New LEGO Steam Trains For 2022? Why we Need More Steam Trains!
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- New LEGO Stream Trains For 2022? Why we Need More Steam Trains! New LEGO City Style stuff would be awesome to see from LEGO but we NEED more LEGO Train parts bigger and smaller wheels, connecting rods, there's so much LEGO could do so much! Trains don't get the same love as LEGO cars!
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Instead of a dedicated Steam Train theme, LEGO should just have a dedicated "Trains" theme. Why are trains apart of the City theme anyway? With a dedicated Trains theme you could do steam trains ( european style, wild west style, etc ) as well as trains from different eras ( bring back the Santa Fe Super Chief! ). But, I agree with selling engines and cars separately ( also train themed buildings like passenger/cargo stations, roundhouses, etc ). Honestly, LEGO could approach the Train theme like Speed Champions. Each engine/car could be based on a real vehicle.
They used to have one.
Unfortunately the any train that operated under BNSF's heritage (Santa Fe, Burlington Northern, etc.) wont be coming back. But LEGO use to have "My Own Train". It's not around now because it didn't sell well.
I agree
@@BattleshipOrion probably because it was super expensive. I would have loved to have the complete Santa Fe train, but I wasn't allowed because of the price. I was allowed to buy one steam locomotive (black version), one hopper car, one tanker car, one stake car, one passenger car (the green one) and the (red) caboose. A while later when I did have the money to buy another train again this line was discontinued already.
@@marktegrotenhuis BNSF 'tax' for you. If you play train sim, you'll know exactly why they where expensive.
What you've done here is replicated the LEGO Group's foundational product on a larger scale - you've created a system. By separating track, locomotives and carriages, each purchase adds more and more scope to what you can make, thus making every new one more appealing and adding value to every older one - and since the barrier to entry would be lower, that cycle would begin far more easily than it otherwise might. There are fundamental strengths to the concept in terms of both business sense and brand alignment from the LEGO Group's own perspective; let's hope that they're thinking along similar lines!
Exactly! not to mention the potential for new elements and track options!
So... basically what Hornby do...
@@JintySteam1 but with more quality (for what it is, i mean its legos.) and cheaper prices.
@@TheCandywho I will actually be starting a company next year. The plan is to sell custom Lego or GoBrick trains in 1/35th scale representing primarily American equipment from where I originate. You can find my Allegheny under Potential 1/35th scale trains, in addition to my Baldwin Disc Driver and my Santa Fe 3463 Hudson on Eurobricks. Both locomotives are 11-12 studs wide. As for track, I highly recommend Trixbrix to get the job done
An absolute genius
Going for a Smokey Joe, like Hornby did! :)
I agree, as a train enthusiast I would love to see more Steam locomotives and rolling stock! I love the early 2000 9v Build Your Own Train sets and maybe see something like that back with what you are talking about. I also LOVE the idea of an 18+ steam locomotive, no matter what it is I would 100% buy!
Hell we can't even get some N scale and HO steam models, let alone Lego.
Same here man
I’m a train enthusiast too
I’ve been always thinking about LEGO doing a theme only for steam trains and this is video gives some good reasons why it must happen
Lego was having "My own train" theme in 2001 and 2002. Take a look ;)
Maybe Lego needs to separate its trains into City Trains and L-gauge railroading.
@@Lego_oldschool no
@@terrylong8894 exactly
@@Lego_oldschool I was going to post that after I watched the video on my tv and though YEP someone else must also be into lego back in 00's when they did that HORRIBLE steamline attempt with color packs... UGHHH
Oh my gosh why can’t lego just do what we want. I NEED this in my life!!!
Nah. Lego are more interested in making dull grey star wars sets and hocus Harry Potter pocus stuff over and over
because its a company and they care about profit and not customers. if theyd care about customers they wouldnt decrease in quality whilst heavily increasing prices, let alone the constant changes in ongoing themes or even worse the new road system
@@MikoooCW yep if were a promoting as a CEO I will give people what they want but I can't because I'm not white also I felt Bad for the founder his company he created become greedy and evil
Just imagine lego making big boy one of largest steam locomotives ever on America
just buy non lego brick trains
thanks to lego ignoring train fans there are plenty of companies selling those
You know, a steam loco wouldn't have to be unpowered. A small Power Functions motor and a basic geartrain powering one of the axles will fit within the gauge of LEGO train track, and the remaining drive wheels can be driven via connecting rods. You're not forced to use the train motor blocks.
They could add a smaler or more modular train motor block so you could make diferent locomotives winout wasting excesive space in motoring. In fat if memory doesnt fail me, the standar motor block is a few studs too short to aceept a x-6-x (or x-3-x) wheel set. That could be changed by making it a shorter one powering just one axle and gain a lot of modularity.
I think you’ve said everything that Lego should hear. There is such an incredible train fan base out there, that if they we’re to create what you’ve shown, they would sell out. Individual steam loco’s, rolling stock, and stations would be incredible! Plus the extra long track pieces and different angle curves would be nice too.
And that fan base is being served by BlueBrixx and its absolutely massive selection of highly detailed train models already.
Imagine if they also licensed some of the current operating steam locomotives and trains from 1st class, private, and non-profit railroads and museums. As someone from America, having a Lego Big Boy, Challenger, Daylight, Northern, J-class, S3, A-class, and even "The Living Legend" FEF-3 would be amazing!
A big boy would be great, so would a SD70 or even a reprisal of the GP38.
now that I can get behind, Big Boy ould especially be popular as its back in steam.
BlueBrixx has a Bigboy ~1400pcs 65€
If I could buy a Lego Flying Scotsman then I would in a heartbeat
Along those lines, there could be different sub-themes: Britain with British locomotives, America with American locomotives, Germany with German locomotives, etc
I was obsessed with lego trains as a kid but since they were so hard to get at the time I just gave up on it, I would love to see a whole theme built around trains
same dude, this video has been planned for so long!
Planned to steal from other TH-camrs
@@warragulbogan Tell that to the other TH-camrs that he “stole” from who are agreeing with him in these very comments. STFU.
Or just make the LEGO City train sets more often and make them more realistic and grimey looking. While it is true that modern train liveries are more vibrant, the city trains having brighter colours gives them a bit more of an abstract feel to them.
That is an argument that has raged in model train forums since forever. Grimy might be accurate, but not everyone wants to be that realistic. I think the best they could do and still hit their marketing demographics are neutral greys
I would love to see the options to buy individual locomotives, carriages and wagons along with the tracks available by type (straights, curves, points / turnouts etc) so we can buy what we need for out track plan.
Definitely would buy steam and other outline models.
We all know and need it. WHY CANT WE JUST HAVE IT
Supply & Demand. Lego aint gonna make the line up, if they do not see the demand coming in from the proper outlets.
@@BattleshipOrion It was supposed to be funny. I didn't really need an explanation lol 😂
@@dacrusty5460 My bad. GTA 6 rumors have been going hard, and I entirely blame Fortnite.
@@BattleshipOrion lol 😂 same
Great work man - looks properly authentic the mock-ups you've done.
Yeah, I think this is a great idea - your suggestions for packaging and products all made sense and I'll be honest, if it was an official theme I'd go for it!
Actually "powered tender pushed locomotive" has become quite common with steam engines in conventional model railroading (think Roco, Trix or Märklin).
One of the advantages is that the tender is a closed box anyway while they can offer more detail and even places to "look across" between the frame and boiler on the loco if there's no mechanical feed between the engine and wheels straight down as there would be with the engine in the boiler.
Usually the locomotive is still heavy enough to run fine through turns and everything.
(Granted, some just have the motor in the tender and drive both tender wheels and locomotive wheels via a propshaft)
For example the hornby Gordon was tender powered
I have used tender power in both my LEGO steam locomotives, it's a lot easier then trying to do a ton of complex gearing into the drive wheels. Also using Big Ben Bricks drive wheels, which I got before the introduction of the traction bands, so powering them through the locomotive would have just been wheelslip simulator 9000!
Someone should start a petition for this.
I remember "My own train" theme in 2001 and 2002. It was similar to your thoughts. ;)
Some seriously cool concepts there Tommy - LEGO you need to be watching this 👍
Great vid btw nice mocs
I REALLY want these lego steam trains! Also I love how you use a minifigure to talk and show expressions and stuff, its really clever!
A THOUSAND TIMES YEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
I remember having the Duplo TTTE sets and I’m a steamie fan, so this theme would be right up my alley!🙏🏻🙏🏻
These ideas are brilliant! I think people in the LEGO train community would love these sets!
I love these ideas! We don't see enough steam trains in Lego, or the special parts for them. I especially like having the rolling stock and track in different sets form the Locomotives. You just got yourself a subscriber!
Also your concept for a Lego theme train follows perfectly with what I would want, which is basically how model trains are sold but with lego. Also I've been super tired of electrical trains and I'm personally a fan of steam engines myself so I'd be super happy to see them make it a theme
This idea is perfect, I would love to buy a small tank engine with a guards van motorizing it. The Mocs are beautiful btw, great video.
Thank you very much!
WOW!, this is probably the best LEGO video I have ever watched on TH-cam! That was amazing and I really hope LEGO make this a theme now
This was glorious and you are great
I LOVE this idea! And having so much box art and set examples to accompany it really shows the viability of revitalizing the lego train theme
I think a Lego Trains theme would be amazing. I’m huge into electric model trains and would think it would be so fun to have the Lego option for model railroading. There would be a huge market for kids that like trains but can’t afford an electric train set. They do need to have detail and not be too blocky. Lego could do trains from all over the world the Union Pacific Big Boy, Southern Pacific Daylight, a Garratt used in Africa and even a Swiss cog train. It would open up the world of Lego immensely.
Mabye a series called legend of the rails?
We can have UP 4014, for being the largest engines on track;
Shinkansen 0 series, for being the first high speed train in the world;
Or LNER 4472 Flying Scotsman, JNR D51...Any famous trains!
I love steam trains man. thanks for making this video. and yes! We need more lego steam trains!
I'm glad someone finally covered this, I've been wanting more Lego steam engines for a long while
i love this concept dude, i’d really struggle not to go in hard on this!
with how much you buy already? XD
@@TommyCBricks Exactly!! 🤣🤣
I know some people will have a sour taste in the mouth but considering whats already out there in the open market with custom parts.. Make the investment... Buy a reasonable resin printer and make those custom pieces you really want and move along. LEGO will never do this again after the HORRIBLE release of this Idea they did back in the double 00's. that Steam set was SO bad that they not only should have fired that designer but they should have locked him or her in Prison for such a HORRIBLE set.
Please do not take this as I do not love the idea you have.. I'd sell my soul if they did.... just saying that you might see unicorns first.
i agree! i would love more trains to build and more sets to break the age limit of!
There was once a dedicated trains line in 2001's My Own Train, which had a similar proposal, though they didn't have the many variations on wheel size. I know I want a return of the tracks to separate straight and curved sets.
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I love this idea you have for a brand new train line and your concepts and ideas are awesome! I've always wanted more advanced/UCS style trains and I feel that this would work well! I especially would love another steam train too!
I got the crocodile locomotive this past Christmas and LOVE it. In all my 20+ years of Lego (I’m 28) I’ve actually never intentionally kept a set assembled and displayed until I got that set cause it looks so nice. Wish and hope lego makes more
As usual I think your ideas of this being a theme can work for the older demographic, myself included. Also, thanks for sending me here from your Halloween video!
Man, i would love this!
Dude, I agree with you on ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING in this video! I love LEGO, I love trains, I’ve been a Thomas The Tank Engine fan my WHOLE LIFE, so if I ever become a LEGO designer, making ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in this video a reality would be my FIRST priority!
Hey me too! Grew up with season 1 on DVD LOL.
@@ronanvave560 nice. What's your most fav season?
@@thomaspanditfan2435 Probably either season 1 or 3. Only have these along with season 6.
@@ronanvave560 dudeee, how can someone not have season 4 or 5 in their top 3?
@@thomaspanditfan2435 Hopefully I could grab them when the time comes. Besides. I was wanting to get season 5 at one point.
Yesssss we always need more trains. And steam trains are just amazing. If this was your dragons dens presentation I’d find right now. I tried finding out how much the emerald night was but the price just hurt. Great video!
You know, as much as I would want LEGO to produce a line like the one you've proposed, I highly doubt it would ever happen. The LEGO train community has been without support for a long time, and creators have done amazing things to boost the experience for everyone. We have a wide variety of 3rd party elements that fill a lot of the gaps in the market, such as custom wheels, rods, and now a long time builder has resurrected the 9v track system: www.fxbricks.com
I definitely wouldn't be opposed to more sets. It's just they have done stuff similar in the past, and it hasn't always worked out; My Own Trains from 2001. But since speed champions have done so well, who knows what LEGO can conjure up! For the meantime, if people are looking for some custom models, including that black engine from the thumbnail (my E2 loco coming out in late Sept.), check out Block Junction for custom instructions: blockjunction.co.uk/
The king has spoken
I fully agree with Britishbricks. The LEGO Train Builders have been left in the dark for so long to the point that we've created so many small businesses that cater to all our needs such as DCC-like systems from PFx Bricks to custom train wheels and coupling rods to 3D printed narrow gauge tracks. For sure, having more LEGO train sets would be great but at this point LEGO would not be able to compete with the current market out there unless LEGO decides to expand the Train theme massively which seems highly unlikely.
@@TheBrickCraftsman Well, there's always a possibility.
You could have a train tunnel, Bridge, in the theme. You even have famous stations like Kings Cross
I definitely agree with streamline trains! I have wanted one for a long time!
I Agree with you 100%!
Yes yes yes! This would be AWESOME!!! To be able to buy track, engines, and coaches separately, to have more variations of wheels, this is an awesome concept that Lego really should consider, cause they'd make a lot of money with it, I can guarantee that.
I love this idea. I have always loved trains and legos, I was disappointed that lego doesn’t release a lot of train sets. The most recent one I was impressed by was the crocodile locomotive, even if I didn’t get it. So yes I would love to see steam trains, even builds that are more specific and diverse, like a thatcher Perkins type loco and some western cars, or a mikado 2-8-4.
WE NEED MORE STEAM TRAINS!
I strongly agree with you and all of your great ideas and designs, we realy do need wider curves and individual carriages.
keep up the good work and I hope you make another video on this topic.
I am absolutely in love with this idea!
Just finished watching the video, it's great! The separate rolling stock (rolling stock as in both locomotives and wagons/carriages) sets are a great idea to be sure. Steam locomotives also returning to LEGO would also be great, considering that there barely are any that are licensed. :p
I would absolutely love this theme I want to get into building Lego trains but most of the reason I haven’t is the parts limitations as you said and it would bring a whole new community I think into building Lego trains
Exactly I would love to see a black 5, a olton hall, different types of tank engines, tons of rolling stocks, Thomas the tank engine sets and my favorite the polar express
Yes!We want this!
Amazing we need this
Every few years we have gotten another version of the Hogwarts Express. Now finally a decent version with real train wheels. This gives me hope for an even better version in the future, hopefully an UCS edition. The new crocodile train is the best LEGO set ever (after closing the gaps) IMO.
An easy one would be a certain blue E2 to be packaged with his faithful coaches. Of course he would have to have his own subline of your proposed Lego theme that deals with licensed fictional locomotives. The upside would be that if there is an official Flying Scotsman set, it would have the chance to have either have a real world design and the Thomas & Friends face as options for the builder to utilize.
Thomas is also an allowed IP for submissions in LEGO Ideas, so a successful set there could be used to test the waters for a full on Trains theme to come back.
This exact concept is something IV been thinking off for years! And the main reason I never got into Lego trains
I'm so glad someone is talking about it finnaly
I would freaking love this
MATE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE FOR W LONG TIME
I thoroughly believe LEGO needs to expand into the modeling of American freight trains. The railroad community being the size it is, and amount of illegal builds. It's an entirely missed market by them.
I can't understand why they are completely ignoring this theme and just re-releasing the same passenger trains??
As a older collector, I have pretty much all of the LEGO train related products since the late 80's. The train community is a niche market within the current business model. The licensed themes dominate the market and some of the more traditional themes have drifted away. Trains, Pirates and Castle have all suffered with either no product line or dumbed-down products with off-sized pieces and awkward looking builds. As far as trains are concerned, there are several third-party track and model providers that have some high quality products that offer a lot of opportunities for the LEGO train enthusiast.
Great idea! I like having locomotives and coaches separate so you can buy more than One coach for your train.
Mould-king is starting to give us what TLG won’t. RIP TLG city trains. TLG just doesn’t care.
I don't want to buy off brand lego, but I will if lego continues to ignore what we want 😤
Mould king also has a working steam module!
It's a shame that steam engines are looked down upon in the Lego community. I agree with everything you said in this.
Wait what? They are looked down upon in the Lego fandom?
@@TankEngine75 I think there's been only two steam engines made in this century by Lego. Those being The Emerald Night and The Hogwarts Express.
I agree… we need this
Fantastic idea, I missed out of most Lego steam trains when they came out and would love to buy them now.
I want a D2C either Flying Scotsman or Mallard! I’d buy one of those in a heartbeat. They could release the Scotsman set and include instructions to make the classic version or the new 2015 version thats currently on the tracks 😃
Or maybe
just maybe
Have a separate face plate from thomas and friends
Or a Southern Pacific GS4.
Iego should mage a d2c on a Prr t1 duplex
2016*
@@twinboo529 I’ll bet you correct others in real life too? Alright I was one year out, so?! I was there in York when it pulled into the station for the first time in 2016. The mistake was a simple typo 🙂 now go about your day in peace.
Personally with the current concept of Lego, it's amazing that they've made a super detailed VW T2 but I've always wanted them to be able to produce a licenced Flying Scotsman, or other variant of a steam train with said custom parts since when trying to build a steam train using stock Lego parts it looks rather unimaginative
Are you a Thomas fan?
Yeah! I was always looking forward LEGO release a Flying Scotsman with two tenders.
Great idea. Hopefully Lego will listen.
I LOVE YOUR IDEA!
I wasn’t into LEGO when the Emerald Knight released, though I saw it and considered buying it then. I bought the Crocodile and I love it. More steam trains, please. The idea of separate passenger cars is a great one. I would like more Hogwarts Express cars, but buying them on eBay is almost what I paid for the set.
I love this idea this would respark my love of Lego as I’ve got very bored and moved to modeling but I would 100% come back to lego
I'm like you, I started off with Lego trains but I moved to bigger stuff like volunteering at a actual railway, but I would still come back to Lego if they did something like this
im waiting for even more!
Aaaaaand now you've got me feeling nostalgic for the two Lego train sets I had as a kid.
I wish lego would do this, i am always wanting smaller trains and train cars for my city but can't afford the expensive lego train sets, i am also frustrated that you can't just buy switch tracks by themselves seeing as i have no use for any more curved track
A genius video and idea. I would love to have a specialised Lego train layout. Firstly, it's a much cheaper and quicker to build alternative to buying Hornby trains. Once you build the traditional railway layout it's a pain to either change and/or expand. Lego provides a zillion different possibilities. I love the idea of having proper platforms, rolling stock, engine sheds, turntables etc. I think a Lego train series would be huge.
Making some locomotives & passengers carriage in separate I think is a super good idea. I remember when I was a kid buying the Santa FE train, it was sold in 2 packs. One was the locomotive, and the other one the carriage, but it include many variants with extra pieces to make a regular passenger, or the restaurant, or the cargo one or the tail vagon. You could buy the locomotive and any number of wagons to make your train larger as you want and with all variants as you want. Super cool video Tommy!!
While I don't have too much interest in trains, I think this would be really cool. I love Lego and engineering, so while I probably wouldn't buy some of the more expensive/bigger trains, I might buy a smaller train. Having the option to expand the train later via different sets sounds amazing, especially if I start off small. I hope Lego does something like this.
Honestly I love this idea. My biggest beef with how Lego has handled trains is their thought of American Steam being only the 4-4-0 or 4-6-0, and how they considered a theme park train a steam train. There is such a variety of American steam and they haven't even breached the smallest subset. I'd love to see some USRA Pacifics, some articulated locomotives, or basically any streamlined loco.
Second to me is the issue of not selling individual rolling stock and track. It just isn't cost effective to buy Lego branded track when they sell it in the packs they do, and trying to find more passenger cars for my 60197 or for the Emerald Night is basically impossible.
Alongside all that, extra side buildings would be fun and a nice addition. Good video, let's make it happen!
(On a side note, I'm envious of you guys in the UK, you've done a much better job preserving your beautiful steam locomotives, and I would love to visit sometime and see them in person)
This would make my son SO happy I really hope Lego is listening.
Indeed we need
I love these ideas So much. Wave 2, please!
I wish Lego could outsource the management of an adult train system to a company like PECO who understand the needs of layout builders.
Dudeee, imagine a lego train version of sudrian engines like Gordon or Henry or even freaking Murdoch. Now that's what I would call a dream.
great idea!
Wow you put SOOO much thought into this if it were a real thing good job man
One steam train I'd love to see them create a model on is the Union Pacific 4041 Big Boy. It's a massive steam train and would make an excellent addition to the expert range I think.
Love the ideas, but we all know, LEGO hates trains
If that was the case, they're company would not exist as it is today. They are already beginning to feel the hurt of not having anything military as more & more people turn to COBI, Mega Blox, etc. The problem is that we're willing to make videos, not email the proper people. It's all supply & demand, or in fancy talk, logistics.
I agree
@@BattleshipOrion I love cobi
Has lots of cool useful parts too
Most of what you say is spot on, being from Australia I would like aussie trains as well. Good luck with your push for it to happen. Cheers
This would be perfect
Was dubious going into the video, but wow what a well thought out argument. Got my son the city train last Christmas and it annoyed me that if I wanted another carriage it would be a new set. Also why don’t Lego have a cross over piece? I ended up moc’ing one to do the job. Selling individual parts to a train is great, and I hope someone takes note of your presentation, very good.
Lego should definitely make more train sets in general. The market for them 2nd hand is huge and usually fetch good money.
What annoys me with Lego is the lack of doors in their city train sets. I remember getting the Santa Fe train back in the early 2000s. That set was absolutely superb. The emerald night is an excellent set. Why there were no more carriages made baffles me. We all know how they’d sell.
Yes... this is exactly it right here!
I LOVE steam trains this would be the best christmas present ever of all time!
Not really a big train guy myself, but after watching this video I could definitely see how great a dedicated train theme could be. Would love to to see either a Japanese bullet train or a American Style freight locomotive
Love this idea. When LEGO did something like this years ago I thought it was really well received in the LEGO community and has baffled me why they haven't gone back to doing something like this considering people would rush to buy these type of sets off the shelves. Strange business tactic
Brilliant idea
This is epic and I agree
What's stopping someone from starting a business making custom Lego train model sets? Could be like Brickmania does for military theme that Lego does not offer.
good idea
Sure we need more steam trains since the last *proper* one was the emerald night (the Hogwarts and Christmas train feel to childish), but I don't agree on it being a separate category for now. What lego should do first is just release more creator expert trains in general since we had to wait 7 years for the crocodile.
Yes, Trains! Lego, You should do that.
1000% would love to see Lego steam trains!!!
I love this concept!! Its why I hope LEGO will push for an idea like this because their was a LEGO IDEAS Thomas and Friends model that was promoted, that needs those new wheel sizes to work!
If they did a Steam line or Train line again id love to see the series create the Thomas and Friends in their own sets that can be directed for all ages
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