I absolutely believe that Van Gogh could "see" the math he was trying to paint, even if he didn't understand it. This reminds me so much of the experience of Jason Pagett, author of the book Struck by Genius. He was severely injured in an attack and was left with a traumatic brain injury. As he healed, he began to literally "see" the lines of geometry in everyday objects, spaces and movement. He started drawing what he saw as a way to deal with it and his drawings are really beautiful.
and, I think it's entirely possible that some people with various brain anomalies see all kinds of things that most of us can't see. Phenomena that has been called "woo woo" and is now quite measurable...energy fields around living things, including people for example. Thank you for sharing Jason Padgett's name. I love serendipitous information like this that leads me to people and places that I believe show us the world is so much more than what we experience with our 5 senses.
Absolutely. Being able to “see” and “experience” movement is essential for artists portraying nature or man. Obviously a great artist also doesn’t capture what he record, but in different ways interpret and improves on the experience. Really, the math of movement in nature and the math behind great design are quite synonymous. Likely because man has evolved in nature and intuitively recognizes nature’s “math” as comforting, pleasing, activating, energizing, and even turmoiling or hostile, dependent on the “pattern” that triggers experiences that for many are part of the collective unconscious. But for the scientist and the artist are, in different ways, more well understood things. I doubt Gogh understood the flow of liquids and gasses on a scientific or mathematical level, but was aware of how this flow appears as patterns.
When I first saw this panting as a young child, I thought “of course, he can see what’s really there”. Ever after, I could sort-of see it, too. It didn’t look like craziness or fantasy to me, I thought he was capturing an actual phenomenon through his long watching and study. That’s what art is, seeing the world through a unique perspective, and recording it on the artist’s own creative vocabulary. We all see these swirls in storms and water, he just put it all together with the night skies we see, in a beautiful, sensitive way.
the background on them is really moving. i did a deep dive last year around the circumstances and tragectory of van gogh's life and his brother's absolute commitment and support of him was so touching. the spring blossoms painting (aqua background, twisty branches and little white flowers, another iconic one) was painted with joy when vincent got the news his brother would be welcoming a son into the world. he was so friggin happy for him and the painting was a gift, but also symbolic of new beginnings and hope and such. smh. it's just... i still tear up. and all of this, and starry night, happened in the same facility. they checked him in there to be sort of a sabbatical.
And the fact his sister-in-law made it her life’s mission to translate all the letters to English and get his artwork in galleries too makes it even more touching I think.
I had at least one relative that was, alive who was originally, from France. It was generally thought by people during the 19th century that, he was actually painting an actual weather event. More specifically that he was painting an unusually windy, windy night.
I wouldn't be surprised. There was an odd storm several years ago during the night that had the sky actually roiling-- it looked like the surface of a different planet. Constant swirling movement of the clouds. It was bizarre, like something from a sci-fi movie.
@@leavingitblank9363 YOU ARE BANG ON!!! V Gogh witnessed the event he painted. A little research will tell you what was going on back then. ElectricUniverse.
From the brush, to colors, the canvas, texture, soft, rough, everything comes into form with art. Motion, fast, slow, and expression. The way you imagine an artwork in your mind, to what you use to create it. I totally believe there is science within it as well
" Now i understand. What you tried to say to me and how you suffered for your sanity and how you tried ro set them free. They did not listen. They did not know how. Perhaps they'll listen now."
I know you'll understand this. When I was 18, I searched the skies for ufos and extraterrestrials constantly. One night an orange ball of fire appeared miles away over the city centre 12.30am. After 10 minutes of observing it do nothing but hover me and my gf walked to my home less than 2 minutes away and when I got to my back gate. This ufo, ball of light was above me, no sound, no propulsion method, no air displacement. It was though 100% intelligent and aware. Truth is stranger than fiction, and I'm sure big things are on the horizon. Bad and good.
@shawntailor5485 "Portraits hung in empty halls Frame-less heads on nameless walls With eyes that watch the world and can't forget" I like that one but Colors changing hue "Morning fields of amber grain Weathered faces lined in pain Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand"
Unless you have actually seen it firsthand there’s no way to describe this painting other than space in motion. It’s amazing! What is mind boggling is scientists finally recognizing this after so many decades.
Van Gogh had seen the illustrations of astrophysic and mathematic work of one of his friends that he wanted to capture in the painting. He came very close, for me it is perfect enough, he himself was very disappointed in the result of his interpretation. I don't think anybody else is. When I was a kid, I thought his work was " off " . When incidentally I got into southern France, to my astonishment I saw that how he had painted that part of the world looked like and felt like exactly like I saw and felt it in real life. Maybe like a Dutchman me and him from a gray and rainy country thrown smack right into the middle of a country side drowning into an ocean of bright hot sunshine.
This will seem like an odd comment, has anyone else seen the Dr Who episode about Vincent Van Gogh? Its called "Vincent and the Doctor, It'll make you cry. Its beautiful. I taught my fiance about Van Gogh and he taught me about Dr Who, a while later we saw this episode. Kismet 😊
Never heard of it, but thanks, I'll check it out. You'd probably like the book, "The Giving Tree." I love the deep meaning of the story. Blessings to you. ❤❤❤
Thank you. How wonderfully interesting. My windshield sunshade is Starry Night. Also, one of my favorite songs to sing... Vincent, and, one of the best Matt Smith episodes of Dr Who is when he and Amy return to Vincent's time. 💙🌻💙
Oh, I love that episode! The Doctor’s “Life is a pile of good things and bad things” line always makes me tear up, and I have used that line a few times in real life.
My astronomy and physics professor in 2000-01 would probably like a word. As I’m guessing his colleagues of decades past might. Just because you’ve recently heard of it doesn’t make it new, it’s just new to you. 🙄This has been studied for ages. As my professor and others have said, though, it could be Van Gogh, like most of us artists, just observed the world around him and interpreted it in his own style. Anyone who has watched a windswept starry night with wispy clouds and mist could see shapes and halos that this is to represent. Oftentimes artists apply certain brushstroke patterns so many times as a style choice. For circular shapes frequently the more circles you draw or paint the more rounded and closer to perfect they become.
@@smokyquartz5817 Ah, the generic autobot response about parties; which has nothing to do with the subject. Normally I just discredit any comment that contains this phrase as a bot, but since it’s the first time it’s been commented to me I’ll respond; I have a minute. First off the physics theory is not mine; good luck finding the origin and telling them since it’s been decades. If you know techniques of how to create art you know how to create art. Since I draw and paint I do. How about you? But sure it’s just his “mania” imagining a starry night and it’s just coincidence it looks like a stylized interpretation of a night sky and it’s just a coincidence he used painting techniques. 🙄 No one really knows what he was thinking, probably he didn’t either. The halos around the stars and moon could have been what they look like through bottles or glass or even just too much alcohol since he had a drinking problem too.
@LisaMarieFord It's worse than I thought. Lol. But the internet thanks you for the angry essay. I have Type 1 bipolar disorder the same as he did and have studied his life and career. What's depicted is mixed state/mania bordering on psychosis. While it threatens your life, it can show you amazing things. Vincent was a beautiful man.
@@smokyquartz5817 What angry essay? You initiated a conversation by replying, but you lead with a negative remark. No reason for you to be angry about anything. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were not a bot…. “You must be fun at parties” is often used by bots. I see it on others’ comments hundreds of times a week. Obviously you are not as you responded once I did. Conversation. You are welcome to appreciate the painting how you like and think of how he MIGHT have been feeling when creating it. I too am allowed to have my own perspectives and opinions. Other people are allowed to have different perspectives and opinions than either of us as well. Neither you nor I know, nor will anyone except maybe the artist himself know what he was thinking, what he was seeing, and what he intended. He used the tools of the trade and the techniques. That is definite. I know people who have similar issues and are very precise on certain things being done a certain way. It could be possible he circled the brush strokes so many times to not only create a better circle but to achieve a certain amount of strokes. I do some pointed things in my own work. It could be it was just relaxing to him. Have you ever held a bottle or glass up and looked through it to a light? That could have inspired the halo effect. Mist and clouds can also create a halo effect. I do know some who do calculations for things as well, some when they are in a hypermanic state. That’s where that theory came from; from people studying the piece and his life. My original comment noted that that physics theory is not a new one; because it’s not. He was definitely inspired by real life and the night sky, since it is called “Starry Night” and the history around it explains it was of the view to the East from his window. This doesn’t negate his work or process whatsoever. In fact, personally since his works are not my favorite but this is one of my favorites of his, looking at how he made it makes it more interesting. Looking at a painting and thinking “that’s neat” of the overall picture is just fine. Looking at the painting and thinking “that’s neat” in reference to how brush strokes were created or an effect was done is also just fine. You don’t have to be curious about it, but you shouldn’t negate other people being curious themselves. Art is subjective.
@LisaMarieFord My mother was a working artist in oil Realism. It got us by for twenty years until paralysis took her ability but not her appreciation. She was an enormous talent in my opinion, but it's natural for a daughter to believe so regardless. I think you mean hypomanic, that's the low grade form that makes patients euphoric and productive.
ok, it makes sense why i can zone out and stare at boiling water and its soothing. i like to turn on the electric kettle and just watch it when it boils. same with lava lamps. i play sims and one of the painting that randomly comes up is starry a night (or a sims version) and i ALWAYS keep that one instead of sell it. its my favorite painting in real life.
I may be cheesy but I absolutely LOVE to look at the “Starry Night “ painting while listening to Don McLean’s amazingly beautiful song titled Starry Starry Night in memory of Van Gogh ♥️ It’s an amazing experience in my opinion
I painted a painting with a green field, and trees, with swirling skies about 50 years ago myself. I did nto have Van Gogh's Starry Night in mind when I did my painting. I have always closely looked at weather, clouds, and the skies. However, Vincent painted masterpieces. I love this video and Van Gogh. So interesting.
@@saraxdouglas8577 most geniuses dont fit in and spend most time alone . It's not necessarily what is wanted it's just hard to communicate with intelligent people let alone the majority that cant pour pee out of a boot ,with instructions on the heal .
So either Van Gogh could see the unseen OR he was crying. It is my opinion thay Van Gogh was crying and painted the blurs caught in his eyelashes. You will get identical swirls if you get a little teary-eyed and gaze at the stars. You will also get identical views of people and places and things as he painted them if you cry. Does astrophysics cover his non-star-based works or does it only work for that specific view and quit explaining what we see when Vincent's perspective comes down to Earth? He was crying.
Not 'incorporated' - 'copied' . He painted what he saw in the sky. This news article is to have the masses believe it is a work of imagination and NOT a witnessed event - which is exactly what it was. The people of the time knew this was the case! Here, over 100yrs later an attempt to control the narrative - sound familiar?? ⚡⚡ElectricUniverse⚡⚡
Van Gogh was painting what he saw out the window at the asylum he spent a year in after cutting off his ear. There isn't much to do in an asylum (especially in those days) except look out the window. imo they are reading way too much into this.
This is more about the scientist saying this nonsense, and his ego. If he try's hard enough next he'll answer all of earths mysteries by analyzing artwork. Confirmation bias is funny that way. He should know better.
Starry, Starry night. Paint your pallette blue and grey. Look out on a summer's day with eyes that know the darkness in my soul. Shadows on the hills Sketch the trees and the daffodils Catch the breeze and the winter chills In colors on the snowy linen land... Don McLean. My favorite song
In other words, we discovered that he accurately drew what he's observed .... didn't need 6 mins to explain that. And it's also the basis of painting landscapes ...
Last year when i was in rehab i recreated this painting during a spooky pumkin contest but i turned the wind into ghosts and made the background all black it was so sick. I got 2nd place!
Can we all give major credit to the Young lady doing the interviewing, her quality of questions were top notch! I don’t even like art (in this form) but still found this interview very interesting. Both did great. I like how they explained possible similarities between science and art.
No. She does the annoying news anchor bit where they treat anything artistic or scientific as if it’s so complicated nobody can understand it and says “explain it like I’m 5”. That’s the defunding of American education at work.
It should not be surprising that artists notice visible things. That’s their job. 🎉I’m an artist and I studied math in college, and a bit of graduate school. Both of the disciplines are interested in understanding how things work.
When I set started art school, Design 101, I made an assignment with some swirling black ink lines on a white background. I thought it looked really cool. I turned it in and my teacher "it's Starry Night, fail.". I had to go look up Starry Night because I'd never heard of it at the time.
It is fiction. For example, pop culture commonly portrays that Vincent was not famous in his lifetime. No, he received alot of attention, and due to interest from his peers, was preparing to be shown at a major art museum when he died.
I'm in my 60's and remember as a kindergarten, being told not to draw random circles and swirls. Otherwise, it was a sun...a house and a roof. Maybe a flower.
Ah, here we go: “Hidden turbulence in van Gogh’s ‘The Starry Night’” by Yinxiang Ma, Wanting Cheng, Shidi Huang, François G. Schmitt, Xin Lin and Yongxiang Huang, 17 September 2024, Physics of Fluids. DOI: 10.1063/5.0213627
I've got that painting on a tapestry, a mouse pad, a shirt, a dress, shoes and coffee mug. I was gonna do my bed, my bathroom and my kitchen with it, but it's too expensive.
I moved from Chicago to the West of Ireland. For the first time I’ve seen the night sky unhindered by light pollution and that was the first time I saw what van Gough was painting in Starry Night.
they're saying he understood it. but maybe he also saw it?? What if in his eyes he saw light bending? the wind physically twisting light maybe even. etc.
And people say that things like the davinci code is impossible. These artists were labeled as crazy and insane. Especially by their government, it makes sense if these intelligent artists hid clues in their work
A lot of artists can see proportions, tints, hues and the science in the shapes and real life that we don't see, just like geniuses just know things. But art is also moving, done with love, care and the very being of the artist. Van Goghs paintings are calming and lovely masterpieces.
So many people already knew this, just say it’s new to some. Van Gogh was ahead of his time like many artist. Not the only painting that answer questions.
This art is good dont get me wrong but how are we not making news stories about ancient India art pieces...those are wonders of art physics and human life itself
For 10s of 1000s of years all humans had to watch was the night sky. And they did, they studied it for generations. They understood more about our solar system than we will EVER give them credit for. We actually think we are more knowledgeable than they were, but we cannot even see with our own eyes what they did.
Come on guys, am I the only person in the world who has looked at the sky reflected in orderly twirls and eddies of a stream or river, and familiar with Van Gogh's work, thought ah ha - he saw it too? Of course it depends on the wind and the current and the rocks, but eventually you find this very kind of reflection of moon etc. Honestly, I don't leave my tent or warm car to watch stars in the river at night, but even on an overcast day you get the lights and darks and variation of the swirls that can appear very much like Starry Night. Where did Van Gogh live? Was there water? of course. Was there somewhere water that flowed down a slope or among rocks creating swirls and eddies? Was sitting by the river looking at nature a nice pasttime for an artist? And those who look at nature, who hasn't noticed the riverbed waves looking like the repeating ribbons of clouds looking like the bottom sides of wave forms, leaving marks just like the sand patterns in the water, noting the similarity of characteristics??
He found a pattern and he ran with it. Yes, he might’ve noticed it in nature. I just think it’s a natural organic way of painting and I’m so grateful for his beautiful art.
Some have thought that the foxglove (digitalis) that Van Gogh was taking for epilepsy might have influenced his paintings. Van Gogh also did an indoor painting with a light bulb having "ripples" around it ("ripples" isn't exact, but it's obvious in the painting). And, there was also that fascinating painting of the very "wavy" house that was beautiful.
It is my opinion thay Van Gogh was crying and painted the blurs caught in his eyelashes. The ripples and swirls being astrophysical processes do absolutely quit explaining what we see when Vincent's perspective comes down to Earth, as those ripples and swirls do persist. If he was crying, it explains it all.
Loving your convo! Deep deep thoughts, searching & respect. But photographs capture only a 2-D portion of his genius. I had the gift of viewing "Starry Night" in Houston Texas from 2 feet away. Under glass, but within reach. Mind blowing! As emotionally gorgeous as I hoped. Motion, subtle colors, intensity. But MORE. Traveling the sky, Van Gogh was Sculpting In Paint. This piece is in 3-D. There are soft, barely there strokes. And deep plowing gouges half an inch deep! I will add a 4th dimension, Time. This unique enraptured spirit, lonely in life, has found immortality and profound worldwide love through his Art. Some 130 years later and we still yearn to understand. Thank you, Vincent.
Having had to put to sea because of a Mistral (to keep the ship from running aground), I'd have to say you're making a random guess...and wrong. If you'd experienced one, you'd know it does not resemble the painting in any way.
My absolute favorite artist of all time, Vincent was the GOAT. I fell in love with his art when I was 5 years old. You'd be surprised how many creatives innately understand quantum physics. I'm one of them. But I never understood algebra, lol!
Shocking that an intuitive artist is tuned into something much deeper that what the average human can comprehend (Hence his turbulent emotional state. Always feeling others people’s overwhelm, upset or happiness)
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I absolutely believe that Van Gogh could "see" the math he was trying to paint, even if he didn't understand it. This reminds me so much of the experience of Jason Pagett, author of the book Struck by Genius. He was severely injured in an attack and was left with a traumatic brain injury. As he healed, he began to literally "see" the lines of geometry in everyday objects, spaces and movement. He started drawing what he saw as a way to deal with it and his drawings are really beautiful.
I have something like that in my head, mostly with faces and anatomy. People I have told did not understand.
This.
Will check it out!
Wow, thanks! I immediately googled Jason Pagett, his work is amazing! I'm going to order his book, thanks for the tip! 😊
and, I think it's entirely possible that some people with various brain anomalies see all kinds of things that most of us can't see. Phenomena that has been called "woo woo" and is now quite measurable...energy fields around living things, including people for example. Thank you for sharing Jason Padgett's name. I love serendipitous information like this that leads me to people and places that I believe show us the world is so much more than what we experience with our 5 senses.
Brilliant minds see things in pure forms and can translate them. This painting makes me feel calm when I look at it.
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THIS ISN'T NEW! It was studied and demonstrated in 2004 by physicists in the UNAM university in Mexico. Look it up!
Its so annoying. They want us to believe that everyone was so dum before us.
@@SpaceRanger187clearly, we’re dumber now than ever before 😂😂😂
Came here just to make sure I’m not the only one who remembers this discovery already having been made.
Wow, you're right! A 2006 article from Nature covered this.
Well I was in high school in 2004 and only learning what was in a book so it’s nice to see now that I have control over my own content that I watch
It’s the art of “observing “
Absolutely. Being able to “see” and “experience” movement is essential for artists portraying nature or man. Obviously a great artist also doesn’t capture what he record, but in different ways interpret and improves on the experience. Really, the math of movement in nature and the math behind great design are quite synonymous. Likely because man has evolved in nature and intuitively recognizes nature’s “math” as comforting, pleasing, activating, energizing, and even turmoiling or hostile, dependent on the “pattern” that triggers experiences that for many are part of the collective unconscious. But for the scientist and the artist are, in different ways, more well understood things.
I doubt Gogh understood the flow of liquids and gasses on a scientific or mathematical level, but was aware of how this flow appears as patterns.
I agree! 💯
The human in deep observance is the human ascending.
@waketp420 and it’s clear that, currently, some people think they have to figure that out….again. 🤪🤪🤪😱. 😂😂😂.
How did this nothing burger of a comment get over a hundred likes
There are no coincidences. That guy is a genius and only now science is catching up to what he portrayed through his art.
Well, of course there are coincidences. If two guys happen to show up to work in their office wearing red neckties, does it "mean" something?
There most certainly are coincidences.
@@c.a.t.732 Yes, everything has meaning...the spiritual meaning for the word coincidence is synchronicity.
@@KathiOsborn Coincidence means something that happens by chance, It bears no relationship to the concept of synchronicity.
@@c.a.t.732 Well it's all in how each perceives it, many don't believe in coincidences.
This piece of art has been my favorite since I was a little girl ❤
Same!!
It looks like a little girl painted it.
When I first saw this panting as a young child, I thought “of course, he can see what’s really there”. Ever after, I could sort-of see it, too. It didn’t look like craziness or fantasy to me, I thought he was capturing an actual phenomenon through his long watching and study. That’s what art is, seeing the world through a unique perspective, and recording it on the artist’s own creative vocabulary. We all see these swirls in storms and water, he just put it all together with the night skies we see, in a beautiful, sensitive way.
I also was a kid when I saw. I was like 5.. I was innocent back then, I saw the world differently..
Wow, beautifully said!
Vincent is one of my favorite artists. The book of his letters to his brother called Dear Theo will touch your soul deeply. USA
the background on them is really moving. i did a deep dive last year around the circumstances and tragectory of van gogh's life and his brother's absolute commitment and support of him was so touching. the spring blossoms painting (aqua background, twisty branches and little white flowers, another iconic one) was painted with joy when vincent got the news his brother would be welcoming a son into the world. he was so friggin happy for him and the painting was a gift, but also symbolic of new beginnings and hope and such. smh. it's just... i still tear up. and all of this, and starry night, happened in the same facility. they checked him in there to be sort of a sabbatical.
And the fact his sister-in-law made it her life’s mission to translate all the letters to English and get his artwork in galleries too makes it even more touching I think.
@@lambtoon Absolutely. Thank you so much for this.
His letters to Gauging are also wonderful. The man had a remarkable mind and a beautiful soul.
I hate the "self-correcting" aspect I of Kindle. I typed Gaugin!
He had a beautiful soul🥰❤️
I had at least one relative that was, alive who was originally, from France. It was generally thought by people during the 19th century that, he was actually painting an actual weather event. More specifically that he was painting an unusually windy, windy night.
I wouldn't be surprised. There was an odd storm several years ago during the night that had the sky actually roiling-- it looked like the surface of a different planet. Constant swirling movement of the clouds. It was bizarre, like something from a sci-fi movie.
You still don’t see the wind. He just deduced it must look like that.
@@TheBooban the wind moves the clouds, and clouds can swirl
@@TheBooban You bought the story. It was a weather event. YOU can find out what it was like back then by doing a little research of your own.
@@leavingitblank9363 YOU ARE BANG ON!!! V Gogh witnessed the event he painted. A little research will tell you what was going on back then. ElectricUniverse.
Doesn't surprise me at all that VG saw the science. He is my favorite artist and I feel something deep in my soul when I look at his paintings
Speaking as an artist at heart, it validates my point when I explain to my peers that there is science in my art.
From the brush, to colors, the canvas, texture, soft, rough, everything comes into form with art. Motion, fast, slow, and expression. The way you imagine an artwork in your mind, to what you use to create it. I totally believe there is science within it as well
I mean, there is science in everything.
" Now i understand.
What you tried to say to me and how you suffered for your sanity
and how you tried ro set them free.
They did not listen. They did not know how.
Perhaps they'll listen now."
I know you'll understand this.
When I was 18, I searched the skies for ufos and extraterrestrials constantly. One night an orange ball of fire appeared miles away over the city centre 12.30am. After 10 minutes of observing it do nothing but hover me and my gf walked to my home less than 2 minutes away and when I got to my back gate. This ufo, ball of light was above me, no sound, no propulsion method, no air displacement.
It was though 100% intelligent and aware.
Truth is stranger than fiction, and I'm sure big things are on the horizon. Bad and good.
Starry starry night ,echos painted on the wall...
Where/who is this quote from?
@@DolphinsPlayingInAquaMoonlight these are lyrics from Don McLean's song Vincent.
@shawntailor5485 "Portraits hung in empty halls
Frame-less heads on nameless walls
With eyes that watch the world and can't forget"
I like that one but Colors changing hue
"Morning fields of amber grain
Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand"
Unless you have actually seen it firsthand there’s no way to describe this painting other than space in motion.
It’s amazing!
What is mind boggling is scientists finally recognizing this after so many decades.
Yes.
They smoke the greens. They saw.
Each person seeing it for the first time, tries to express how they feel and what they understand.
Ooor.. when he looked at the night sky he saw everything dancing and swaying and was inspired, giving his heart and excitement free reign.
That’s what I always thought.
Van Gogh had seen the illustrations of astrophysic and mathematic work of one of his friends that he wanted to capture in the painting. He came very close, for me it is perfect enough, he himself was very disappointed in the result of his interpretation. I don't think anybody else is.
When I was a kid, I thought his work was " off " . When incidentally I got into southern France, to my astonishment I saw that how he had painted that part of the world looked like and felt like exactly like I saw and felt it in real life.
Maybe like a Dutchman me and him from a gray and rainy country thrown smack right into the middle of a country side drowning into an ocean of bright hot sunshine.
Excellent interview and interviewee… thank you so much for the great job on this information!
This will seem like an odd comment, has anyone else seen the Dr Who episode about Vincent Van Gogh? Its called "Vincent and the Doctor, It'll make you cry. Its beautiful. I taught my fiance about Van Gogh and he taught me about Dr Who, a while later we saw this episode. Kismet 😊
Never heard of it, but thanks, I'll check it out. You'd probably like the book, "The Giving Tree." I love the deep meaning of the story. Blessings to you. ❤❤❤
Seen the scene and it's so beautiful
That is my all time favorite Dr Who episode. It was so beautiful.
@@poetaetae is it on any streaming?
I love that episode. It made me falling love with Van Gogh and his paintings.
My most favorite painting ever. I dream of seeing the original painting in person one day. Van Gough was a genius!
Thank you. How wonderfully interesting. My windshield sunshade is Starry Night. Also, one of my favorite songs to sing... Vincent, and, one of the best Matt Smith episodes of Dr Who is when he and Amy return to Vincent's time. 💙🌻💙
Oh I love that episode!
. Me too. That is my favorite episode of Dr Who.
Oh, I love that episode! The Doctor’s “Life is a pile of good things and bad things” line always makes me tear up, and I have used that line a few times in real life.
@@JolynBowler that episode makes me cry! So beautiful!
My astronomy and physics professor in 2000-01 would probably like a word. As I’m guessing his colleagues of decades past might. Just because you’ve recently heard of it doesn’t make it new, it’s just new to you. 🙄This has been studied for ages. As my professor and others have said, though, it could be Van Gogh, like most of us artists, just observed the world around him and interpreted it in his own style. Anyone who has watched a windswept starry night with wispy clouds and mist could see shapes and halos that this is to represent. Oftentimes artists apply certain brushstroke patterns so many times as a style choice. For circular shapes frequently the more circles you draw or paint the more rounded and closer to perfect they become.
You must be fun at parties. It's his mania making things just burn with activity. If you know you know.
@@smokyquartz5817 Ah, the generic autobot response about parties; which has nothing to do with the subject. Normally I just discredit any comment that contains this phrase as a bot, but since it’s the first time it’s been commented to me I’ll respond; I have a minute.
First off the physics theory is not mine; good luck finding the origin and telling them since it’s been decades.
If you know techniques of how to create art you know how to create art. Since I draw and paint I do. How about you?
But sure it’s just his “mania” imagining a starry night and it’s just coincidence it looks like a stylized interpretation of a night sky and it’s just a coincidence he used painting techniques. 🙄 No one really knows what he was thinking, probably he didn’t either. The halos around the stars and moon could have been what they look like through bottles or glass or even just too much alcohol since he had a drinking problem too.
@LisaMarieFord It's worse than I thought. Lol. But the internet thanks you for the angry essay. I have Type 1 bipolar disorder the same as he did and have studied his life and career. What's depicted is mixed state/mania bordering on psychosis. While it threatens your life, it can show you amazing things. Vincent was a beautiful man.
@@smokyquartz5817 What angry essay? You initiated a conversation by replying, but you lead with a negative remark. No reason for you to be angry about anything. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were not a bot…. “You must be fun at parties” is often used by bots. I see it on others’ comments hundreds of times a week. Obviously you are not as you responded once I did. Conversation.
You are welcome to appreciate the painting how you like and think of how he MIGHT have been feeling when creating it.
I too am allowed to have my own perspectives and opinions.
Other people are allowed to have different perspectives and opinions than either of us as well.
Neither you nor I know, nor will anyone except maybe the artist himself know what he was thinking, what he was seeing, and what he intended.
He used the tools of the trade and the techniques. That is definite.
I know people who have similar issues and are very precise on certain things being done a certain way. It could be possible he circled the brush strokes so many times to not only create a better circle but to achieve a certain amount of strokes. I do some pointed things in my own work. It could be it was just relaxing to him. Have you ever held a bottle or glass up and looked through it to a light? That could have inspired the halo effect. Mist and clouds can also create a halo effect. I do know some who do calculations for things as well, some when they are in a hypermanic state. That’s where that theory came from; from people studying the piece and his life. My original comment noted that that physics theory is not a new one; because it’s not.
He was definitely inspired by real life and the night sky, since it is called “Starry Night” and the history around it explains it was of the view to the East from his window.
This doesn’t negate his work or process whatsoever. In fact, personally since his works are not my favorite but this is one of my favorites of his, looking at how he made it makes it more interesting.
Looking at a painting and thinking “that’s neat” of the overall picture is just fine.
Looking at the painting and thinking “that’s neat” in reference to how brush strokes were created or an effect was done is also just fine.
You don’t have to be curious about it, but you shouldn’t negate other people being curious themselves.
Art is subjective.
@LisaMarieFord My mother was a working artist in oil Realism. It got us by for twenty years until paralysis took her ability but not her appreciation. She was an enormous talent in my opinion, but it's natural for a daughter to believe so regardless. I think you mean hypomanic, that's the low grade form that makes patients euphoric and productive.
I saw! I noticed that when i was a kid bro. Thats why i feel in love with his work at such a young age. 5yrs old. Born 1989. 100yrs later..
ok, it makes sense why i can zone out and stare at boiling water and its soothing. i like to turn on the electric kettle and just watch it when it boils. same with lava lamps. i play sims and one of the painting that randomly comes up is starry a night (or a sims version) and i ALWAYS keep that one instead of sell it. its my favorite painting in real life.
Thank you for covering this!
I may be cheesy but I absolutely LOVE to look at the “Starry Night “ painting while listening to Don McLean’s amazingly beautiful song titled Starry Starry Night in memory of Van Gogh ♥️ It’s an amazing experience in my opinion
Not cheesy at all, my friend. Just the opposite
I painted a painting with a green field, and trees, with swirling skies about 50 years ago myself. I did nto have Van Gogh's Starry Night in mind when I did my painting. I have always closely looked at weather, clouds, and the skies. However, Vincent painted masterpieces. I love this video and Van Gogh. So interesting.
I have multiple copies of Starry Night in my bedroom. It just makes me feel so comfortable.
Those artists were way ahead of their time
Van Gogh studied everything of interest to him very deeply. A truly intuitive and sensitive artist. ❤
✨Thank You, Van Gogh✨Your art is eternal and your memory is a blessing 🕯
I have been thinking this about his work and this painting in particular for decades. Glad others have finally caught on!
It's not over my head......The artist was a genius... unfortunately he also suffered mentally.💙☮️🙏🌌
@@saraxdouglas8577 most geniuses dont fit in and spend most time alone . It's not necessarily what is wanted it's just hard to communicate with intelligent people let alone the majority that cant pour pee out of a boot ,with instructions on the heal .
Lovely painting 🖼️
Always a favorite ✨⚡️
How is this a new study? I learned about Van Gogh's understanding of turbulent flow over 10 years ago.
So either Van Gogh could see the unseen OR he was crying.
It is my opinion thay Van Gogh was crying and painted the blurs caught in his eyelashes. You will get identical swirls if you get a little teary-eyed and gaze at the stars.
You will also get identical views of people and places and things as he painted them if you cry.
Does astrophysics cover his non-star-based works or does it only work for that specific view and quit explaining what we see when Vincent's perspective comes down to Earth?
He was crying.
I see the swirls in the sky too. Just look up when there are clouds and its windy
Exactly
He was painting galaxies, not clouds ‼️
Van Gogh Was A Genius.
God Bless 💗🙏
Sooo... an artist observed the world around him and incorporated that into his paintings. Remarkable.
Not 'incorporated' - 'copied' . He painted what he saw in the sky. This news article is to have the masses believe it is a work of imagination and NOT a witnessed event - which is exactly what it was. The people of the time knew this was the case! Here, over 100yrs later an attempt to control the narrative - sound familiar?? ⚡⚡ElectricUniverse⚡⚡
Van Gogh was painting what he saw out the window at the asylum he spent a year in after cutting off his ear. There isn't much to do in an asylum (especially in those days) except look out the window. imo they are reading way too much into this.
@@tystkanin9996 I share your interpretation, but I'll try not to keep that from letting me appreciate the coincidence.
This is more about the scientist saying this nonsense, and his ego. If he try's hard enough next he'll answer all of earths mysteries by analyzing artwork. Confirmation bias is funny that way. He should know better.
Observation is not commonplace, it's a gift. Not everyone is observant about what they see.
Starry, Starry night. Paint your pallette blue and grey.
Look out on a summer's day with eyes that know the darkness in my soul.
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land... Don McLean.
My favorite song
Van Gogh had cataracts -- He painted what he could see, the way he saw it. The colors were what he mixed to match what he was able to see.
In other words, we discovered that he accurately drew what he's observed .... didn't need 6 mins to explain that. And it's also the basis of painting landscapes ...
Personally love this painting…and all his art…Vincent Van Gogh is one of the greatest artists of all time! 💎
Wow !! Absolutely amazing. I love Van Gogh's magical paintings. Wonderful Art. Thank you. ❤❤❤
I think this lady is underestimating van Gogh's intelligence and emotional connection to nature and reality.!
_Paint your palette blue and grey._
Last year when i was in rehab i recreated this painting during a spooky pumkin contest but i turned the wind into ghosts and made the background all black it was so sick. I got 2nd place!
NICE
🤘
Can we all give major credit to the Young lady doing the interviewing, her quality of questions were top notch! I don’t even like art (in this form) but still found this interview very interesting. Both did great. I like how they explained possible similarities between science and art.
No. She does the annoying news anchor bit where they treat anything artistic or scientific as if it’s so complicated nobody can understand it and says “explain it like I’m 5”. That’s the defunding of American education at work.
It should not be surprising that artists notice visible things. That’s their job. 🎉I’m an artist and I studied math in college, and a bit of graduate school. Both of the disciplines are interested in understanding how things work.
When I set started art school, Design 101, I made an assignment with some swirling black ink lines on a white background. I thought it looked really cool. I turned it in and my teacher "it's Starry Night, fail.". I had to go look up Starry Night because I'd never heard of it at the time.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence. It has a well thought process to capture science and art together.
So, the Dr. Who episode “Vincent and the Doctor” is more than just purely fiction.
It is fiction. For example, pop culture commonly portrays that Vincent was not famous in his lifetime. No, he received alot of attention, and due to interest from his peers, was preparing to be shown at a major art museum when he died.
I'm reincarnated Vincent Van Goghs Birthday is the day before mine ❤@@Seschal
Vincent Van Gogh's starry night is my favorite painting i did a replica of starry night in pastels
I loved this! Its one of my favorite paintings ❤ The mathematics concept makes me think of early DeVinci
I'm in my 60's and remember as a kindergarten, being told not to draw random circles and swirls. Otherwise, it was a sun...a house and a roof. Maybe a flower.
Vincent Van Gogh was obviously a very Universally Connected individual in his turbulent mind!!
My daughter’s favorite painting. Love it myself.
A link to the actual study in the description or the comments would be a nice addition to this video.
Ah, here we go:
“Hidden turbulence in van Gogh’s ‘The Starry Night’” by Yinxiang Ma, Wanting Cheng, Shidi Huang, François G. Schmitt, Xin Lin and Yongxiang Huang, 17 September 2024, Physics of Fluids.
DOI: 10.1063/5.0213627
I've got that painting on a tapestry, a mouse pad, a shirt, a dress, shoes and coffee mug. I was gonna do my bed, my bathroom and my kitchen with it, but it's too expensive.
Van Gogh was a superb draftsman as well as painter. A draftsman understands mathematics in a way that is scientifically observable.
I moved from Chicago to the West of Ireland. For the first time I’ve seen the night sky unhindered by light pollution and that was the first time I saw what van Gough was painting in Starry Night.
He intuited it all
This has always been my favorite painting. Van Gogh was always trying to show a connection between the heavens and people.
The true talent of an artist. Paying attention to the world around themselves.
Equivalent to a musical genius who plays/ played songs on the piano, without reading the music notes.
Excellent story on a well known art masterpiece.
they're saying he understood it. but maybe he also saw it?? What if in his eyes he saw light bending? the wind physically twisting light maybe even. etc.
Artists are the ultimate 'observers'. No modern distractions back then. Plenty of time to study clouds.
Some people have multiple talents. Van Gogh was a genius to paint like he did.
And people say that things like the davinci code is impossible. These artists were labeled as crazy and insane. Especially by their government, it makes sense if these intelligent artists hid clues in their work
I feel this painting deeply
A lot of artists can see proportions, tints, hues and the science in the shapes and real life that we don't see, just like geniuses just know things.
But art is also moving, done with love, care and the very being of the artist.
Van Goghs paintings are calming and lovely masterpieces.
So many people already knew this, just say it’s new to some. Van Gogh was ahead of his time like many artist. Not the only painting that answer questions.
My favorite painting..
This art is good dont get me wrong but how are we not making news stories about ancient India art pieces...those are wonders of art physics and human life itself
For 10s of 1000s of years all humans had to watch was the night sky. And they did, they studied it for generations. They understood more about our solar system than we will EVER give them credit for. We actually think we are more knowledgeable than they were, but we cannot even see with our own eyes what they did.
connected to source when you tap into what you love and what your spiritual job is . ty
This is probably the reason why Neil de Grasse Tyson really admire Starry Night by Van Gogh.
Magnificent home.
Music is perfect.
🌿💛💛💛🌿
My favorite painting
😱 Who would have thought Van Gogh would look at the stars while painting them! 🎨
I think it's less the stars and moreso the atmospheric turbulence that is impressive to have captured the essence of
Who would have thought this went over your head and was not what your diatribe was about?
@@oo0Spyder0oohee hee hee hee heeeee!
@@oo0Spyder0oomaybe look up the word diatribe before you use it.
Come on guys, am I the only person in the world who has looked at the sky reflected in orderly twirls and eddies of a stream or river, and familiar with Van Gogh's work, thought ah ha - he saw it too? Of course it depends on the wind and the current and the rocks, but eventually you find this very kind of reflection of moon etc. Honestly, I don't leave my tent or warm car to watch stars in the river at night, but even on an overcast day you get the lights and darks and variation of the swirls that can appear very much like Starry Night. Where did Van Gogh live? Was there water? of course. Was there somewhere water that flowed down a slope or among rocks creating swirls and eddies? Was sitting by the river looking at nature a nice pasttime for an artist? And those who look at nature, who hasn't noticed the riverbed waves looking like the repeating ribbons of clouds looking like the bottom sides of wave forms, leaving marks just like the sand patterns in the water, noting the similarity of characteristics??
He found a pattern and he ran with it. Yes, he might’ve noticed it in nature. I just think it’s a natural organic way of painting and I’m so grateful for his beautiful art.
He wasnt just a painter
The intersection between art and a science is a magical place!
Some have thought that the foxglove (digitalis) that Van Gogh was taking for epilepsy might have influenced his paintings.
Van Gogh also did an indoor painting with a light bulb having "ripples" around it ("ripples" isn't exact, but it's obvious in the painting). And, there was also that fascinating painting of the very "wavy" house that was beautiful.
It is my opinion thay Van Gogh was crying and painted the blurs caught in his eyelashes.
The ripples and swirls being astrophysical processes do absolutely quit explaining what we see when Vincent's perspective comes down to Earth, as those ripples and swirls do persist.
If he was crying, it explains it all.
Many of us noticed this years and years ago. I saw an illustration of Earth showing Oceans flow. It was beautiful and looked just like these swirls.
Wow. Van Gogh 👊🏼
I have such an appreciation for Van Gogh work… so this was fun to watch 🙂
Van Gough's life seems like a mess, but history reveals his genius.
Thanks for explaining this such amazing information!
Loving your convo! Deep deep thoughts, searching & respect.
But photographs capture only a 2-D portion of his genius.
I had the gift of viewing "Starry Night" in Houston Texas from 2 feet away. Under glass, but within reach. Mind blowing!
As emotionally gorgeous as I hoped. Motion, subtle colors, intensity. But MORE.
Traveling the sky, Van Gogh was Sculpting In Paint.
This piece is in 3-D. There are soft, barely there strokes. And deep plowing gouges half an inch deep!
I will add a 4th dimension, Time.
This unique enraptured spirit, lonely in life, has found immortality and profound worldwide love through his Art.
Some 130 years later and we still yearn to understand.
Thank you, Vincent.
Thank you!
The more i understand my love for Van Gogh
As someone who studied astronomy, that was definitely under my head.
It is called the" Mistral" wind...in the South of France
Having had to put to sea because of a Mistral (to keep the ship from running aground), I'd have to say you're making a random guess...and wrong. If you'd experienced one, you'd know it does not resemble the painting in any way.
My absolute favorite artist of all time, Vincent was the GOAT. I fell in love with his art when I was 5 years old. You'd be surprised how many creatives innately understand quantum physics. I'm one of them. But I never understood algebra, lol!
A visionary.
Shocking that an intuitive artist is tuned into something much deeper that what the average human can comprehend
(Hence his turbulent emotional state. Always feeling others people’s overwhelm, upset or happiness)
It's cloud illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all
-- Joni Mitchell
Beautiful
Great interview 😊!