall of an eternal victim. A self made victim I might add.
I think the Joon doc, while not the final, is another nail in Phil's coffin. It's the most passive-aggressive I feel I've ever heard Joon be, which just goes to show how much Phil sucks.
Watching start to finish, you can tell Joon disliked Phil more and more as he researched him. Same thing happened to Null, he originally thought Phil was boring and not worthy of being a lolcow. Then after he was interviewed by Phil he comes out and says "I get why you guys do it now" immediately after.
Anyone who interacts with the guy in any way comes away disliking him at the end.
DSP isn't gonna stop streaming till he starts making only 50k a year. As long as shmucks are okay with being lied to and scammed, he's gonna keep going.
no joon fluffed him for future interview potential given hes being farmed by everyone rn
joon openly had shit in his video from phils mouth we have evidence he has evidence is a lie
@@Nomadic_Gaming😂😂😂😂
I think one of my favorite things is every time he would pause and say that was a lie in the doc only to unpause and be immediately exposed as a liar.
He acts like being "the heel" was a paid gig at these events. Like some sort of mascot.
Something nobody ever asked for.
It's weird he didn't drop the act when people were threatening to beat his ass. Almost like it's his real personality.
They might have let him get away with that crap out there in Suburbs of Conneticut? But somebody should’ve told Dorothy, the first time u get out of line out here on the Westcoast… u will get checked or a beatdown if that’s what ur asking for!
The doc is exhibit A that there is no "redemption" arc and that the King's Tips are not the felting to detractors that Dave so desperately wants it to be. No amount of money or e-fame will solve DSP's toxic personality or change the fact that he ends each day alone and unloved in the Snort Fort.
Reminder that Justin Wong has also become the butt of a joke via being the recipient of Evo Moment 37 AKA the Daigo Parry. He'll get reminded of how he lost the match and will take it in stride, while DSP is defensive of literally every meme of himself.
Daigo told justin he was gonna learn today 😂😂😂😂
Yea the thing is Justin Wong is actually good at what he does
I recall Justin actually making a video that was clickbait with that moment in mind too. He 100% owns that moment, because it was simply an epic moment, maybe THE epic moment in FGC history.
Wasnt that the match when Phil picked broken Akuma after Justin made his choice of fighter?
I'm watching a guy constantly pausing a video to react to a video of a guy constantly pausing a video of another guy exposing him as a guy who peaked in highschool . What a time to be alive.
I think you're giving Phil too much credit. Even though he may have peaked in highschool I don't think his peers liked him either
The entire reason people had to go to the extraordinary lengths to catalog the things Phil says is because he is so incredibly dishonest. Like most liars, he can't keep his stories straight because he can't remember the lies that he told, even the day before. That is why pig pig go exists. That is why there were bank leaks. If you lie so much that it motivates other people to dig into your life, perhaps it's time for a little introspection.
No way stoopid! It’s OUR FAULT for being obsessed dirty detractor style people!
For real though, you’re 100% correct. Just look at his admission of lying about being DFTR, saying he lied for years about it, but he’s definitely telling the truth about selling the account.
@@SimulatedDumplingsit was insane that he expects anyone to believe him after confirming that he is indeed a lying POS. I’m not sure if he is aware how much worse it makes him look or if he even cares.
@@DiscoFinalBoss he’s riding high on the King larp and the Casino dents money. I’m really curious how today is going to go with Craig and how much “support” Phil will get during the interview and the reeee-ack tonight. I don’t think he realizes how bad it looks to admit to being DFTR, after belittling, lying about, and insulting people for saying he is DFTR. He’s been downright nasty over it for years, and to now be like “it was me the whole time and I was the one lying” is insane.
@@SimulatedDumplings I still think KC has a punchline waiting to happen. If not that, they will pull the rug after they have milked all they can from him. I hope he has been saving….I mean hoarding the money he’s making now.
@@DiscoFinalBoss With them insulting both him and his wife there is ZERO reason or possibility that they would just be his friend weeks after the fact.
So the detractors were right about DFTR wwe champions account. For 5+ years. We were right all along..again. The deflection & mental gymnastics going on here are insane.
Right? Him owning the meme is just proving he's a lier and should not be trusted. 👍
This is not a win for the detractors though, you know, not like banning Derich.
If DSP was the top student in his school then I'm Albert Einstein.
It's documented that he was and how he got it is anyone's guess
@@error_404.69 autism probably
Maybe that's before he started drowning his brain in gin.
The small number (800 I think) and level of his competition can be argued, but he did achieve valedictorian, which cannot be argued. That could be he was the smartest of 800 regards for all we know. It is very hard to believe for sure though.
The problem with the heel allegory is that we tend to also like the bad guy by how entertaining he is. The rock had a cocky personality that was abrasive, but he was also funny to watch
DSPs entire life was an excuse. That is the common pattern through his whole life. Zero responsibility
10:30 When he said it was boring waiting for your fight, I was just thinking how much fun a lot of people probably have talking to people and watching other games. He missed the entire point that it wasn't even about Phil being harmless, it was about him being nothing.
Bored because he was alone, ostracized, and despised. Unwelcome.
He said godsmacked again hahaha shoutout to Godsmack, I guess.
He IS the one who is so far away.
I think I can add some perspective as someone from an Ivy league. In case anyone is inclined to actually believe that Phil could have gotten into an Ivy league to begin with (I don't think he could get in if he applied every year for the rest of his life), financial aid status has 0 bearing on whether or not you are admitted. The school doesn't care in the slightest so long as they get paid. If he needed financial aid, he could've taken out student loans, gotten merit-based scholarships from the school itself, gotten scholarships from outside sources, tried to work his way through college, or a variety of the four. Any way you slice it, the school would get paid, so the school wouldn't care.
I myself got a 75% merit-based scholarship and got federal loans to cover the rest of the cost of tuition. My school was HAPPY to give me such a good scholarship because they wanted me as a student. This whole "oh the Ivy league doesn't like giving scholarships or poor people" thing is total bunk. They love giving out scholarships to competitive students because it means they get the student, the student's numbers, and the benefits that come with those things instead of another Ivy league. Schools, even Ivy leagues, compete over students allllll the time.
Jaha and Mike didn’t think he was not trying to fight, I’m sure they were shocked at the weird scene they were seeing.
They expected Pigroach to not just be a fake internet tough guy and a bratty mama’s boy dood
The thing about being the heel is everyone is in on it and know its a character.. No one was in on it in the FGC which means he wasnt just being the heel, he was being an asshole and was called out for it but is looking for an excuse.
Listen to how he talks about people when he plays SF6 to this day. He calls people a waste of life just because they beat him. Thats not being the heel, thats being a childish man baby who cannot handle the fact he lost so is lashing out.. An asshole.
He is TOTTALY unaware on how everyone else appart from himself, see and experience the video.
The lack of self-awareness is astounding.
Also his derailing the FGC is not in the past. Dude just tried to play LTG during EVO last year, where he says to literally steal views.
I was a young man once. What what was I doing at his age. Oh that's right on my first deployment in the navy.
Oorah Shipmate. Yea, banging out in Kajaki was not as difficult as streaming in Denton ... pig ups
same here 3 month into being 18 i was off to basic, best decision of my life I grew up fatherless so had a chip on my shoulder the army knocked off for me
Raisin a daughter at 25 working a STUPID amount of overtime trying to get my crap together and get into welding school... (i am now a welder)
Thanks for your service!
I was finishing my masters degree and getting married.
@@shaunmcminn70I really wanted to join a branch like my dad but I have too many health problems. I had just started college when 9/11 happened.
Comparing DSP of 15 years ago to his contemporaries (people like NintendoCaprisun, ProtonJon, and Chuggaaconroy who are arguably the REAL grandfathers of Let’s Play) is hilarious, Jon, Tim, and Emile have grown so much. They’ve learned from mistakes and grown after their failures. This is something Phil just can’t do…
It really pisses me off when people do obnoxious and nasty things and they're all serious about it, then when people get offended and call out their shitty behaviour it suddenly changes to "it was just a joke bro, why couldn't you see that?"
This doc, reaction and the Craig interview had just been so amazing. Literally hanging himself.
Great job covering this car crash for us!
Watching him call all his 'trolling' during the early FGC just jokes while simultaneously knowing how much he despises people like Mike Watson, Justin Wong, Alex Valle and especially the Cannon brothers today just makes me shake my head.
He doesn't want to have to answer for this stuff anymore because he's "getting too old," but won't own/apologize for his behavior and, more importantly, shut his gob about how the FGC mistreated him and how the Cannon brothers make him fumble every match of every game with rollback netcode.
Him getting so triggered because of what Justin Wong said was hilarious. I wasn’t there either but I too think him acting like a dumbass then crying when confrtonted is funny.
It's that want to move on without actually saying what he needs to in order to move on. Too big of an ego and too much of a contrarian to simply own up. Even if he were still an asshole after, there would be fewer detractors simply because he doesn't lie to everyone about it. Things get uncovered, both through fine and unacceptable means, because he brings so much attention to it while also wagging his finger and saying "nonono you're not allowed". If he just showed his phone no one would be turning over every rock for connections to him and his account, for example
@@hubguyI almost can’t blame him for not showing his phone and continuing the ridiculous WWE Champions lie. There’s just far too much baggage in the past that he’s on the hook for that prevents him from fessing up. If he conned the dents out of money two or three times while simultaneously spending thousands on a gacha game that might be excusable. But this dude went to extremes day after day begging for food money - literally. If he came out and said, sorry dents, I was flush with cash the whole time, even the most dented of dents that gets off on being put down would probably cut ties.
@PeopleRTellingme I don't think so. I think he had/has his dents whittle down to only the most hardcore regarded viewers and it doesn't matter what he does they aren't going anywhere.
@@PeopleRTellingme For sure, but unfortunately for him that almost-pity only comes after he’s already dug himself in too deep. I almost guarantee if Kat doesn’t seize any and all future credit cards he’d be allowed to obtain, bankruptcy 2 will rear its head and he will neither be able to use the same tactic nor is he likely be able to get out of it this time. A sad sight to see but an ever less stable foundation he built himself and now he’s too high up come down and fix it
32:34 surprised you didn't react to the biggest part of this clip. He said he DID ask for his audience to click the ads, then within 2 minutes, said he was demonetized for his audience clicking the ads "which I never asked them to". He admits to it, then lies about it, in the same sentence in real time.
If he's a tough guy, then why he's not outside getting a real job?
In regards to the 'heel' street fighter comments by DSP, this is a common tactic by people. He knew he was going to be not liked so he would play it as a heel so when he was unlocked he could say no one likes me because of my character I play, not because of who I am really. 100% ego protection. Much like why he plays low tiers in SF, preloaded excuse for losing.
Absolutely this. It's an ego defense.
My only two disappointments on this doc is that joon did not include chicken sandwich or the spoon arc's they may not have been major points and feels TH-cam career but those considered most trendy points on social media regarding him
Phil can say whatever he wants about wanting to be the heel of the FGC, but he wasn't using the heel role at all, he wasn't being a charming and entertaining but also intimidating villain that you root against despite having to admit he is good. He was an above average player that just told everyone else to fuck themselves when they had a minor disagreement with him and the way he conducts himself (something that he does to this day proving that is just his normal personality), nobody was amused by the way he acted everyone just wanted to either never have to see him again or to beat him up. Phil instead of reading the room and stopping with his wrestling antics is now calling everyone stupid 20 years later for them being mad that he was being a jerk to them only on the internet where he was safe.
I cringe about shit I said last month, how the hell does he look at all this and think "Yeah, that was pretty good actually."
Jaha really could have helped phil if he woulda beat him up, it woulda taught phil his actions have consequences a lesson he has yet to learn into his 40s
Guy named mike taught me after rippin him off on a half at 16 never robbed anyone after that no lie
SECRET LIMITED DESERVES AN APOLOGY
*APOLOGIZE PIGGY*
2:37 maybe now that Phil knows about it, he'll use it to keep the lies straight.
Then again, it's Phil, so doubtful.
I just hope he doesn't get it shut down out of spite.
@@KairosObj he can try, but he will fail. The links go to HIS videos, so he can't claim they're harming him financially. It's not spreading lies designed to harm him, so it's not slander. It's not providing information that is not publicly available.
He would have to get a lawyer to try and shut down a website. And any lawyer worth their license would tell Phil he's got no case.
Bro was blackout drunk but somehow still sober enough the next morning to recollect everything.. Thats not how hangovers work Phil.
"During the FGC days I was extremely toxic and rude to everybody for no reason. Why didn't they appreciate that?"
The amount of times Phailure would pause to REEbunk and have a long speech saying the same thing Joon just said really shows how Phil has no listening skills.
It's amazing that Phil still hangs on the "Heel" excuse. If Phil was a heel he was literally the only person in on it. If people really misunderstood him so much then that's on him to not drop the act and clarify that he doesn't actually think this way. No one remembers fondly DSP showing up to tournaments. No one loved to hate him. He was just an asshole, plain and simple.
If the detractors were right about THE biggest controversy in Phil’s life, what else were we right about that he’s lied to his audience about. His reputation is trashed and now you can assume whenever Phil gives an account contrary to detractors, your safest bet is to assume he’s lying. TLDR; Phil’s COOKED.
The thing is, he might have some people leave, but the rest will still stay.
Justin owes him an appology. Now Craig owes him an appology. Noticable appology complex to placate his narrative; "I did everything right, I did nothing wrong"
His parents pushed him to be the best and this THIS was the end result! I've never felt so bad for ppl I don't know.
Regarding: Ivy League rejection.
Phil overestimates the importance of valedictorian status. There are roughly 26,000 high schools in the United States, so 26,000 valedictorians yearly. Yale and Harvard's total student base is only 38,000 students, including undergraduate and graduate level studies. Obviously, those two schools cannot support taking 26,000 students each year. So yes, other criteria are required as simply being the top of some random-ass high school is not really that impressive in a national sense.
Phil likely could have gotten into the next tier of Ivy Leagues or "new Ivys" like Rice in Houston or Vanderbilt in Tennessee, but he wanted to stay near momma in Connecticut. He went to a private jesuit university in his own backyard...one that has an acceptance rate of over 50% and a graduation rate of 82%. This is not dissimilar for states schools in the area such as UConn (54% acceptance, 83% graduation rate) and states schools are way cheaper even in Connecticut.
All this assumes his SAT/ACT scores were on the same level...which, as far as I know as a snort-vortex veteran for a decade plus, those results have never been mentioned or confirmed.
5:23 How does finishing the whole quote change whether you said it or not Phil? Its a recording of you saying it...
Boy downfromtherafters is really trying hard to convince people he was lying then but not now
I don’t what’s more impressive. The fact that DSP can still lie even when evidence to the contrary is right in his face. Or that there are people out there that STILL believe his lies.
There is so much Karma stacked against him... A downfall that can only be described as glorious is coming.
The best part is, we all knew he would go into his manchild charade trying to deny and "justify" everything, at this point he's like Jay Sherman cameo at the simpsons where he yells "It Stinks" over and over to the psychiatrist.
That scene is literal DSP in a nutshell.
Shoutout to that amazing DOC! and the entire comment section in that video, it's pure gold it needs it's own video.
The Joon Doc REALLY cooked Phil's bacon. (Pun intended)
As a wrestling fan, Phil makes me fucking sick he talks about being a heel, he was a jobber
I’m no debate wizard or anything but, that was fuckin awful. 🤦♂️
To what end would people do that? Its useful when finding receipts on Phil's constant pathological lying and retconing.
21:00 I'll play Tetris drunk sometimes. Sober, I can reliably get to level 15 at a minimum, but when I'm drunk I'm lucky to make it past level 5.
Phil being pushed to be the best just to end up being the worst.
There’s actually plenty of videos of him telling his fans to click on the ads. He was doing it quite a bit.
I dont know why he acts like being a heel character is something you just do randomly and not an agreed upon charater type in wrestling specifically.
Like you cant go to work at an office and start slapping peoples papers out of their hands, or telling them youd fight them etc, then claim to be the offices heel when hr is firing you. Even if he 100% went into it with that in mind, thats just not how things work.
I love the thought of that scenario though 😂
"Oh cahm ahhn, I was just being the heel, dood! Look, I have an idea: how about we *pretend* you're firing me, but then just as I get to the door, I turn around and do crotch chops? It'll be so funny, dood, ack ack ack!"
If my parents drugged me with 50 million mg's of adderall i woulda been valadictorian too😂
I like that Phil says he was playing a heel persona back in his early days. Brother that’s not a persona, that’s the guy. Phil as usual likes to play tough when he’s sitting inside his house
Ah yes, the classic defense:
" I'm not regarded. I was just PRETENDING to be regarded and you all fell for it." Sure Philbert, whatever helps you cope with your embarrassing past.
Phil was telling someone in his chat last week that, although he was now openly whaling out in WWEC, it was ridiculous to think that this new account could catch up with an account he's had for over 7 years. This must have been before he decided he had to "confess".
9:51 So let me see if I got this right Phil was acting like an asshole back then and is now saying that him acting like an asshole and a coward was good thing and is also complaining about people calling him out for being an asshole and a coward
This is the perfect title for the ceaig interview top
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I personally like this approach of reacting to his reaction. Looking forward to it.
I would have waited for a weekend livestream too(a react-ception, if you will, would be gold) But this should be great. The curated videos are flawless. It's why he won't mention you too much.
What I hate the most about DSP is his apology fetish. When he himself will never really apologize. Since every apology he's ever made has a but attached to it.
I love how Joon says Phil. It sounds like fail 😂
The only "redemption arc" is in Phil's tiny mind. I was actually about to find some respect for him for coming clean about his Champions account finally, then he decided to continue being a pigroach and fabricated another trashy lie. He'll never learn and will always be a liar.
i just watched the stream with craig from sidescrollers, Atlus you gonna coom your pants, like i did
You and Piece of Piece are the two main youtube commentariats I enjoy listening to when travel back through the DSP airspace. Keep it up.
I really appreciate that
As usual it needs to be said, the detractors... They were right
Phil saw himself as 1997 Shawn Michaels? With none of the charm, ability, skill or athleticism.
Your ability to pay isn't even considered in the first part of applying for college. They do that in the second part.
DSP and Rich just need to get gay.
What would that solve? Hey, I don't kink shame you.
I think there should be a part 2 to DSPs doc because it needs to prove how much of a sell out he is, his admittance to DFTR, and how he continues to absolutely scold his audience when their wallets are low.
Dsp was thinking for the FGC when he ran away from Jaha he’s the king of optics come on 👑
Joon’s the real King. Phil is the court jester
He went through life without ever hearing the phrase "Talk shit, get hit".
🎵Come with me and you'll be, innn a world of pure Pignosis and and delusional imagination.Take a look and you'll see straight through the Pigroach's lies and imagination🎵
I don't even have comments for this stuff anymore, there's just too much stupidity to go over that my brain just jumps from contradiction to contradiction faster than I can even form a coherent line of why what I'm hearing does not make sense. So all the Viscant drama was just a 4D troll OP that DSP was running? And the joke was... Phil is a malicious, socially inept asshole who ruined his friendships and opportunities? Oh gosh, and we were all so stupid that we didn't get the joke. I guess not only is Phil the originator of Lets Plays, he's also his original first detractor as well!!
Also, 'I was so drunk I don't remember what I said!', buuuut I'm pretty sure if you tried you could probably guess... because you say the same antagonistic stuff all the time.
Was? He still is an obnoxious poser
Almost every single pause is a cope or lie, and he pauses basically once a minute
Part of DSP's defense is he has so many videos, he tries to catch you in a trap where if you want to back up your claims you have to sift through 65k videos, and he knows you would never do that. However those search engines let anyone confirm detractor claims, or debunk phil's own claims by looking for it.
He is the worst there is, the worst there was and the worst there ever will be.
thanks again for the video. I think all this really shows how little he cares about other people.
He's been atrocious lately lol
Does Phil think he is the only person that drinks alcohol or something? Having a body that's consumed more alcohol and drugs than Phil has Door Dash I can say that pointing a camera at a TV to record yourself playing a game while giving commentary is not some sort of skill deserving of praise. He may as well just record himself singing in the shower..... wait didn't he do that too?
Wait Atlus was a kid once? How does that work? Was it a small skeleton?
He drank a lot of milk 😂
DSP admitting to being DownFromTheRafters is something that never would have happened if not for Kino and so while this saga hasn’t been the greatest it’s a perfect appetizer to the arcs that will follow.
No comments from the sixty skulls at the end is straight up criminal.
Another banger video from the skeleton style brother!
This season has been absolutley amazing.
So many twists and turns, plot developments, scandals with many a backstab.
It's like the TH-cam equivalent of Arrested Development.
He was the heel, dood. That's why he still holds grudges against the people in the FGC.
I will say that drunk rage does happen, I have a housemate who constantly sends the landlord abusive and drunk texts, when he drinks he gets overconfident and cocky... sounds familiar to me
DSP admmited to being "they call me DSP" And alluded to being downfromtherafters, but his pathetic excuse was "I sold that account" is the most idiotic and childish excuse possible, might as well say "i got hacked by an argentinian style hacker dood". And yet, it's the best excuse he could come up, pathetic.
Remember, before the Joon Doc when he was streaming WWEC, some dent asked him why he wouldn't play on his main account. Phil basically told him he was an idiot and he will not show his 7-year-old account on stream because he doesn't have to. If Phil sold it, then why/how does he have a 7-year-old WWEC account? Guess he didn't think that one through, huh?
I hate DSP
The fact that DSP excuses his behavior with: A) I was playing a heel, or B) I was drunk
A) tells us that he couldn't sell it. Being a heel needs an active audience to be able to ham it put, to be a mustache twirling bad guy. The HAM. Being online loses a lot of this: your tone, your facial expressions, poses, all things heels use to rile up the crowd.
B) tells us that he was drinking so much that he had legitime blackouts. That is not normal at all.
I just believe that chronic liar just really was an asshole and a coward. It's more believable since now even DSP admitted that he is DownFromTheRafters (ofc he tries to lie about selling his account but who would believe him now, especially with the correlation with bank leaks and his current spending)