Heavy Club Recommendations for Men

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  • @timboha8191
    @timboha8191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I was practicing transitions with my 6kg club in the garden today, managed to launch it into the fence, so glad I decided to train outside.

  • @michaelsenft3608
    @michaelsenft3608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Note to everyone - Mark is stronger than you, and has achieved the 10,000 rep axiom if mastery. I have 10lb, 20lb and 45lb clubs. They have been sitting in the corner since I bought them two years ago. Inspired by these videos and our forced incarceration, i have been transformed by these new training protocols. But, after a cursory try at the 10lb club, I decided to go directly to the 20. I can put 100kg overhead easy; the 20lb almost ripped my shoulder out when I went behind my head with it. Thankfully no real damage. The 10lb and I will now become intimate. The 45lb will be a massive doorstop or for swings only for the foreseeable future. Don’t be a macho meathead - use less and master the movement

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They are humbling.

    • @boispw
      @boispw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarkWildman I am 65 with all my strength in legs, pretty weak upper body and bad tendinosis in both shoulders. I suspect I should get 10lbs to start, but should I consider going even lighter?

    • @Jetlifeetravi
      @Jetlifeetravi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm pretty strong of a dude. Went out and got a 45 thinking it would be easy. I can't even swing it

    • @michaelryan2416
      @michaelryan2416 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Me strong like bull. Been lifting weights for years. These clubs are a different breed for sure. Much more functional Me like

    • @richardayala4356
      @richardayala4356 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was going to start with 15lbs, but after reading your comments, I will start with the ten lbs. I am 75 and in good shape but I never really focused on the joints as Mark illustrated. Thanks.

  • @olglez9230
    @olglez9230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It's been said before but I'll say it again. Always go lighter! I've been using a 4kg, 6kg, and 8kg. I've found that I'm generally strong in a lot of movements but my elbows need time still to adapt

  • @Retrograde6
    @Retrograde6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'll vouch for how heavy clubs can feel. I bought pair of 15 on clubs. Eager to learn I watched Mark's vids on particular club exercises. Did every exercise in the lists. My wrists were *screaming* for next couple of days, including tendons that run through wrists into hand. For reference I can deadlift > 405, snatch 106lb kettlebell, bench > 300. The clubs are brutal. Really fun though.

  • @traceyam20
    @traceyam20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video. Thanks for continuing to share your knowledge and experience

  • @bretparker6172
    @bretparker6172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you. How have I lived over 60 years, use barbells and dumbells without really changing anything. I’m now inspired to try this. Thank you for simplifying the How To aspects of this unusual (to me) form of truly functional fitness. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The student is ready. Teach me.

  • @listenup455
    @listenup455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I got into heavy clubs after discovering your videos, and I love them! I started with a 15lb, then recently I picked up a 25lb. Definitely a pretty substantial jump, but it works for me because I can still do single arm movements with the 15 and double arm with the 25.

  • @bdove7939
    @bdove7939 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I agree with some of the other comments. I started with a 10 and still was expecting to give myself a shiner while doing the shield cast. Eventually I got the hang of it. The 15lb is just now becoming more manageable and that is after a year. Listen to Mark's detailed instructions on grip and arm positions in other videos. It worth the study time. Thank you Mark for making things clear and explaining the important things.

  • @sasorijavec5606
    @sasorijavec5606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the clear presentation and detailed instructions. I am 50 years old and I made iron clubs and I do exercises with heavy clubs twice a week because I still like to challenge myself. Thanks for putting in the effort and sharing tips and tutorials with us. I realy like all your videos it helps me a lot . Greetings from Slovenia

  • @tro9490
    @tro9490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just got my 1st club from White Lion Athletics in CDN.
    Glad I watched this 1st and went with 6kg and will then move to 8, then 10. The club is just a different beast.
    Thanks for all the videos Mark, just awesome detail, no bullshit. (And we get this access to a pro instructor for free!) waiting on the app though, sounds like I will be thrilled to start paying for your expertise!

  • @TheSwayzeTrain
    @TheSwayzeTrain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the info Mark. Im going picking up a club after watching your videos, I never even considered using them prior to hearing you talk about them.

  • @tnCEO2023
    @tnCEO2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Mark, love your videos

  • @juggernautathletics
    @juggernautathletics 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! I have two 15lb clubs for volume work and a 35lb club for 2 handed movements. Love your content!

  • @dlloydy5356
    @dlloydy5356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant information & explanation. Thank you

  • @joshhead9368
    @joshhead9368 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was super helpful man thanks so much.

  • @andy_in_nh9243
    @andy_in_nh9243 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information and advice!

  • @nfurfaro33
    @nfurfaro33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, love the channel! I recently got my first club before watching this video, and chose a 12 kg(26lb). Needless to say I can't do mokeuch one-handed with it unless I choke up my grip. White lion athletic here in Canada sells clubs in 2kg increments, so I'm looking at either a 6kg or 8kg next(13.2lbs/17.6lbs).
    Thanks for all the quality videos!

  • @steakmitei
    @steakmitei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see a club workout routine for the quarantine.....

  • @adamhodges8882
    @adamhodges8882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the pragmatic advice Mark. I'm 51, spent 30 years in the military, but never used clubs before. I'm sure I should be able to get them from an Australian Company called "Iron Edge"in kg equivalent weights. Kind regards Adam.

  • @neilbates6880
    @neilbates6880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You are so right when you recommend starting with a 6kg. I thought I was strong from kettlebells. The 6kg club arrived today...wow. Straight back to being a beginner. Thank you for all of your video guidance. Massively appreciated.

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah. They are a whole new ballgame

    • @schroedder5090
      @schroedder5090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @neil bates which weights do you use for kettlebell? because i also think that i am strong enough from kettlebelling and my years of fitness before that to start with a 8kg club, but now i am back at considering a 6kg

    • @neilbates6880
      @neilbates6880 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      24 kg kettlebell was my go-to, but the 6kg club was rough.

  • @joshd2861
    @joshd2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Purchased a 15 lbs and 25 lbs RMAX (CST) based upon watching Wildman on this channel. Soooo happy I did. Love them and cannot recommend enough. Note, when I ordered, these were two of the only ones available so I didn't have much choice on size. A 15 lb is never going to be useless imo as you can do one handed stuff, etc. (eventually move to double 15's if you want) 25 lbs club feels more like 40 lbs if you were to just pick it up and guess. Not sure if he mentions in this video, but the RMAX are a good bit longer than onnit. Onnit is obviously a great company, but I'm glad I went w/ the original RMAX. Also, imo these clubs challenge grip more than kettlebells.

  • @bobbyjoefit
    @bobbyjoefit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking this suggestion with the thor Kettlebell as well. Thanks Mark

  • @AlexanderGent
    @AlexanderGent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would just clarify this is specific to clubbell exercises. Heavy wooden (Indian) clubs should be far lighter. British Military style is around 3kg. Also much lighter when starting and for more technical stuff.
    Good points around the joint strength in movement. Something most don't think about.

  • @herbertplumer5212
    @herbertplumer5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m on the 9t9 website now, great timing! Ps are you going to continue your basic human series?

  • @raspyni
    @raspyni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just finding you, Mark. Thanks for all these great videos. I'm ready to move beyond the 1.5 and 2 lb clubs I've used for year. Excited.

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get an adex club system. Fat handle and start working your way up

  • @StantonTeters
    @StantonTeters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad I started watching your videos two or three months ago as I had some 10 and 15 pound clubbells that hadn't been used much since I got them 10 or 15 years ago. I mostly did arm casts with them, but I'm finding the circular movements are good for resolving some muscle imbalances I have. Thanks for that.
    Have you looked at the Adex clubs? As you have mentioned I like having the rubberized covering for the Scott Sonnon clubbells, but since I live in an apartment in New York I am wondering if having a single adjustable club might be good for filling out the rest of the weights and save some space.

  • @ibraheemabdullah4835
    @ibraheemabdullah4835 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much!

  • @stuartstent4764
    @stuartstent4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Mark - Any chance of you doing a video on single arm progressions and programs for clubs?

  • @jarchdm
    @jarchdm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In going through your whole back catalogue of videos.right now focusing on the mace transitions. I've made my own 4.5 kg mace and padded it so I won't break anything important like my face.
    I've also made a 4 5 kg club that's "adjustable" meaning I can just weld on more re bar to add more weight. I really appreciate your professional approach to the training and your methodical work. That's why I'm confused by your recommendation of starting with 15 pounds. I'm fairly strong but if i mess up an inward shield cast with my off hand I feel the potential for messing up my shoulder. I can't imagine starting with 7kg and messing that up I think that would be a very bad day and end training for a while if not forever.

  • @krishnakumar-nq9jz
    @krishnakumar-nq9jz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome👌👏👍🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
    I am very proud to see my country's fitness equipment with many benefits and thanks sir👍🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @adamcasey3365
    @adamcasey3365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thank you, Mark! Super grateful for this. For those who are metric, it's impossible to get the exact weights that Mark has recommended. You can either go slightly lighter with a 6kg, 8kg and 10kg, or, go a little bit heavier with a 8kg, 10kg, 12kg. I'm still tossing up which way to go!

    • @chriswatts9227
      @chriswatts9227 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you ever decide, I'm in the same position thinking from other's comments that 'll go lighter.

  • @Raiden6277
    @Raiden6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get what you mean about starting light. I’m just doing basic double stick drills with my ironwood bastons, and I have to slowly build up my wrists and forearms. After a while, I can feel fatigue in my hands and wrists.

  • @dutro44
    @dutro44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @olyrhys8724
    @olyrhys8724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thank you Mark - this is great. My girlfriend and I are on Amazon now shopping for our first clubs!
    I know we’re sounding like a broken record but if you plan to do programming - we’re 100% down and it sounds like a lot of others are also!

    • @olyrhys8724
      @olyrhys8724 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Bobby_Rib - both the club training and the relationship going superbly, thank you for asking.
      I am currently doing Mark’s heavy clubs program having done the mill squat program with three weights.
      How about you?

    • @olyrhys8724
      @olyrhys8724 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bobby_Rib that sounds really interesting - how is that training going for you?

    • @olyrhys8724
      @olyrhys8724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bobby_Rib enjoy - don’t forget to stand all the way up, squeeze the glutes and breathe behind the shield.

  • @jamestully156
    @jamestully156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos I recently got a 15 pounder partly because I've been watching your videos for a few weeks and wanted to add something to my kettlebell and bodyweight workout. So far I think I'm doing well with it.
    Are there any benefits to using two clubs of the same weight together? I don't think I've seen you use two but I see it a lot on TH-cam.

  • @filippov_psy
    @filippov_psy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thank you! =)

  • @Lardfist0
    @Lardfist0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. I just subscribed. Should I start with a 10lb club? I don't think they were available at the time you made this video.

  • @satchy7922
    @satchy7922 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @61lastchild
    @61lastchild 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really opened up.my shoulders with a 15 lb club. Butnow dealing with the elbow...some sort of impingement.

  • @greggyaeger5809
    @greggyaeger5809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started with the 25. Damn. Doing all 2 hand movements. Great video. I always get so much out of your content. ✌🏻

  • @AutoExpertJC
    @AutoExpertJC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hey Mark - on the intermediate weight clubs you mentioned (which don't exist): Here in Australia where I live we use the metric system, obviously, and they sell clubs typically in 2kg increments. Of particular relevance to your point: 8kg club = 17.6 pounds (which is nearly halfway between 15lb and 20lb) and 10kg club = 22lb (kinda halfway from 20lb to 25lb). I suppose there's a local retailer here who would ship to the USA if someone really wanted those intermediate weights. Thanks for your daily uploads during COVID - really useful.

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what company?

    • @Bunnykisses1000
      @Bunnykisses1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mark Wildman . White Lion Athletics in Winnipeg Canada sells the metric versions in both steel club and mace.

    • @Thelgren00
      @Thelgren00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Canadian here, i can verify the quality of White Lion Athletics steel clubs. I purchased the 12kg club earlier this year and its awesome

    • @justinward7189
      @justinward7189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is why I love my Adex Clubs.. 3.5 to 25 pounds! With their new fractional 1.25 pound plates it gives me 18 different weight changes! Looking forward to getting their attachment to take it all the way to 45 pounds.. that will be a beast! Look forward too it.

    • @scottengh1175
      @scottengh1175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coach Wildman, ordered the Adex. At least 4 weeks out. Looking at buying a couple rubber coated Clubbell. They're out of 15 lb. Thinking about buying a 10# to warm up for the Adex. Then, maybe a 5 or 20. Or another 10. You mentioned Adex club was not much lever when lighter.

  • @zackavshalomov6048
    @zackavshalomov6048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another affordable hack to microload and bridge the gap between clubs ive found to work beautifully is using 5lb ankle weights, you can strap them on securely and adjust whether you want 1-5 additional pounds!

  • @curtisprejean1525
    @curtisprejean1525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info in all your videos - but finding a club workout - ie / which exercises - reps - duration - would be sweet if you provided a basic format for a club wod

  • @davidknapp244
    @davidknapp244 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big strong dude lol just got my 15# club....... I'm glad I listened it's heavy!!!

  • @markhuru
    @markhuru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stumbled on your channel, have you any golfers using these exercises? I could see this great for golf strength training

  • @MalcolmVanAtta
    @MalcolmVanAtta ปีที่แล้ว

    2:05 great point

  • @mattbryant6187
    @mattbryant6187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, what do you think about Adex adjustable clubs? Although I don't think I can get them here in the UK yet.

  • @LawrenceSchmettererMDFACS
    @LawrenceSchmettererMDFACS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mark,
    Do you have now, or will you be producing programs to progress from beginner, with the proper sequencing of heavy club exercises? I would pay for this instruction.

  • @MichaelStreet
    @MichaelStreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Programs please 🙏🏾. Take my 💸

  • @wboeren1
    @wboeren1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought 6 kg, 10 kg and 15 kg. But i traded the 15 back to 12 kg because it felt to heavy during rotation. Biggest problems for me are elbow pain, pain in the hands and blisters. It is fun training though.

  • @seangentry5764
    @seangentry5764 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's true I felt so many more muscle working using the clubs

  • @chrismessy
    @chrismessy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the best light impact kind of work outs? I use to be at the gym every day about 4 years ago but had a kid and got into very labor intensive work. Trying to get at it I noticed my joints and injuries I've gotten in latest years have really taken its toll. I've seen resistance bands but would like to know about other options

  • @marcmmclellan
    @marcmmclellan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Err on lower weight if you have injuries. It is not where you start but where you finish…

  • @jonhart9063
    @jonhart9063 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been training with maces for a couple years now, and am considering adding clubs to my gym. I've run through pretty much all of Mark's mace content over that time, step by step. I'm currently doing single-arm mace work with a 15lb mace (e.g. single-arm 360s, circles, coin flips, millls, etc) and two handed work with a 20 and 25 lb mace (25lb 360s are still a lot, I'm not doing those for minutes at a time, but I can do them for reps with good technique.
    Given that, would you suggest skipping directly to a 20lb club - my assumption is that the mace has a longer lever-arm so given that I can do 15lb mace work, a 15 lb club would be "easier". Or am I missing the point that I'm having to start over with club skills so should start at 15 anyway?
    I'm also considering the Adex adjustable club, which answers my question a different way anyway!
    Love your channel, Mark, it's transformed my own fitness, as well as teaching me enough to pass that onto my friends - I've now got 3 buddies who join me weekly in the garage gym to toss maces and kettlebells around.

  • @jsremaley
    @jsremaley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this video for those of us who you inspired to get started with clubs! Along the same lines, what weights would you recommend for starting out with steel maces? Thanks!

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10, 15.

    • @jsremaley
      @jsremaley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkWildman Thanks!!!

  • @DanielRomero-dn5db
    @DanielRomero-dn5db 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi! I found out your channel just at the beginning of the pandemic. I always saw some clubs on a couple gyms i went to and never understood the point, you changed my mind and i bought some as soon as possible. I think the ones that i bought are full iron so i have to be carefull around the house. Got a pair of 2.5k and 5k since as far as i understood was a good progression, and also got the 10k one for double arm at the end. So on my little knowledge of weighlift i came up with a little workout with the club excercises you have on your club list, i had like 0% strenght on my hands and at the beginning i ended up with my hands so sore, but almost 2 months in and im finally getting the hang of it. Im 90% sure i havent figured out the way you do programs, i think in some videos you talk about 1 move for 10min and that should be a workout, i dont know if that means 6 movements for 60min or really just 1 per day, i get a lot of questions on how do you cover everything or how you do kettlebell one day and club another so... it would be awesome if you could help us showing us at least a very basic workout day (or week) just to have an idea of the kind of regime you are suggesting, and also apply it, obviously. Thanks by the way for the awesome knowledge you share with us!

    • @torynichols2413
      @torynichols2413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In his live streams he has mentioned that he is coming out with some pretty lengthy programming. He just did a live stream yesterday and it was pretty good

    • @DanielRomero-dn5db
      @DanielRomero-dn5db 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@torynichols2413 oh! well i didnt know about the livestreams, i usually cant see stuff like that, i mostly "hear" and take peaks of the videos while working. But if hes already on it, then is justa a matter of time, pretty cool!

  • @chaslewis3334
    @chaslewis3334 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How well does macebell work translate to clubs? I’ve been using maces for years and currently use rogue 16kg with ease. What weight would I start with?

  • @johnmute6865
    @johnmute6865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark I got a 6kg club to start (13.22pounds). Its simple solid cast iron as I could not get the American ones to the UK. I am generally sweaty so in order to make my grip better as I am beginning to get into clubbells, I applied tennis grip tape to it. Can you tell me if that is a bad idea?
    EDIT: Yeap realised its a bad idea! Got blisters in my thumb and index.

  • @barneyboyle6933
    @barneyboyle6933 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My instinct was to start with a 15lb club. It's funny how I've been into different kinds of fitness off and on for about 20 years and never had a single injury. I always listen to what more experienced athletes recommend and make my decisions after that. You do that long enough and you can assess the risk of just about anything without needing to consult with an expert. It's never hurts to get a second opinion though

  • @donbypiso486
    @donbypiso486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, actually difficult to get the clubs. Which size should the 15 pound one have? Is 16 inch OK? The ones from Marc look longer...

  • @typingthe
    @typingthe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bought a 45 off the start... wish I would have seen this before lol.
    I'm 295lb judo player.

  • @ij4307
    @ij4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark. Great videos as always. I have my first 2 handed club. What are the first exercises I need to learn please?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Squat
      Side to side swing
      Dead clean
      Step back lunge
      Shield cast
      Swing clean
      Circle

    • @ij4307
      @ij4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkWildman Marvellous. Thank you sir. Much obliged

  • @guyblew1733
    @guyblew1733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which should 1 start with? if they have never worked with a club or mace. I have been thinking of just getting Adex mace to start with.

  • @jacobhorton5800
    @jacobhorton5800 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have recently been doing a lot of work with a steel mace and have been loving it, great change of pace from traditional barbell stuff. I can move a 20 pound mace around relatively well, would you still recommend starting with the 15 pound club?

    • @a8lg6p
      @a8lg6p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 15 lb mace and a 15 lb club. I feel like I could definitely go heaver for 360s/10 to 2s with the mace. But single-arm exercises with the club get tiring pretty fast.

  • @teainastorm4357
    @teainastorm4357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these recommendations for single arm or two arm?

  • @hubriswonk
    @hubriswonk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lift, train martial arts, run and generally pretty strong guy, but I had to start with a 10 pounder!

  • @jorge-4526
    @jorge-4526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, Mark, would you consider a pair of 6kgs, a single 10kg and a single 12kg the best "buy once, cry once" weight options?
    I'm asking because I plan to buy them all at once, due to shipping costs to my country being very absurd if I only buy a single heavy item at once.

  • @benvtucker15
    @benvtucker15 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a 12kg mace and can do your 4
    Minute shield cast exercise. Maybe the 20lb I could start with?

  • @smurug85
    @smurug85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mark, show us and explain about Indian mace exercises, What is the difference with Indian maces?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indian maces or Indian clubs?

  • @nandobreiter4075
    @nandobreiter4075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I first bought an 8kg club (which is 17.6 pounds by the way - so there is a midpoint between 15 and 20 pounds available) and bought a 6kg (13.2 pounds) this week for the Alternating 180 degree Pullover. That turned out to be a good move because I could not do the alternating pullover with correct form with the 8 kg. Today, I did the alternating pullover with the 6 kg for 10 minutes straight, 1 minute per side, and I could concentrate on the form rather than struggling with the weight. That said, it was still a substantial workout. A few more minutes and I would have been at failure on the left side.
    I also did inside and outside circles left and right with the 8 kg for 10 minutes.
    What I'm wondering now is how to track / program this sequence. What do people who know what they are doing use for this?

    • @SpindlyScoudrel
      @SpindlyScoudrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was about to buy 8kgs...think I'll go 6!

    • @schroedder5090
      @schroedder5090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems like you can help me a little bit with my decision whether i should buy a 6kg or 8kg.
      I have been kettlebelling for a few weeks now (16kg get-up and 24kg swing). Now i am thinking about buying clubbells, but i am not sure if i should start with 6 or 8 (dont wanna buy both because i am a poor student). I made martial arts for 4 years and have some good basic muscles i would say but unknown to such movements.
      Hope you can give me an insight or your opinion

    • @ryusuikarate
      @ryusuikarate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@schroedder5090 Maybe I can give you some insight. I bought a 6kg steel mace recently and use that as a stand-in for heavy clubs too (just choke up on the handle). My previous workout consisted of 300 two-handed swings and 30 get-ups with a 32kg kettlebell and 50 snatches and 50 clean and presses with a 24kg bell. Additionally I am training in Bagua (6 years) and Karate (18 years). I found 6kg on the mace to be enough.
      I also didn't want to buy multiple new things so I chose the mace instead of the club. I think it offers more variety. The only thing you have to do is grip the mace in the middle of the handle and you have a fully functional club. Easy. Maybe I'll buy a club in the future but right now the mace is definitely the better choice for me.

  • @Emorysr
    @Emorysr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6 DOF. Explanation I can understand! 😆

  • @luismar2901
    @luismar2901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, in Europe clubs are not so easy to find, impossible at the moment with the pandemic, almost like kettle bells, how can clubs be replaced by dumbbells?

  • @roteguard
    @roteguard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got interested in club bell training because of the functional strength aspects. Why are they so expensive though?!?!?

  • @DoubtingThomasTestsEverything
    @DoubtingThomasTestsEverything หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the 2 handed club course and the adex adjustable club. I trained with a group of professional arm wrestlers for 2+ years and realized that I need functional strength and have been working on that. 25 lb club is where I am at and I think 30 lbs would be too much. To be fair I've been swinging a weighted sledge hammer on my own.
    Just for a frame of reference I have arm wrestled guys who powerlifting over 600 and claimed to lift over 800 lbs and crushed them slowly. I thought I would be able to do more for this workout. I was wrong lol.
    I wonder how well Mark would do arm wrestling. Haha I think he would destroy most local pros in his weight class.

  • @kevinzalac8945
    @kevinzalac8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started with a 20lb. That was dumb. Moved down to a 15 before then going up and getting heavy.
    It travels much much different than a mace. Or a kb. Shield casts and mills really sucked until I could rehearse with the 15lb a bunch

  • @crossfithammerschmiede
    @crossfithammerschmiede 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also just bought an 8kg club (I'm in Germany) still waiting for delivery but I made a 4kg one with a threaded nipple (filled with sand) with a metal clamp at the top. It's ugly, but it's great to practice with before the real thing comes.
    Also, there's no way you didn't check the Thesaurus before saying "behoove"!
    Awesome content as always, thank you.

    • @tobe3504
      @tobe3504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you buy it and is it rubber coated? The options to buy clubs, especially rubber coated ones, seem to be quite limited in Germany.

    • @crossfithammerschmiede
      @crossfithammerschmiede 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobe3504 I bought it from Sport-Thieme on Amazon. It doesn't state if it's rubber-coated, but that wasn't an issue as we have rubber flooring.

    • @tobe3504
      @tobe3504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crossfithammerschmiede Thanks for the reply. Have to keep looking then because apart from the floor issue, I remember Mark mentioning in an earlier video that he recommends the rubber coating for beginners to lessen the risk of a bad injury in case you clock yourself in the head by mistake.

    • @crossfithammerschmiede
      @crossfithammerschmiede 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tobe3504 I'll write back here and let you know when I receive it (if it's rubberised or not) That said, the fear of hitting ones' self is probably a good motivation to stay with a weight that we can handle until we get some proficiency!

  • @DaLifta
    @DaLifta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15 it is. 👍

  • @ahmadelshbasy3222
    @ahmadelshbasy3222 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark , only available is 6 kg (13.2 lbs) and 8 kg (17.6 lbs) and i wanna start , what do you recommend ?

  • @etilrets
    @etilrets 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mark,
    Thank you for this useful information.
    Does Indian wooden club suffice this as we don't have metal / rubber coated club here.
    Please guide

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They suffice fine if they are in the weight range. My friend uses heavy custom wood clubs, but I try to stick to commercially available equipment

    • @etilrets
      @etilrets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Wildman Thank you Mark 🙏

  • @adamroden8790
    @adamroden8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video Mark, your videos got me into clubs and off my ass - quick question, I've been working with a 10kg (22lb) for about six months now single handed, and I reckon I've got at least six months more on it before I move up to the 12kg, but what heavier weight would you recommend as a two handed accompini... accompiniam... partner? I want to add some two handed work to augment and assist. Cheers!

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      id use that same weight and move to a time under tension protocol.

  • @cosimomarino6885
    @cosimomarino6885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Adex!?

  • @tnCEO2023
    @tnCEO2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have a video comparing heavy club vs maces?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i do not but that's a great idea

  • @andyspacey
    @andyspacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been clubbing since 1998. I have a youtube channel only 50 subs but that's ok. I live what I teach and practice what I preach

  • @ciarancosgrave
    @ciarancosgrave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a 12 Kg (26lb) club bell on a whim with very little knowledge of what club bells are all about. I was regularly working out with 24kg and 32kg (52 & 70lb) kettlebells so I figured that 12kg was nothing. I was wrong. So wrong. 12Kg is heavier than you think in that format!

  • @jianzlive
    @jianzlive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Essential movements I should learn for clubs?

  • @CVW74
    @CVW74 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    budget being a problem I am unsure if I should purchase a macebell or club to start? I have some shoulder, tennis elbow issues. I read that the Macebells would be a good buy for such problems?
    Any advice is appreciated. Thank you and great videos!

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Adex Wildman adjustable club.

  • @PassThePierogi
    @PassThePierogi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have any tips, if I were to get one of these, on what to do if I have a low ceiling?

    • @bto330
      @bto330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take it to a park?

  • @anandhameil
    @anandhameil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Marc, what's your opinion on wooden clubs?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome if they have weight. I don’t teach light (fancy) swinging but it’s admirable

    • @anandhameil
      @anandhameil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MarkWildman They make the same weights and heavy ones in India. Quite expensive though. Haven't seen anyone using clubs in my part of the country. Used to be common before. We have lost our way of exercising here. Huge fan of your channel and your no nonsense approach.

  • @powertrip1050
    @powertrip1050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    a late heads up for @markwildman: Gorilla Sports lists 8kg club (17.6lbs)....

  • @MrRolyat98
    @MrRolyat98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never used clubbells before. No shoulder issues. Bench press (for whatever it’s worth as a measure of upper body strength) is high intermediate. Should I still start with a 15 lb bell or should I play it safe and get a 10 lber?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a 15 should probably be fine or get an ADEX adjustable club and get all the weights.

  • @kevinhickey2589
    @kevinhickey2589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can ohp 100kg have good sholder mobility, I bought a 6kg/12lbs club... Coming back from a shoulder injury

  • @DerekVerLee
    @DerekVerLee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it worth getting a club if I have a low ceiling? knuckle height eg I can standing press a kettle bell but not a dumbbell. would this limit what movements I could use it for?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ;you can do them all except hammer swing

  • @Balenc3
    @Balenc3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you recommend for steel mace training?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      10 to 15 lbs. I mostly use maces for long continuous sets.

  • @rafelingd
    @rafelingd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I started with 4 kg because I just want to use it to fix my right shoulder and flat feet, figured more volume would be the way to go.

    • @taquinas85
      @taquinas85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For flat feet train and be barefooted most of the time. When walking let the your weight be handled by the front of the foot like when sprinting and lighter on the heel. Do calf lifts to strengthen your arches.

  • @michaelfavata2720
    @michaelfavata2720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Mark, any experience/opinion on the Adex club? It's pricey but it's adjustable so it takes the place of 10, 15, 20 and 25 lb clubs.

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never touched one so I don’t have an opinion per se. I would prefer if you could change weight but maintain the length of the lever which the adex does bot do from what I’ve seen. Changing the weight and the length at the same time seems.... like it could make the weight jumps much bigger than 5 lbs

    • @michaelfavata2720
      @michaelfavata2720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkWildman interesting. I'm not sure how long each of the individual plates are but the length changes do look significant enough that that's worth thinking about. Thank you.

  • @salimosman8188
    @salimosman8188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I understood the equation..i feel delighted n embarrassed at the same time...😋

  • @openscapevideos
    @openscapevideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark Wildman - A suggestion for a super-valuable WILDMAN PRODUCT for an important and monied demographic - that needs some guided workouts that expand on the teaching from your other videos. I'd be glad to expand - but I would really like to pre-order the DVDs...
    I really enjoyed your live-meeting on May 15th. I am 67 and grew up on a farm - then proceeded after a long time at University to get involved in software tech, then sales, then running product marketing for years at a multi-national (Siemens). Among other jobs, I ran executive briefings across the US and led most briefings for most major customer CXOs on technology and business solutions for our Fortune 1000 prospect and customers.
    Here is a market niche that you are perfectly fit to develop because of an unusual combination of obvious physical skills, natural projection of competence, easy empathy, and excellently simple, yet detailed explanations. The niche is one you can pull from your existing capabilities (okay, perhaps a little extra work might be valuable to your product, but you will know if that’s the case) - the most prosperous and needy demographic - 50-90. I have many friends who are in the best general shape of their lives after a 35-45 year career of being tied to job performance that made a balance of life, exercise, health, work, and family that left no time being spent on health and physical capability. That was certainly the case for me. I weighed 315 (at 6’) most of my life after 35. I retired I changed my lifestyle completely at 60 (to support an ill wife) and lost 115 pounds while I working on a small farm I bought to give my wife a living environment she was really hoping for in our retirement. Baling hay at 67 is a rush!
    The wealthiest and neediest demographic for functional strength is the 50 plus (up to 90) demographic. Since my own experience shows that certain care must be taken to make sure that older folks won’t say, “SCREW THIS” immediately after start-up, your discussion about how to get people to come back after initial sessions, was very informative - albeit not discussed in as much detail as you could deliver to help older folks in a successful approach to kettlebell exercise to health…. I think you could really help a lot of people with a Senior focused special set of videos and focus on general strength and endurance -- I would certainly buy the DVD set!!!
    I would be glad to help you in any way I can, I just appreciate how much I learned by watching your videos - and if I can help you, let me know. But consider setting up a market focus on seniors - since it could absolutely use all the ret of your content with some senior adjustments” based on condition and personal objectives.
    Ralph Riley
    ralphsriley@gmail.com

  • @Bob06460
    @Bob06460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I bought a 15 pounder some years back, opened the package, tried to lift it out horizontally and immediately thought that Rmax mistakenly sent me a heavier weight. You cannot equate clubbell weight to dumbbell weight.

    • @joshd2861
      @joshd2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. My 25 lbs club feels easily like it's over 40 lbs if you were to pick it up and not know.

    • @stephendocherty3502
      @stephendocherty3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yip done the same with my 8kg club

    • @oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682
      @oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first set I ever got were long handled 11 pounders. I thought it had to be at least 20. It was 11 spot on according to the bathroom. I'm a pretty stout guy and I had to be quite careful and slow with them to prevent hurting myself. It's one of the reasons I get kind of annoyed by him saying men SHOULD START with 15s. It just sounds like a good way for a less than cautious person to hurt themselves badly.

    • @kennyfinger8306
      @kennyfinger8306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I actually weighed it to be sure. Feels way heavier than 15.

  • @bobcooter
    @bobcooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If one happened to be poor and will likely be remaining so for the foreseeable future, would fashioning a weapon with a stick and striking component at the top suffice for these movements or would that be too different of a dynamic?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Explain more? Striking a target? I have so many ideas

    • @bobcooter
      @bobcooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkWildman Well I have this half length broomstick that I play around with, mostly seeing how much speed and power I can get in a short jab like snap from behind the ear to about 4/5 feet infront of me. I can feel it doing some magic on my wrist and elbow. If I attached something heavy to the end would it be suitable for these flowing type movements you are making or would the weight being at the end be kind of cheating?

  • @George-ls9ce
    @George-ls9ce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I need/benefit a lot from clubs if I have started a made bell workout?

    • @MarkWildman
      @MarkWildman  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clubs benefit everyone. I think everyone should train them