*"jalen green has been phenomenal for the Orlando magic in this specific role" Quotation marks are used to indicate a direct quote, transcribe speech to text. Take those quotation marks out its not a direct quote.
That is probably the best way to describe it. In hindsight, suggesting that the top 5 would be the best since LeBron/Carmelo/Bosh/Wade was a stretch, but it's a really deep class that I think still has a lot of all-NBA potential if these players are in a position to succeed.
Scottie is an A+. Everyone hated on the Raptors for picking him, but has turned out to be the best player from the class. ROTY, First All Star, Best Passer in the class, and easily the second best defender. Not to mention the highest offensive upside at this point being 240 6’9 with a jumper.
Şengün's someone who comes more equipped from every summer he had since he was 16. Three point's gonna come and I believe in the future, he'll solidify himself as the best of this class.
Sengun A+ is so spot on...A future HOFer in the making. I love his IQ, footwork and passing and that is not all of his good qualities, but they are so fun to watch.
@@cavslegend_dwade I don't know about that 2k stuff, but Sengun sure made Whemy & Chet look a fools. Go watch those games and see how he dominated them. Sengun is quicker and much better footwork than big centers...I don't see it being a big problem in his career.
Ok His all star was not deserved over some other players but yea he’s been really good. In the east I’d give Allen or Kp the nod over him and west is put Kyrie and Gobert and sengun and fox and sabonis and Ingram all over him. But he’s very good!
@@theeggreat4 modley is lucky to even still be called the best defender in the draft after this season. He gains such an advantage when JA is on the floor with him
Considering some of the players drafted in a similar range, picking up Cam Thomas and Dayron Sharpe for the Nets was impressive in the late parts of the draft.
Scottie should be an A+ but overall the grades were pretty spot on! Great to see a lot of these guys having breakout years (or in Jalen Green’s case a breakout “month” or so) can’t wait to see how good this class can become
As a rockets fan I could see why Garuba never really got a chance every time he stepped on the court he looked like a uncoordinated football player that doesn’t even play basketball
The video that came out of Josh Christopher and Jalen Green is literally the only reason Jay Gup isn’t in the league rn. Should at least be on a two-way.
As a Hornets fan…. Bouknight is a very frustrating pick, we needed a big man and at the time watching mocks and stuff I always thought it was a no brainer drafting sengun and it turns out it should have, I hate the team I root for 😭
Bro - Ayo Dosunmu was amazing value. Sure, he's not All NBA, but any time you get an extended bit of play from a second round pick in the NBA, you need to call it out!
NBA drafted players get better after year three only for players who work hard in the offseason on their game like Shagun in Houston and Wagner in Orlando, but if they spend their offseason partying then you see what you see
I think next year Jaylen Johnson will get an A+ if u redo this next year. He’s been arguably our second best player all year and at times has looked like our best
And even if u took other guys drafted outside the lottery like cam , sengun , jalen , and even grimes over him he would still fall to 13 - 15 at the furthest
Cade at his apex is gonna be a fantastic number 2 option on a championship level team. Hes gonna have to leave the pistons to do it. But he’s really really good
How are there so many As and Bs? There is no clear star player like Luka, Ant, Zion, Ja, or even Paolo Banchero in this draft. Definitely a solid draft, but some of these grades seem a tad generous.
@6ixman485 and cade has better stats than both of them in a worse situation . For sure theirs stars in this draft i would argue cade and scottie have superstar in their future
A few disagreements: - pistons drafting Cade: B+ why? they had the #1 pick, they did not draft the best player in the class. If would be an A if they did draft the best player in their class. There is AT LEAST 2 players that are "better" than Cade right now and thats Scottie Barnes & Alperin Sengun. Cade as a player is a B+ Not sure if he's the guy to build around considering he's injury prone & a lot of people say he doesnt play winning basketball. If you were to swap cade for scottie or sengun they would probably get the pistons more wins but still dont think anybody in this draft class can take the pistons to the playoffs this season with this terrible roster. A lot of people view him as a zach lavine, KAT, PG13 player who is good and can make an all star team but will never win you a title or carry you far in the playoffs or even make the playoffs every year consistently. - orlando drafting jalen suggs: C+/B- why? they had the #5 pick and they drafted somebody that cant shoot and isnt much of a scorer in the nba level. Great defender, rebounder, hustles, puts a lot of effort on the defensive end every game, great "glue guy" for a team. He's almost the equivalent of a alex caruso type of player. You dont draft an alex caruso type of player at #5. Maybe at #15 or later down the draft but def not at #5. There's a whole bunch of players after him that is better like kumiga (7), Franz Wagner (8) they did draft him so thats good, Sengun (16), Trey Murphy III (17), Jalen Johnson (20) this year has taken massive leap, Cam Thomas (27). However, I still feel jalen suggs can improve a lot on the offensive end of his game in maybe 5 or 6 years from now. I would give this an A+ if Jalen Suggs can convince his cousin, Tyrese Haliburton, to one day sign with Orlando. Haliburton did say at one time that he would like to team up with his cousin in the nba. I dont see the pacers giving up Haliburton any time soon unless Haliburton openly says he wont play for the pacers anymore but its unlikely since he doesnt seem to have that type of personality and his team is pretty good right now with a lot of flexibility. - OKC drafting josh giddey: C. Drafted at #6. He cant shoot & cant defend. Great playmaker though. His stats have gone down in almost every category this season. Maybe its a mental thing he's going through with his off the court drama involving him dating & having sex with a minor -__- Its a C grade because it feels like OKC does not want him in their long term plans and he's most likely going to be part of a package used to be traded for a star in the near future. Even if he does improve & becomes as good as a Lonzo Ball type of player, that probably wont happen with him playing for OKC and for that I give this grade a C because he wont be in the team's long term future. Seems almost like a waste of a pick at #6. Im not sure if the team wants to resign him considering they have so many future 1st round picks he is easily replaceable. - Kings drafting Davion Mitchell: D. Drafted at #9 by the kings. What were they thinking?!??! this was draft malpractice. Whoever decided to draft davion mitchell should've been fired. I give this a D because all the red flags were there prior to the draft. He's an older player that spent 4 years in college only to average 9 ppg in college haha, he's undersize at only 6 ft tall, he wasnt a great shooter or much of a scorer in college although his 3 point % in his final year in college improved, and what made it worse was at the time drafting him the Kings already had 2 other point guards in Fox and Haliburton. Out of them 3 they chose to get rid of Haliburton. If I remember correctly, the pacers were willing to accept either fox, haliburton, or davion mitchell + several future 1st round picks in exchange for Sabonis. The kings chose to give up haliburton TERRIBLE. Kings must've fell in love with davion mitchell during march madness because his team, Baylor, won the NCAA tournament that year and how in all his interviews Davion Mitchell kept saying in all his life in w/e team he has been on they end up winning from little league basketball, high school, college, and then even in the nba summer league the Kings won the summer league that year. They really thought they drafted a game changing winner so it must've been another reason why they decided to trade away Haliburton instead. - Grizzlies drafting Ziaire Williams: F. Drafted at #10. He's just a terrible nba player. Does not seem like he'll last long in the nba. Not much more I can say about this. He's playing like somebody that should've been drafted at #40 or lower. Those type of players dont last long in the nba and end up being bounced around from team to team before they are eventually out the league. This might be Ziarire's future in the nba if he doesnt show improvement in any area of his stats. This season would've been a good time for him to show something since his whole dam team is injured, unfortunately he's been injured too.
@@rico2staxx no he isnt. Cade is not better than sengun and barnes. They arent that much better than him, but those 2 players I've listed have shown more improvement than cade so far.
As a W's fan we've totally messed up Moody. He doesn't have the trust of Kerr to get regular rotation minutes but has enough to play 30 minutes a night in the playoffs and excel.... I'd give him a B off of what he can/would immediately do in a different situation. And for the record, Kerr is a good to great coach. This is his greatest shortcoming yet. Kuminga's forced his hand and is playing the minutes he should now at least.
I just find it funny that last season ppl called scottie a bust because his stats stagnated, meanwhile mobley has the same stats as his rookie year and hes still a “B+”
If this turn from Jalen Green is real (the reads and defense make me think it may be), he'll by far be the best pick in this draft. With him and Sengun, the Rockets look like they will be a force.
Most of the players are lacking the fundamentals of the game like passing and shooting and rebounding and defense, all of them are good athletes and run fast and jump high
As a rockets fan a B plus is fair for Jalen he just been inconsistent his entire career but it didn’t help he had Slias as a head coach and the environment around him was terrible similar to Cade. But I think he can be a really good player under Ime I think with him we are seeing and are going to continue to get the best version of Jalen Green. Sengun an A plus the dude is fantastic as long as he can continue to be a average defender under Ime he going to be a multiple time all start in the next couple of years
I agree Kuminga is way better and I like Giddey’s recent play. I think there is a decent chance Kuminga is the best player of the entire class longterm he’s just on the Warriors and very young so his full upside is not yet on display
Cade Cunningham leads the worst team into the most consecutive losses in NBA history. I'm gonna give this draft pick a "A" Jalen Green is inconsistent, but just went on a 11 game win streak after losing his best teammate and learning under a new coach. I'm gonna give this draft pick a "F". He needs to become a MVP, Finals MVP, and 8x champion before i can move this up to a "D"
Look at Cade’s team. You can replace him with anyone else from his draft class, and they’d still be dogshit. And plus, he’s a playmaker, so you could argue his true talents would be better showcased if he was on a competent nba team.
@@obi3924 I like Cade and i think he will be great. Just criticizing the grade. I would've given both Jalen and Cade a B. They are both still figuring it out, the potential is definitely there.
@@daviddomingo425Cade is better then Jalen we’re not just skipping past the majority of the season for a couple good weeks, Jalen green was statistically the worst starter in the league for most of the season you can’t just push that to the side
Top 8 in this draft all look like they’ll be very good nba players. Not sure if there’s been another draft where all top 8 picks all look like they’ve been nailed
Steff Curry work on his game all the time, so is all the great like Labron James and Dirk Noviski and Jokic and Kevin Durant except Shaq who refused to work on his free throws in the offseason
Cade has only played 137 games... and he dumped in 36 tonight. He isn't going to be a "really good" player. He is going to be 1st team all NBA. 22.7 4.5 7.5 right now. Pencil in 27-6-9 for next year.
Mobley and Green getting the same Grade has got to be a joke. I understand JG has been great recently, but recency bias is kicking ass here, just a month ago people were talking about him being on the verge of becoming a bust. Mobley has been good to very good consistently, and I dont get how he isnt an A.
@@G-MAN-r2nwhat if I told you Mobley is shooting better from 3 this season than Cade and green. Give Mobley the first option treatment and he is easily averaging 25 and 12 per game. People who say his game hasn’t improved do not watch Cavs games
Imo U should be grading these guys on how they've been their first 3 seasons not how much potential they have how they project etc. Regrading is about what they've done not what they could do. And that's why all the grades are honestly a tad high
Scottie Barnes not being A+ shows how the other 29 teams view the raptors. He’s been an A+ pick since his rookie year. And the only allstar from this draft class! What more does he need to do 😭😭😭
Giving Cade an A after he's done literally nothing to show for it in his 3rd year is a take. At some point you need to stop grading on what someone "can be" vs what they have shown you. He's not even the 5th best player in this draft and never will be.
lol so you get the ROY, and 3rd year all star from pick 4 and its not a A+. A point foward that can defend all 5 positions and shoot 35% from three (Was 38%+ before his hand injury which then got worse). 2nd best defender, best passer, and 3 level scoring upside and isn't a A+ from the 4th overall pick is insane.
In the end does it matter scottie and cade are far and away the best players from the draft but senguns an a+ lol cade literally has the best stats of anyone from that draft in the absolute worst situation . Scottie is a great prototypical poi t forward everyonw wants . If he can score 25 pg efficiently hes probably a top 20 player . Basically almsot kawhi at that point . Cade is gonna have a bannans year just watch 26 5 9 on 47 38 89 shooting
@@adamperry4216 100% Cade is a great player, but for a top pick so far he can't be considered a A+ considering from the 1st overall picks of the last 5 years he is the worst. Scottie is the best 4th overall pick of the last 5 drafts and 2nd best in the last 15 years hence why its a A+ pick. Sengun is 100% a A+ a borderline all star lvl C at pick 16 is insane.
@warshawgameshd3432 hes not worse than paolo and saying hes not as good as ant wemby and zion isnt exactly harsh critiscm . Considering hes played less than 2 years total game time and the situation hes in with that team the only players i can say for sure today are better than him are ant an zion . Wemby is probably more valuable overall too cause his defense and rim protection zion is ...i guess hes better ut hes hurt way more even than cade . Im not saying hes not amazing when hes out there but this year he wasnt much better
@@adamperry4216 I don't think you understand.. A+ means for the position they were picked how good did they turn out.. It doesn't matter if hes worse or equal to paolo, he hasn't shown anything exponential for a 1st overall pick.. Wemby is better lol its not even a debate his team is also ass but he was in DPOY convo's and average like 25 and 10 on a minutes restriction at the end of the season.. At best Cade is above paolo but how is that then a A+ pick?
@warshawgameshd3432 ok i didnt understand the positional value portion of it and yeah wemby was better did i not say that ? When i said i guess it was me kind of thinking out loud going down the list and wemby was 21 10 an 4 on 30 minutes . I guess thats minutes restriction but idk how many more minutes your ever gonna play an7 foot 5 guy . Average minutes for a high useage guard is 33 to 35 . Anyway i think we are arguing semantics and my point was for cade to be 4th out of 5 on that list isnt bad considering how good the last 5 first picks are . Thats a pretty historic run withno busts i cant think off hand whos between fultz and zion but fultz is the last bust i can think of . I guess id argue against those 5 cade hasnt done anything special as a 5 but thats a pretty special group of 5 ben simmons then fultz 2 busts in a year despite a promisisng start to simmons career you cant do anything but call that a bust ayton bust for a no 1 . Then boom zion ant cade paolo wemby . I have a feeling 2025 is gonna produce a bust though .
"Jalen Green Has Played A solid role for the magic"😂😂😂
*"jalen green has been phenomenal for the Orlando magic in this specific role" Quotation marks are used to indicate a direct quote, transcribe speech to text. Take those quotation marks out its not a direct quote.
Almost as good as Anthony Reaves
@@jessicarukuata-joynson938 you must be fun at parties
@@jessicarukuata-joynson938 shut up teacher
@@jessicarukuata-joynson938 🤓☝🏻
This class is certainly a late bloomer sleeper class.
Nah, most people said this was the best draft class for a while before the 2021-22 season even started
Liked booknight but off the court stuff 😫
Stfu you said that😂@@kingdinodragonite3470
That is probably the best way to describe it. In hindsight, suggesting that the top 5 would be the best since LeBron/Carmelo/Bosh/Wade was a stretch, but it's a really deep class that I think still has a lot of all-NBA potential if these players are in a position to succeed.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 yea but some of them did bloom late like jalen green wasn’t playing that good but now he balling out
Scottie is an A+. Everyone hated on the Raptors for picking him, but has turned out to be the best player from the class. ROTY, First All Star, Best Passer in the class, and easily the second best defender. Not to mention the highest offensive upside at this point being 240 6’9 with a jumper.
Raptors Coach: “SCOTTIE BARNES IS GOING TO BE FACE OF LEAGUE!!!”
He’s being slightly overrated now but as a draft pick he’s for sure at least a A!
Best passer is a stretch for sure
I would argue Cade is still the number 1 draft pick.
Replacement all star and he in the East. Scottie is a solid B
Şengün's someone who comes more equipped from every summer he had since he was 16. Three point's gonna come and I believe in the future, he'll solidify himself as the best of this class.
Scottie not being an A+ is a war crime
Great grade for Jalen id maybe go B hard to say he hasn’t given a big sample size of consistent play
S in March B- otherwise
Scottie is 101% a A+ bc everyone despised this pick at the time, and is now probably the best player in this draft class as a great 2-way player.
Jk?
@@DeboraThomas-c9care you implying JK should be a A+ or that he’s better than Scottie
Sengun A+ is so spot on...A future HOFer in the making. I love his IQ, footwork and passing and that is not all of his good qualities, but they are so fun to watch.
True but in 2k his kryptonite is tall centers
@@cavslegend_dwade I don't know about that 2k stuff, but Sengun sure made Whemy & Chet look a fools. Go watch those games and see how he dominated them. Sengun is quicker and much better footwork than big centers...I don't see it being a big problem in his career.
Scottie A+ easily. First allstar, roty, best playmaker by far, most versatile defender
Ok
His all star was not deserved over some other players but yea he’s been really good.
In the east I’d give Allen or Kp the nod over him and west is put Kyrie and Gobert and sengun and fox and sabonis and Ingram all over him.
But he’s very good!
@@spidamitchell8311 well good thing he doesn’t play in the west buddy so that means nothing😂. Also Allen and KP over Scottie is straight comedy
@@bryce____1114he’s not the most versatile defender that would be the 7’0 that defends on the perimeter with ease.
@@theeggreat4 modley is lucky to even still be called the best defender in the draft after this season. He gains such an advantage when JA is on the floor with him
@@bryce____1114 he’s a true power forward on defense just not one on offense
So glad Sengun has been recognized as an A+
this draft was so underrated
IMO i think 2020 draft is underrated. Everybody wrote them off as nobodies and the "lamelo sweepstake"
Alperen is a great player and happy.. A++
Considering some of the players drafted in a similar range, picking up Cam Thomas and Dayron Sharpe for the Nets was impressive in the late parts of the draft.
Scottie should be an A+ but overall the grades were pretty spot on! Great to see a lot of these guys having breakout years (or in Jalen Green’s case a breakout “month” or so) can’t wait to see how good this class can become
Jalen Green my fav Orlando Magic!
As a Spurs fan ive always skipped the 2021 draft regrades. But after Wemby I finally feel strong enough to click 😂
Nice
Coulda had Sengun or Jalen Johnson...sickening miss
@@gremlinmachineshop honestly with this team Trey Murphy would’ve been elite… our starting small forward is Julian Champagnie
@@justinbires6283 true fr
4:05 I didnt know Jalen Green played for the Magic lol
he gets around, ask his baby mamas ;)
As a rockets fan I could see why Garuba never really got a chance every time he stepped on the court he looked like a uncoordinated football player that doesn’t even play basketball
Yep but at the same time he could have been a defensive dog just like Tari if we stuck with him
The video that came out of Josh Christopher and Jalen Green is literally the only reason Jay Gup isn’t in the league rn. Should at least be on a two-way.
As a hornets fan I’m dying right now , that was the worst draft ever 😂
The 2020s have not been good for us
As a hornets fan the organization didn’t put bouknight in the best situation to succeed
@@daakhi4p813 Yeah but he DUI and Kai Jones had so much drama out of basketball, that’s what I’m talking about
As a Hornets fan…. Bouknight is a very frustrating pick, we needed a big man and at the time watching mocks and stuff I always thought it was a no brainer drafting sengun and it turns out it should have, I hate the team I root for 😭
Giddey has been on a tear lately. Remembered he’s actually good at basketball.
Bro - Ayo Dosunmu was amazing value. Sure, he's not All NBA, but any time you get an extended bit of play from a second round pick in the NBA, you need to call it out!
I don’t see how jalen green and evan mobley have the same grade. evan almost won dpoy last year and jalen has. had one really good month this season
Cade had a monster 38pt game shortly after this video dropped 😂
Funny. Keke Cunningham, Jaylen Green, Scotty Barnes. Your chapters are hilarious
not having jalen as an A😂😂😂
It is funny that the great Magic Johnson said in an interview he was asking his teammates to work on their game in the offseason
I think when you do these, you should do a redraft at the end of the video to see where they’d be drafted if the draft was today
Sengun was right there for my spurs, but we reach on primo 😞😞
Bruh y’all got wemby i was sad we missed out on wemby i like amen tho
@@SweetLou428could you imagine this team with Wemby, we would be 3 or 4 seed. Amen has been good but Wemby would have made us a contender.
NBA drafted players get better after year three only for players who work hard in the offseason on their game like Shagun in Houston and Wagner in Orlando, but if they spend their offseason partying then you see what you see
Shocked you listed Wagner and not Barnes when Wagner has barely improved since his 1st year
I think next year Jaylen Johnson will get an A+ if u redo this next year. He’s been arguably our second best player all year and at times has looked like our best
Crazy how Austin reaves who went undrafted would be a lottery pick in a re draft
he really wouldn't lol
@@jaylee2577 he’s better then Davion Zaire primo Duarte moody bouknight lol
@@yrgminion5773 you said lottery... Of this draft class lol
And even if u took other guys drafted outside the lottery like cam , sengun , jalen , and even grimes over him he would still fall to 13 - 15 at the furthest
@@jaylee2577I said In a re draft
How is Scottie not an A+ lol
Fr 😭 shown he's the best in the class so far and wasn't even first pick
He could be, was going back and forth. I still like Cade over Scottie long term so I didn’t want to make Scottie a higher grade than Cade
@@takoda100Cade is easily the best in the pick you don't see it because the environment is bad.
@@Sros1 but scottie was the 4th pick and perceived as a reach, i think it warrants an A+
Wow.sorry but Cade over scottie nope 🙅♂️
Cade at his apex is gonna be a fantastic number 2 option on a championship level team. Hes gonna have to leave the pistons to do it. But he’s really really good
One of the best draft classes in the last 500 Years
scottie A+. no one thought scottie was the right pick and hes easily the best in the whole class.
jalen green 4, evan mobley 4, scotie barnes 4, jalen suggs 4. why all are 4
Giddy with a B+ is more than fair. I was expecting closer to a B-/C as a Thunder fan. He's considered the weak link on a good team.
How are there so many As and Bs? There is no clear star player like Luka, Ant, Zion, Ja, or even Paolo Banchero in this draft. Definitely a solid draft, but some of these grades seem a tad generous.
Cade and Paolo are basically the same level of player, and Scottie and Sengun are already all star caliber players
um did you not watch the all star game? Scottie is a star and him a Paolo are equal. Paolo has a better situation
@6ixman485 and cade has better stats than both of them in a worse situation . For sure theirs stars in this draft i would argue cade and scottie have superstar in their future
A few disagreements:
- pistons drafting Cade: B+ why? they had the #1 pick, they did not draft the best player in the class. If would be an A if they did draft the best player in their class. There is AT LEAST 2 players that are "better" than Cade right now and thats Scottie Barnes & Alperin Sengun. Cade as a player is a B+ Not sure if he's the guy to build around considering he's injury prone & a lot of people say he doesnt play winning basketball. If you were to swap cade for scottie or sengun they would probably get the pistons more wins but still dont think anybody in this draft class can take the pistons to the playoffs this season with this terrible roster. A lot of people view him as a zach lavine, KAT, PG13 player who is good and can make an all star team but will never win you a title or carry you far in the playoffs or even make the playoffs every year consistently.
- orlando drafting jalen suggs: C+/B- why? they had the #5 pick and they drafted somebody that cant shoot and isnt much of a scorer in the nba level. Great defender, rebounder, hustles, puts a lot of effort on the defensive end every game, great "glue guy" for a team. He's almost the equivalent of a alex caruso type of player. You dont draft an alex caruso type of player at #5. Maybe at #15 or later down the draft but def not at #5. There's a whole bunch of players after him that is better like kumiga (7), Franz Wagner (8) they did draft him so thats good, Sengun (16), Trey Murphy III (17), Jalen Johnson (20) this year has taken massive leap, Cam Thomas (27). However, I still feel jalen suggs can improve a lot on the offensive end of his game in maybe 5 or 6 years from now. I would give this an A+ if Jalen Suggs can convince his cousin, Tyrese Haliburton, to one day sign with Orlando. Haliburton did say at one time that he would like to team up with his cousin in the nba. I dont see the pacers giving up Haliburton any time soon unless Haliburton openly says he wont play for the pacers anymore but its unlikely since he doesnt seem to have that type of personality and his team is pretty good right now with a lot of flexibility.
- OKC drafting josh giddey: C. Drafted at #6. He cant shoot & cant defend. Great playmaker though. His stats have gone down in almost every category this season. Maybe its a mental thing he's going through with his off the court drama involving him dating & having sex with a minor -__- Its a C grade because it feels like OKC does not want him in their long term plans and he's most likely going to be part of a package used to be traded for a star in the near future. Even if he does improve & becomes as good as a Lonzo Ball type of player, that probably wont happen with him playing for OKC and for that I give this grade a C because he wont be in the team's long term future. Seems almost like a waste of a pick at #6. Im not sure if the team wants to resign him considering they have so many future 1st round picks he is easily replaceable.
- Kings drafting Davion Mitchell: D. Drafted at #9 by the kings. What were they thinking?!??! this was draft malpractice. Whoever decided to draft davion mitchell should've been fired. I give this a D because all the red flags were there prior to the draft. He's an older player that spent 4 years in college only to average 9 ppg in college haha, he's undersize at only 6 ft tall, he wasnt a great shooter or much of a scorer in college although his 3 point % in his final year in college improved, and what made it worse was at the time drafting him the Kings already had 2 other point guards in Fox and Haliburton. Out of them 3 they chose to get rid of Haliburton. If I remember correctly, the pacers were willing to accept either fox, haliburton, or davion mitchell + several future 1st round picks in exchange for Sabonis. The kings chose to give up haliburton TERRIBLE. Kings must've fell in love with davion mitchell during march madness because his team, Baylor, won the NCAA tournament that year and how in all his interviews Davion Mitchell kept saying in all his life in w/e team he has been on they end up winning from little league basketball, high school, college, and then even in the nba summer league the Kings won the summer league that year. They really thought they drafted a game changing winner so it must've been another reason why they decided to trade away Haliburton instead.
- Grizzlies drafting Ziaire Williams: F. Drafted at #10. He's just a terrible nba player. Does not seem like he'll last long in the nba. Not much more I can say about this. He's playing like somebody that should've been drafted at #40 or lower. Those type of players dont last long in the nba and end up being bounced around from team to team before they are eventually out the league. This might be Ziarire's future in the nba if he doesnt show improvement in any area of his stats. This season would've been a good time for him to show something since his whole dam team is injured, unfortunately he's been injured too.
A whole bunch of yappin. Cade was and still the best player in his draft class
@@rico2staxx no he isnt. Cade is not better than sengun and barnes. They arent that much better than him, but those 2 players I've listed have shown more improvement than cade so far.
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Jalen Suggs is an A. I live in the O and only heard he does his job highly well. Every team would love a Jalen Suggs.
As a W's fan we've totally messed up Moody. He doesn't have the trust of Kerr to get regular rotation minutes but has enough to play 30 minutes a night in the playoffs and excel.... I'd give him a B off of what he can/would immediately do in a different situation.
And for the record, Kerr is a good to great coach. This is his greatest shortcoming yet. Kuminga's forced his hand and is playing the minutes he should now at least.
not even kidding, i’m still kinda high on kai jones. look at that athleticism man. imagine if he gets into the right system
You’re high in a guy that any team in the league coulda signed, but didn’t.
Giddey doesnt get a B+ from me. Ill take Kuminga and Franz over him and they were the next two picks.
Mobley ain't no B plus.
Drafted the pick before Scottie Barnes. And refuses to get better.
C plus at best.
Even if he refuses to get better he is still a all league defender.
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watch cavs games
@@loscrap i do
I just find it funny that last season ppl called scottie a bust because his stats stagnated, meanwhile mobley has the same stats as his rookie year and hes still a “B+”
I think Giddey’s form might have dropped away for a reason 🤔 I still give him an A
2021 draft class is so underrated
how is sengun not long term???😂😂😂
U like Cade more later down the line then Sengun ? Sengun gon have a better career and it’s not close
Can you do 2011?
And other drafts as well!
If this turn from Jalen Green is real (the reads and defense make me think it may be), he'll by far be the best pick in this draft.
With him and Sengun, the Rockets look like they will be a force.
Most of the players are lacking the fundamentals of the game like passing and shooting and rebounding and defense, all of them are good athletes and run fast and jump high
As a rockets fan a B plus is fair for Jalen he just been inconsistent his entire career but it didn’t help he had Slias as a head coach and the environment around him was terrible similar to Cade.
But I think he can be a really good player under Ime I think with him we are seeing and are going to continue to get the best version of Jalen Green.
Sengun an A plus the dude is fantastic as long as he can continue to be a average defender under Ime he going to be a multiple time all start in the next couple of years
Matt curious how would Cade be an A+ if he had made an all star appearance but Scottie is still only an A having been an all star already and more ?
He has a better team
4:05 Jalen green has been phenomenal for thee orlando magic
😅
Giddy and kuminga having the same grade is odd especially since giddy is trending down and kuminga is breaking out
I agree Kuminga is way better and I like Giddey’s recent play. I think there is a decent chance Kuminga is the best player of the entire class longterm he’s just on the Warriors and very young so his full upside is not yet on display
Green is easily best player in the draft so far! A+ for rockets for pick him😊
Sengun is better.
@@davidagledhill I hope, but he is under sized for a center
Not even top 5 bro, it goes scottie, cade, sengun, kuminga, mobley
scottie is an A+
Cade Cunningham leads the worst team into the most consecutive losses in NBA history. I'm gonna give this draft pick a "A"
Jalen Green is inconsistent, but just went on a 11 game win streak after losing his best teammate and learning under a new coach. I'm gonna give this draft pick a "F". He needs to become a MVP, Finals MVP, and 8x champion before i can move this up to a "D"
Look at Cade’s team. You can replace him with anyone else from his draft class, and they’d still be dogshit. And plus, he’s a playmaker, so you could argue his true talents would be better showcased if he was on a competent nba team.
@@obi3924 I like Cade and i think he will be great. Just criticizing the grade.
I would've given both Jalen and Cade a B.
They are both still figuring it out, the potential is definitely there.
@@daviddomingo425Cade is better then Jalen we’re not just skipping past the majority of the season for a couple good weeks, Jalen green was statistically the worst starter in the league for most of the season you can’t just push that to the side
You said Sengun gets your only A+ but then cam Thomas gets an A+ Lol
Josh Primo is the most idiotic pick of that year
Steve kerr did a terrible job with Moody and kuminga. It took kuminga saying he isn't happy with his role before kerr gave him valuable minutes
How are we mentioning off the court issues and not at least lumping Giddey in that category?
4:05 ah yes my favorite magic player, Jalen green.
Top 8 in this draft all look like they’ll be very good nba players. Not sure if there’s been another draft where all top 8 picks all look like they’ve been nailed
C+ for Moody is a bit harsh imo, would give him a B- or B
2021 draft was loaded!!!! I’d still take Cade #1. Cade is a stud when healthy and just needs some help. Huge fan of Suggs also. Stud 3&D player.
To all the Scottie Barnes fans tell him to win some games first. Team looked like the Pistons with just him out there.
giving A to cade and B+ to jalen is absurd jalen is clearly a better player than cade, no impact and injury prone
Steff Curry work on his game all the time, so is all the great like Labron James and Dirk Noviski and Jokic and Kevin Durant except Shaq who refused to work on his free throws in the offseason
Jalen Green playing well for both the Rockets and Magic warrants an A
Cade has only played 137 games... and he dumped in 36 tonight. He isn't going to be a "really good" player. He is going to be 1st team all NBA. 22.7 4.5 7.5 right now. Pencil in 27-6-9 for next year.
Mobley and Green getting the same Grade has got to be a joke. I understand JG has been great recently, but recency bias is kicking ass here, just a month ago people were talking about him being on the verge of becoming a bust. Mobley has been good to very good consistently, and I dont get how he isnt an A.
Mobley definitely isn’t consistent his offensive game hasn’t really improved
@@G-MAN-r2n since when has it been "not improving = being inconsistent"?
@@adrzn-pq8ws I never said that I said he isn’t consistent and that he has not improved his offensive game
@@G-MAN-r2nwhat if I told you Mobley is shooting better from 3 this season than Cade and green. Give Mobley the first option treatment and he is easily averaging 25 and 12 per game. People who say his game hasn’t improved do not watch Cavs games
@@HJ17GAMING you do realize Cade and Jalen green shoot higher volume 3s than Mobley. Mobley is only attempting 1 3 per game
Like the respect to Sengun
Jalen Green has been really good for the magic
How is Scottie not an A+
Case reminds me of Booker
James Bouknight was waived as well
Imo U should be grading these guys on how they've been their first 3 seasons not how much potential they have how they project etc.
Regrading is about what they've done not what they could do.
And that's why all the grades are honestly a tad high
G league drafted players seem to end up as fairly inconsistent players. We’ll see how they develop. Maybe going with a college player is a better bet
Jalen green has been great for the magic huh
Jonathan Kumniga should be an A. He’s great for the warriors
lol
Keep it coming
Under graded Mobley he playing wit garland and Mitchell he don’t have to carry on offense
Scottie Barnes not being A+ shows how the other 29 teams view the raptors. He’s been an A+ pick since his rookie year. And the only allstar from this draft class! What more does he need to do 😭😭😭
Giving Cade an A after he's done literally nothing to show for it in his 3rd year is a take.
At some point you need to stop grading on what someone "can be" vs what they have shown you. He's not even the 5th best player in this draft and never will be.
Definitely an A+ for Cam Thomas being drafted at 7th!
lol so you get the ROY, and 3rd year all star from pick 4 and its not a A+.
A point foward that can defend all 5 positions and shoot 35% from three (Was 38%+ before his hand injury which then got worse).
2nd best defender, best passer, and 3 level scoring upside and isn't a A+ from the 4th overall pick is insane.
In the end does it matter scottie and cade are far and away the best players from the draft but senguns an a+ lol cade literally has the best stats of anyone from that draft in the absolute worst situation . Scottie is a great prototypical poi t forward everyonw wants . If he can score 25 pg efficiently hes probably a top 20 player . Basically almsot kawhi at that point . Cade is gonna have a bannans year just watch 26 5 9 on 47 38 89 shooting
@@adamperry4216 100% Cade is a great player, but for a top pick so far he can't be considered a A+ considering from the 1st overall picks of the last 5 years he is the worst.
Scottie is the best 4th overall pick of the last 5 drafts and 2nd best in the last 15 years hence why its a A+ pick.
Sengun is 100% a A+ a borderline all star lvl C at pick 16 is insane.
@warshawgameshd3432 hes not worse than paolo and saying hes not as good as ant wemby and zion isnt exactly harsh critiscm . Considering hes played less than 2 years total game time and the situation hes in with that team the only players i can say for sure today are better than him are ant an zion . Wemby is probably more valuable overall too cause his defense and rim protection zion is ...i guess hes better ut hes hurt way more even than cade . Im not saying hes not amazing when hes out there but this year he wasnt much better
@@adamperry4216 I don't think you understand..
A+ means for the position they were picked how good did they turn out..
It doesn't matter if hes worse or equal to paolo, he hasn't shown anything exponential for a 1st overall pick..
Wemby is better lol its not even a debate his team is also ass but he was in DPOY convo's and average like 25 and 10 on a minutes restriction at the end of the season..
At best Cade is above paolo but how is that then a A+ pick?
@warshawgameshd3432 ok i didnt understand the positional value portion of it and yeah wemby was better did i not say that ? When i said i guess it was me kind of thinking out loud going down the list and wemby was 21 10 an 4 on 30 minutes . I guess thats minutes restriction but idk how many more minutes your ever gonna play an7 foot 5 guy . Average minutes for a high useage guard is 33 to 35 . Anyway i think we are arguing semantics and my point was for cade to be 4th out of 5 on that list isnt bad considering how good the last 5 first picks are . Thats a pretty historic run withno busts i cant think off hand whos between fultz and zion but fultz is the last bust i can think of . I guess id argue against those 5 cade hasnt done anything special as a 5 but thats a pretty special group of 5 ben simmons then fultz 2 busts in a year despite a promisisng start to simmons career you cant do anything but call that a bust ayton bust for a no 1 . Then boom zion ant cade paolo wemby . I have a feeling 2025 is gonna produce a bust though .
Redrafting 2023 draft 1-30 pls
Ah yes Jalen Green my fav player on Orlando Magic
Sros who do you want to bounce back out of the low graded players
Moody and Mitchell for sure
Jalen Suggs and green are interchangeable
You do not talk about Neemy
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Primo would’ve been good if he stayed with spurs but had to be a freak
Jalen should be at least an A
4:06 you said Jaylen Green, but I know you ment Suggs, just wanted to point that out
It’s what they are now not what they are going to be.