Trail Bike Showdown: Spur vs Ripley vs Tallboy

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  • @flyingnorseman
    @flyingnorseman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Dang, a week in the desert on those 3 rigs? What dedication and sacrifice. You really took one for the team.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Someone has to do it. I volunteer as tribute.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bikersedge
      May the odds be ever in your favor.

    • @FreeLander5280
      @FreeLander5280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      May the force be with you indeed

  • @gpa1978
    @gpa1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I had the three as next bike options...but ripley really had what I wanted...I'm very happy with it. It's my xc race bike, trail bike and park bike..I just do ride it with care..I haven't used the enduro. Bike since I have the ripley too
    Not that they are even close but when you want to ride a lot of time nothing beats a good trail bike

    • @GreenTimYoung
      @GreenTimYoung ปีที่แล้ว

      Just got an sb120 for the same reasons as you.

  • @911_dan2
    @911_dan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    love this format, your insight is great

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that!

  • @brianhanish6307
    @brianhanish6307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought the spur for the exact same reason as you mentioned. Up and down can do it all really well. I sat on the tallboy and liked it a lot but seemed to overbuilt for my terrain. The ripley would have been a good choice but the spur I took a chance on and it looks sick in the Seafood green. Little more progressive. That being said, I don't have it in my hands yet. Ordered in September so I figure Feb/March. All good cause I can drool over it and smash trails in the spring. Thanks for the first class content. This is by far my favourite channel for MTB. amazing work.

    • @corvettec5dave
      @corvettec5dave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Phillip Connolly , so far how do you like the bike?

  • @milesdonaldson9829
    @milesdonaldson9829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Incredible video. I really love how you review the bikes based on how they feel and not on the technical side of it. Keep it up

  • @JJMilk
    @JJMilk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love this category of bike. Your videos make life simpler in terms of deciding on one of these bikes. 👍🏼
    Super helpful!!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them!

  • @erinb4919
    @erinb4919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2020 Tallboy... Super fun bike, awesome going downhill, fun to jump and good climber.

  • @blissandtheburning
    @blissandtheburning 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best bike channel on youtube.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Thanks for the kind words.

  • @travelthenarrowtrail8660
    @travelthenarrowtrail8660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You did a fantastic job on this one, as always. I remember when you all started your channel, I knew it was going to take off quickly. You always explore all the detail very well, which informs those that can't demo these. I agree with so much of what you said. Appreciate your content and how I can tell you are creating ways to make it even better. Thank you.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support and encouragement!

  • @hro52518
    @hro52518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cant wait for my Tallboy to come in! Excellent review as always

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'll love it. I wish I had one on the way.

    • @em1355
      @em1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge I went Tallboy based on your review and you are right, it is fast and stable going downhill.

  • @michaelschad6477
    @michaelschad6477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ride a HT & still love this channel. Your edits & quality are top notch! Keep it up!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated!

  • @TheArsenalGoonship
    @TheArsenalGoonship 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your channel. Some of the best reviews on the interwebs. Great content!

  • @juliangarcia-wj7gf
    @juliangarcia-wj7gf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I seen other reviews comparing short travel mountain bikes... I have to admit that yours was one of the best...thanks..🤘🤘🤘

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So stoked to hear that! Really glad you liked it.

  • @jimm244
    @jimm244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a fan of the lower link VPP. I agree it’s not as efficient on the climbs, but the decrease in efficiency is countered by uphill traction. It might not be quite as fast on the way up, but personally I don’t find it any less enjoyable. On the way down, man does it hold a line! Depending on the bike, it can be planted and poppy at the same time.
    Your downhill on the TB looked faster, smoother, and more enjoyable. The POV footage really backed up your conclusions on all three bikes. 👍

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It seems like Santa Cruz might be trying to find a happy medium between the feel of their older bikes and the first gen lower link VPP. The newest stuff feels a bit more lively and climbs a bit better. I'm pretty stoked to see it.

  • @4drcanyonracer
    @4drcanyonracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great comparison. You can literally see how much smoother the TB is by your increased speed and smoother video while on it. I'm really looking forward to a Hightower 2 vs Ripmo V2 comparison. I demo'd the HT2 and Ripmo 1 and ended up buying a Ripmo AF since the frame was only 0.85 lbs heavier than the carbon HT2. The AF if built with lighter parts (mine is GX), can weigh very close to the HT2 (even in carbon) and climb about on par but descend better than the Ripmo V1. If the Ripmo V2 was around then, I would have went that way. A Ripmo V2 isn't a direct competitor to the TB but it probably climbs about the same, if built up fairly light and descends better, especially with a coil shock. Now, throw a TB with a Cascade Link and a Pike at 130 and what would you get? Something that still climbs like a Ripmo and descends like a mini HT2? The Santa Cruz bikes just ride so solid, kinda has me wondering if that's a perfect compromise setup for some people.

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm an Ibis fanboy!
    I rode a V1 Ripley for about 5 years and put it on a pedestal! Not even newer bikes
    were as efficient. I would demo from time to time.
    This year, I got a V1 Ripmo and am very happy with it. At speed, it feels like a Ripley and it's very efficient up and down. The bonus is the stability. Very balanced bike.

  • @TwowheeledadventureVT
    @TwowheeledadventureVT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for doing this review! These are the exact bikes on my radar 😁

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read your mind and that's why I made it!

  • @Rincon009
    @Rincon009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best regular review I've seen for these bikes!! Kudos!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stoked you like it! Thanks for the kind words.

  • @REB4444
    @REB4444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two years since this video & my riding more short-travel bikes, I've finally figured out what I like in a short-travel/downcountry bike. If riding with my bigger group on weekly rides, I do value climbing since I'm older & want to suffer less keeping up, something like the Ripley works. But if riding by myself or with buddies cruising & bombing down at our own pace, the more capable, comfortable, fun bike would be the Tallboy because of that Santa Cruz plushness. The Spur's lighter but feels too long & slack than it needs to be for a short-travel bike, so it's not as agile. So I did the next best thing and bought a Pivot Trail 429 that climbs like the Ripley, goes downhill like the Spur but is more agile in flowy, tighter trails. No, it does not have quite the plushness of the Tallboy but more than the Spur.

    • @flow2tech
      @flow2tech ปีที่แล้ว

      @REB4 I"m honeslty looking at the 2023 Rocky Mountain element for my do it all short travel rig. Thinking of selling my sb130 to do it.. Older i get the more i like to climb but still be able to shred the downs. As good as the sb130 is at climbing it is heavy and noticeable on longer rides.. Becomes cumbersome lugging that thing around..

    • @TomCollins-c4h
      @TomCollins-c4h ปีที่แล้ว

      saw a 429 at the bike shop and would have to say that was the most awesome looking bike I've ever.

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Did anybody else notice that the Tallboy was extremely quiet compared to the other bikes?
    There was so much less rattling on the Santa Cruz!
    It’s a shame that the brakes where a little bit squealy. But maybe with other pads or a bit of sanding they get totally quiet too.

    • @silentmonk1189
      @silentmonk1189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After watching and listening to the three, I would throw the Spur in the trash and get one of the other two. The noise from that machine screams low build quality.

  • @Hairy_eyeball
    @Hairy_eyeball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love my Ripley. It climbs like a beast and can handle any descent I throw at it

  • @Micarmn
    @Micarmn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my all time favorite bike review and head to head to head matchup hands down. Really good content here. Great job

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks for the kind words. Really appreciate it!

    • @Micarmn
      @Micarmn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge are the grades the same after 5 months?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I had ridden all of these bikes quite a bit before filming this video. I'm pretty familiar with all of them. Grades hold true.

  • @tyarnold4088
    @tyarnold4088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the Ripley and love it. But the Transition Spur and Santa Cruz Tallboy are both just as good.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s so hard to choose between all three.

  • @TyroilSmoochieWallace
    @TyroilSmoochieWallace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SICK video. Very well done. Thanks man. (my Ripley arrives this week after waiting over 8 months...😁)

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words! Kudos for being patient. It will be worth the wait.

  • @timcostello4408
    @timcostello4408 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is great to watch a bike review where there is no sitting on the fence for fear of upsetting manufacturers. That Santa Cruz descends as quietly as a rolls Royce ghost . If I am ever in the US again I will be sure to pop in the shop and say hi

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you liked it. The whole point of these videos is to help people find the right bike. Being honest about them seems like the best way to do that. Each of these bikes is incredible in its own way.

  • @bike_somm
    @bike_somm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just here to applaud the video making & attention to detail! Always solid input & story telling 👏🏼😎

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated! Love your videos too.

    • @bike_somm
      @bike_somm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge That’s Awesome to hear, thanks a bunch !! 🙌🏻🚲😄

  • @themtchannel2110
    @themtchannel2110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoy your reviews! It is outstanding landscape :)

  • @marvinlee4887
    @marvinlee4887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very glad to come across this comparison/review and thank for doing it. Spur and Ripley are on my short list for a 2021 addition and this video really helps with making my decision.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So stoked you found it! Let us know if we can help you decide.

  • @MileHighEric303
    @MileHighEric303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I currently have a Pivot Switchblade and looking to add a shorter travel 29er to the stable. I've already had the Ibis Ripley and it climbed like a beast, but wasn't confidence inspiring on the descent. The two bikes on my radar are the new Tallboy and Rocky Mountain Element. Briefly, what are your thoughts on the two bikes head to head?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't ridden an Element yet. Can't say.

    • @pedalpoonces
      @pedalpoonces 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own a 2020 Tallboy CC (with custom rootbeer 36 fox float factory 140mm fork upgrade). I demo'd the RM Element recently in Las Vegas. The Tallboy cleaned the clock of the Element on the dh. Uphill and easy rolling stuff, they were pretty close but the Element was a little more efficient. But, that could be mostly based on the 3 pound lighter element.

  • @mmann1897
    @mmann1897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review, thanks! Would love to where the Epic Evo stacks among that group. No doubt the most exciting category this year.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So many cool new bikes in the category this year. We don't carry Specialized so I wont be able to get my hands on one for a review.

    • @neehooya
      @neehooya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Ah bummer, I was going to ask the same Q, I wanted to see how the TB stacks against the Evo. Anyway, thank you for your insightful review.

  • @Memeteam903
    @Memeteam903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m starting to think my Izzo is a long travel spur. No real regrets on my Izzo. I really wanted that ripley but bike apocalypse forced my hand. Another great review!

    • @Roaming50
      @Roaming50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear as I have an Izzo LE on order. I’m replacing a 2012 Tallboy LTc. I was comparing against these bikes and others but ultimately Izzo won out. Also availability. Most other bikes had excessively long lead times...

    • @Memeteam903
      @Memeteam903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Roaming50 I called every Ibis dealer in NC. Not one XL Ripley or Mojo in the entire state and the wait time was over 8 months.... The Izzo is a very good bike with good value. Sadly there is very few reviews of it.

    • @Roaming50
      @Roaming50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Memeteam903 I’ll admit it was kind of scary spending $6k on a bike without riding it. But the Spur was $500 non refundable deposit for a bike with availability of May and also no demo ride. I’ll review the Izzo when I get it. Hopefully in February.

    • @Memeteam903
      @Memeteam903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Roaming50 I mean I could review mine but I haven’t ridden the other bikes so I have nothing to compare it too...

    • @Memeteam903
      @Memeteam903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will say there is zero reason for a lockout on the Izzo!

  • @nunyabiznes32
    @nunyabiznes32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, as usual. Might want to mention the weight difference. Transition Spur: approx. 26 lbs., Ibis Ripley: approx. 29 lbs., and Santa Cruz Tallboy: approx. 31 lbs.

    • @titiand
      @titiand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Tallboy rides nice at 28.5 with pedals. It is spec’d really well though.

  • @jymtb
    @jymtb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is what the people wanted! Thanks! Any chance you had time on the Revel Ranger? How would it have compared to these three?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I haven't been able to ride on of those yet. We don't have them in our demo fleet.

  • @ChopperChad
    @ChopperChad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That new slacker head angle on the Ripley AF may put it at the top on descents as well. Hopefully the carbon version hits soon. I’m in shopping mode for my next bike.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It gets it close. I still think I’d take a Tallboy for the really rough descents. Haven’t ridden them back to back though.

  • @patrickwilliamson673
    @patrickwilliamson673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review , I very much enjoy the format of your reviews.

  • @koreanmtnbiker2931
    @koreanmtnbiker2931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just proves there is no a magic bike in our magical diverse environment we live here on earth. Each has strength and compromise.

  • @geopietro
    @geopietro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice review: informative, nuanced, helpful. Thank you!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks. I appreciate it.

  • @A.D.D.O.C.D.T
    @A.D.D.O.C.D.T 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ibis 👑

  • @MrFahrenheit99
    @MrFahrenheit99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video quality and color grading. Seriously, A+. The bikes are cool too, I guess.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That slightly leaned forward seating position of the Ripley sounds exactly the same as the Ripmo, and it's great for climbing, especially tech climbs. For being a 35lb bruiser I am actually very impressed with how well my Ripmo climbs.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It fits very similar to the Ripmo.

    • @A.D.D.O.C.D.T
      @A.D.D.O.C.D.T 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got one ,super impressed !

  • @tonybasoni8443
    @tonybasoni8443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job. Thanks for putting this together, it is exactly the kind of thing that helps to get perspective and make an informed decision when we cant all test ride all the Bikes we are interested in ourselves.
    One thing maybe to consider adding in would be the availability of each one. Like if someone was torn between two, one might be able to be bought more readily than the other helping to make their decision easier. Or to consider if waiting 3 or 4 extra months for the one they prefer is worth the wait. Thanks again.
    Oh, what trail was that? Where exactly in St. George?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the feedback and kind words! It's tough putting availability up in these videos as it changes all the time. These videos are meant to live in the internet for a long time. We do a pretty good job of announcing availability on our social channels though. Follow along there if you want to stay up to date.
      I filmed all these bikes on Paradise Rim in St. George.

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge ,......I understand. Unfortunately, I only do youtube. Thanks again, and keep them coming! Will be looking forward to the next one. Oh,.....Hear anything about that new Revel?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ranger? I haven't had a chance to ride one yet.

    • @tonybasoni8443
      @tonybasoni8443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge ,.....No, there is supposed to be a new longer travel 29er coming soon. I talked to some guys when I was in St. George about a month ago that said they have seen it being tested. Of course they could have been mistaken, but I don't think so as I have heard about it from others as well.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We haven't heard anything about it from the source. Although, I've heard the same thing running through the rumor mill for the last year or so.

  • @REBooner30
    @REBooner30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I place a premium on climbing and ordered the Ripley in XT build which includes upgraded factory Fox susp. It should arrive in the next couple weeks. Looks like you had the XT build on the Tallboy which includes a nice upgrade to the Pike. Thanks for the nice comparison of the three.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're going to love the Ripley if you like climbing.
      I had the X01 Tallboy. It's a very nice build. Couldn't ask for better.

  • @mprox3431
    @mprox3431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would the mojo 4 handle this trail as well as the 29ers? thanks!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy. The Mojo 4 is every bit as capable if not more than these bikes.

  • @cliffsangelsphotography
    @cliffsangelsphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got the Ripmo, but I've been craving a lightweight short travel trail ripper. Definitely might build a Ripley soon

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should!

    • @cliffsangelsphotography
      @cliffsangelsphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge can you review the Trek Supercaliber? I always liked your reviews a lot more than Pinkbike

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cliffsangelsphotography Thanks for the kind words. We don't carry trek at the shop so I won't be able to get my hands on one to do a video, unfortunately.

    • @BlackPenquinn
      @BlackPenquinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a beautiful V1 Ripmo (custom build) and I just got a new Exie and it is the perfect compliment to the Ripmo. The Ripley (depending on how you build the two bikes up) might not be “different” enough. The Exie will be and that bike is a blast on flowing trails, and especially fun on tight trails with lots of tight corners. Spools up to speed quickly.
      Great bikes

  • @danbraden4401
    @danbraden4401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the new Rocky Mtn Element just came out have you ridden that? Also the Pivot 429 is out and I demoed that in Fruita and it was pretty awesome.....

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t had a chance to ride the element yet. As soon as we get one I’ll be making a video.
      We don’t carry pivot so we all know it’s an inferior bike 😉

  • @greenskeeper1840
    @greenskeeper1840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love to nail those technical climbs and am by no means a speedster on the descents. So I guess it's the Ripley for me.

  • @smeekteek
    @smeekteek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You mentioned that Spur was less responsive on direction changes than the Ripley. I imagine then that the Spur is not a good choice for a first FS bike for a rider who rides mostly "old" geo HTs with shorter WBs and steeper headtubes?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As long as you’re open to change it’s not a bad bike. Just know it will be very different than an old bike. That said, any modern bike will be.

  • @smithgov
    @smithgov ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video production and super useful review. Really an A for your effort. I have narrowed it down to the Spur or Ripley. Just subscribed! Thanks a million. (By the way, where is this amazing trail. I am heading to AZ in April and hoping it is there) :-)

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the feedback!

    • @mountainbikingfortherestofus
      @mountainbikingfortherestofus ปีที่แล้ว

      Your quite welcome. Where is this ride? Cheers, Robert

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  ปีที่แล้ว

      Paradise Rim in St. George.

  • @trailblazeratv6306
    @trailblazeratv6306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the Trance 29 ? How does it compare ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry my first response was about the Trance X. I deleted it. I 'm on the same page with you now. The Trance 29 is pretty similar to all of these actually. It's been a very long time since I've ridden it though and can't really give a fair comparison. I'd say it's probably like the Spur in the middle somewhere.

  • @pierrecarriere6845
    @pierrecarriere6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for all the good work you put into this channel !
    Would you rather get an alloy or carbon Tallboy ? I'm pondering the value of a carbon frame if you're not much into the weight stuff...
    Greetings from France

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven’t ridden an alloy Tallboy. I’ve come to find that weight is blown out of proportion in the mtb world. The alloy one probably rides great!

    • @pierrecarriere6845
      @pierrecarriere6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Thanks ! I share the same point of view. I guess I would be better served by spending the extra money on a good set of wheels if I want the bike to feel snappier ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I go back and forth on that. If you want a snappy feeling bike, a carbon frame will do the trick. To be honest I've never ridden an alloy frame with carbon wheels. It's something I should try.

    • @pierrecarriere6845
      @pierrecarriere6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge In any case, I guess that sturdier wheels than stock wheels found on most bikes would take any alloy bike in to that direction

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. It could only help. I wonder what makes a bigger difference though. Carbon frame or carbon wheels. Sounds like a new video is in the works.

  • @micahknope2093
    @micahknope2093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most important question....
    where can I get that hooded jacket? love it!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a brand called Freedom Industries. But, nothing is more important than cool bikes. Duh.

  • @Dy1pickel
    @Dy1pickel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my Tallboy 4. Have you had the chance to try it with a 140 fork or more expensive rear shock ? Would you recommend any certain upgrades? I had my eye on potentially on piggyback shock.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Personally I wouldn’t go 140mm. It’s slack enough as is. I don’t think a piggyback is necessary unless you’re hitting bike park laps on the bike. And then it wouldn’t be the best bike for that anyway. Personally don’t think any upgrades are necessary

    • @travelthenarrowtrail8660
      @travelthenarrowtrail8660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with Conner's assessment on this one. The Tallboy is pretty dialed at the geo it's at and the suspension is really dialed. Not sure if cascade components is making a rear link for it. But a 140 shock would take it to a pretty slack area that will cause the front to wonder. Santa Cruz has it dialed out of the box.

    • @jonanderson1777
      @jonanderson1777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have my tallboy set up with a fox 36 at 140mm and I just got the cascade components rear link to bump travel to 128mm with more progression.
      Overall thoughts are it's not to slack if you run a touch more sag on the fork. If your a heavy rider like myself at 230lbs of want to jump the tallboy in chunk the 36 will track better with the 36.
      I demod the tallboy with a fox 34 and I felt the rear outperformed the front. 36 up front with cascades makes it into a better norco optic in my opinion.

  • @scottkouns8578
    @scottkouns8578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you add the Pivot Trail 429 to your next list of short travel comparisons. DW link

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don’t carry Pivot at the shop. It’s not one I’ll be able to get my hands on for a video.

  • @tom56340
    @tom56340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review as always.
    Any chance of getting a comperison to the rocky mountaine element?
    The short travel catagory is on fire!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m still trying to get my hands on one of those. I’ve only ridden it briefly.

    • @pedalpoonces
      @pedalpoonces 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge I just demo'd the RM Element C70 here in Las Vegas on a RM demo tour. And I own a Tallboy CC. I did a comparison vid on my channel. But would love to get your thoughts on it vs these 3 other DC bikes!

  • @bassnlv8447
    @bassnlv8447 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys have the best reviews, great job! What trail is this?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks. Glad you like them. This is Paradise Rim in St George, Utah.

    • @bassnlv8447
      @bassnlv8447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge sweet, right by snake hollow. Sounds like a day trip with the buddies. Thanks

  • @CarlosAntunesMTB
    @CarlosAntunesMTB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video as usual. I wonder if you guys could help a a bit. I'm buying my first EMTB this year BUT I'm very undecided between Levo SL v.s. Orbea Rise. I have already ridden a Levo SL and I felt the bike was good but lacks in motor power by having only 35 NM's, I know the Rise is more powerful than the Levo but does it feel like having almost double power compared to the LevoSL?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t ridden the Levo SL. I’ve ridden plenty of full power 80nm e bikes though. I don’t miss the extra 20nm when I’m riding the rise. It has enough power for any climb I’ve found. I feel the benefits outweigh the reduction in power.

  • @kentvantrall7185
    @kentvantrall7185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool and nice review thanks very much .
    The ripely is a very nice bike , I discover a nice bike.
    Can you make a video about the Hightower 2021 please?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are currently working on an all-mountain showdown similar to this. The Hightower will be included.

  • @mtbeliever5833
    @mtbeliever5833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:28. That’s your 130LR hiding behind your truck. You brought it with you because you knew it would be more fun than all three.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s a top secret bike actually. Stay tuned.

  • @paulway451
    @paulway451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have ridden the TB and Ripley both in large. Found the TB a little short for me (6ft with long arms). Found the Ripley conquers everything and just wants to go go go. Be keen on your thoughts if you would Chang the comments on Ripley descending but running a 140 mm fork. I’m waiting on a Ripley frame and looking at a 140mm fork. We all like to race downhill right?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t tried it with a 140mm fork. It would make the bike slacker and longer which would help a bit, but I think it comes down to rear suspension design more than anything here.

  • @patrickwright8352
    @patrickwright8352 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little late go the game,leaning towards the ripley but love fast descent.what your feelings on if you increased the fork to 140 mm ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still don’t think it would match the TB and Spur in descending ability. If that’s what you’re after though then go for it.

  • @insidemattsmind5999
    @insidemattsmind5999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! I love the no nonsense language without pandering to the manufacturer’s. If the Ripley is an “A” climbing, what would you give the Ripmo V2? Thank you!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the Assegai tires I’d give it a B. Put some faster/more appropriate tires on it and it would be a B+.

    • @insidemattsmind5999
      @insidemattsmind5999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent! I’m planning on a DHR 2.6 upfront and a Rekon 2.4(dry conditions) in back. I just want a bike that climbs more efficiently then my 2019 Stumpjumper alloy. Thank you!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That will be a great combo for it. It will be an excellent climber for you.

  • @BikeAndThings
    @BikeAndThings 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm afraid to do this to yah but if you have ridden the kona hei hei at all can compare the uphill and downhill of that to the tall boy? The bikes i'm considering are the kona hei hei, santa cruz tall boy, and the santa cruz blur. Great video!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, we don't carry Kona at the shop. I haven't ridden one.

  • @johnglynn7795
    @johnglynn7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the conclusion to your video. A great overall on the 3 bikes. I ride in Phoenix, Tucson and St George. Your thoughts on a Ibis Ripley, Ripmo and the bike I am leaning toward is a Niner Rip 9 due to its CVA suspension. Your opinion is greatly appreciated. Jg

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John thanks for the kind words. I haven’t ridden the Niner. Can’t really say much about it.

  • @johnglynn7795
    @johnglynn7795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the video. Love MTB'n St George. Do you have any reviews on the Niner Rip 9? Blue skies, Jg

  • @garydecker3281
    @garydecker3281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you put a larger volume reducer in the Ripley would help with the bottoming and the tech DH feel you were talking about. My Fuel EX felt similar to the description you were giving and really came alive with the larger reducer. Also helped it to pop off jumps.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It certainly could help. It wouldn’t make it descend just like the TB but it would help with the bottom out.

  • @terrymtbnurse4760
    @terrymtbnurse4760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, great review. I'm taking a job as a travel nurse where I'll be traveling all over the US. I currently own a Surly Karate Monkey, steel hardtail. Not the bike I want to travel with. Could you recommend a bike that would handle a large variety of trails I'll be coming across? I'm 53 y/o and a very good rider. I'm not looking to do big jumps or huge drops. The steel hardtail does wear me out on the climbs and I lose speed on the straight a ways and my knees could use some relief. I love love to hear your thoughts.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could hands down recommend any of of these three. I’d also look at our all mountain showdown if you’re wanting something a little burlier than these three.

    • @terrymtbnurse4760
      @terrymtbnurse4760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge Thanks for the reply, I will. It will probably come down to availability. Makes me feel at ease with your recommendation of any one of these would fit the bill. Hope I can find one. Thanks again. BTW, your review was awesome.

  • @ikharl328
    @ikharl328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love your thoughts if we throw in a revel ranger on the head to head comparison

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not like these bikes at all really. I’m working on the ranger video at the moment.

  • @mtbg4035
    @mtbg4035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please review the sb120 and compare to these 3 if you could please!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have a new 120 on the way. It’s been too long since I’ve ridden these bikes to make any fair comparisons though.

  • @chrissmith8868
    @chrissmith8868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This trail looks like a blast. I’ve got a Ripley on order from you guys scheduled to arrive in May. What is the name of this trail? I’d like to ride it. Great video. Love the comparisons.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a really fun one. It’s called Paradise Rim. Thanks for supporting the shop!

  • @mwab65
    @mwab65 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent review. Location and weather look sick compared to to the cold, wet and windy weather here in the north of England.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The weather was very nice. Can’t complain.

  • @carlosmcintyre3639
    @carlosmcintyre3639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video with useful comparisons. Have you spent any time on the Revel Ranger to be able to compare it to these bikes?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks! I haven't been able to ride on of those yet. We don't have them in our demo fleet.

    • @carlosmcintyre3639
      @carlosmcintyre3639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge Thanks for the reply. I’d love to watch a video if you ever get to demo one.

  • @montechie
    @montechie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great way to review! What max tire size with something like a DHF or Assegai do you think the Spur or Tallboy could fit? The Ripley can take a 2.5. Tire volume can really do wonders for techy climbs and descents.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Ripley I rode had the 2.6 Schwalbe. I actually prefer a narrower 2.3” tire though. I would have to look at spacing but I don’t think 2.5 would be an issue on the TB. It’s probably getting close on the Spur though.

  • @curtcarlson7659
    @curtcarlson7659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and well done

  • @brunohd4254
    @brunohd4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put a deposit on a Spur, coming off a 2019 Rocky Instinct 140/150 travel, looking for something shorter, more nimble that can still hold its own . Your final words on the spur made sense to me it's an average of the 2 which is what I wanted. Question for you as I believe you have a Spur and I never hear this mentioned in any reviews. How does the Spur do in undulating terrain where you have to pump through, pedal short little quick climbs, and then short downs...really my main concern is how it pedals, does it feel quick when you get on it or does it absorb all your power?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're going to love the Spur. It feels really quick and responsive. It's not quite Ripley fast on the climbs but it's one of the faster trail bikes for sure.

    • @brunohd4254
      @brunohd4254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge Thanks for the confirmation 🤘🏻

  • @alkamite
    @alkamite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video, guys. This is the best assessment of the tallboy I've seen. I've had one since June and totally agree. It's more of a short travel enduro bike than aggressive cross-country bike. It makes you think you're a much better rider than you are. But, if the spur had been released a week earlier I would gotten one of those instead.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. It's so hard to decide between all of these bikes. I don't think you made a bad choice going with the Tallboy though.

  • @dav31078
    @dav31078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. The new Tallboy is really puzzling to me. Why not just get the bigger travel bike instead?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's all about how it descends. It's far more agile, nimble and playful than the Hightower.

    • @alexhawkins7133
      @alexhawkins7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly faster too based on your comparison video.

  • @bastienvlln9704
    @bastienvlln9704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a great and good work, thank for that !

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @dennyhockenberry9117
    @dennyhockenberry9117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you try the Tallboy in the high setting at all? I found when I owned a YT Jeffsy that the bike climbed like complete crap in the low setting and the flip chip in high made a big difference getting uphill. I am curious if that would close the gap between it and the Spur.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Over the last year I’ve ridden it quite a bit in both settings. Even in the high setting it still says into the suspension more and is less efficient. It’s also significantly heavier. High setting does bridge the gap a bit but not much.

    • @dennyhockenberry9117
      @dennyhockenberry9117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Interesting. Everyone focuses so heavily on geo when comparing bikes but this just goes to show that choosing the suspension platform to suite your riding style may prevail over many of the other factors.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think geo is still probably the biggest factor followed by suspension design. In the Tallboys case the difference between high and low is 0.2 degrees of head tube angle. If you ask me that doesn’t really make much of a difference.

    • @dennyhockenberry9117
      @dennyhockenberry9117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Yeah the YT was a .5 degree HTA change, so maybe I am comparing apples to bananas.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think a half degree is about as small of a change I can notice just by riding the bike.

  • @rogerb3927
    @rogerb3927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as always. Any chance you’d share the Strava links for these rides?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not a Strava guy, but this trail is Paradise Rim in St. George Utah.

    • @rogerb3927
      @rogerb3927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge thanks!

  • @bikersedge
    @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Which one would you want in your garage?

    • @iopusor
      @iopusor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tallboy, but the frames are impossible to get a hold of atm. :/

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iopusor Unfortunately, that's the situation with almost every bike right now. The industry exploded this summer.

    • @iopusor
      @iopusor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge Sadly. Im lucky I still have my -19 c stumpjumper this year coming. Was about to sell it.

    • @iopusor
      @iopusor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @JF niiiiice!

    • @dougshankle7946
      @dougshankle7946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ripley

  • @swimpitt95
    @swimpitt95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm considering all three of these bikes for my first full-suspension bike/next bike purchase. It probably won't happen until late 21 or early 22 based on availability. Which of these would be the best bike for Southeastern Pennsylvania? Rocks, roots, and most rides I'm on have a minimum of 100 elevation gain per mile.

    • @tuswm1
      @tuswm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I live near you. A higher bottom bracket for less pedal strikes especially if you ride flats. 2 guys in my group have the Ripley. Great on tech climbs. I ordered the spur.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the trails are really tight and technical I'd go Ripley.

    • @swimpitt95
      @swimpitt95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tuswm1 Thank you. That is very helpful. I rode a Tallboy in Santa Fe in 2017 and enjoyed it, but it is a different bike now and different terrain here. The Ripley has been on my mind for the climbing capabilities. And I'm sure all three bikes will descend better than my XC 2015 Trek Superfly hardtail.

    • @gwenramage8419
      @gwenramage8419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@swimpitt95 Yeah, the techy climbs in NM are awesome! The Ripley would eat 'em up. Although I chose the Spur as my sword to slay anything.

  • @yohananwalker
    @yohananwalker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recentley got the tallboy. After waiting too long for the spur. Which one is more "poppy and plaful of the too? Have to admit, i may miss my V1 following. Whats your take?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Tallboy is easier to jump and get off the ground than the Spur. It probably has to do with the suspension design and the overall length of the bike.

    • @yohananwalker
      @yohananwalker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bikersedge Thanks for the review and the reply man! Good to know. I feel like the tallboy is all ready somewhat glued to the ground... at least in low mode. High mode feels less plowy but livlier too me

  • @Teufelnator
    @Teufelnator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A bit late to the party, but I saw on one of your videos that you used to carry Evil bikes. Any thoughts on how these three compare to the following?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We haven’t carried Evil since way before my time. I haven’t ever ridden one.

    • @Teufelnator
      @Teufelnator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Fair enough! Thank you :)

  • @radigan209
    @radigan209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and comparison! Which trails were you doing the laps on in St. George? Nice mix of up and down especially 3 times!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey thanks! I did all the filming on Paradise Rim.

  • @garzzagear4719
    @garzzagear4719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and comparison! Would you put the revel rascal in this category? If so how would you rank that bike in comparison to these climbing and descending?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d put the Rascal with the Occam and Trance X. The Ranger is closer to these bikes but that’s one I haven’t ridden yet.

  • @Adzzaa
    @Adzzaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does the Orbea Occam M10 compete against these?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It compares more with the Trance X. We just did a showdown there. Go check that one out.

    • @Adzzaa
      @Adzzaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge Saw it....So are you suggesting it’s out of the Spur, Tallboy and Ripley as the best trail bike for 2021?

  • @stankiah
    @stankiah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What camera are you using? The footage quality is incredible!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks. It’s a GoPro hero 7 with the Karma gimbal.

  • @glibsonoran
    @glibsonoran 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will say that I've noticed a difference of opinion on two of these bikes - Tallboy and Ripley - that tends to break down by rider size/weight. Smaller lighter riders (under 150/155lb) on smaller frame sizes tend to absolutely love the Ripley and feel it works well in most all circumstances. They love the climbing and feel the suspension doesn't give up much to the tallboy on the downhill, some feel the tallboy is overly stiff especially with carbon wheels. Heavier riders (over 175/180lb), on larger frames, tend to prefer the tallboy. They feel that the Ripley is too harsh on chatter, bottoms on bigger bumps and the frame feels flexy on the rough stuff. In between feelings tend to be mixed. Obviously I don't have a huge sample, but it seems to fall this way for people I know that have ridden both.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You could be on to something there. In addition to the frame stiffness, the TB is slacker and has a more active and forgiving rear suspension platform. I'd suspect its a combo of all of the above that makes it descend better.

  • @sunkim8310
    @sunkim8310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your review confirmed my suspicions...I want the Ripley going up and the Tallboy going down. I still can't decide!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Split the difference and get the Spur!

  • @rlopez9044
    @rlopez9044 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the SC is the best descender, is it cause is the heaviest of the three? And give stability ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it’s mostly due to the suspension design and geo.

  • @joshinaction2340
    @joshinaction2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ridden the evil following v3?
    I am curious on how it compares with these 3 as well.
    Thank you and have a good holiday!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! You too. I haven't ridden it. We don't carry Evil at the shop so I don't think I'll have the opportunity.

    • @jonathanperillo1795
      @jonathanperillo1795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All three of these bikes were on my radar. I ended up with The Following V3 with the Push coil. I put a -1 degree headset in there with a 130mm Fox 36. It descends like a mini enduro bike and climbs really well. It has the traction of the Tallboy on the tech climbs but is a little more efficient feeling. The downside to the way I have it built up is that it’s heavy at 30lbs without pedals. Go with a Fox 34 and a lighter cassette and you’ll be under 29lbs. Lighter tires and easily another pound. I am super impressed with this bike.

  • @oliviaorro
    @oliviaorro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were you riding in St. George? If so what trail is that?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paradise Rim!

    • @oliviaorro
      @oliviaorro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great thanks!

  • @Crayonz014
    @Crayonz014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had my Ripley for a few months now and absolutely love it. The rider could use some upgrading though haha

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn't we all use a little upgrading?

  • @Jeroensurf
    @Jeroensurf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, as always.
    i,m 188x95kg, You are a big guy too, is stiffness something to keep in mind with these bikes?
    You mentioned that the Tallboy is very stiff, but what about the other 2?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who are you calling a big guy?!?
      Fame stiffness is a bit of a factor for heavier riders. I think that's one reason the Tallboy descends as well as it does. The Ripley and Spur aren't as stout as the TB. They don't feel like a noodle or anything, but back to back with the TB you can feel the difference.

    • @em1355
      @em1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge I'm 188 x 92kg and have a Tallboy XL Carbon Frame and so far have no complaints about how the frame feels.

  • @craighata4350
    @craighata4350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, would a 140mm pike on front of the Ripley improve your downhill assessment or is it just overall geo

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it would certainly help. It would make the bike a little slacker and longer. The stiffness would be good too. Don’t know if it would be a night and day difference though.

  • @jackmcandle6955
    @jackmcandle6955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that Conner has a spur in his bed ii mean garage does he plan on doing a bike check on his spec and why ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I left mine bone stock except for putting a Fox 34 on the front instead of the SID. Oh and I shortened the stem to a 35mm for fit reasons.

  • @era8328
    @era8328 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How big/noticeable is the difference in climbing capability between these 3 bikes versus bikes with a little more travel, like Orbea Occam or the new Canyon Spectral 29?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure about the spectral but I think all of these except the Tallboy are quicker than the Occam. That Occam is pretty remarkable.

  • @best-sound
    @best-sound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ride the Ripley with a 120 fork? If so, would you think it would be a closer call to the Spur on the downhills using a 130 without losing the edge on the clibs?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never ridden it with less than the stock 130mm. I think the Spur is always going to be more stable because of the reach and wheelbase.

    • @best-sound
      @best-sound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bikersedge thanks! I am looking for an addition to my Ripmo for long multi day rides. I am really torn between those two bikes.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the Ripley is going to be more efficient and more comfortable than the Spur for long rides. It smooths out bumps more.

  • @TheNationalTrails
    @TheNationalTrails 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    vs the 2020 Specialized EVO carbon ST?
    Add a ST Link w/ a 190x42.5mm shock for 120mm rear travel. Combine with 150mm RS Pike fork w/ DeBonair C1 airspring ( 150 fork preserves BB height ).
    64.5-degree HTA and 76.5-degree STA when riding with a 2.6" rear tire and riding in "High Position."
    ** The not-so-good...165mm crankset could maybe go to 170mm? Its a low bottom-bracket height, even in the High position. **
    Rides way better than it should! Specialized has built an incredibly light Fact 11 frame. The FSR suspension acts more consistent w/ the short-travel link: doesn't sit too deep into its travel like it does with the standard 210x50mm shock. It simply rides like a "set-it and forget-it" trail bike.
    Note that the lighter the wheels... the better the ride quality. Its a BIG bike with a long, long wheelbase. Lightweight wheels and 2.6" tires give you back a lot energy and add extra trail confidence.
    The carbon EVO S3 ST weighs a little under 27-pounds with XO1 drivetrain, 1650-gram wheels, 29x2.6" Rekon tires, 150mm RS Pike, 190x42.5 shock, and a 180mm OneUp dropper post.
    ;-) All that said, I'd choose the Ripley in this test. Just love the low-weight and climbing ability!

  • @keith7043
    @keith7043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Connor, which bike at around a $ 5000 build would be the most plush on smooth trails?
    Thanks for your time

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s always going to be the Tallboy. The build kit really has nothing to do with how the suspension feels.