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Did you know...when disney aired snow white in cinemas for the first time in the 1930s both cs lewis and Tolkien went to view it and ended up hating the film due to how the dwarfs where portrayed in it and because they thought the film patronized children because it softened a lot of the more darker source material from the original books that disney had appended then from.
im pretty sure thingol refused to reward them for their services, so its fair. +the elves technically didn't beat them bc it was one faction against 3, kind of an unfair battle
Thingol refused payment because he gave them the job of combining the Naugilmer with the Simiral. Then when he asked what he owed them, they asked for the Naugilmer with the Simiral. After telling them, no, i pay to do a job for me, any other price please they murder him in cold blood. It was Dwarven Greed amd subsequent lies of refusal of payment that sparked the feud.
While the Third Age tales of LoTR and the Hobbit are able to show how the elves of the time do have some differences, that’s practically the opposite for the dwarves. By the third age, you wouldn’t suspect or know that once upon a time they were much more diverse.
Their procession away from the battle of unnumbered tears has got to be amongst the most fearsome scenes of the first age. P.S. when is the next Alt history coming out?
Yeah it was impressive. I never took it has a sign of a unique battle formation though. Just that all other hosts were terrified of them because they had rarely fought them and the fact they stood their own against Dragons.... actually coming out on top... probably frightened many Orcs, Easterlings, Trolls, and Dragons lol.
This is too simplistic of an explanation. Most if not almost all dwarves wouldn't think of siding with the shadow... the few that did were called Petty-dwarves and often were selfish and greedy, only setting out for themselves. The others are wicked dwarves who are implied to sell their services to Sauron
Mortally? Forgive the semantics, but a mortal wound is one that the receiver doesn't recover from. Alas, Glauring, while gravely injured, survived to cause many more mischiefs to the free peoples. And in the second case of overly semantic zealotry (by me), are the Menegroth Sindar to be considered Eldar? Aside from that, great videos! Love them and the research put into them
Actually, Glaurung did in fact never recover from that injury. It became the only weak point in his scales, and it was through that injury that Turin dealt him the killing blow.
@@Mateo-oq7ui wouldn't be more prudent to characterize it as a crippling wound? After all he never died as a directly from it. As for being dealt his final (and mortal wound) at exactly the same spot, what is your source?
Actually, the labeling of Elves is so confusing as to make your head spin. Apparently, any Elves associated with the three original families that left Cuivienen with Oromë are considered Eldar. Sundae fit in that category too, as do Umanyar and Nandor. I think the problem is that Oromë created that word to identify those Elves who would follow him back to Aman. So all Elves of Aman are clearly Eldar. Nevertheless, those who started out with the intention of good Ng to Valinor, but bailed on Oromë, and settled elsewhere along the way seem to qualify as Eldar too. Good luck sorting it all out.
The best way to overcome darkness... is to seek out the Light. We too often forget that Tolkien was a devout Christian, and that, "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision." On that note, let me honour Tolkien through honouring the One he was pointing to, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (The words of Jesus in John 8:12) If this Light is calling you, and you'd like to find out more, please don't hesitate to contact me. We can talk LoTR also ;)
I really like these profile videos; going back to previously covered fantasy worlds and giving them a more indepth view of the races or faction's histories and culture. Are you doing these profile videos to give more time for your other series to develop and conclude? I just wish you the best for making more lore videos across many fantasy and Sci-Fi worlds.
These videos would be great, but could you please finish the alternate history series with the mongols and the final confrontation with king Bela of Hungary. Been a follower and fan of the channel for a long time now and I really enjoy these videos. Please do finish that series and keep up the great work❤🎉
Theres major issues with PJ hobbit but the armor he chose for Erbor and thr iron hills to me just nailed what a stout mountain race would be armed and armored in. Also nothing beats pony sized Goats wrecking your enemies
Sorry, but in Tolkien the Dwarves were made first, without God's permission. Their maker didnt know what people would look like yet, which is why they're so short and misshapen. Then because Aule rebelled in making them, they were put to sleep and forced to remain dormant until both the Elves and Men had awoken and been created by God. ;P
@@Glorfindel_117wait I thought Aule first made the Eleves then the Men. But a god of smiths made his own which were the Dwarves. Thats the reason why they were short, but strong and dense. Aule upon seeing this got mad but he didn’t want to just erase them so he kept them and put them to sleep along with the elves, and men.
@@lunaasonininongry6297 Eru, not Aule. Aule made the Dwarves, Eru made Aule and Elves/Men. The Dwarves came first because Aule got impatient waiting for Elves. Eru forgave him and allowed his robots to have life and free will, after the Elves and Men arrived.
Lol Eru made Elves and Men. Dwarves were creations of Aule who attempted to emulate Eru and failed. Eru had to intervene, question why he did this, and then bring them to life out of compassion. This also prompted the creation of Ents and Eagles who similarly Eru also had to assist in bringing to life. The Gods of Middle Earth... aren't really Gods. They have counterparts rooted in classical mythology but in Middle Earth they more akin to Arch Angels put on charge of keeping the whole system running. They can't actually create life themselves without going Eru. All but Melkor accepted this and his rebellion set off chain reaction leading to Dwarves, Ents, and Eagles.
14:25 He didn't insult them... he just stated the facts. They were in his kingdom, they were outnumbered, they were contracted to do a job, and they were paid for their service. They tried to renegotiate torwards the end which prompted the whole standoff. Who but the dwarves would renegotiate with a King in the heart of his own Kingdom and renegotiate a deal after they had already being paid??😂🤣😵💫🧐 The dwarves have a strange morality of everything thats theirs is theirs and everything that they give of their own free will is theirs. Technically Bilbo Mithril Shirt still belongs to King Dain... the moment he decides it is... nevermind the fact it was a gift 🎁. Dwarves are some of the biggest hypocrites in middle earth. If Morgoth or Sauron had just allowed to them mine away they'd strip Arda bear without having to do any work at all...😂🤣😆
As far as Cavalry goes, the movie take the liberty of depicting Dwarf riding Goats. Giant ones. Goats are good mountaineers, and they live in the mountains, so it seems quite logical... But do you think it's a good presentation on Dwarven military?
I mean it's possible at least by the Third Age. Dwarves had been living in close proximity to the horse peoples of Rhovanion, Rhun and possibly peoples further east. They might have adopted something like chariots the Wain Riders used and with their tech skills made it better. Whether or not goats would be used... is I guess something to speculate about. Not alot of proof though.
i have an important thing to say, we rode war goats at the battle of the five armies, and we crushed the whimpering elves where they stood with our magnificent artillery.
While Tolkien did write that "No Dwarf would ever mount a horse willingly, nor did any ever harbour animals, not even dogs", it should be noted that this is inconsistent with: ""Bravo!” said Balin who was standing at the inn door looking out for him. Just then all the others came round the corner of the road from the village. They were on ponies, and each pony was slung about with all kinds of baggages, packages, parcels, and paraphernalia. There was a very small pony, apparently for Bilbo. “Up you two get, and off we go!” said Thorin." The Hobbit, Roast Mutton ...and: "An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End. The startled hobbits peered out of lamplit doors to gape at it. It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods." LotR, A Long Expected Party
True, although I guess the get out clause is "willingly". They might when necessary. There's a general split between those who dislike the inconsistencies, and those who like them because it gives a more authentic feel, like "real world" mythologies passed down orally can have.
assuming your quote is from people's of Middle Earth. it's tricky coz by the time the hobbit come along thorin and co are wanderes and because of this they have to unwillingly start using ponies and becoming mercenaries also which is also not dwarf like. I think we have to consider all the ages and with this not only Dwarves changed their ways. Thorins company also mounted the eagles unwillingly. at the same time I get what you saying
I would like to mention that he did specifically mention them not using animals in warfare so it's totally possible they would use them to carry goods. Hardy as they are even pack animals are needed for Dwarven loads (probably).
@@ImmortalChessDaily The first quote ('No Dwarf...') is from PoMe (Dwarves and Men ca. 1969). I don't recall Tolkien writing about Dwarves becoming mercenaries, nor do the passages in LotR* and The Hobbit indicate any 'unwillingness'. Some disappointment at losing the use of Beorn's ponies (Gandalf: ""Now you must send back these excellent ponies you have borrowed.” The dwarves were inclined to grumble at this, but the wizard told them they were fools." (TH, A Short Rest)). *early passage with cart. Later Gimli seems reluctant "I wish I could walk and not bump like a sack at Gandalf’s saddlebow.’", "‘And a Dwarf is no horseman. It is orc-necks I would hew, not shave the scalps of Men,’".
@@hazey9514 While not using them in warfare (i.e. no cavalry) is consistant, the "nor did any ever harbour animals", is just a late inconsistancy. Keeping beasts of burden (and even herds and flocks for food (when it can't be gotten through trade)), would seem more logical...
For food yes.. but to ride?? How many peoples irl actually were able to successfully use goats as beats of burden outside of Norse Myth? Not many Vikings or Germanic Tribes charged into battle in chariots drawn by goats lol. At least that I know of...😂😂😂
Wow. You guys cover a lot of lore. I have not heard anyone say that there were Dwarves who teamed up with Sauron in the East. I know most of the Dwarven Rings were in the Far East and they could never corrupt the Dwarves like the 9 Rings corrupted Men into Nazgul. So where can I find about these evil Dwarves that served Sauron and fought their kindred?
I suspect these guys are inferring it from passages like this: "They [Goblins] did not hate dwarves especially, no more than they hated everybody and everything, and particularly the orderly and prosperous; in some parts wicked dwarves had even made alliances with them." The Hobbit, Over Hill and Under Hill ...and from this about the Last Alliance: "Of the Dwarves few fought upon either side; but the kindred of Durin of Moria fought against Sauron." Silm, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age
@@Tar-Elenion The thing is, I found some evidence of wicked Dwarves over at Tolkien Gateway, not that they are always right. Personally, I can't see how any Dwarves would turn to evil, except for greed perhaps. But what could Sauron or Melkor offer them that they would be willing to kill other Dwarves for? It is unimaginable.
@@Enerdhil Across the books the stories only interact with 3 of the 7 houses of dwarves, we barely see or hear about the other 4 after their introduction due to how far to the east they reside. It is easy to assume these distant houses were more vulnerable to the influence of the dark lords of they sought them out. It is likely they had trade relations with the Easterlings which could further spread the corruption. Also we do see evidence of them shifting towards evil on a few occasions in the books, but mostly in regards to greed and a grudge against elves, but those weaknesses are things that Sauron could have used to manipulate in to turning some to his side.
@@barethor5869 Well, Aulë created the Dwarves. He has a history of evil connected to him (Sauron, Saruman), so maybe Dwarves are capable of evil. I know they killed Elu Thingol and stole the Nauglamir they were commissioned to bind together with a Silmaril, but kill each other? The Dwarves of Belegost and Nogrod exiled bad Dwarves rather than kill them outright. Whether it is the Battle of Azanulbizar or Five Armies, Dwarves fight for each other. Dwarves should never ally with Sauron. He couldn't get them to obey him even when they were wearing Rings of Power he gave to them.
@Enerdhil Just because the dwarf lords were able to resist his influence from the rings doesn't mean all dwarves can. The dwarves were not a single united force, there is no guarantee that some weren't drawn in by his manipulation, feeding their greed and envy to turn them against the other dwarves. And that is all besides the fact that he could just capture some, enslave them, and force them to fight for him, as he has done with so many orcs and humans.
Love all your stuff, and great video as always. But I really gotta say, that was the ugliest Thingol I have ever seen! I'm sure it was just a quickie made for that little animation but he looked more like ragged Denethor the Steward than one of the tallest, most noble King of Elves to ever have lived.
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As a Dwarf of the First Age myself, I really appreciated this
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You feel represented now? :D
Brother, may Durin bless your Halls, keep your alcohol chill and your mines fresh.
I always had a soft spot for dwarves. Their depiction in Tolkien is one of the best in any fantasy
Agreed, although i love the depiction in Warhammer Fantasy as well
Too bad they had the worst afterlife.
Did you know...when disney aired snow white in cinemas for the first time in the 1930s both cs lewis and Tolkien went to view it and ended up hating the film due to how the dwarfs where portrayed in it and because they thought the film patronized children because it softened a lot of the more darker source material from the original books that disney had appended then from.
Admit it it’s the briefed women.
Elves: We are so sorry we killed your wild-living petty cousins!
Dwarves: Oh no! Anyway.
For the Elves, it really was a horrified "Oh. _Ohhhh._ Oh no."
MARK IT IN THE BOOK!!!!
Oh wait...
@@fjLKA BRING OUT THE DAMMAZ KRON!
Rock and stone, brothers!
Rock and stone!
Brothers of the mine rejoice!
Dear I hear rock and stone
Haha yes. rock and stone it never gets old !
Rock and stone!
Khazukan Kazakit- ha!!! The great book of grudges shall bleed red!!
Oooppss wrong dwarves 😂😅
all dwarves are connected, don't worry
That warcry though...love it.
Sindar hunting party: "Petty what now?"
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Suggesting the Dwarfs stole from the Elves, that's a grudgeoning.
im pretty sure thingol refused to reward them for their services, so its fair. +the elves technically didn't beat them bc it was one faction against 3, kind of an unfair battle
Thingol refused payment because he gave them the job of combining the Naugilmer with the Simiral. Then when he asked what he owed them, they asked for the Naugilmer with the Simiral. After telling them, no, i pay to do a job for me, any other price please they murder him in cold blood.
It was Dwarven Greed amd subsequent lies of refusal of payment that sparked the feud.
While the Third Age tales of LoTR and the Hobbit are able to show how the elves of the time do have some differences, that’s practically the opposite for the dwarves. By the third age, you wouldn’t suspect or know that once upon a time they were much more diverse.
In the Third Age we only ever see the Dwarves of Durin's Folk, so they are indeed alike .
@@SantomPhwe could’ve seen some Broadbeams, just we wouldn’t know as they moved in and where assimilated into the house of durin.
Dwarves are still diverse........ in the Rings of Power.🤪
@@Enerdhil lets not
@@nvmtt
Sorry, I couldn't resist.😅
Please make a Video about the Army of Morgoth (Melkor) and his Orcish Warriors
Likely to come after a video on the 1st age men and Edain.
It's coming
I’m 5’6. I’m a pretty tall dwarf. Shave ice the tall they call me
Excited for more Dwarven content!
Their procession away from the battle of unnumbered tears has got to be amongst the most fearsome scenes of the first age.
P.S. when is the next Alt history coming out?
dwarves be like, just raises a shield wall and axes and the dark horde just backs off like
nah, its cool man, we ain't gonna piss you off
@SOMEONE-hv3xc what a film scene it would make. Gloomy but awe Inspiring.
Yeah it was impressive. I never took it has a sign of a unique battle formation though. Just that all other hosts were terrified of them because they had rarely fought them and the fact they stood their own against Dragons.... actually coming out on top... probably frightened many Orcs, Easterlings, Trolls, and Dragons lol.
The dwarfs were tanks for any army, unfortunately they did fight for both sides
This is too simplistic of an explanation. Most if not almost all dwarves wouldn't think of siding with the shadow... the few that did were called Petty-dwarves and often were selfish and greedy, only setting out for themselves. The others are wicked dwarves who are implied to sell their services to Sauron
You guys need to make the entire map available somehow, they are amazing. Or maybe find a way to make the entire globe for each age !!
Would be so awesome with a series of movies about the first age...so epic
Suuuper cool video dude, loved it.
Would like to see some Black Company and Memory Sorrow and Thorn lore documentaries one of these days.
Mortally? Forgive the semantics, but a mortal wound is one that the receiver doesn't recover from. Alas, Glauring, while gravely injured, survived to cause many more mischiefs to the free peoples.
And in the second case of overly semantic zealotry (by me), are the Menegroth Sindar to be considered Eldar?
Aside from that, great videos! Love them and the research put into them
Actually, Glaurung did in fact never recover from that injury. It became the only weak point in his scales, and it was through that injury that Turin dealt him the killing blow.
@@Mateo-oq7ui wouldn't be more prudent to characterize it as a crippling wound? After all he never died as a directly from it.
As for being dealt his final (and mortal wound) at exactly the same spot, what is your source?
According to The Silmarillion, The Teleri that entered Beleriand are considered Eldar.
@@ilejovcevski79the use of the word whilst incorrect still gets the point across
Actually, the labeling of Elves is so confusing as to make your head spin. Apparently, any Elves associated with the three original families that left Cuivienen with Oromë are considered Eldar. Sundae fit in that category too, as do Umanyar and Nandor.
I think the problem is that Oromë created that word to identify those Elves who would follow him back to Aman. So all Elves of Aman are clearly Eldar. Nevertheless, those who started out with the intention of good Ng to Valinor, but bailed on Oromë, and settled elsewhere along the way seem to qualify as Eldar too. Good luck sorting it all out.
Love your content! More GOT please! What if Rhaegar won the rebellion!
These dwarves brushed past even dragon fire, respects.
Patiently waiting for that next first law video
What a great series so far! ⚔🔥🪓
Please keep doing what you do your videos are such a joy to watch. ( a happy LOTR fan)
The best way to overcome darkness... is to seek out the Light. We too often forget that Tolkien was a devout Christian, and that, "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision."
On that note, let me honour Tolkien through honouring the One he was pointing to, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." (The words of Jesus in John 8:12)
If this Light is calling you, and you'd like to find out more, please don't hesitate to contact me. We can talk LoTR also ;)
You’re videos are amazing. You should do a halo or mass effect series!! Keep up the amazing work man!
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Always a pleasure ❤
These breakdowns of armies are fantastic! Great stuff
Please make lore videos on The Legend of Zelda!
Omg that be epic asf
Elves saying "yeah, this is totally what it was like...."
I really like these profile videos; going back to previously covered fantasy worlds and giving them a more indepth view of the races or faction's histories and culture.
Are you doing these profile videos to give more time for your other series to develop and conclude? I just wish you the best for making more lore videos across many fantasy and Sci-Fi worlds.
1:11 *huge sigh*
Why do people keep falling for that company?
These videos would be great, but could you please finish the alternate history series with the mongols and the final confrontation with king Bela of Hungary. Been a follower and fan of the channel for a long time now and I really enjoy these videos. Please do finish that series and keep up the great work❤🎉
The image of the dwarf warrior facing the dragon goes so fucking hard, it'd be epic if it was published for download
Do a video on the wars in Killzone
Another Banger🔥
The book of grudges must be filled with
Please cover the lore of Mass Effect Universe.
So, when are you guys doing Malazan?
The Sons of Durin will rise!
Aye!
keep up the great work you guys😄👍
Theres major issues with PJ hobbit but the armor he chose for Erbor and thr iron hills to me just nailed what a stout mountain race would be armed and armored in.
Also nothing beats pony sized Goats wrecking your enemies
Ahh yes the Dorfs
Imagine the Dwarfs from Warhammer but without their more advanced technology. That sums up Lotr dwarvs pretty well
The dwarfs of the iron hills did indeed used goat cavalry and also the longbeards also used war charriots
In a trial run the Gods first made the Elves, realising their mistakes they then made the Dwarves.
Sorry, but in Tolkien the Dwarves were made first, without God's permission. Their maker didnt know what people would look like yet, which is why they're so short and misshapen. Then because Aule rebelled in making them, they were put to sleep and forced to remain dormant until both the Elves and Men had awoken and been created by God. ;P
@@Glorfindel_117wait I thought Aule first made the Eleves then the Men. But a god of smiths made his own which were the Dwarves. Thats the reason why they were short, but strong and dense. Aule upon seeing this got mad but he didn’t want to just erase them so he kept them and put them to sleep along with the elves, and men.
@@lunaasonininongry6297 Eru, not Aule. Aule made the Dwarves, Eru made Aule and Elves/Men. The Dwarves came first because Aule got impatient waiting for Elves. Eru forgave him and allowed his robots to have life and free will, after the Elves and Men arrived.
@@Glorfindel_117You're doing Eru's work sir! Too much misinformation floating around on the Internet!
Lol Eru made Elves and Men. Dwarves were creations of Aule who attempted to emulate Eru and failed. Eru had to intervene, question why he did this, and then bring them to life out of compassion. This also prompted the creation of Ents and Eagles who similarly Eru also had to assist in bringing to life. The Gods of Middle Earth... aren't really Gods. They have counterparts rooted in classical mythology but in Middle Earth they more akin to Arch Angels put on charge of keeping the whole system running. They can't actually create life themselves without going Eru. All but Melkor accepted this and his rebellion set off chain reaction leading to Dwarves, Ents, and Eagles.
Please do WoW lore soon
Dwarves never left the Blue Mountains, even after the ruin of Beleriand. The video is inaccurate.
14:25 He didn't insult them... he just stated the facts. They were in his kingdom, they were outnumbered, they were contracted to do a job, and they were paid for their service. They tried to renegotiate torwards the end which prompted the whole standoff. Who but the dwarves would renegotiate with a King in the heart of his own Kingdom and renegotiate a deal after they had already being paid??😂🤣😵💫🧐
The dwarves have a strange morality of everything thats theirs is theirs and everything that they give of their own free will is theirs. Technically Bilbo Mithril Shirt still belongs to King Dain... the moment he decides it is... nevermind the fact it was a gift 🎁. Dwarves are some of the biggest hypocrites in middle earth. If Morgoth or Sauron had just allowed to them mine away they'd strip Arda bear without having to do any work at all...😂🤣😆
Learning about lotr is very much like learning history of our world itself
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Is this about dwarves or dorves?
Durin awoke in Azalnulbizar before any other dwarf was around. He was the first to awaken out of ALL dwarves in Arda.
Awesome!
Hell yeah, brother.
You would find it impossible that a creature with so much hair has a resistance to fire...
The fans want more Elder Scrolls lore vids.
As far as Cavalry goes, the movie take the liberty of depicting Dwarf riding Goats. Giant ones. Goats are good mountaineers, and they live in the mountains, so it seems quite logical... But do you think it's a good presentation on Dwarven military?
What the movies did with goats were utterly stupid.
@@OneAndOnlyWantedWhy?
I mean it's possible at least by the Third Age. Dwarves had been living in close proximity to the horse peoples of Rhovanion, Rhun and possibly peoples further east. They might have adopted something like chariots the Wain Riders used and with their tech skills made it better. Whether or not goats would be used... is I guess something to speculate about. Not alot of proof though.
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Petty Dwarves = Gully Dwarves?
i have an important thing to say, we rode war goats at the battle of the five armies, and we crushed the whimpering elves where they stood with our magnificent artillery.
While Tolkien did write that "No Dwarf would ever mount a horse willingly, nor did any ever harbour animals, not even dogs", it should be noted that this is inconsistent with:
""Bravo!” said Balin who was standing at the inn door looking out for him.
Just then all the others came round the corner of the road from the village. They were on ponies, and each pony was slung about with all kinds of baggages, packages, parcels, and paraphernalia. There was a very small pony, apparently for Bilbo.
“Up you two get, and off we go!” said Thorin."
The Hobbit, Roast Mutton
...and:
"An odd-looking waggon laden with odd-looking packages rolled into Hobbiton one evening and toiled up the Hill to Bag End. The startled hobbits peered out of lamplit doors to gape at it. It was driven by outlandish folk, singing strange songs: dwarves with long beards and deep hoods."
LotR, A Long Expected Party
True, although I guess the get out clause is "willingly". They might when necessary.
There's a general split between those who dislike the inconsistencies, and those who like them because it gives a more authentic feel, like "real world" mythologies passed down orally can have.
assuming your quote is from people's of Middle Earth. it's tricky coz by the time the hobbit come along thorin and co are wanderes and because of this they have to unwillingly start using ponies and becoming mercenaries also which is also not dwarf like. I think we have to consider all the ages and with this not only Dwarves changed their ways. Thorins company also mounted the eagles unwillingly. at the same time I get what you saying
I would like to mention that he did specifically mention them not using animals in warfare so it's totally possible they would use them to carry goods. Hardy as they are even pack animals are needed for Dwarven loads (probably).
@@ImmortalChessDaily The first quote ('No Dwarf...') is from PoMe (Dwarves and Men ca. 1969).
I don't recall Tolkien writing about Dwarves becoming mercenaries, nor do the passages in LotR* and The Hobbit indicate any 'unwillingness'. Some disappointment at losing the use of Beorn's ponies (Gandalf: ""Now you must send back these excellent ponies you have borrowed.”
The dwarves were inclined to grumble at this, but the wizard told them they were fools." (TH, A Short Rest)).
*early passage with cart. Later Gimli seems reluctant "I wish I could walk and not bump like a sack at Gandalf’s saddlebow.’", "‘And a Dwarf is no horseman. It is orc-necks I would hew, not shave the scalps of Men,’".
@@hazey9514 While not using them in warfare (i.e. no cavalry) is consistant, the "nor did any ever harbour animals", is just a late inconsistancy.
Keeping beasts of burden (and even herds and flocks for food (when it can't be gotten through trade)), would seem more logical...
Did the elves eat the petty dwarves they hunted?
Dwarves are my favorite fantasy race be it Warhammer and Tolkien, always love me Dwarves
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Du Bekar!!!! To arms!
Is the script in this video made by chstgpt? It certainly feels like it.
I though Mim was the last petty dwarf.
I cannot help but notice the lady dwarf lacked a beard
Brothers of the mine rejoice!
I humbly beseech W&Ws, for the 144th day, for a Fraggle Rock lore video.
NICE
Continue the mongol series
Apparently its still in production
@@saratmodugu2721 thanks for letting me know
@@Staffbox2 this team really needs to make an alternative history channel honestly
I heard that dwarves would hunt and breed mountain goats for food
For food yes.. but to ride?? How many peoples irl actually were able to successfully use goats as beats of burden outside of Norse Myth? Not many Vikings or Germanic Tribes charged into battle in chariots drawn by goats lol. At least that I know of...😂😂😂
@@Not-Ap nah that’s Middle Earth though. I never heard anyone riding eagles irl
@@Emixam9090 True enough lol.
Wow. You guys cover a lot of lore. I have not heard anyone say that there were Dwarves who teamed up with Sauron in the East. I know most of the Dwarven Rings were in the Far East and they could never corrupt the Dwarves like the 9 Rings corrupted Men into Nazgul. So where can I find about these evil Dwarves that served Sauron and fought their kindred?
I suspect these guys are inferring it from passages like this:
"They [Goblins] did not hate dwarves especially, no more than they hated everybody and everything, and particularly the orderly and prosperous; in some parts wicked dwarves had even made alliances with them."
The Hobbit, Over Hill and Under Hill
...and from this about the Last Alliance:
"Of the Dwarves few fought upon either side; but the kindred of Durin of Moria fought against Sauron."
Silm, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age
@@Tar-Elenion
The thing is, I found some evidence of wicked Dwarves over at Tolkien Gateway, not that they are always right.
Personally, I can't see how any Dwarves would turn to evil, except for greed perhaps. But what could Sauron or Melkor offer them that they would be willing to kill other Dwarves for? It is unimaginable.
@@Enerdhil Across the books the stories only interact with 3 of the 7 houses of dwarves, we barely see or hear about the other 4 after their introduction due to how far to the east they reside. It is easy to assume these distant houses were more vulnerable to the influence of the dark lords of they sought them out. It is likely they had trade relations with the Easterlings which could further spread the corruption.
Also we do see evidence of them shifting towards evil on a few occasions in the books, but mostly in regards to greed and a grudge against elves, but those weaknesses are things that Sauron could have used to manipulate in to turning some to his side.
@@barethor5869
Well, Aulë created the Dwarves. He has a history of evil connected to him (Sauron, Saruman), so maybe Dwarves are capable of evil. I know they killed Elu Thingol and stole the Nauglamir they were commissioned to bind together with a Silmaril, but kill each other? The Dwarves of Belegost and Nogrod exiled bad Dwarves rather than kill them outright. Whether it is the Battle of Azanulbizar or Five Armies, Dwarves fight for each other. Dwarves should never ally with Sauron. He couldn't get them to obey him even when they were wearing Rings of Power he gave to them.
@Enerdhil Just because the dwarf lords were able to resist his influence from the rings doesn't mean all dwarves can. The dwarves were not a single united force, there is no guarantee that some weren't drawn in by his manipulation, feeding their greed and envy to turn them against the other dwarves. And that is all besides the fact that he could just capture some, enslave them, and force them to fight for him, as he has done with so many orcs and humans.
For rock and stone!
Eldar?
We actually prefer that we be called 'little people'
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Special one video xD
Wanted to like this video but there are too many mistakes, they need to go back and read the Silmarillion.
They took dragons too
Best fucking race bro.
Why does the narrator insist on saying "Dorves" not Dwarves?
LET'S GOO
are Dwarves warlike No not any more than humans
Will you do a topic on the Harry Potter series?
Send in the Goats
The dorfs.
Today's Word of the Day is "Aggrieved"
Never trust a pointed ear
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Dorfhacker...
Love all your stuff, and great video as always. But I really gotta say, that was the ugliest Thingol I have ever seen! I'm sure it was just a quickie made for that little animation but he looked more like ragged Denethor the Steward than one of the tallest, most noble King of Elves to ever have lived.
"Much enriched by immigrants" - very interesting use of phrasing there, especially in an inappropriate setting
ok
Dwarf women were not black.
And looked indistinguishable from Dwarf Men... which Dwaves loved... 😂