Oh man! This, the Sm7b and the Focusrite 2i2 were what let me get into actual audiobook production. With a good dynamic and this tool, you can turn in radio-ready audio without having much ,if anything, in the way of soundproofing. Wonderful stuff!
Just upgrading to a RE-20 mic, and now adding a dbx 286s before my SSL2 interface. This video was super helpful! I already have a cloudlifter, so i'll just leave it in the chain before the 286s for extra clean gain, and keep the 286s turned down. I wish I had watched this old video on the 286s as I would have not gotten the cloudlifter, just the 286s! Great video, even your old ones are a gem.
You used way too much de-essing and with the SM7B you dont really need it since the SM7B cuts out a lot of those sibilant high ends. Outside of that the Pre sounds great.
I love the preamp. Before I got this, my interface struggled with a nearly maxed out gain to get decent sound. Now it's at zero and I let the dbx do the heavy lifting. Definitely takes some time to get the settings right but it's a must have for streamers that scream a lot and murder your ear drums.
This really is a nice device. For those wanting to use a stand-alone preamp like this, if you want the clearest signal possible be sure to use an audio interface or DAC where you can bypass any microphone preamps they may have onboard.
Definitely a super economic, effective, and robust pre-amp/processing chain. It's perfect for broadcasting, and useful in a recording context. I record with it all the time, and it's a good way to tame the incoming signal for further processing. The gate/expander is particularly useful for me, since I have a bedroom studio with a computer running nearby. Good stuff, and worth every dollar.
Definitely getting one of these. I've started doing fiction audiobooks, and have had a hell of a time dealing with clipping when a character screams and yells.
Just got this and used it with my cloud lifter and sm7b and holy shit. The gain is set at 20 and it blows my ears away! Everything is crystal clear.highly recommend for professionals and enthusiasts.
Very good review, what was missing is that you didn't throw the box towards the back door, that makes you unique, don't stop throwing the boxes, it doesn't matter the size!
Great review! As for what could be done better: for most users, it would be awesome if this had good enough audio interface integrated to avoid using another interface like Focusrite. Other than that, lower noise floor for mic amp would be even better but this is awesome already! And I think most users would prefer power button in the front of the unit. Having to cut the power from the mains power seems a bit ugly.
You arent supposed to hit the 6dB (red light.) That's why it sounds not good. If you say "ssssss" then set it to where the green light just goes on at full brightness, it's more than enough and it doesn't sound like there is a de-esser at all. It just removes a bit of the painfullness at that point.
@@TheTopMostDog "Hence Me Saying" Howabout Getting The Equipment & Tweaking The Knob/Button However "YOU LIKE..." Since You Never Liked The De-esser Setting Demonstrated On The Video? 🤷♂️
As old as this video is, I just bought one and I love it. I use it for vocals and just wanted some hardware to process going into my DAW. I know there are better preamps out there but for the overall price (which I bought used) for a home studio setup, I think it fits. The DIY vocal booth (pvc and moving blankets) I have in my walk-in closet just isn't enough, especially using an NT1. I'll work with this for a couple of years and upgrade as I save money!
Two questions: 1) Does using a DBX 286s pre-amp void the need for a Cloudlifter CL-1? 2) Can one connect multiple dynamic mics into one DBX 286s rack mountable unit? Thanks.
I think if you have the space and the money, get the rack! Better controls quality amp. But one rack is for one mic. The input allows one mic input. Cloud lifter has bigger units to allow for more mics
Hi sir, I watched many of your videos, all are so great!! I would like to know is it recommend to pair Rode NT1 with DBX 286s? Because some review say this DBX device is made for dynamic mic only. Hope can get your reply. Thanks
You really don't want to buy one of these things, they sound awful. If you want a good cheap compressor, or limiter try the FMR RNC, or FMR RNLA. They are much more transparent and do a better job compressing and limiting audio.
@@ES-qm5hr I didn’t have any experience with the devices you mentioned, but I do own a dbx 286s. And while I’m pretty certain there are better devices (since it’s an entry level device), I am very happy with what it provides. There is no contest when comparing raw output and the sound I’m getting through dbx (mic is re20). And you get EQ, compression and noisegate/limiter in one package, which is very handy. So I strongly disagree with the notion of its sound being awful.
@@randomguy9802 Someone gave me a dbx 286s a long side a couple of other rack effects I bought. I ABed it with a bunch of other compressors and limiters I have and it came out the worst. It's hard to tell the difference without having a bunch of compressors to compare side by side. My feeling is it's too colored to make a good compressor for voices, especially all the other effects. You kind of want a compressor to do its job without altering the sound of your voice too much. The expresser and expander parts seem basically useless because of how bad they sound. That is why I recommended the RNC and RNLA because they are basically the same price and perform much better. They are far more natural sounding. They are probably the best low budget compressors on the market.
Request for clarity: How does the Threshold work on the Gate/Expander? Does it actually remove the background noise? Or does it just mute everything if the overall volume is below a certain point and conversely let everything through (including background noise) if the overall volume exceeds the threshold? I'm pretty sure it's the latter. If so you might be giving some of your viewers unrealistic expectations.
I still don't understand how you don't get more views. I mean this video is friggin gold right here. HOW ARE YOU NOT FAMOUS?! lol. Thank you for this information.
Podcastage Absolutely, I would click on that. Go down to your local gym and collab with a hot girl. there's channels out there that mix different foods together. When it comes to TH-cam you just got to think outside of the box and try new things, do things other people haven't thought of. Your channel also doesn't have to just be all about Mics you could do mic reviews only on Mondays and then do something completely different on Tuesdays for example. That way you get to express multiple hobbies and you won't get bored and you train your audience when to watch. Just an idea. I've done plenty of TH-cam research and could help you out quite a bit if you need it. The new TH-cam trick is to do the loop-back trick. It's a way of "gaming" the youtube system and is very effective. It keeps people in a constant cycle of watching your video. It's how Jake Paul and Logan secretly and sneaky get millions of views. They create a fake front and appear to diss each other which creates drama and then people pick team Jake or team logan. The viewer will watch logan video and then be recommended by youtube to watch Jake video. Or be outraged and want to comment on the other channel. This creates a cycle. Other channels will involve 5-8 channel for a circle cycle. Anytime you see channels that frequently recommend each other or group of channels this is what they are doing in order to get more views and subs and watch time. it's one big game. I hope this was helpful.
I love the 286! It’s really awesome for dialing in sound and not having to fiddle in a DAW too much for post. I have the a and the xs sonically they sound the same to me. I recommend it to basically anyone using an SM7b and doing spoken word (Voice overs, podcasts, etc).
There's very few options that are alternatives to this if you want hardware options. The behringer is an option. There are digital interfaces that offer DSP. But as far as analog stuff at this price, it's about it.
Hi. Love the reviews. Thanks for the hard work. Just curious if there are newer versions of similar equipment that you would recommend. I like what this does, but the tech is 5-6 years old (at least). I'm sure since then that there is newer, better, cheaper stuff out there. Any suggestions, or is this still the one with your stamp of approval? Thanks. Great video, by the way. (and sorry if my previous comment still went through. I think I deleted it on accident)
Well... there is better. I suggest the Wheatstone M1 Digital Voice Processor. It's is awesome. I did have to laugh when you said cheaper. You can't even get this DBX for 200 anymore... it is now 240. However... the DBX286 is still the best bang for your buck in the low budget arena. If you can't afford $240... you really need to use your DAW to clean up your audio until you can save up.
I got both the DBX 286S and the GoXLR I use all the processors on the DBX and just use the interface + sampler and faders on the GoXLR, I really like the 80hz high-pass filter on the DBX.
This is the best dbx286 tutorial except for the lack of explaining the insert. I bought an Aphex Exciter but I'm not sure how to tie it in to the Dbx, or if I just wasted my money and it does the same thing that the Dbx HF and LF do.
Hi , I’ve just got the dbx and when I switch it on from the power supply. It produces weird electric noise thing from the device which makes me nervous. Help..!
I had this problem too, so I sent back for a new one, the sound isn't as apparent now. They are sensitive to line noise and so on, the first copy may have been faulty.
Hey which trs to trs cable (brand and model number) shall I buy for connecting the dbx to the sound interface. How much length will it need ? Please respond
any decent quality brand will be just fine, and length depends on how far your interface is from the pre. 6ft is probably enough but that's a huge variable.
@@RestLess-MinD absolutely. That said, the signal is traveling at the speed of light through that copper cable. It's probably 60-80% of the speed through vacuum. You'd need a cable to the moon to get a 1 second delay.
Podcastage i saw on ur video mic connect to dbx286s then to sound interface then to pc, if i buy the dbx286s , is my cloudlifter still needed? Should i still use it ? I use bp 40 audio technica
First of all I would like to mention that I am one of your fans and I would like to thank you for your effort…I would like you to recommend a smaller version of the DBX 286s in which that it can be easy for traveling and it has almost the same features, thank you and waiting for your reply.
Just a question, does one require an additional DBX 286 pre-amp / processor for each pair of channels that one is using? Thus if one is shooting for a four or six channel system capacity, I guess one would need three DBX 286's to be able to support upwards of five guest. So I hope my aims are not too high, as in the long run of things I should be hosing a lot of group section on the prototypical subject of ulta-high security solutions and biomathematics.
You can’t connect two mics to this channel strip. This is a mono channel strip. So if you want to run two mics through a dbx286s, you would need two of them. Then you would need a 2 channel interface in order to connect the DBX286s’ to your computer since these are preamps/channel strips, and do not have any interface capabilities.
This pre amp / processor sounds great, but it only has one input, do you know anything similar to this but with 2 inputs? because I suppose you can't use both inputs at once right?
It doesn't have two preamps, it's just a processor, but the 266XS does have two channels so you can use compression & noise gate on two mics: amzn.to/2hpNhtp
I think that may be the better option. I rarely use the De-Esser or enhancer, so it would have done everything I needed but with 2 channels. Let me know how it goes.
just wondering if you are still using this. I have a small community radio station and this was gifted to the station...266SX. Seriously thinking of putting this in my setup.
Im listening to your video through monitor speakers. it sounds like you have a lisp through alot of the video. its almost to much compression or something .
Scarlet solo doesn't have a dedicated line input. If your pair it with a dbx286s you won't truly pass the internal pre-amps of the interface. As far as I know, 4i4 has dedicated line inputs at the back of it.
@@dunste123 not really if you use the sm7b you have to put the gain at 55-60 for it to sound good. I have the goxlr with sm7b and no cloudlifter and im thinking of getting this. I have videos in my channel with demos of sound with goxlr and sm7b with no cloudlifter.
@@dunste123 i did just that and it magnifies the sounds in my room. It has noise gate but everytime i speak there is interference. If you dont get the cloudlifter you will hsve yo sound treat your room really well. Again check my channel and see how the quality is. Not very good.
One more question please: I have purchased this unit and I do not use a rack to mount it into. I am trying to arrange it on my desk but I like to know about stacking electronics and proximity effect to other electronics and signal/ noise interference. I do not know who well-shielded this unit or other equipment are. Here is my question, If I stack a Motu m2 on thop of this, will it cause issues with noise, hiss, hummm, etc? what if it is close to a Bose soundbar (or one sitting on top of the dbx? any thoughts? I appreciate any input you may have. Thank you again for all you do.
It's been a while since you posted this comment, but no. They're made to mount into racks with a bunch of other gear. I have a couple pieces of gear stacked on top of my desk. The best advice I can give is just to keep your audio cables and your power cables away from eachother if you're worried about noise.
Hello my friend. I have a question for you. I have Audio Technica at2035 with Line 6 UX2, and I am thinking about buying this product that you are reviewing in this video. Will I be able to use the DBX with the UX2 properly, or I will have to remove the UX2?
I did not lend it to booth junkie. I've never spoken to the guy. It was just a happy accident that mine came out around the same time as his review. It's been on my schedule for like 2 months now.
This may have already been asked, but I'm gonna ask anyway..... I found a bundle with this and an sm7b, all together. My question is: Will I necessarily NEED to get a cloudlifter or can the dbx power a gain hungry mic like the sm7b on its own (and run it quietly)?Looking forward to your answer, as I can't wait to pull the trigger on the bundle, especially if I can save some $ by not meeding the cloudlifter 😉
I have a Behringer Xenyx X2222 Mixer with Channel Inserts for FXs. My current set-up I have the Shure SM7b microphone plugged into a Cloudlifter, then going in to my mixer. I'm thinking about purchasing the DBX286 to use with SM7b instead of the Cloudlifter. I would be using the DBX286 as a preamp mainly. If I plug the XLR cable from the microphone directly into Channel 1 on the mixer, then send the signal out the Channel Insert on the mixer to the DBX 286 and then back to the mixer, would this work? I've never used the Channel Inserts on my mixer before, but from what I understand the audio gets replaced coming back in to the mixer.
i know what I'm about to ask doesn't relate to this video..but..i have a very low budget right now..so I'm thinking of buying the behringer xm8500 for recording songs..so is it worth it..? ps: i don't want to buy a condenser microphone right now as my room isn't completely noise proof...
Hello earthling, did you connect the DBX output to the XLR or the TRS input of the scarlett? As far as I am concerned, it is better to connect it to the TRS, in order to skip the mic preamp of the scarlett.
Did you connect it with a trs trs cable or used a trs to xlr cable to the scarlett solo? Cause the solo has a line in for instrumental and a xlr for a mic..
Chryys that's because it really isn't! Often times those clickbait videos are just there to tease the viewers or for the youtuber to put across a point with so much fillers(otherwise, the video would only last 30 seconds).
Thanks for doing this, Bandrew!!! Great job -- just enough detail. I am impressed with how quiet the pre-amp is, all the way up to 60dB. It looks like you're using only about 45db, for the SM7B? and with no Cloudlifter (for this test)? Sounds great. I thought you'd need it at 60 for that mic. Cool! In Windows 8.1, I do add a bit of extra boost from the Solo, but set minus-30dB from the DBX output gain -- I'll have to try what you're doing. With a condenser mic I set the DBX just over 45dB, but a few clicks short of 60 for dynamic mics. Anyway, the noise gate is fantastic -- totally kills the usual ambient sounds of the room and also, I find, any mic "self-noise". I don't think you said how you're connecting the DBX to the Solo, but I'm guessing 1/4 inch plugs at both ends -- which is good, but I find if I use a 1/4-inch to XLR cable, and plug into the Solo's mic (XLR) input, it more easily allows me the stereo-tracks look in Audacity that I'm used to. Thanks for letting me compare notes. I hope lots of your listeners will give this gear a try, and they will thank you for it. Have a great July 4th!!!
Dan Magoo Yes I'm using ~45dB of gain. The compressor and everything make up for the quiet signal. And I'm using 1/4" to XLR to connect it to the solo.
Andrew Sheppard, the ones I've used are TRS (both the 1/4" to XLR that I prefer, and the 1/4" to 1/4" that I tried), and that works fine -- not sure if TS would be OK as well. I also have a short XLR patch cable (male to female) for the DBX's mic input, so I can swap out mics without having to reach blindly behind the box, and I've been very happy with the cabling set-up, and with this product.
I cant help but to notice this is currently about the same price as the cloudlifter, is it safe to assume I could use this as a compressor + a db gain instead of a cloudlifter?
As far as I can see, i COULD connect a DBX 286s to a MOTU M4 but NOT to an SSL2+? because i heard the line inputs on the M4 bypass the motu preamps... can someone confirm?! SO, IF TRUE, HOW COULD I USE A DBX 286S WITH AN SSL2+??!!
Hello. Thank you for posting. I have recently picked one of these units and like to know what kind of interface you recommend to send the signal to? I have watched many setup videos and only Booth Junkie mentions very briefly to connect to Audient iD4. I am looking for a unit that does not require any drivers of additional applications to use. I will connect this to a work computer where I cannot upload drivers or additional software. what are your recommendations? Please advise. thank you in advance.
I am tired of audio interfaces having driver issues and coming to be DOA with lacklustre support to no support at all. I have decided to use this device connected to my ALC1220 motherboard audio and it should work.
Hi Bandrew. Bought mine today in Brisbane Australia. It has not been available for over a year so have been hanging out for it. I know exchange rates come to play but it makes me cry when I see how much cheaper gear is in the USA. I paid $339 Australian dollars. I'm sure it will be worth every penny. Anyway, luv ya posts. 1 question. What is all the gear in your rack?
Are there any really good devices or post processing applications that are effective at removing echo / audio reflections? I know the obvious answer is to go into a different recording environment, or acoustically treat the one you're in, or to use a different microphone. That's just it though. My situation is that I'm in a bedroom with a lot of flat, hard surfaces. I have an Audio Technica ATR 2100 cardiod dynamic that I just replaced with an AKG D7 super cardiod dynamic. Those mics work just fine, though I'm looking to boost the signal for my AKG D7 more cleanly. I currently own a Mackie 402 VLZ4, Zoom H4n Pro, and Tascam DR100 MKii as well. (no i dont use both recorders simultaneously) That all said for the purposes of appearing on video using my Canon Rebel EOS T6i HDSLR camera I bought a countryman b6 omnidirectional condenser lapel mic a while back before I moved. Applying acoustic treatments to the walls in my environment isn't really the option I want to go with mainly due to the cost and time involved with having to one day remove those treatments (I rent). Sooooooooooo... I'm looking for a way to either A) use my countryman b6 while getting rid of most/all reflections somehow, without using treatments on the walls, OR B) just buy the Shure WH20XLR Dynamic Headset Microphone, put the countryman b6 away .. maybe even sell it, i dunno.. lol.. Any thoughts on this?
Awesome. I'll look into that. I've got Audition CS6, and..well some other stuff. And of course will try audacity, just cuz.. it's audacity. Also the Aphex Channel Master Preamplifier and Input Processor looks amazing. /sigh. Just another $2,000.00 of audio gear and I'll be about where I wanna be I think. =)
I fell in love with the Dbx 286s thanks to this neat review, but for some reason mine is very noisy. On top of that, if I set the De-esser at 4KHz, it starts to produce a crazy larsen-like whistle sound. Any idea why that could happen?
Great review! Thinking of getting one for the podcasts, webinars, etc. that I regularly do. Any other similar units to consider? What are some good USB audio interface options?
This is probably a stupid question, so apologies. Is there something like this that’s not rack mounted? Essentially would love to have something like this to plug my Rode NTG4 into before my 2i2 but I don’t have a whole lot of room (I keep the 2i2 in the cabinet next to my games console) and I’m not really sure what to google.
Hello, thanks for the wonderful review 👍🏼Is there a big difference if you compare preamp self-noise between the Scarlett vs the DBX? I already own Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen and planning to get the DBX so I use its preamp (no processing) instead of Scarlett's built-in preamp. Am I making a right decision?
I like the improved control over the compressor, and equalization on the THREEQ, however, you're missing out on the noise gate & deesser. That's up to you if you think you'll need these features.
Hey bandrew. I mentioned the mackie onyx artist and producer interfaces in another video, but I got the artist model today (smaller $99 one). The build quality is phenomenal. You're gonna like this one a lot if you get a chance to review it.
I'm trying to figure out if I need DBX 286, cloudlifter, or both with the Shure SM7b for recording singing vocals. I keep getting background noise and I'm thinking it's from the preamp/audiointerface gain. Will the DBX286 be enough or do I need cloudlifter too? Vice versa. I have a GoldenAge Preamp 73 into Focusrite 6i6.
Hi there Bandrew! I know there've been raving reviews on this unit for VO and streaming applications. Would you recommend this preamp to home musicians as well (vs. some of the more colored preamps that may not have similar features such as the dbx like Gate, de-esser, compressor)?
Not that I'm aware of at this time. The Helicon GoXLR is coming out mid december and should offer some similar functionality with a USB audio interface as well. We'll see how good it actually is though.
Hey Bandrew, quick question. When connecting the dbx 286s to your audio interface, do you use a trs to xlr cable? or do you use trs to trs? Also, could I use the gain from both my scarlett interface AND the gain from the dbx 286s to boost my mic? or should i leave interface gain off and only use the gain from the dbx? any advice would be greatly appreciated. By the way, my set up currently is Shure SM7B into DBX 286S into Scarlett 2i2 interface with a balanced trs to trs cable.
That's the goal. Use the DBX pre and avoid any kind of impact from the Focusrite. Don't recall what I was using here if it was 1/4 Line in or XLR. If I was using XLR, that's not the ideal way to connect it. It should be connected with a 1/4" input set to line level.
Oh man! This, the Sm7b and the Focusrite 2i2 were what let me get into actual audiobook production. With a good dynamic and this tool, you can turn in radio-ready audio without having much ,if anything, in the way of soundproofing. Wonderful stuff!
Danke!
Thank you so much!
Bandrew, I've been binge watching Podcastage for the past week. Love it! I also have enjoyed watching your room fill with equipment. Great work.
Just upgrading to a RE-20 mic, and now adding a dbx 286s before my SSL2 interface. This video was super helpful! I already have a cloudlifter, so i'll just leave it in the chain before the 286s for extra clean gain, and keep the 286s turned down. I wish I had watched this old video on the 286s as I would have not gotten the cloudlifter, just the 286s! Great video, even your old ones are a gem.
You used way too much de-essing and with the SM7B you dont really need it since the SM7B cuts out a lot of those sibilant high ends. Outside of that the Pre sounds great.
What do you mean, too much de-ething? I thought it thounded great!
@@zachvandyke2556 mike tython approvthd
I love the preamp. Before I got this, my interface struggled with a nearly maxed out gain to get decent sound. Now it's at zero and I let the dbx do the heavy lifting. Definitely takes some time to get the settings right but it's a must have for streamers that scream a lot and murder your ear drums.
glad i do not watch of them
I have the older A version (DBX 286A) which is basically the same thing and I absolutely love it..Best purchase i've ever made on audio equipment :).
Yeah! This is probably my favorite purchase of the last year.
:D.
I have my DBX 286s coming in a couple of days. I know it is going to help the quality of my TH-cam streams and recording no end. Cant wait!
This really is a nice device. For those wanting to use a stand-alone preamp like this, if you want the clearest signal possible be sure to use an audio interface or DAC where you can bypass any microphone preamps they may have onboard.
Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming elaborate please.
Are you saying to make sure the USB interface's preamp can be bypassed?
Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming ,thanks for your advice iwas locking for
Definitely a super economic, effective, and robust pre-amp/processing chain. It's perfect for broadcasting, and useful in a recording context. I record with it all the time, and it's a good way to tame the incoming signal for further processing.
The gate/expander is particularly useful for me, since I have a bedroom studio with a computer running nearby. Good stuff, and worth every dollar.
Definitely getting one of these. I've started doing fiction audiobooks, and have had a hell of a time dealing with clipping when a character screams and yells.
Just got this and used it with my cloud lifter and sm7b and holy shit. The gain is set at 20 and it blows my ears away! Everything is crystal clear.highly recommend for professionals and enthusiasts.
Very good review, what was missing is that you didn't throw the box towards the back door, that makes you unique, don't stop throwing the boxes, it doesn't matter the size!
Great review!
As for what could be done better: for most users, it would be awesome if this had good enough audio interface integrated to avoid using another interface like Focusrite. Other than that, lower noise floor for mic amp would be even better but this is awesome already!
And I think most users would prefer power button in the front of the unit. Having to cut the power from the mains power seems a bit ugly.
I really don't like the de-esser on that setting. Sounds muffled, imho.
Well, Good News 😂
That's Just A Demonstration, Smart Ass 🙄
Buy The Equipment & Tweak The Settings However The Hell You Want 🤷♂️
@@MusaDays808 Hence me saying "on that setting"?
You arent supposed to hit the 6dB (red light.)
That's why it sounds not good.
If you say "ssssss" then set it to where the green light just goes on at full brightness, it's more than enough and it doesn't sound like there is a de-esser at all.
It just removes a bit of the painfullness at that point.
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Surprised I missed that. Cheers for pointing it out!
@@TheTopMostDog "Hence Me Saying" Howabout Getting The Equipment & Tweaking The Knob/Button However "YOU LIKE..." Since You Never Liked The De-esser Setting Demonstrated On The Video? 🤷♂️
As old as this video is, I just bought one and I love it. I use it for vocals and just wanted some hardware to process going into my DAW. I know there are better preamps out there but for the overall price (which I bought used) for a home studio setup, I think it fits. The DIY vocal booth (pvc and moving blankets) I have in my walk-in closet just isn't enough, especially using an NT1. I'll work with this for a couple of years and upgrade as I save money!
why is the "NOT CLICKBAIT" needed in the title???????
Two questions: 1) Does using a DBX 286s pre-amp void the need for a Cloudlifter CL-1? 2) Can one connect multiple dynamic mics into one DBX 286s rack mountable unit? Thanks.
I think if you have the space and the money, get the rack! Better controls quality amp.
But one rack is for one mic. The input allows one mic input. Cloud lifter has bigger units to allow for more mics
Hi sir, I watched many of your videos, all are so great!!
I would like to know is it recommend to pair Rode NT1 with DBX 286s?
Because some review say this DBX device is made for dynamic mic only.
Hope can get your reply. Thanks
it can definitely take condenser mics as well
You really don't want to buy one of these things, they sound awful. If you want a good cheap compressor, or limiter try the FMR RNC, or FMR RNLA. They are much more transparent and do a better job compressing and limiting audio.
@@ES-qm5hr I didn’t have any experience with the devices you mentioned, but I do own a dbx 286s. And while I’m pretty certain there are better devices (since it’s an entry level device), I am very happy with what it provides. There is no contest when comparing raw output and the sound I’m getting through dbx (mic is re20). And you get EQ, compression and noisegate/limiter in one package, which is very handy.
So I strongly disagree with the notion of its sound being awful.
@@randomguy9802 Someone gave me a dbx 286s a long side a couple of other rack effects I bought. I ABed it with a bunch of other compressors and limiters I have and it came out the worst. It's hard to tell the difference without having a bunch of compressors to compare side by side.
My feeling is it's too colored to make a good compressor for voices, especially all the other effects. You kind of want a compressor to do its job without altering the sound of your voice too much. The expresser and expander parts seem basically useless because of how bad they sound.
That is why I recommended the RNC and RNLA because they are basically the same price and perform much better. They are far more natural sounding. They are probably the best low budget compressors on the market.
We love our DBX 286s and use while recording training sessions. Great review!
Request for clarity: How does the Threshold work on the Gate/Expander? Does it actually remove the background noise? Or does it just mute everything if the overall volume is below a certain point and conversely let everything through (including background noise) if the overall volume exceeds the threshold? I'm pretty sure it's the latter. If so you might be giving some of your viewers unrealistic expectations.
So technically there's no need for another pre-amp like a cloudlifter or fethead?
For the sm7b you need another preamp.
@@TassosPhotographyStudio do you know how well it works with the EV re 320?
@@TassosPhotographyStudio I use it without a preamp as the 286s has plenty of gain.
@@BrianMackey2010 yes i want to know about the EV320 too with this set up
Trakman it works great. I have a neauman mic now but it’s great with the 320
What would you guys recommend if I wanted a 2 mic setup with voice editing in real time.
Two DBX 286s for sure.
Do i need a cloudlifter in combination with the shure sm7b and the dbx 286s?
In some videos they say yes in other no🧐
I still don't understand how you don't get more views. I mean this video is friggin gold right here. HOW ARE YOU NOT FAMOUS?! lol. Thank you for this information.
Because it's not "clickbait" hahahaha! And thanks man! Happy to know you enjoyed it.
Edward Berry it's not rocket science. Not very many people type in dbx 286s into the search box. DUH
FLOODOFSINS Wait! THEY DON'T!?!? Should my next video be called "Hot Girl Kissing Prank Gone Wrong"
Podcastage Absolutely, I would click on that. Go down to your local gym and collab with a hot girl. there's channels out there that mix different foods together. When it comes to TH-cam you just got to think outside of the box and try new things, do things other people haven't thought of. Your channel also doesn't have to just be all about Mics you could do mic reviews only on Mondays and then do something completely different on Tuesdays for example. That way you get to express multiple hobbies and you won't get bored and you train your audience when to watch. Just an idea. I've done plenty of TH-cam research and could help you out quite a bit if you need it. The new TH-cam trick is to do the loop-back trick. It's a way of "gaming" the youtube system and is very effective. It keeps people in a constant cycle of watching your video. It's how Jake Paul and Logan secretly and sneaky get millions of views. They create a fake front and appear to diss each other which creates drama and then people pick team Jake or team logan. The viewer will watch logan video and then be recommended by youtube to watch Jake video. Or be outraged and want to comment on the other channel. This creates a cycle. Other channels will involve 5-8 channel for a circle cycle. Anytime you see channels that frequently recommend each other or group of channels this is what they are doing in order to get more views and subs and watch time. it's one big game. I hope this was helpful.
I love the 286! It’s really awesome for dialing in sound and not having to fiddle in a DAW too much for post. I have the a and the xs sonically they sound the same to me. I recommend it to basically anyone using an SM7b and doing spoken word (Voice overs, podcasts, etc).
Hi brother, quick question for you. 6 years later, you’ll still recomend that 1?
Thanks bro! Big up!!
There's very few options that are alternatives to this if you want hardware options. The behringer is an option. There are digital interfaces that offer DSP. But as far as analog stuff at this price, it's about it.
Hi.
Love the reviews. Thanks for the hard work.
Just curious if there are newer versions of similar equipment that you would recommend. I like what this does, but the tech is 5-6 years old (at least). I'm sure since then that there is newer, better, cheaper stuff out there.
Any suggestions, or is this still the one with your stamp of approval?
Thanks. Great video, by the way. (and sorry if my previous comment still went through. I think I deleted it on accident)
Well... there is better. I suggest the Wheatstone M1
Digital Voice Processor. It's is awesome. I did have to laugh when you said cheaper. You can't even get this DBX for 200 anymore... it is now 240. However... the DBX286 is still the best bang for your buck in the low budget arena. If you can't afford $240... you really need to use your DAW to clean up your audio until you can save up.
I got both the DBX 286S and the GoXLR I use all the processors on the DBX and just use the interface + sampler and faders on the GoXLR, I really like the 80hz high-pass filter on the DBX.
This is the best dbx286 tutorial except for the lack of explaining the insert. I bought an Aphex Exciter but I'm not sure how to tie it in to the Dbx, or if I just wasted my money and it does the same thing that the Dbx HF and LF do.
Hi , I’ve just got the dbx and when I switch it on from the power supply. It produces weird electric noise thing from the device which makes me nervous. Help..!
I had this problem too, so I sent back for a new one, the sound isn't as apparent now. They are sensitive to line noise and so on, the first copy may have been faulty.
Hey which trs to trs cable (brand and model number) shall I buy for connecting the dbx to the sound interface. How much length will it need ? Please respond
any decent quality brand will be just fine, and length depends on how far your interface is from the pre. 6ft is probably enough but that's a huge variable.
also if its too long you will have delay
@@RestLess-MinD eh, not really. if its a super long run, maybe. but the interface is gonna cause more latency than a cable.
@@RestLess-MinD absolutely. That said, the signal is traveling at the speed of light through that copper cable. It's probably 60-80% of the speed through vacuum. You'd need a cable to the moon to get a 1 second delay.
If i have the preamp, is my cloudlifter still needed?
Are you saying you ahve the DBX286s? What mic do you have?
Podcastage i saw on ur video mic connect to dbx286s then to sound interface then to pc, if i buy the dbx286s , is my cloudlifter still needed? Should i still use it ? I use bp 40 audio technica
If DBX286 and SM7B would you still suggest having a CL-1 and then still need a 2i2/UMC204HD to PC?
podcastage given your experience, an answer would be much appreciated!
I went with the SM7B, DBX286 and 2i2. I'm not using a cloudlifter and it all appears to work.
First of all I would like to mention that I am one of your fans and I would like to thank you for your effort…I would like you to recommend a smaller version of the DBX 286s in which that it can be easy for traveling and it has almost the same features, thank you and waiting for your reply.
Just a question, does one require an additional DBX 286 pre-amp / processor for each pair of channels that one is using? Thus if one is shooting for a four or six channel system capacity, I guess one would need three DBX 286's to be able to support upwards of five guest. So I hope my aims are not too high, as in the long run of things I should be hosing a lot of group section on the prototypical subject of ulta-high security solutions and biomathematics.
@ Podcastage Would you still need a Focusrite connected to this device to run one or two sm7bs?
You can’t connect two mics to this channel strip. This is a mono channel strip. So if you want to run two mics through a dbx286s, you would need two of them. Then you would need a 2 channel interface in order to connect the DBX286s’ to your computer since these are preamps/channel strips, and do not have any interface capabilities.
Podcastage any ideas?
This pre amp / processor sounds great, but it only has one input,
do you know anything similar to this but with 2 inputs? because I suppose you can't use both inputs at once right?
It doesn't have two preamps, it's just a processor, but the 266XS does have two channels so you can use compression & noise gate on two mics: amzn.to/2hpNhtp
Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out.
dude you're awesome I love the way you explain things
I just ordered the DBX 266XS - mostly because of the dual channel input. I hope it performs as well as your DBX286s!
I think that may be the better option. I rarely use the De-Esser or enhancer, so it would have done everything I needed but with 2 channels. Let me know how it goes.
just wondering if you are still using this. I have a small community radio station and this was gifted to the station...266SX. Seriously thinking of putting this in my setup.
Im listening to your video through monitor speakers. it sounds like you have a lisp through alot of the video. its almost to much compression or something .
I think I have too much ocompression, de-esser, and enchancer on.
Podcastage in a way, this sounds like you're at the salon...
Advanced Microphone Reviews if you’re using compression to make it louder you’re using it wrong
its the D-Esser
So apparently no cloud lifter needed with the 286s and sm7b?
Funny how I received the exact same package today (except the sm7b i already have the akg p120 in use)
Scarlet solo doesn't have a dedicated line input. If your pair it with a dbx286s you won't truly pass the internal pre-amps of the interface. As far as I know, 4i4 has dedicated line inputs at the back of it.
Could this be used with a goxlr?
it 100% could but why would you? the goxlr has this type of processing build-in
True. And it’s quite good stuff in there as well.
@@dunste123 not really if you use the sm7b you have to put the gain at 55-60 for it to sound good. I have the goxlr with sm7b and no cloudlifter and im thinking of getting this. I have videos in my channel with demos of sound with goxlr and sm7b with no cloudlifter.
@@coffeebeardtv a goxlr has plenty of gain for an sm7b, don't waste your money and just up the gain lmao
@@dunste123 i did just that and it magnifies the sounds in my room. It has noise gate but everytime i speak there is interference. If you dont get the cloudlifter you will hsve yo sound treat your room really well. Again check my channel and see how the quality is. Not very good.
One more question please:
I have purchased this unit and I do not use a rack to mount it into. I am trying to arrange it on my desk but I like to know about stacking electronics and proximity effect to other electronics and signal/ noise interference. I do not know who well-shielded this unit or other equipment are.
Here is my question, If I stack a Motu m2 on thop of this, will it cause issues with noise, hiss, hummm, etc? what if it is close to a Bose soundbar (or one sitting on top of the dbx?
any thoughts? I appreciate any input you may have. Thank you again for all you do.
It's been a while since you posted this comment, but no. They're made to mount into racks with a bunch of other gear. I have a couple pieces of gear stacked on top of my desk. The best advice I can give is just to keep your audio cables and your power cables away from eachother if you're worried about noise.
Hello my friend. I have a question for you.
I have Audio Technica at2035 with Line 6 UX2, and I am thinking about buying this product that you are reviewing in this video.
Will I be able to use the DBX with the UX2 properly, or I will have to remove the UX2?
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of course
Hello! Do you have the electronic diagram for this dbx286s equipment? Thank you.
How does it turn off? I tried clapping my hands since there is no ON/OFF button but nothing happened...
Nice! I'd love to have one of these. Also, were you the one that loaned this out to Booth Junkie?
I did not lend it to booth junkie. I've never spoken to the guy. It was just a happy accident that mine came out around the same time as his review. It's been on my schedule for like 2 months now.
This may have already been asked, but I'm gonna ask anyway..... I found a bundle with this and an sm7b, all together. My question is: Will I necessarily NEED to get a cloudlifter or can the dbx power a gain hungry mic like the sm7b on its own (and run it quietly)?Looking forward to your answer, as I can't wait to pull the trigger on the bundle, especially if I can save some $ by not meeding the cloudlifter 😉
I have a Behringer Xenyx X2222 Mixer with Channel Inserts for FXs. My current set-up I have the Shure SM7b microphone plugged into a Cloudlifter, then going in to my mixer. I'm thinking about purchasing the DBX286 to use with SM7b instead of the Cloudlifter. I would be using the DBX286 as a preamp mainly. If I plug the XLR cable from the microphone directly into Channel 1 on the mixer, then send the signal out the Channel Insert on the mixer to the DBX 286 and then back to the mixer, would this work? I've never used the Channel Inserts on my mixer before, but from what I understand the audio gets replaced coming back in to the mixer.
i know what I'm about to ask doesn't relate to this video..but..i have a very low budget right now..so I'm thinking of buying the behringer xm8500 for recording songs..so is it worth it..?
ps: i don't want to buy a condenser microphone right now as my room isn't completely noise proof...
What would be the benefit of this over just using say like a Yamaha mixer by itself ? Is there a lot of line noise from mixers by themselves ?
I have not used the yamaha mixers yet, so I have no idea.
Hello earthling, did you connect the DBX output to the XLR or the TRS input of the scarlett?
As far as I am concerned, it is better to connect it to the TRS, in order to skip the mic preamp of the scarlett.
Did you connect it with a trs trs cable or used a trs to xlr cable to the scarlett solo? Cause the solo has a line in for instrumental and a xlr for a mic..
i love how he casually puts "NOT CLICKBAIT" lmao
Chryys that's because it really isn't! Often times those clickbait videos are just there to tease the viewers or for the youtuber to put across a point with so much fillers(otherwise, the video would only last 30 seconds).
Is this compatible with only one microphone?
I have 2 SM7Bs and would like to use both.
So how would I go about that with this?
I wish I could hire you to just help me create a killer studio with a set budget
Thanks for doing this, Bandrew!!! Great job -- just enough detail. I am impressed with how quiet the pre-amp is, all the way up to 60dB. It looks like you're using only about 45db, for the SM7B? and with no Cloudlifter (for this test)? Sounds great. I thought you'd need it at 60 for that mic. Cool! In Windows 8.1, I do add a bit of extra boost from the Solo, but set minus-30dB from the DBX output gain -- I'll have to try what you're doing. With a condenser mic I set the DBX just over 45dB, but a few clicks short of 60 for dynamic mics. Anyway, the noise gate is fantastic -- totally kills the usual ambient sounds of the room and also, I find, any mic "self-noise". I don't think you said how you're connecting the DBX to the Solo, but I'm guessing 1/4 inch plugs at both ends -- which is good, but I find if I use a 1/4-inch to XLR cable, and plug into the Solo's mic (XLR) input, it more easily allows me the stereo-tracks look in Audacity that I'm used to. Thanks for letting me compare notes. I hope lots of your listeners will give this gear a try, and they will thank you for it. Have a great July 4th!!!
Dan Magoo Yes I'm using ~45dB of gain. The compressor and everything make up for the quiet signal. And I'm using 1/4" to XLR to connect it to the solo.
Andrew Sheppard, the ones I've used are TRS (both the 1/4" to XLR that I prefer, and the 1/4" to 1/4" that I tried), and that works fine -- not sure if TS would be OK as well. I also have a short XLR patch cable (male to female) for the DBX's mic input, so I can swap out mics without having to reach blindly behind the box, and I've been very happy with the cabling set-up, and with this product.
Any reason to use this + the Scarlet instead of a mixer with a USB output?
Which compressor is better and easier to use between the 266s or the 286s which 1 should i get which is more updated. ?
Hi! I have some 25 years old mixer and it have a lot of shhshshs noise from master output.This unit can remove shhhh noise from my mixer main out ?
I cant help but to notice this is currently about the same price as the cloudlifter, is it safe to assume I could use this as a compressor + a db gain instead of a cloudlifter?
As far as I can see, i COULD connect a DBX 286s to a MOTU M4 but NOT to an SSL2+?
because i heard the line inputs on the M4 bypass the motu preamps... can someone confirm?!
SO, IF TRUE, HOW COULD I USE A DBX 286S WITH AN SSL2+??!!
Hello. Thank you for posting. I have recently picked one of these units and like to know what kind of interface you recommend to send the signal to? I have watched many setup videos and only Booth Junkie mentions very briefly to connect to Audient iD4. I am looking for a unit that does not require any drivers of additional applications to use. I will connect this to a work computer where I cannot upload drivers or additional software.
what are your recommendations? Please advise. thank you in advance.
You do awesome reviews. You've made my decision easier. Thanks man. 😃
I am tired of audio interfaces having driver issues and coming to be DOA with lacklustre support to no support at all. I have decided to use this device connected to my ALC1220 motherboard audio and it should work.
Hi Bandrew. Bought mine today in Brisbane Australia. It has not been available for over a year so have been hanging out for it. I know exchange rates come to play but it makes me cry when I see how much cheaper gear is in the USA. I paid $339 Australian dollars. I'm sure it will be worth every penny. Anyway, luv ya posts. 1 question. What is all the gear in your rack?
Are there other products like this of a higher level, or just different? I am just curious to what's out there.
Hello! With RTX Voice now available, would you still suggest buying this?
Would I still need to purchase a cloud lifter if I use this pre amp with the SM7B mic?
No.
is there any way to bypass the preamp on the dbx286s and use your interface's preamp? and just use the process effects on the dbx286s.
Can you make a video how to set this up with the focusrite 2i2?
other channels done know how to review, can you please review the razer seiren condenser Mic?
I did the razer seiren pro which is essentially the same thing with just a few additional features.
Are there any really good devices or post processing applications that are effective at removing echo / audio reflections?
I know the obvious answer is to go into a different recording environment, or acoustically treat the one you're in, or to use a different microphone. That's just it though. My situation is that I'm in a bedroom with a lot of flat, hard surfaces. I have an Audio Technica ATR 2100 cardiod dynamic that I just replaced with an AKG D7 super cardiod dynamic. Those mics work just fine, though I'm looking to boost the signal for my AKG D7 more cleanly. I currently own a Mackie 402 VLZ4, Zoom H4n Pro, and Tascam DR100 MKii as well. (no i dont use both recorders simultaneously)
That all said for the purposes of appearing on video using my Canon Rebel EOS T6i HDSLR camera I bought a countryman b6 omnidirectional condenser lapel mic a while back before I moved. Applying acoustic treatments to the walls in my environment isn't really the option I want to go with mainly due to the cost and time involved with having to one day remove those treatments (I rent).
Sooooooooooo... I'm looking for a way to either A) use my countryman b6 while getting rid of most/all reflections somehow, without using treatments on the walls, OR B) just buy the Shure WH20XLR Dynamic Headset Microphone, put the countryman b6 away .. maybe even sell it, i dunno.. lol.. Any thoughts on this?
You could try adding a noise gate in post...That can help with a lot of the reverb when you're not talking.
Awesome. I'll look into that. I've got Audition CS6, and..well some other stuff. And of course will try audacity, just cuz.. it's audacity.
Also the Aphex Channel Master Preamplifier and Input Processor looks amazing. /sigh. Just another $2,000.00 of audio gear and I'll be about where I wanna be I think. =)
What would be the alternatives up to 500 $/€? Are there any?
I'm not aware of any, but I haven't done much research in outboard mic processing.
Just to ask, this is going to be much better than using software correct? 🙄 Ty
I fell in love with the Dbx 286s thanks to this neat review, but for some reason mine is very noisy.
On top of that, if I set the De-esser at 4KHz, it starts to produce a crazy larsen-like whistle sound. Any idea why that could happen?
I'm confused as in what to buy to use with the Shure SM7B - Do I use DBX280S, Cloud soundlifter, Fethead?
DBX 60db gain
CL-1 25db gain
I would buy the DBX because for that extra gain and for the rest of extras.
please could you do more preamp comparisons, you re the best! what are you doing whit all these devises after review
okay so I'm confused how to connect the dbx 286s Microphone Preamp & Channel Strip Processor to the audio interface
Great review! Thinking of getting one for the podcasts, webinars, etc. that I regularly do. Any other similar units to consider? What are some good USB audio interface options?
do a mic drop test
Crunkmaster Flex I'd happily do that with a cad u1. Ha.
Podcastage
Which fares the best with a drop test? The NW-700, BM-700, NW-7000...(etc)
obvious_humor
There is a versus series on the channel.
Get Linus on that one
LTT fans will get this one...
This is probably a stupid question, so apologies. Is there something like this that’s not rack mounted? Essentially would love to have something like this to plug my Rode NTG4 into before my 2i2 but I don’t have a whole lot of room (I keep the 2i2 in the cabinet next to my games console) and I’m not really sure what to google.
Hello, thanks for the wonderful review 👍🏼Is there a big difference if you compare preamp self-noise between the Scarlett vs the DBX? I already own Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen and planning to get the DBX so I use its preamp (no processing) instead of Scarlett's built-in preamp. Am I making a right decision?
Any answer please 😩
Hello Podcastage 🙄
DBX 286s VS JOEMEEK THREEQ
Please helpme, which you chooose? why?
I like the improved control over the compressor, and equalization on the THREEQ, however, you're missing out on the noise gate & deesser. That's up to you if you think you'll need these features.
holy internet
That's crazy lol
I just ordered one of these a few days ago from sweetwater.
Thanks for the review bandrew. :-)
GREAT CHOICE!
Hey bandrew. I mentioned the mackie onyx artist and producer interfaces in another video, but I got the artist model today (smaller $99 one). The build quality is phenomenal. You're gonna like this one a lot if you get a chance to review it.
I'm trying to figure out if I need DBX 286, cloudlifter, or both with the Shure SM7b for recording singing vocals. I keep getting background noise and I'm thinking it's from the preamp/audiointerface gain. Will the DBX286 be enough or do I need cloudlifter too? Vice versa. I have a GoldenAge Preamp 73 into Focusrite 6i6.
Dbx for the gain and processes
Do they make a version of this that has two inputs so it can match both inputs of an interface with 2 inputs like the Scarlett 2i2?
hi Bandrew, quick question, would you hook up a cloudlifter to this chain?
Hi there Bandrew! I know there've been raving reviews on this unit for VO and streaming applications.
Would you recommend this preamp to home musicians as well (vs. some of the more colored preamps that may not have similar features such as the dbx like Gate, de-esser, compressor)?
Nice tutorial, do you have a video on how to set up a microphone compressor ? Ratio, threshold, attack, release...etc. Thank you
Is there an alternative to the dbx 286s that isn't so large and doesn't need to be racked??
Not that I'm aware of at this time. The Helicon GoXLR is coming out mid december and should offer some similar functionality with a USB audio interface as well. We'll see how good it actually is though.
Do you think it s better than a little tube preamp... ? Thank for your magic channel !G.
We need reviews for this type of equipment too!
Due to other products with equivalent functions (aka "Channel Strip") are too expensive for podcasters, so I think that he wouldn't do that.
Hey Bandrew, quick question. When connecting the dbx 286s to your audio interface, do you use a trs to xlr cable? or do you use trs to trs? Also, could I use the gain from both my scarlett interface AND the gain from the dbx 286s to boost my mic? or should i leave interface gain off and only use the gain from the dbx? any advice would be greatly appreciated. By the way, my set up currently is Shure SM7B into DBX 286S into Scarlett 2i2 interface with a balanced trs to trs cable.
Should you use a direct box to hook the dbx to your audio interface?
I wish the DBX came with USB...so where is your gain level on the Focusrite when using with the DBX?
Oh so you have the Focusrite gain all the way down?
That's the goal. Use the DBX pre and avoid any kind of impact from the Focusrite. Don't recall what I was using here if it was 1/4 Line in or XLR. If I was using XLR, that's not the ideal way to connect it. It should be connected with a 1/4" input set to line level.
@@Podcastage vey nice and thanks for the quick reply.
Do you use cloudlifter and dbx combo? Its better than Just dbx?