It's really weird to see a small guy like Ness taking down Bowser, but then again when you're able to use him right like Nakat, especially with his airy jumps and projectiles, it's hard to lose.
Gabe Simmons My bad, I meant someone else taking over :P I shoulda been more clear. And you really think so? I feel like if someone else took over Smash would be better for the people who play Melee. I could totally se whoever takes it over giving in to the fans. Cause as it stands Smash is how Sakurai wants it. Idk not that either side is right or wrong (tbh I couldn't care less) but I think it'd be interesting to say the least to see where smash goes from here. I HIGHLY doubt Nintendo is gonna let a huge IP like Smash die out :P
***** That is true but honestly, keep in mind I LOVE Sakurai and have tremendous respect for the guy, he should stop making smash. He always works hard and if I'm not mistaken he doesn't like the process that goes into smash. Plus he is up there in years. I think he should pull a Miyamoto with Smash like how Miyamoto does with Zelda and like I guess let someone else work on it while he just pokes his head in and like maybe straighten things?
Ness is very effective against large, heavy characters like Ike, Bowser, Ganon, etc. Easy to string throws into air combos, and PK thunder 1 and 2 are easier to land. Anyone else have problems against fast characters/ small ones like Sonic, Sheik or is that just me?
Definitely not just you. Sonic is the most annoying character to fight with ANY character imo. Especially with the lag that comes with for glory matches, he's ridiculously hard to hit.
Yes, as a Ness main myself I have a few troubles against Sonic, Sheik, Luigi, and Fox. But Fox and Sheik can get killed at early percents with the back-throw. Try having a counter pick with fast characters rather than using Ness. My counter pick is Pikachu
+fam money As a Ness main sine 64. Fast characters like the ones you mentioned can be beaten by reading their moves and knowing the character combos. I myself like to stand and just keep my ground, also Ness is pretty agile and in someones who knows how his character physics work you can easily combo Shiek or Sonic. Specially once they get 60 a reverse Psychic throw they fly far as fuck. PK Fire and Trip them with a Down A then the Bat. If not PK Rockin A aerial can do a lot to them if you keep doing in over and over while dodging. Ive played really good Shiek and sonic players and i make them sweat, again Ness is a beats here in 4.
Well that's part of it. Other reasons include Ness having a better time approaching and safer kill options. I'm a Bowser main myself, so I love it when I see a Bowser match, but it pains me too see a rather lukewarm match.
***** I don't know what you mean when you say that Bowser's sideB can string together air combos. As to my current knowledge, Bowser does not have an air combo game. (or much of any combo game) I haven't found much use of Bowser's sideB other than for air mixups yet, considering that the opponent has good influence over the direction on where it will land, moreso if Bowser has higher %. SideB only does 17%? Is a slower initiating grab than Bowser's regular grab. It also sometimes whiffs for no apparent reason. It would have been nice to have it being able to confirm kill at least. I understand the worry however, Jigglypuff dies to sideB at only about 80% after all. It just seems like Bowser's sideB doesn't have the payback for the risk and lack of usefulness.
Never understood this tournament style of play. I'll stick with not grabbing 24/7 and using the wii remote, and I use it inverted, like with 1 and 2 on the left
Gabe Simmons Bowser is a good character, he is just playing him bad. Sure he's easy to combo but beside that he gas amazing range, damage and knock-back, plus he's actually pretty fast. Bowser is bamf in this game.
I hate bowser in this game. So many people on for glory think they are good because bowser hits hard and it takes someone like luigi to actually work for the damage
M8 You've clearly never even fuckin' played Bowser if you think he's easy. When half the cast can come back from bottom corner off screen, are stupidly hard to kill for being fucking tiny (Villager surviving a Side B at 120% from left middle left? BS), and so many characters having practically no-risk landing lag, a character who can BARELY survive weak spikes, is easy to kill off top (And with so many ridiculous up airs having smash attack levels of knockback) Bowser might /SEEM/ easy because of high damage output, but he's actually really hard to kill with, because his only "Fast" kill moves are grabs, which has a stupidly high end lag animation, his side B (Which, again, kills WAY too late) and his Ftilt. Pretty much anything else he can do to kill takes a read, or luck.
4:43-4:46 Shadow Realm for life! Phijkchu Transkid Jalen Harvell This Ness is so freaking good I might have to switch Mario from #8 to #9 and Luigi #10 for Ness.
I came here thinking I could learn some Bowser moves.
***** I knew everything except up smash. I hardly ever use it. i'll try it though.
***** Yea, fire breath comes in really handy sometimes.
***** if u can bait out a read you can down B (on land) and break their shield and just use an up smash
***** yes I'm not saying it's better just it can be used
Sometimes you can train them to think ur going to fair and they can shield and you get a free shield break
That messed up down b was a heartbreaker
That's what you deserve when you dress like that and don't play Luigi.
It's really weird to see a small guy like Ness taking down Bowser, but then again when you're able to use him right like Nakat, especially with his airy jumps and projectiles, it's hard to lose.
1:18 Ladies & Gentlemen (This being a video game is NO excuse) one of the stupidest things to ever go down in smash.
Looks like Ness is slowly but surely moving up the tier list should be top tier by smash 5-6...hopefully
*regretfully
Doesn't mean there won't be a Smash 5.
Gabe Simmons My bad, I meant someone else taking over :P I shoulda been more clear. And you really think so? I feel like if someone else took over Smash would be better for the people who play Melee. I could totally se whoever takes it over giving in to the fans. Cause as it stands Smash is how Sakurai wants it. Idk not that either side is right or wrong (tbh I couldn't care less) but I think it'd be interesting to say the least to see where smash goes from here. I HIGHLY doubt Nintendo is gonna let a huge IP like Smash die out :P
***** That is true but honestly, keep in mind I LOVE Sakurai and have tremendous respect for the guy, he should stop making smash. He always works hard and if I'm not mistaken he doesn't like the process that goes into smash. Plus he is up there in years. I think he should pull a Miyamoto with Smash like how Miyamoto does with Zelda and like I guess let someone else work on it while he just pokes his head in and like maybe straighten things?
Ness is very effective against large, heavy characters like Ike, Bowser, Ganon, etc. Easy to string throws into air combos, and PK thunder 1 and 2 are easier to land. Anyone else have problems against fast characters/ small ones like Sonic, Sheik or is that just me?
Definitely not just you. Sonic is the most annoying character to fight with ANY character imo. Especially with the lag that comes with for glory matches, he's ridiculously hard to hit.
Yes, as a Ness main myself I have a few troubles against Sonic, Sheik, Luigi, and Fox. But Fox and Sheik can get killed at early percents with the back-throw. Try having a counter pick with fast characters rather than using Ness. My counter pick is Pikachu
I have problems with light characters like jigglypuff, Kirby etc
+fam money As a Ness main sine 64. Fast characters like the ones you mentioned can be beaten by reading their moves and knowing the character combos. I myself like to stand and just keep my ground, also Ness is pretty agile and in someones who knows how his character physics work you can easily combo Shiek or Sonic. Specially once they get 60 a reverse Psychic throw they fly far as fuck. PK Fire and Trip them with a Down A then the Bat. If not PK Rockin A aerial can do a lot to them if you keep doing in over and over while dodging. Ive played really good Shiek and sonic players and i make them sweat, again Ness is a beats here in 4.
Ness is cancer. He just spams pk fire until you’re in back throw kill range. No skill at all. Every ness main late game is fishing for pk fire spams
Ness has the best kill options, bowser has the best raw kill power.
Nakat (NesS) ?
When I saw that this game was Ness vs Bowser, then saw the video was just over 5 mins long, how did I know that Ness would win?
bowserboy3 It is Ness, in the hands of Nakat
Well that's part of it. Other reasons include Ness having a better time approaching and safer kill options. I'm a Bowser main myself, so I love it when I see a Bowser match, but it pains me too see a rather lukewarm match.
I wonder why PK Freeze doesnt work on Bowser ,but to charizard it works...
Who's commentating with false? I used to think in previous videos that he was Nakat haha
lol Me too! but his name is Keitaro.
Anyone else feel it's just kind of weird that Ness's Bair is as strong as it is when Bowser's side Special has problems confirming kill at high %?
Whoops! I had meant to type Ness's Back Throw!
***** I don't know what you mean when you say that Bowser's sideB can string together air combos. As to my current knowledge, Bowser does not have an air combo game. (or much of any combo game)
I haven't found much use of Bowser's sideB other than for air mixups yet, considering that the opponent has good influence over the direction on where it will land, moreso if Bowser has higher %. SideB only does 17%? Is a slower initiating grab than Bowser's regular grab. It also sometimes whiffs for no apparent reason.
It would have been nice to have it being able to confirm kill at least. I understand the worry however, Jigglypuff dies to sideB at only about 80% after all. It just seems like Bowser's sideB doesn't have the payback for the risk and lack of usefulness.
You are right. Bowser has so many options to punish with already. Perhaps I need to consolidate the way I play singles.
Never understood this tournament style of play. I'll stick with not grabbing 24/7 and using the wii remote, and I use it inverted, like with 1 and 2 on the left
Zarrakon why would you do that? How do you even play MARIO Kart 8.
amazing ness
Bad Bowser.
Yup
Decent Bowser*
Psycho Teddybear he's OK, but isn't really applying much pressure or using all of his tools. If he mixed it up more he'd do better.
James Gaulding Hence: Decent.
Gabe Simmons Bowser is a good character, he is just playing him bad. Sure he's easy to combo but beside that he gas amazing range, damage and knock-back, plus he's actually pretty fast. Bowser is bamf in this game.
I hate bowser in this game. So many people on for glory think they are good because bowser hits hard and it takes someone like luigi to actually work for the damage
+Alucard Hellsing lol luigi doesnt have to work for damage, you can get like 30 to 40 percent off of one throw combo
M8 You've clearly never even fuckin' played Bowser if you think he's easy. When half the cast can come back from bottom corner off screen, are stupidly hard to kill for being fucking tiny (Villager surviving a Side B at 120% from left middle left? BS), and so many characters having practically no-risk landing lag, a character who can BARELY survive weak spikes, is easy to kill off top (And with so many ridiculous up airs having smash attack levels of knockback) Bowser might /SEEM/ easy because of high damage output, but he's actually really hard to kill with, because his only "Fast" kill moves are grabs, which has a stupidly high end lag animation, his side B (Which, again, kills WAY too late) and his Ftilt. Pretty much anything else he can do to kill takes a read, or luck.
Nakat VS Gackt. Someone put them up against each other 😭😭
Balanced V incredibly OP.
Outcome was obvious.
DigiboyGaming yeah because ness is op lol and lets call bowsers pivot grab balanced.
Maranatha!
4:43-4:46 Shadow Realm for life!
Phijkchu Transkid Jalen Harvell
This Ness is so freaking good I might have to switch Mario from #8 to #9 and Luigi #10 for Ness.
He's not as good as my Ness ;)
Phijkchu Transkid If you play like this on the 3ds I commend you, which is kinda unlikely.
Mike Rashford Heyyyy
Lol I'm decent with Ness ... First mistake any Ness player does in the beginning is spam PK fire to D- throw ... but its not that bad though
Phijkchu Transkid Bro there's combos you just can't perform on 3ds...
9:37PM dittos
exist is almost as good as David the bowser guy
Ness is super op