Kyle's trying to build a champion team. So if you want to sign with the Leafs, you're going to be signing a contract that's on the low side of fair value. Playing on a contender each & every year seems like a win-win.
@@neutralzone77_2.0 For a lot of players this could be their only opportunity for a big paycheck though. You never know with injuries and stuff, you could see why players around that age would try to get a big paycheck like that.
And Tavares already did, doesn't mean every player will nor should (Nylander doesn't have JT money or JT's past money already). We also may see a "discounted" contract, it just is higher then what fans wanted. McDavid's contract is very high but it is a discount by 500K minimum a year AAV.
@@eila2088 But, I'm not stating that the player gets low balled. Kyle has mentioned that he only wants players signing with the team if their in agreement with the teams philosophies moving forward. Which, I do believe, would be receiving low end fair value on contacts. If Kyle moves on from Nylander because he doesn't fit the plan, I think most fans would support him.
I like him. One of the few guys in hockey that actually has a personality. He seems ridiculously intelligent, and insightful, and can even speak the company line without sounding like he’s reading a cue card.
Derek Walter brendan must have seen something in this kid from the beginning. Its takes someone very special and smart to be a gm. Let alone one of the maple leafs. He has that new era to him that works really well in our big market. He will one day go down as one of the greatest gm’s. Mark my words.
He's done more interviews in one summer than Lou has his entire career , idk how I feel about that .. I like dubas and what he's done so far(mostly with this marlies) but i need to see how he handles the 3 main contracts and if he can actually get them all under long term contracts. So this year will be tough
The "C" is symbolic. Everyone should be a leader. Ownership mentality baby. That's the way to go. The front of the sweater means more then the back. Remember that. #AustonMatthewsforCaptian
If having to lose Nylander means we get to keep Matthews and Marner then so be it. Don't get me wrong I hope he stays but if he's being an I player and not a team player then you gotta let him go, maybe a trade for a high end D man.
Why even say that? He's re-signing here anyways so I don't really get why everyone is changing their tone on Nylander and saying this kind of stuff like he's selfish or something.
Willy's good when playing with the good guys, but doesn't drive a line like Mitch. When Mitch was on the 4th line they were producing. When Willy was on the 4th they sucked. When Matty got injured, Mitch drove that line with Willy just like Matty drives it. We miss Willy and need him but not like if Mitch was missing the whole team would be flat. Mitch also learned how to forecheck well, whereas Willy's forecheck is weak. Willy is going to get much better but so is Mitch. We could trade Willy and just get on with it, but there is no way in hell we would trade Mitch or Matty, not going to happen.
My opinion of Nylander has changed if he is going to hold out for top dollar then he doesn't have the teams best interest in mind and I don't want a player like that on my team.
I don’t know why but I was always trying so hard not to like him, but he’s a smart kid, I have some faith, William deserves what he’s asking but take a note from Kadri take one for the team, you won’t regret it.
Mitch fookin Marner That's not how this works. NM signed two years ago when the salary cap was lower, had only two 50 and 1 60 point seasons to his name and pedigree of 1st overall. Wasn't look like the player he is now. Pasta got higher AAV for one less year with bigger cap a year later and he had 2 okay season and 1 almost ppg bonkers ones. Pasta's contract is looking very team friendly and cap has taken big hike so Nylander can very reasonable point out that he may not have the 70pt season Pasta did he has more consistency and cap has risen to get the same or higher AAV at 6 year then Pasta. He may also want a "fair" contract and see that Pasta's is not "fair" but "team friendly". Kadri had two mediocre years before his deal and got a partial NTC. He got his awesome 30 goal, 55-60pt seasons after it was signed. He also held out for his one year deal he got before the big extension. It looks awesome cause he almost doubled his goal count and improved his defence.
Dubas has been excellent so far in the role of General Manager bar two major exceptions: 1. Lack of acquiring good defenseman. Case in point is not signing Calvin De Haan (4.5mill was probably too steep but he is tops in league in shots blocked and only getting better). Another miss was an easy pickup of Dan Hamhuis (1.25 cap hit). For every "modern dman" you need a stay at home take care of your own end vet like Ron Hainsey. I am not sold of the mobility aspect for both dmen ... you have a puck mover/potential powerplay guy mixed with a halfwall/cycle/front of the net specialist. Toronto needs a cheap steady on the rudder guys like the guys in Carolina (Pesce, Faulk). Nylander and Leivo + picks for Pesce and Faulk. 2. Not signing all three stars at once ... Marner is proving to be elite in all situations and is fast becoming the best Leaf ... better than Matthews. Nylander seems so far away now. Marner will want 10 and Matty 11 ... with our star quad (Tavares, Marner, Matty and Nylander ... that does not leave much cap space for signing Jake).
dude those are not major exceptions lol... he signed JT. And he would sign all three rn if he could but AM and MM aren’t gonna sign before the season. They wanna play and put up better numbers to get a bit more $. De haan wouldn’t be a game changer. Neither would Ham. Leafs fans like you are cancer
anthony thom 1 second ago Marner is elite elite..I think he leads leafs in scoring this yr.. Leafs better sign Willy Ny quick, probable payroll..JT @11M, AM34 @13M, Marner@12M, Willy @ 8.5M..get it done Dubas
Such a smart snake. Threatens Willander a couple of times by sounding nice to him. Teams saying "let us know if it don't workout" means we could send you to a shithole like AZ. "I wanna get it done by Dec 1 so he could play with us" - You can sit the whole season for all I care, maybe Ennis is for real.
Why is everything "philosophical"? I am not sure if that man knows what that word means. Lol There are a few philosophical thought processes. Natural, moral, metaphysical? I am no expert for sure but I have had some great professors.
It's more of conversational rhetoric expression, they're not actually delving into the different branches of epistemological, metaphysical, moral philosophy, etc. Even though to someone studying graduate philosophy, it does grind my ears a bit hearing it used in such a loose way--it's pretty common and standard to use it in such a context.
@@Kroitk I do understand what they are getting at. I just wanted to be a bit of a smart ass. We Marines don't get to be smart often. Thanks for the input bud!
Aesthetic JB doing favours man. Why you think they traded our pick away for Kessel. He said we needed scoring? Lmfao Toronto fans imho wanted to lose and rebuild... Hall or Seguin. These guys do these things for reasons we may never know.
I'd take that first rounder we gave for Kessel back anyday you know Hall or Seguin That's how you know it's a business these guys want money and long as Toronto is some what competitive that's good enough.
That dude on the right asks a "philosophical question" which was not philosophical. Then the next thing he says is "philosophically, ...". What a tool.
Simple answer... he is an idiot! Have you ever listened to his disaster of a radio show? He's self obsessed and in love with the sound of his own voice. He also regularly does these awkward pauses mid sentence that last a good 5 seconds but feel like an eternity.
Kyle is a really intelligent guy, I’m not even a Leafs fan but I love watching his interviews
must be the glasses
And he's hot too!
I haven’t even listened to this yet and I know I’m gonna love every word because Kyle Dubus is the goat
Edit: I was right
Yeah that's right !
Toronto made a good choice with him
Kyle's trying to build a champion team. So if you want to sign with the Leafs, you're going to be signing a contract that's on the low side of fair value. Playing on a contender each & every year seems like a win-win.
unfortunatly, not many understand or what to co-operate with this mentality. It's really too bad.
@@neutralzone77_2.0 For a lot of players this could be their only opportunity for a big paycheck though. You never know with injuries and stuff, you could see why players around that age would try to get a big paycheck like that.
And Tavares already did, doesn't mean every player will nor should (Nylander doesn't have JT money or JT's past money already). We also may see a "discounted" contract, it just is higher then what fans wanted. McDavid's contract is very high but it is a discount by 500K minimum a year AAV.
@@Burnsyx95 it's not the only contract. When this one expires, if he has a Stanley cup, he'll get paid handsomely for his services
@@eila2088
But, I'm not stating that the player gets low balled. Kyle has mentioned that he only wants players signing with the team if their in agreement with the teams philosophies moving forward. Which, I do believe, would be receiving low end fair value on contacts. If Kyle moves on from Nylander because he doesn't fit the plan, I think most fans would support him.
I like him. One of the few guys in hockey that actually has a personality. He seems ridiculously intelligent, and insightful, and can even speak the company line without sounding like he’s reading a cue card.
Derek Walter brendan must have seen something in this kid from the beginning. Its takes someone very special and smart to be a gm. Let alone one of the maple leafs. He has that new era to him that works really well in our big market. He will one day go down as one of the greatest gm’s. Mark my words.
He's a bit of a nerd, but he's our nerd lol
Yes!
#ournerd
I think having a "nerd" GM is becoming a thing. I like Dubas though.
Nerds are rich.
Rich is better
Every time I see Dubas, he looks more and more like Waldo
Kyle Dubas is so smart
Not your typical GM interview, not your typical GM👌👌
He's done more interviews in one summer than Lou has his entire career , idk how I feel about that .. I like dubas and what he's done so far(mostly with this marlies) but i need to see how he handles the 3 main contracts and if he can actually get them all under long term contracts. So this year will be tough
Young GM. Old School Coach. Young core. And Marleau the grandpa that the kids can look up to.
Always will be the ACC
CanadianAPX factss
SDA in the SBA
In about 10 years it will start to sound right. But for now I'll still call the acc, the acc. Lol
I have faith in "Doobie" Go leafs Go..
The "C" is symbolic. Everyone should be a leader. Ownership mentality baby. That's the way to go. The front of the sweater means more then the back. Remember that. #AustonMatthewsforCaptian
Scott Kazmer See how this season goes yet I don't agree he should be captain and I didn't even have him in top 3 once Tavares came here.
@Ryan Lockwood thanks for the support.
@@MineCraftDadnSon Matty was always top 3. Try again bud
Kyle shouldn't be up this late on a school night.
Interesting seeing this in 2023.
If having to lose Nylander means we get to keep Matthews and Marner then so be it. Don't get me wrong I hope he stays but if he's being an I player and not a team player then you gotta let him go, maybe a trade for a high end D man.
Rudy DogTV agreed
Why even say that? He's re-signing here anyways so I don't really get why everyone is changing their tone on Nylander and saying this kind of stuff like he's selfish or something.
You must be blind then. Mitch drives the team.
Willy's good when playing with the good guys, but doesn't drive a line like Mitch. When Mitch was on the 4th line they were producing. When Willy was on the 4th they sucked. When Matty got injured, Mitch drove that line with Willy just like Matty drives it. We miss Willy and need him but not like if Mitch was missing the whole team would be flat. Mitch also learned how to forecheck well, whereas Willy's forecheck is weak. Willy is going to get much better but so is Mitch. We could trade Willy and just get on with it, but there is no way in hell we would trade Mitch or Matty, not going to happen.
My opinion of Nylander has changed if he is going to hold out for top dollar then he doesn't have the teams best interest in mind and I don't want a player like that on my team.
I don’t know why but I was always trying so hard not to like him, but he’s a smart kid, I have some faith, William deserves what he’s asking but take a note from Kadri take one for the team, you won’t regret it.
Shawn Snow you think he deserves 8 million? Nathan Mackinnon is far better & signed for 6.3 million
Mitch fookin Marner That's not how this works. NM signed two years ago when the salary cap was lower, had only two 50 and 1 60 point seasons to his name and pedigree of 1st overall. Wasn't look like the player he is now. Pasta got higher AAV for one less year with bigger cap a year later and he had 2 okay season and 1 almost ppg bonkers ones. Pasta's contract is looking very team friendly and cap has taken big hike so Nylander can very reasonable point out that he may not have the 70pt season Pasta did he has more consistency and cap has risen to get the same or higher AAV at 6 year then Pasta. He may also want a "fair" contract and see that Pasta's is not "fair" but "team friendly".
Kadri had two mediocre years before his deal and got a partial NTC. He got his awesome 30 goal, 55-60pt seasons after it was signed. He also held out for his one year deal he got before the big extension. It looks awesome cause he almost doubled his goal count and improved his defence.
Sean Metivier so in your opinion what do you feel willy deserves?
kyle was also the assistant general manager for years...
Imagine thinking this fella won’t sign WN, AM and MM on good long termed contracts. Would never be me.
Losing Stevie Y is a HUGE loss to Tampa. Come home to Detroit Stevie come home!
Time will tell
Dubas has been excellent so far in the role of General Manager bar two major exceptions:
1. Lack of acquiring good defenseman. Case in point is not signing Calvin De Haan (4.5mill was probably too steep but he is tops in league in shots blocked and only getting better). Another miss was an easy pickup of Dan Hamhuis (1.25 cap hit). For every "modern dman" you need a stay at home take care of your own end vet like Ron Hainsey. I am not sold of the mobility aspect for both dmen ... you have a puck mover/potential powerplay guy mixed with a halfwall/cycle/front of the net specialist. Toronto needs a cheap steady on the rudder guys like the guys in Carolina (Pesce, Faulk). Nylander and Leivo + picks for Pesce and Faulk.
2. Not signing all three stars at once ... Marner is proving to be elite in all situations and is fast becoming the best Leaf ... better than Matthews. Nylander seems so far away now. Marner will want 10 and Matty 11 ... with our star quad (Tavares, Marner, Matty and Nylander ... that does not leave much cap space for signing Jake).
dude those are not major exceptions lol... he signed JT. And he would sign all three rn if he could but AM and MM aren’t gonna sign before the season. They wanna play and put up better numbers to get a bit more $. De haan wouldn’t be a game changer. Neither would Ham. Leafs fans like you are cancer
dude it and the fact that you want to resign Jake and improve our D seems very contradictory. No IQ
HalfFatHero - sounds like your brain is burning fat. Half brain and half fat ... your name says it all.
McCown is a mouthbreather.
anthony thom
1 second ago
Marner is elite elite..I think he leads leafs in scoring this yr.. Leafs better sign Willy Ny quick, probable payroll..JT @11M, AM34 @13M, Marner@12M, Willy @ 8.5M..get it done Dubas
Such a smart snake. Threatens Willander a couple of times by sounding nice to him. Teams saying "let us know if it don't workout" means we could send you to a shithole like AZ. "I wanna get it done by Dec 1 so he could play with us" - You can sit the whole season for all I care, maybe Ennis is for real.
Ennis has been for real for a long time in his NHL career.
@@monkeyfishh and for a long time not... maybe he needed linemates like these
Everytime Kyle says "Optimal" take a shot. you'll be shitfaced in 10 minutes
panarin and savard for nylander
"we can't, but we'll try"
What has this guy done that he goes around giving interviews once a week?
Rs Dhillon he is the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs.Hockey is always on Leaf Nation mind even in mid july
Signed tavares
Young Tom Cruise will make a wonderful GM
Why is everything "philosophical"? I am not sure if that man knows what that word means. Lol
There are a few philosophical thought processes. Natural, moral, metaphysical? I am no expert for sure but I have had some great professors.
It's more of conversational rhetoric expression, they're not actually delving into the different branches of epistemological, metaphysical, moral philosophy, etc.
Even though to someone studying graduate philosophy, it does grind my ears a bit hearing it used in such a loose way--it's pretty common and standard to use it in such a context.
@@Kroitk I do understand what they are getting at. I just wanted to be a bit of a smart ass. We Marines don't get to be smart often.
Thanks for the input bud!
Haha, ah gotcha, it's all good my man.
Dubas isn't dumb like Charelli. Still can't believe they traded Hall and signed Drai 9 mill.
Aesthetic JB doing favours man. Why you think they traded our pick away for Kessel. He said we needed scoring? Lmfao Toronto fans imho wanted to lose and rebuild... Hall or Seguin. These guys do these things for reasons we may never know.
You can tell who the hockey guy is and who the hacks are.
Nylander leaving for the pens
I would take kessel back
Mike Kessel >>>> all the leafs
Slander lol
I'd take that first rounder we gave for Kessel back anyday you know Hall or Seguin That's how you know it's a business these guys want money and long as Toronto is some what competitive that's good enough.
just started watching ...does he say "process" enough to start a drinking game?
no. optimal
That dude on the right asks a "philosophical question" which was not philosophical. Then the next thing he says is "philosophically, ...". What a tool.
Look at Dubs reping Timmies. Lol
Go Raptors!
Without Matthews the Leafs suck ! They benched him in the playoffs and got smoked !
Free Willy
I just don’t understand why buddy wears sunglasses inside like an idiot
lights in the studio? Seems like alot of radio people do.
Simple answer... he is an idiot! Have you ever listened to his disaster of a radio show? He's self obsessed and in love with the sound of his own voice. He also regularly does these awkward pauses mid sentence that last a good 5 seconds but feel like an eternity.
10 years too late for moneyball. "Indoctrinated"....More condos please!
Not worth 8 million
ovid4 6-6.5 max
Depends on term. 8 years is buying out more years including UFA. Talk of 6-7 range is with 6 year contract.
Who the hell said 8 mill? Where does this come from?
Apparently it's what he wants.
@@AngryPrimate apparently
Don't you have to go through puberty first before you become a GM in the NHL?
Would prefer that guy over most of GM in the league, doN,t really care how much hair he's got.
DUBAS FOR MAYOR OF TORONTO!!!
On what merit, the fact that he says big words? People like you should just stay at home and not vote.
The Clark Kent of gm's.
Leafsnet
Instead of giving interviews start talking with Willie.....
He is...
Kyle DuMbasS