Timestamps 0:01 Curiosity Stream 0:20 January 1921 Intro/ Theme 1:15 Britain and India in WW1 3:41 Montagu-Chelmsford Reforms 5:19 Gandhi Comes In 8:19 Sedition Acts and Armritsa Massacre
Another similar character in post independent indian history was Biju Patnaik(Chief Minister of Odhisa), he helped the Indonesian freedom fighters fly out of Dutch territory where planes couldn't land and ran supply lines for Tibetians fighting the Chinese.
millions of indians died because of both the great war and the second world war. It stinks that is not talked about. Most indians did not die in battle but from horrible mismanagment from the UK .
I'm hoping that either in a March episode or altogether in an October episode, that you guys do an in-depth coverage of Charles IV of Hungary's attempts to retake the Hungarian throne. The dynamic between him and Horthy has always been a very interesting subject to me, and I have seen little in the way of videos on this topic.
@@yj9032 what is real history. And what is saffron garbage. You seem to be anti bjp and wrote whatever came to your mind. I said how? Not no. If you know the answer write not your political spectrum which I don't care about
Odd that your videos are deemed advertising unfriendly, when this past week I keep getting an advertisement for tactical try with an AR rifle on uTube. How can a video be add unfriendly when they’re advertising tactical gun classes?
Many times I have had many videos interrupted by ads for 16 days in Berlin. Why is a channel that has ads running on other channels deemed inappropriate for advising. TH-cam is broken
According to TH-cam's guidelines A channel that has been deemed inappropriate for advertising does not get paid For any advertising shown in their videos That does not stop TH-cam from showing advertising because TH-cam still gets paid And TH-cam doesn't care who the advertiser is as long as they get paid
It's great to hear and I'm amazed as I listened to my Indian authentic history from a foreigner. Even the Indian names were pretty accurately pronounced. It's very to the point,as I'm a history fanatic guy. Lots & lots of ❤💗💖💝 from India🇮🇳. "JAI HIND" means Hail India🇮🇳.
Thank you Jesse, once again, to unveil the hidden story of India and the Mahatma during the 1920's because Gandhi is still popular in Lebanon even nowadays; and I personnally know two Lebanese people whose name is "Gandhi". Can't wait for the next episode of TGW!
hoping there would be more details captured on this topic in next videos as you have not even touched upon the Morley Minto reforms, Khilafat movement, Genocide by Moplahs, Chauri Chaura incident, this period was full of things which shaped India the way we see it today.
Main supporter of Dyre was 'O'Dwayor, the then governor of Punjab. He actually justified the actions of Dyre. The governor was finally assassinated by Udham Singh in London. Also weeks following Jallinwala Bagh massacre(Amritsar massacre) there were many more atrocities committed on indians.
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Nice description 👍, but many of the photographs seemed to be of Khilafat movement, a bizzare movement where Indian Muslims fought for rights of Ottoman ruler, whom even Turks didn't care about
I would assume that it's not trivial to find images of 1920s India that you can freely use, and for some reason they got their hands on a collection of images featuring that movement.
Amritsar is yet another example of what happens when you send the military to attempt to pacify a region. Sending the military is essentially an admission that a display of force is intended and required. I.e., a massacre was probably considered an acceptable outcome by those who ordered the military to Amritsar. What I find sad is that the politicians can't admit that THEY were at fault. That the actions of Dyer (and others) were the logical results of the strategies and philosophies of the British government at the time. Britain was determined to maintain their power over India...and had no intention of allowing Indians any real self governance...because that would inevitably result in the loss of British control. (Heck, post WW1, even the majority white colonies (Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) were all seriously looking to pull back from British control. The 'controversy' over Dyer remains because the British government has never admitted that they sent Dyer to Amritsar to produce exactly the result he produced...and because that result was a heinous act...they cannot take responsibility for it.
"Nonviolent civil disobedience." Love it, Jesse. I subscribe to the same ideal. For perspective, Hippies on the White House lawn, in peaceful protest, in 1968-71, were tear-gassed, beaten with clubs, and dragged off to jail.
Not you though. Either you were not borned back then, or you were just a kid. I don't know about others, but I don't blame an average British person for the whole thing. Plus, I know for a fact that the wealth extracted from India wasn't utilised to feed thousands of starving *British* orphans working in British factories, but rather they were used for making the fat ugly oligarchs fatter and uglier. Love to a human from another one here (regardless of our respective backgrounds).
I may be wrong, but I remember to have read that Churchill sympathized with Dyer and even was one of the originators of the fundrise in his favour. I am sorry not to have sources at my disposal.
No, Churchill was no friend of Dyer. He wasn't so much opposed to the shootings as he was having Dyer do it when he did and make India much harder to govern. He thought not warning the crown was an ungentlemanly thing to do as well.
The General who perpetuated the massacre was court-martialed. An action I think was appropriate. Not surprised that he was let off easy afterwards. I heard that many prominent British citizens contributed to the generals fund-raiser. One of whom was the famous British Author Kipling. Great video.
I'm so confused. Wasn't this video as well as many others on this channel in 4K like five days ago? I could swear that I watched this video in 4K about a week ago. Now it's ONLY available in 1080p, which just doesn't compare. Can anyone confirm that this and other vids from the channel were available in 4K just a short time ago? Why would the quality go down? It is possible that I'm mistaken too. But I'm quite certain of having watched it in 4K.
@@rationalist805 It was the result of a particularly funny glitch. He actually was supposed to be the least war-like leader, however, they forgot to prevent overflows, so when he became even more pacifist, he would suddenly become an insane warlord who threated to nuke everyone.
Just FYI, "Mahātmā" does not mean "one with the Great Soul." In the sense that Indians used it at that time, it referred to a saintly person. Literally it means a "Great Soul." Also, it's spelled/pronounced "Satyagraha" not "Satyagrehe." Well, that's the IAST transliteration, anyway. Phonetically it would be closer to "Satyagruhuh" rather than "Satyagrayhay."
So since this is the latest episode of The Great War, I have a question which I hope some can answer (and if not I’ll go to Reddit I guess). What happened to captured enemy trenches? Did they just leave them there, or did they keep them as defenses?
I've noticed native English speakers slightly aspirate their usual non aspirated consonants, and so, it becomes difficult for them to differentiate between the non aspirated d and the aspirated d (the dh). Hence the mistake of Ghandi in place of Gandhi.
@@ethandornton355 Churchill was all over the ideological map. He was even an independent MP at one point before losing his seat, prompting him to become a Tory. (A reporter asked him during his concession speech if "losing his seat was a blessing in disguise." Churchill replied, "If there is a blessing, it is very well disguised.")
Around twenty years before Gandhi was assassinated an Indian couple took their new son to a soothsayer. Who proclaimed, "All of India will know his name!" That baby would grow up to shoot Gandhi. I've forgotten his name.
Thanks for this video. And yet it took until 1948 for India to become independent. Churchill said at one point, when the British leave India the country will go into a bloodbath more intense than anything before. Was he right?
He was right. And hypocritical. The British "ruled" their colonies by stoking animosity among local ethnic and religious groups, creating so much distrust that British administration would be indispensable for order. In India the British replaced weakened Muslim empires, and played the religion card against Muslims and Hindus both. This policy continued even after native Indians received limited self rule, and by the 1940s the two main political parties- Congress and the Muslim League- were irreconcilable and the latter wanted and received a separate country they called Pakistan.
@@petergray2712 And so the myth that the Brits would control whole populations by pitting them one against another like dogs in a dog fight. It reinforces the view that Brits looked down on everyone else and were content to use them. Is that what you want to believe?
@@alg11297 You're distorting my words. "Creating distrust" isn't "fighting like dogs". The British selectively favored one group at a time with more economic and political privileges, like promoting one group to essentially be middle management (Hindus ruling Muslim majority Kashmir, A Saudi Sunni king ruling Shia majority Iraq, Protestant Scottish immigrants administering Catholic Ireland etc....). This policy didn't make intercommunal violence inevitable, but it was the root of most recorded outbreaks. In many cases there wasn't a deliberate unified policy of division, but British colonial authorities became biased towards amenable, collaborating or "familiar" groups or factions, and promoted them to power.
If the British were to leave India even in 1930 the whole partition situation could have been avoided since the rift between the INC and muslim groups such as the Muslim league wasn't big and the demand for a separate Pakistan wasn't very popular, and hindutva groups were still very small. So no the violence wasn't inevitable, it was a result of colonial policy trying to separate people on religious lines, mis-steps of nationalist leaders and the INC, until the positions of the two main parties in pre-independence India, the INC and the Muslim League had completely incompatible visions for a post-independence Indian Subcontinent.
Colonial governments are kinda like a casino, the house wins, at least in the short run. Country's have other avenues in which they are able to pursue self interest.
Here is one independence movement that did not involve the establishment of a cruel totalitarian dictatorship or the worshipping of an overarching personality cult where the leader is treated as a demigod.
@@Game_Hero Ghandi may have been worshipped as independence leader but his followers consider him more akin to George Washington in the United States than Vladimir Lenin or Mao Zedong. It is also important to point out that he left political power in the hands of Nehru, a mark contrast to independence leaders of other countries, and he was not interested in converting his family into a political dynasty.
Sadly, Gandhi faced competition from the Hindutva movement. K.B. Hedgewar will found the Rashtriya Swayamsavek Sangh (RSS) in 1925, inspired by the work of V.D. Savarkar. Hindutva emphasized the "Hinduness" of India, rejecting all "foreign" historical influences. This exacerbated Anti-Muslim sentiment, and the Indian Congress Party was perceived to be exploiting this sentiment for political reasons. So India didn't idolize a Big Man ruler or follow totalitarianism, but it did create a banana republic system of patronage politics built around competing or overlapping regional identities, with an unhealthy dose of semi-fascist national chauvinism. Nathuram Godse- Gandhi's assassin- was a member of the RSS, btw.
Exactly. He was quite pleased with the idea of oppressing native Africans in South Africa and elsewhere, but when HE became the target, he howled about "injustice."
@@diarradunlap9337 This presumes his complaints were false. Cultures arent all equal. The culture he was coming from was much more advanced, his points were not all invalid.
Its insulting to all muslims to consider that Mahatma Gandhi was rooting equally for both hindus and muslims , that is immensely untrue . Not only that but its sad you failed to mention the muslim side in all of this especially Mohammad Ali Jinnah.
I heard that many Muslims considered it inevitable that Hindus would discriminate Muslims and therefore wanted some guarantees. Care to comment on how off the mark I am/correct me where I am wrong?
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 saying it were inevitable would be saying it didnt happen , it was factuale, it did happen from the time the mughal empire ended . Even to this day there is blatant discrimination in current india where all top priority positions and jobs are reserved for Hindus and muslims are suppressed .
@@DaveSCameron its the discrimination against muslims was the reason why there NEEEDED to be seperate nation , even tho Pakistan was NOT created on the mindset of a theocratic state regardless of how it has comd to be now .
@@DaveSCameron United India would have been how british rule was over hindus and muslims only this time it were hindus over muslims and much worse , civil war would have been inevitable , seeing how BJP is these days and civil war in current India is also in the considerable light because of the harsh rullings over the Indian Sikh community . it would have the muslims if it were a united india
@@jessealexander2695thanks for taking the time to reply, but you are not grasping the error of saying "British Empire" that only came after the war of independence
I understand what you mean (after 1857's "Sepoy Rebellion" or "Indian Mutiny" as it has been better known in English in the past), but I felt that distinction for the purpose o this general video was not of critical importance. The idea was to communicate that India was part of the (informal) British empire for a long time before the evnts we discuss. Anyway I hope you enjoiyed the video. @@sulaymankindi
Timestamps
0:01 Curiosity Stream
0:20 January 1921 Intro/ Theme
1:15 Britain and India in WW1
3:41 Montagu-Chelmsford Reforms
5:19 Gandhi Comes In
8:19 Sedition Acts and Armritsa Massacre
I can't fathom the fact that british people today still find the massacre debatable (at least according to this video).
@@zight99user is that sarcasm
@@zight99user the absolute state of angloids lmao
That's a running theme with the brits unfortunately
Could’ve really been self-defense, and it was brown people behind the rifles, not Anglos.
@@zight99user L
You know Roy deserves his own episode. The dude was so unique he ended up creating the comunist party of mexico.
Fricking WHAT?!
@@joshuapackbier7798 he also was kind of influential among some friends in Germany in the kpd.
@@josedavidgarcesceballos7 Did not watch the episode yet but are you talking about Manabendra Nath Roy?
@@arghyachatterjee3008 yes
Another similar character in post independent indian history was Biju Patnaik(Chief Minister of Odhisa), he helped the Indonesian freedom fighters fly out of Dutch territory where planes couldn't land and ran supply lines for Tibetians fighting the Chinese.
"The debate in Britain is still ongoing."
Yea I bet the debate in India about weather or not this guy was a murderer isn't still ongoing
there I was thinking 1914-18 was interesting but 1918 onwards history just keep on getting more interesting - well done
I love that this channel continued after the end of WWI, there is still so much to learn, great work Jesse, Flo and team 😌
Magnificent job Jesse!! I wanted a video about the India and Gandhi's nacionalist movement. Greetings from México 🇲🇽🥰
If a saw indie and Jessse in one place would be like a crossover episode
Well, you're in luck my friend, both were guest narrators in the Operation Room's _Battle of the Bulge_ video.
An Indian 'Brown Sahib' must be the same as an Irish 'Castle Catholic'.
millions of indians died because of both the great war and the second world war. It stinks that is not talked about. Most indians did not die in battle but from horrible mismanagment from the UK .
I'm hoping that either in a March episode or altogether in an October episode, that you guys do an in-depth coverage of Charles IV of Hungary's attempts to retake the Hungarian throne. The dynamic between him and Horthy has always been a very interesting subject to me, and I have seen little in the way of videos on this topic.
Keep an eye out. :)
Was an important time, glad this channel is still covering events even post wwi
India's Independence Movement indirectly helped Irish Movements of Independence to ultimately succeed.
How man??
@@ShubhamMishrabro you’ll know if you read real history, not saffron garbage.
@@yj9032 what is real history. And what is saffron garbage. You seem to be anti bjp and wrote whatever came to your mind. I said how? Not no. If you know the answer write not your political spectrum which I don't care about
😂yeah and hitler did nothing to contribute in independence of india😂
Odd that your videos are deemed advertising unfriendly, when this past week I keep getting an advertisement for tactical try with an AR rifle on uTube. How can a video be add unfriendly when they’re advertising tactical gun classes?
Many times I have had many videos interrupted by ads for 16 days in Berlin.
Why is a channel that has ads running on other channels deemed inappropriate for advising.
TH-cam is broken
According to TH-cam's guidelines A channel that has been deemed inappropriate for advertising does not get paid For any advertising shown in their videos That does not stop TH-cam from showing advertising because TH-cam still gets paid And TH-cam doesn't care who the advertiser is as long as they get paid
They're on Nebula. Well worth the money.
It's great to hear and I'm amazed as I listened to my Indian authentic history from a foreigner. Even the Indian names were pretty accurately pronounced. It's very to the point,as I'm a history fanatic guy.
Lots & lots of ❤💗💖💝 from India🇮🇳.
"JAI HIND" means Hail India🇮🇳.
Thank you Jesse, once again, to unveil the hidden story of India and the Mahatma during the 1920's because Gandhi is still popular in Lebanon even nowadays; and I personnally know two Lebanese people whose name is "Gandhi". Can't wait for the next episode of TGW!
Thanks Rabih!
Didn't know that
Thank you for preserving Gandhi’s legacy. Today, right wing forces are defaming Gandhi and are demonising him.
*Yeeesss!* Thank you. Jesse you're great
Yay, the most waited moment of the month
hoping there would be more details captured on this topic in next videos as you have not even touched upon the Morley Minto reforms, Khilafat movement, Genocide by Moplahs, Chauri Chaura incident, this period was full of things which shaped India the way we see it today.
Main supporter of Dyre was 'O'Dwayor, the then governor of Punjab. He actually justified the actions of Dyre. The governor was finally assassinated by Udham Singh in London.
Also weeks following Jallinwala Bagh massacre(Amritsar massacre) there were many more atrocities committed on indians.
World War 2 Channel should make a video on Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose and Indian National Army.
Gandhi: Britain will give us home rule
Britain: yeah about that..........
Thanks for the continued uploads, despite the absolutely Byzantine TH-cam censorship machine. I've been here since 2014 and the ride has been incredibly educational and enjoyable
Easily my favorite channel on TH-cam, these are the people History channel should of had.
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It's "Gandhi" not "Ghandi", that's a major mistake please correct it!!
@@Rahul_Raju its not a major mistake.
@@kyemitchell5720 you wrote this comment 11 minutes after your second account stop lying.
Great work as usual guys. Here’s my sacrificial comment for the algorithm
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You must send an email to Nebula and explain the situation. They will help you.
It worked for me. Have you used the codes provided here? I'm sure support will be able to help you out ...
"if I was to justify my action, not that I am justifying my action of massacring a bunch of innocent people I would never do that!" - Reginald Dyer
George Curzin: "As long as we rule India we are the greatest power in the world."
Ireland: "Really?"
Ireland has nothing to plunder,India however has endless riches and manpower....so yes indeed
Yes, really. Look at what happened afted Indias independence.
@@UncleSamSiam what happened?
@@gytx5339 only backward steps
@@DimBeam1 can you elaborate?
5:50 If his name was Ghandi thn Churchill's name was Chameleon.
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One of your greatest videos. Truly capturing...
Nice description 👍, but many of the photographs seemed to be of Khilafat movement, a bizzare movement where Indian Muslims fought for rights of Ottoman ruler, whom even Turks didn't care about
I would assume that it's not trivial to find images of 1920s India that you can freely use, and for some reason they got their hands on a collection of images featuring that movement.
After Ataturk he abolished empire thus the movement died
Those bizarre Muslims now live in Pakistan.
Amritsar is yet another example of what happens when you send the military to attempt to pacify a region.
Sending the military is essentially an admission that a display of force is intended and required. I.e., a massacre was probably considered an acceptable outcome by those who ordered the military to Amritsar.
What I find sad is that the politicians can't admit that THEY were at fault. That the actions of Dyer (and others) were the logical results of the strategies and philosophies of the British government at the time. Britain was determined to maintain their power over India...and had no intention of allowing Indians any real self governance...because that would inevitably result in the loss of British control. (Heck, post WW1, even the majority white colonies (Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) were all seriously looking to pull back from British control.
The 'controversy' over Dyer remains because the British government has never admitted that they sent Dyer to Amritsar to produce exactly the result he produced...and because that result was a heinous act...they cannot take responsibility for it.
Make a video about Operation Nemesis and the assassination of Talaat Pasha the former Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire, in Berlin on March 15, 1921
"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's needs, but not every man's greed." - Gandhi
This is the exact spelling of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. NOT Ghandi
Thank you for video
Don't eyeball me, Gandhi!
Hello The Great War can you make the story of Bhagat Singh please😁
“India is a beautiful bride and Hindus and Muslims are her two eyes.”
- Syed Ahmad Khan
Wasn’t Burma ruled as part of British India until 1937?
"Nonviolent civil disobedience." Love it, Jesse. I subscribe to the same ideal.
For perspective, Hippies on the White House lawn, in peaceful protest, in 1968-71, were tear-gassed, beaten with clubs, and dragged off to jail.
Killing over 300 people to save face, how civilized
Amazing content.
Julius Ceasar on the Gauls: ' if the Gauls could unite, they could move the Heavans'.
This is what Mahatma Gandhi did.
This whole episode shows just how bad we were in South Asia and there are still parts of the UK population who don't get it
Not you though. Either you were not borned back then, or you were just a kid. I don't know about others, but I don't blame an average British person for the whole thing.
Plus, I know for a fact that the wealth extracted from India wasn't utilised to feed thousands of starving *British* orphans working in British factories, but rather they were used for making the fat ugly oligarchs fatter and uglier.
Love to a human from another one here (regardless of our respective backgrounds).
Wow, it looks like everyone is looking for alternatives to TH-cam.
As well they should be.
This aged well
I may be wrong, but I remember to have read that Churchill sympathized with Dyer and even was one of the originators of the fundrise in his favour. I am sorry not to have sources at my disposal.
No, Churchill was no friend of Dyer. He wasn't so much opposed to the shootings as he was having Dyer do it when he did and make India much harder to govern. He thought not warning the crown was an ungentlemanly thing to do as well.
The General who perpetuated the massacre was court-martialed. An action I think was appropriate. Not surprised that he was let off easy afterwards. I heard that many prominent British citizens contributed to the generals fund-raiser. One of whom was the famous British Author Kipling. Great video.
Brilliant video
Which Nebula App, do I look for, for an iPhone?
I'm pretty sure that an equivalent to The Rowlatt Act is in the US Congress as you speak.
That's not very freedom loving for the home of the free
Ah yes, this man we know from history. Ghandi.
*Civilization
Gandhi*
@@Game_Hero Keep away from those nukes GHANDI !!!
I'm so confused. Wasn't this video as well as many others on this channel in 4K like five days ago? I could swear that I watched this video in 4K about a week ago. Now it's ONLY available in 1080p, which just doesn't compare.
Can anyone confirm that this and other vids from the channel were available in 4K just a short time ago? Why would the quality go down? It is possible that I'm mistaken too. But I'm quite certain of having watched it in 4K.
The Brits were so tough to Indians, while in Europe they were saved 2 times by the Americans.
Same goes to the Belgian and the Dutch state.
Thank you for your continuous meticulous work. 🧡💛🧡
Just keep Ghandi away from that red nuclear button, that's all I ask. No that's all i beg !
ummm...isnt he on the path of non-violence....y beg for that?
@@rationalist805 It's a Civilization reference; Gandhi was the leader in the game who was most likely to call for nuclear war.
@@theobuniel9643 and how did u arrive at the conclusion that he was most likely to call for nuclear war?
@@rationalist805 It was the result of a particularly funny glitch. He actually was supposed to be the least war-like leader, however, they forgot to prevent overflows, so when he became even more pacifist, he would suddenly become an insane warlord who threated to nuke everyone.
@@Orinslayer oooh yea....I see....ur fuckn genius dude...go run for presidency...u might topple Mr Putin
Just FYI, "Mahātmā" does not mean "one with the Great Soul." In the sense that Indians used it at that time, it referred to a saintly person. Literally it means a "Great Soul."
Also, it's spelled/pronounced "Satyagraha" not "Satyagrehe." Well, that's the IAST transliteration, anyway. Phonetically it would be closer to "Satyagruhuh" rather than "Satyagrayhay."
Can’t wait for you guys to get to 1939 in 18 years
"We must govern you as you are not capable of governing yourselves."
Sounds like the same logic in creating the American electoral college.
"The shooting will continue until you disperse."
So since this is the latest episode of The Great War, I have a question which I hope some can answer (and if not I’ll go to Reddit I guess). What happened to captured enemy trenches? Did they just leave them there, or did they keep them as defenses?
Really starting to hate the English government. At least as it was.
Don't worry, nowadays everyone even hates their own country
Any channels for World war 2?
Will you talk about the situation leading to the formation of Pakistan?
He mentioned the it the first act which was khilafat movement then Muslim league gained popularity with ali Jinnah as leader of it
Several (but not all) of the graphics have "Gandhi" misspelled as "Ghandi"
I've noticed native English speakers slightly aspirate their usual non aspirated consonants, and so, it becomes difficult for them to differentiate between the non aspirated d and the aspirated d (the dh). Hence the mistake of Ghandi in place of Gandhi.
Consequences, i hope Britain and rest of colonial contry get them.
Winston Churchill wasn’t a liberal more like a conservative!!!!!!!
He spent 20 years in the Liberal Party. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill%27s_Liberal_Party_years,_1904%E2%80%931924
@@jessealexander2695 I guess I’ll have to check that out, thanks for responding Jesse I love the work you do!!!
@@ethandornton355 Churchill was all over the ideological map. He was even an independent MP at one point before losing his seat, prompting him to become a Tory.
(A reporter asked him during his concession speech if "losing his seat was a blessing in disguise." Churchill replied, "If there is a blessing, it is very well disguised.")
@@petergray2712 shame he lost his seat as a prime minister Britain could’ve used him in the Cold War!!!!!!!!!!
@@ethandornton355 He was Prime Minister again from 1951 to 1955.
For Brigadefuhrer Dyer :I vote butcher
Around twenty years before Gandhi was assassinated an Indian couple took their new son to a soothsayer. Who proclaimed, "All of India will know his name!"
That baby would grow up to shoot Gandhi. I've forgotten his name.
I wonder at all if Curiosity String or Skillshare are creating a brain drain of creators from TH-cam because of TH-cam’s harsh policies.
Gandhi, man this guy will never amount to anything more than a foot note in history, what like Britain will ever fully give up India
Eww
2021, and UK is still debating whether massacres are acceptable. Stay classy, UK.
What's happened to Indy?
NO ONE CHECKED THE SPELLING OF GANDHI
Thanks for this video. And yet it took until 1948 for India to become independent. Churchill said at one point, when the British leave India the country will go into a bloodbath more intense than anything before. Was he right?
He was right because of the Nasty conflicts between Muslims and Hindus.
He was right. And hypocritical. The British "ruled" their colonies by stoking animosity among local ethnic and religious groups, creating so much distrust that British administration would be indispensable for order. In India the British replaced weakened Muslim empires, and played the religion card against Muslims and Hindus both. This policy continued even after native Indians received limited self rule, and by the 1940s the two main political parties- Congress and the Muslim League- were irreconcilable and the latter wanted and received a separate country they called Pakistan.
@@petergray2712 And so the myth that the Brits would control whole populations by pitting them one against another like dogs in a dog fight. It reinforces the view that Brits looked down on everyone else and were content to use them. Is that what you want to believe?
@@alg11297 You're distorting my words. "Creating distrust" isn't "fighting like dogs". The British selectively favored one group at a time with more economic and political privileges, like promoting one group to essentially be middle management (Hindus ruling Muslim majority Kashmir, A Saudi Sunni king ruling Shia majority Iraq, Protestant Scottish immigrants administering Catholic Ireland etc....). This policy didn't make intercommunal violence inevitable, but it was the root of most recorded outbreaks. In many cases there wasn't a deliberate unified policy of division, but British colonial authorities became biased towards amenable, collaborating or "familiar" groups or factions, and promoted them to power.
If the British were to leave India even in 1930 the whole partition situation could have been avoided since the rift between the INC and muslim groups such as the Muslim league wasn't big and the demand for a separate Pakistan wasn't very popular, and hindutva groups were still very small. So no the violence wasn't inevitable, it was a result of colonial policy trying to separate people on religious lines, mis-steps of nationalist leaders and the INC, until the positions of the two main parties in pre-independence India, the INC and the Muslim League had completely incompatible visions for a post-independence Indian Subcontinent.
Colonial governments are kinda like a casino, the house wins, at least in the short run. Country's have other avenues in which they are able to pursue self interest.
Britian should return to it's great imperial history🇬🇧
We need Andy
Where my hug at
Clicked on this and realised how much I need to get away from social media. I am becoming a zombie..
I taught it was about Mata Hari...
Sun?
Gandhi
Just out of curiosity, what happened to the original Indy Nidel guy? Just noticed these were two different dudes lol
Whaat? Sikh Regiment opened fire at jaliawala bagh? 😮 ...That's bullshit! They killed thier own brothers and sisters? 😳
Debatable ?? I think the appropriate word is mass-murderer.
TH-cam is being wack and it’s going to be their downfall
This aged well.
Any Indians 😀
The rhythm and tone of your commentary drives me nuts!
Here is one independence movement that did not involve the establishment of a cruel totalitarian dictatorship or the worshipping of an overarching personality cult where the leader is treated as a demigod.
Ireland, Finland, Norway ...
I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement. Ghandhi was a demigod for many.
@@Game_Hero Ghandi may have been worshipped as independence leader but his followers consider him more akin to George Washington in the United States than Vladimir Lenin or Mao Zedong. It is also important to point out that he left political power in the hands of Nehru, a mark contrast to independence leaders of other countries, and he was not interested in converting his family into a political dynasty.
Sadly, Gandhi faced competition from the Hindutva movement. K.B. Hedgewar will found the Rashtriya Swayamsavek Sangh (RSS) in 1925, inspired by the work of V.D. Savarkar. Hindutva emphasized the "Hinduness" of India, rejecting all "foreign" historical influences. This exacerbated Anti-Muslim sentiment, and the Indian Congress Party was perceived to be exploiting this sentiment for political reasons. So India didn't idolize a Big Man ruler or follow totalitarianism, but it did create a banana republic system of patronage politics built around competing or overlapping regional identities, with an unhealthy dose of semi-fascist national chauvinism.
Nathuram Godse- Gandhi's assassin- was a member of the RSS, btw.
Wouldn't be so peaceful if nukes were already invented
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Fun fact: As much as ghandi liked tween girls he disliked blacks in South Africa more.
Exactly. He was quite pleased with the idea of oppressing native Africans in South Africa and elsewhere, but when HE became the target, he howled about "injustice."
@@diarradunlap9337 yeah, but wasn't this when ghandi was younger? If so, that just means, he was able to change and learn from his mistakes.
@@diarradunlap9337 This presumes his complaints were false. Cultures arent all equal. The culture he was coming from was much more advanced, his points were not all invalid.
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 He never recanted these views.
@@diarradunlap9337 proof?
There was no violence by Indians committed before Jallianwala Bagh. This video is biased one.
Indian nationalism? How about british chauvinism? The British who fought against the Germans were also nationalists?
Its insulting to all muslims to consider that Mahatma Gandhi was rooting equally for both hindus and muslims , that is immensely untrue . Not only that but its sad you failed to mention the muslim side in all of this especially Mohammad Ali Jinnah.
I heard that many Muslims considered it inevitable that Hindus would discriminate Muslims and therefore wanted some guarantees.
Care to comment on how off the mark I am/correct me where I am wrong?
all ur doing is conveying false information .
@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 saying it were inevitable would be saying it didnt happen , it was factuale, it did happen from the time the mughal empire ended . Even to this day there is blatant discrimination in current india where all top priority positions and jobs are reserved for Hindus and muslims are suppressed .
@@DaveSCameron its the discrimination against muslims was the reason why there NEEEDED to be seperate nation , even tho Pakistan was NOT created on the mindset of a theocratic state regardless of how it has comd to be now .
@@DaveSCameron United India would have been how british rule was over hindus and muslims only this time it were hindus over muslims and much worse , civil war would have been inevitable , seeing how BJP is these days and civil war in current India is also in the considerable light because of the harsh rullings over the Indian Sikh community . it would have the muslims if it were a united india
Uncle Ghandi Farbror Ghandi!
Since the 18 th century???
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_rule_in_India
@@jessealexander2695thanks for taking the time to reply, but you are not grasping the error of saying "British Empire" that only came after the war of independence
I understand what you mean (after 1857's "Sepoy Rebellion" or "Indian Mutiny" as it has been better known in English in the past), but I felt that distinction for the purpose o this general video was not of critical importance. The idea was to communicate that India was part of the (informal) British empire for a long time before the evnts we discuss. Anyway I hope you enjoiyed the video. @@sulaymankindi