Given that they changed the type of the CPU they would probably need to reinstall of the OS since binaries won’t be compatible, if he also swapped SSDs tho this would be possible
You can buy all the other parts, but the third party motherboards have to be designed to be compatible with the framework ecosystem, and this video shows the first motherboard of this kind. So short answer no, but theoretically yes.
Their marketplace allows you to buy all the parts individually, so in theory you could purchase all the parts except the mainboard. With that said though you'll spend more doing that than just buying one with a board from Intel or AMD already installed.
haha why didn't they boot it... If it doesn't boot, what's the point, everyone has already seen you swapping the motherboard. I guess it's one of those "just to get more publicity"
the point of frameworks laptops is to be able to replace the parts as easy as posible. also he explained that he was showing just that. what's the point of turning it on if you can't tell if there is Risk-V or x86 there. ubuntu looks the same on both
He first would need to switch the SSD too as this CPU swap won't just work with the same os install and then he would need to not only boot it up but show some kind of hardware info as it's not obvious what running under the hood
@@Minecraftzocker135 The SSD is screwed to the mainboard so he would have swapped it while swapping the board. My guess is that he didn't boot it because a) he was running out of time and b) he wasn't confident that he didn't forget/fumble some connector. Nothing more embarassing than trying to turn it on and then noticing the battery connector is loose.
What a clown opinion, you do realise x86 operating systems aren't gonna boot up in risc v right? He just showed how easy it is to swap the hardware, you've gotta install the OS for the architecture or swap SSDs to boot up
I've always wondered why they made Type-C to Type-C expensive and complicated instead of creating a good connection... Modern people have probably forgotten what RJ45 is and that several PCs can form a local network for free... And if we talk about repairability and convenience... Where are the hot-swap switches? It makes more sense to use a screen... But making a keyboard out of it is difficult... You need to write code for it... But even so, external split keyboards with a graphic tablet in the middle look more interesting anyway. _))
@@amstan3896 Bro ... he is correct😅 ... let's do some math ... if a person work 8h/day * 7 days earning $7/h it will total/month = 1699, if the cable is $10, the cable represents 0.58% of you month ... really cheap in your reality ... in my country the average/h is $3 (no talking about taxes, it is above 100%) ... doing the math it's represents 5.58% of month total WITHOUT TAX, with tax it become 11.9% ... but looking for other perspectives, the proposal of USB is became an Universal Serial Bus ... but every usb-c cable (for example) have different functions, you need buy one cable for otg, other for mhl, other for fast charge, etc. So ... after show this aspects in consideration we will need buy one cable/function with this cost, this is literally not cheap and really complicated 😢
@@amstan3896 USB-C at 240W looks ridiculous... Why not make it 1000W right away? It seems like you guys have a whole sect there. I won't bother you anymore. I’d rather get a mini PC or a regular PC with separate power for SFP+. For the phone and magnetic cable, it will be enough.
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this guy is really good, being the CEO, doing the talk, and doing the 5 minute demonstration all in the same time. he's a real geek for sure XD
Yeah everything is great until you contact frame.work/support. Trust me, you haven't and you will hate their support.
Neat, though wish they would have booted up the laptop.
Given that they changed the type of the CPU they would probably need to reinstall of the OS since binaries won’t be compatible, if he also swapped SSDs tho this would be possible
People actually chanted that after the talk and he did turn it on back stage 😁
I'll have to see if there is a photo or video somewhere of it running.
you probably wouldn't be able to do anything without installing a risc-v compiled operating system
@@deeplykind3754 if kernel Linux has wrote is Java... 😂😂😂
given that the storage slot is on the main board, this would work perfectly fine if the OS is already installed on both storage devices.
Planned obsolescence must end. I want Framework to support other companies to do the same in the field of open source laptops
we need to vote with our wallets
Actually amazing!
That's very impressive.
Okay. Hands down, my next laptop WILL be a Framework.
What a chad demo 💪🤓💪
riscv❤❤
Is there option to buy framework laptop without motherboard? so that anyone could choose other companies motherboards.
You can buy all the other parts, but the third party motherboards have to be designed to be compatible with the framework ecosystem, and this video shows the first motherboard of this kind. So short answer no, but theoretically yes.
Their marketplace allows you to buy all the parts individually, so in theory you could purchase all the parts except the mainboard. With that said though you'll spend more doing that than just buying one with a board from Intel or AMD already installed.
I hope these work with Debian or any other generic distribution.
they do.
Apple is the opposite of this !!
Awesome, when can I have one?
soon, probably
Cool!😃
Outstanding!!
Wait its a thing already ?
yes.
Wish Fedora was in it...
The laptops are too expensive, need a cheaper version of framwork for Asia region!
1699 for a laptop, I would rather buy a Macbook Air!
Raspberry Pi powered framework anyone?
counter proposal: snapdragon powered framework
@@PASRC i doubt if snapdragon will allow that also you would lose upgradeable ram
Not powerful enough
Plot Twist: It didn't boot
No bootup? 🙃
Apparently he did right after the video ends because people were chanting for him to boot it.
Linus tech s this
Should have used the LTT screwdriver. Missed opportunity :/
More impressive that he did it all with what's included in the box though
Even better, it's the Framework screwdriver provided with every purchase.
haha why didn't they boot it... If it doesn't boot, what's the point, everyone has already seen you swapping the motherboard.
I guess it's one of those "just to get more publicity"
the point of frameworks laptops is to be able to replace the parts as easy as posible. also he explained that he was showing just that. what's the point of turning it on if you can't tell if there is Risk-V or x86 there. ubuntu looks the same on both
He first would need to switch the SSD too as this CPU swap won't just work with the same os install and then he would need to not only boot it up but show some kind of hardware info as it's not obvious what running under the hood
They booted it up later.
@@Minecraftzocker135 The SSD is screwed to the mainboard so he would have swapped it while swapping the board. My guess is that he didn't boot it because a) he was running out of time and b) he wasn't confident that he didn't forget/fumble some connector. Nothing more embarassing than trying to turn it on and then noticing the battery connector is loose.
What a clown opinion, you do realise x86 operating systems aren't gonna boot up in risc v right? He just showed how easy it is to swap the hardware, you've gotta install the OS for the architecture or swap SSDs to boot up
I don't like snaps.
not the point of this talk.
I've always wondered why they made Type-C to Type-C expensive and complicated instead of creating a good connection... Modern people have probably forgotten what RJ45 is and that several PCs can form a local network for free... And if we talk about repairability and convenience... Where are the hot-swap switches? It makes more sense to use a screen... But making a keyboard out of it is difficult... You need to write code for it... But even so, external split keyboards with a graphic tablet in the middle look more interesting anyway. _))
Type-C to Type-C or any expansion cards means the wears are always on the card itself, so you won't need to worry about the lifespan of the ports.
@@xlion hello duckduck
mac DC jack USB-C connector
Fixing USB-C ports...
@@Empty_Vima womp womp usb c to usb c requires micro soldering, thats why its expensve
@@amstan3896
Bro ... he is correct😅 ... let's do some math ... if a person work 8h/day * 7 days earning $7/h it will total/month = 1699, if the cable is $10, the cable represents 0.58% of you month ... really cheap in your reality ... in my country the average/h is $3 (no talking about taxes, it is above 100%) ... doing the math it's represents 5.58% of month total WITHOUT TAX, with tax it become 11.9% ... but looking for other perspectives, the proposal of USB is became an Universal Serial Bus ... but every usb-c cable (for example) have different functions, you need buy one cable for otg, other for mhl, other for fast charge, etc. So ... after show this aspects in consideration we will need buy one cable/function with this cost, this is literally not cheap and really complicated 😢
@@amstan3896 USB-C at 240W looks ridiculous... Why not make it 1000W right away? It seems like you guys have a whole sect there. I won't bother you anymore. I’d rather get a mini PC or a regular PC with separate power for SFP+. For the phone and magnetic cable, it will be enough.
it does not boot LOL
He did right after the video ends because the audience was asking