It would win Super Nice in bike vault on the Tech Show, but not on the app. I’ve noticed that in the app, no bikes with round frame tubes and shallow rims ever get a super nice, no matter how much more beautiful they are than all of the rebadged plastic frames and rims from China. . I suspect that many of the app users never even watch the channel. . Just look at the staggering number of bike vault submissions that feature the non-drive side of the bike and all of the bags and accessories still cluttering up the machine.
That's a blast from the past! I remember seeing Hinault and LeMond on that frameset back in the mid 80s riding in the Coors Classic. I saw them in Sacramento and San Francisco.
I loved this La Vie Claire team and bikes so much back in the mid 80,s that i also now have a team replica that i have built up. It is an absolute dream to ride and no matter how "great" people think "modern" bikes are.....nothing comes close to the pleasure and admiring looks and comments that i get when i ride such an iconic and stylish machine as this bike. Every mile is a smile :)
Absolutely stunning 🤩 can’t wait to see more of the collection in depth. Those water bottles are as rare as chickens teeth. I’m currently restoring and putting together an actual Greg Lemond team for the channel. Great content as always thanks and all the best Andy
nice one guys. I reckon there should be a number plate hanger though just behind the headtube underneath the top tube. And those are actually the MKII Look pedals. The MKI Look pedals were white and a bit sharper on the edges.
@@pkelly20091 Correct, although 23 was the biggest sprocket they dared use for a very long time. Still no mean feat to climb with those ratios though. Gear selection has indeed come a long way. In the very early years, it was a novelty (which then became the norm until the derailleur was invented), to have a back wheel fitted with two different size sprockets, one on each side of the wheel. At the bottom of a steep and long climb (like the alps), they would stop and turn the wheel around to use a lower ratio for climbing. Once at the top, they would repeat this procedure before descending to revert to their preferred racing ratio. I would love to see their reaction if they could see today's Di2 system with a 12 sprocket cassette.... True pioneers those cyclists were!!!
@@albertogomes6262 The whole thing that surprised me the most about this bike isn't the weight but the horrible gear ratio and how uncomfortable it seems to be, mostly for those huge climbs in France! Now on my 2019 bike I have "Ultegra R8000 Di2, Hydraulic Brakes, 28mm tubeless, 11-34T cassette, 3.2mm Lizard Skin bartape, etc etc..." :o I would die to ride 4H on such old bike.
I was wearing my La Vie Claire jersey a bit over a week ago and rode past a family. Heard the woman say to her husband, "would you wear that?. HIs immediate response, "#$@% no..." I turned around and waved and said you don't have to I will. Plonkers these days.
Had this one since 1988. High School grad present Ill be riding my first L' Eroica with It this year. The difference is mine has Deltas and a Concor saddle. I never stopped riding it though. So it has plenty of " dings" and scrapes
Those are the bikes of my day! A nice reproduction. However you probably should have mentioned that the bike Hinault would have ridden, while not easily distinguishable with the naked eye, would have been quite different. He rode custom frames repainted in team livery. His frames tended to have slack seat tubes (71 to 72 degrees compared to the normal 74 of the time) and significantly longer top tubes. Also, he liked a slightly lower bottom bracket for stability on descents. I guess nowadays with space aged frames, the sizes are the sizes and everything must be adjusted with component adjustments. It's just as well. Hinault still would have been a winner on a stock bike. I think the custom thing was little more than a placebo.
beautiful when bikes were bikes style, class la vie claire used this bike mainly on the flat, switching to the look KG 86 carbon tubed bike built by TVT for mountain stages
753 was the top of the line in those days. I had a 753 for racing and a Reynolds 531 for training. Steel is real and the old Campagnola is classically beautiful. Tube mounted derailleurs were tricky. This bike belongs in a museum where we can all admire the art and quality.
Since it is so pristine and service parts are becoming increasingly rare, I say that it’s a shame that this bicycle is is being housed in some millionaires’ private hoarder house. It belongs in a cycling museum (probably in France) to be seen up close by the public.
Fabulous bike. I would be in my early twenties around then so really enjoy seeing these bikes in such immaculate condition. Looking forward to more in the series. There seemed to be a trend during that period with almost all the pro riders having the saddle nose-up. That is totally frowned upon by all the bike fitters today. I'd be interested to hear the results of some period research on what the thinking was back then, compared today
That white frame, polished aluminum gruppo, and red bar tape is stunning! The overall paint job really makes this bike beautiful. Would love to see polished gruppos make a comeback! But we would all have to keep our bikes clean….🤔
@@ralphc1405 did not seem to matter just time and miles on those old heat treated :) but state of the art at the time :) I used to own a bike shop in the 80s to early 90s was also a roady :) I still have my late 80s Rossin with some heat treated rims using DT spokes :) custom built by me as we used to do a lot of wheel builds :) even back then did some wood rims for some very old rebuild bikes etc... fun times !
Finally a nice Campagnolo equipped bike. One thing though Alex, those Look pedals are second gen. The original ones came out in '84 and were the white PP65s, which Hinault raced on in 1985 and Lemond the following year. Also those Cobalto brakes (with the cobalt stone) are the replacement of the ill-fated first gen Delta brakes that were recalled by Campagnolo. A placeholder if you will.. essentially a Super Record brake with a fancy lock nut. Also, just to help you out.. it's pronounced CHIN-elli mate, not SIN-elli. In Italian a single C makes a CH sound. cheers
Why, in God's name, am I one of only two people to have upvoted such a 100% spot-on & informative post from some 3 years ago now?! Everything that you wrote was/is perfect! Anyway, cheers & best wishes to you from 'Down Under', John...hope that you're still well & happy now, especially when so much has taken place upon this planet over the past 3-4 years, eh?! Matt.
@@lavielemond thanks man. I'm old enough to have raced Super Record when it was still in production (friction that is) and lived through the evolution of indexing. I still have my 93 Pinarello with full Ergo Record. But yeah, some times we have to straighten out these kids and their lack of knowledge. lol
These were the second edition LOOK pedals, the first editions were larger white bodied pedals. Hinault used them as prototypes (before that larger pedal went into production) in the 85 TDF. He teamed them up with blue Patrick cycling shoes.
Go to ebay, CL, (you name it), take some £/€/$ into your hands and spend it on a decent classic bike from the 80s or 90s. Renew all cables and housing, re-grease all bearings, put new tyres on, maybe a new chain, and off you go! Enjoy the ride.
The tolerances in even the finest screw-on freewheels back then were pretty open compared to today’s high-end integrated free-hubs. We actually had a tool that was specifically designed to inject a lightweight grease into the gap of the freewheel to ensure smoother, more quiet operation. We also used to overhaul the high end freewheels, replacing worn pawls, springs, and loose-ball bearings. If a single cog showed wear or the rider wanted a specific gear spread, we had a wall with individual cogs of every size from Campagnolo, Maillard, and Shimano…and many of them were interchangeable. It was a great time to work in a bike shop!
Nice bike. I recently been able to put back on the road my 1987 Vitus 979 mounted with Campagnolo Chorus groupset and Look pedals. Maybe i should submit it to your bike vault.
You can still have bikes custom made like this or to any variant your heart desires from a builder here in the USA. Bishop Bikes does amazing work and you should check it out on Flickr. He specializes in steel frames and has a talent I could only rate as 5 star.
Hey mate...thanks so much for your post from some 3 years ago now...I've been searching for a decent frame-builder (I'm located in Australia, btw) for awhile now & although I'm a fully qualified panel-beater (completed my 4-year apprenticeship at a Honda dealership during the mid-90s) & love welding (oxy fillet welding, MIG & TIG, etc), I wouldn't know where to start re: building a bike frame...so I may have to contact these guys soon, as I've owned a Columbus AIR tubeset (no 650 fork blades or the very rare teardrop-shaped seat post yet, unfortunately) for quite awhile now that I've long wanted to build up into a replica of Greg LeMond's famous Bottecchia TT bike that he rode in the '89 TDF, & with which he overturned a 50-second deficit to Laurent Fignon (RIP) to win by a mere 8 seconds...but a heart attack 2 years ago (aged only 48) & then a serious attack of viral encephalitis (that left me comatose for a week & hospitalised for a month) have very much sidelined my plans, not to mention much of my short-term memory & general motivation...but I'm just beginning to get back 'into the groove' of late, so I would LOVE to get cracking on this beloved project of mine! Anyway mate, thanks in advance for your time spent reading this, assuming, of course that you're still a) alive & b) a YT user?! Cheers & best wishes from (no longer so sunny, as it's now the first day of winter down here, dammit!) 'Down Under'...& take good care 'up there' in the States, bud...Matt.
It was all that most team leaders carried back then. Just get another from a teammate or the team car. For training, that’s what the center jersey pocket is for.
@@prestachuck2867 In '85, I had 2 water bottles already on my bike, and loads of pros had 2 also. All the pro frames I cam across during those days had 2 !
I thought it was gonna weigh less than that, I have a steel bike from 2010 with ultegra 6700 that is about 9kg, and only on ‘basic’ Reynolds 520. Must be the carbon for’ that makes the difference. Shows what a hard man le Blaireau was with that weight and the tiny gear range to drag around the Tour!
2010 Dura-Ace, Ultegra, and even 105 groupsets would be significantly lighter weight than C-Record, and most mid-tier to high end wheelsets from 2010 would also be lighter by a tremendous margin. Some Reynolds 520 frames (tig welded/lugless) from just 12 years ago are really more comparable in weight to the 531 frames of the 1980’s which were only marginally heavier than 753. The steel forks were definitely heavier for sure. And today’s high-end steel tubesets from Reynolds and TrueTemper (S-3) are as light as many carbon fiber frames. For example, my 2011 S3 steel Waterford R-33 with Record 11-speed groupo and alloy Campag Eurus wheels is the same weight as my 2020 Specialized Tarmac Pro Disc with Sram force eTap and carbon Rovals. I think the Waterford climbs better too. The only thing the Tarmac does better is braking control in wet weather, and turning heads. One of my old racing teammates from the 90’s recently decided that he was never going to race again and asked me if my steel bike was really as great as I’ve made it out to be. I assured him it was. He purchased a frameset just like mine and built it in Ultegra R8000. It’s a touch heavier than mine because of groupset difference and his frame is a couple of centimeters taller with a longer top tube, but same end user experience. He says it rides better and handles better than any of the carbon bikes he’s ever had, and if there’s a penalty on climbing, he cannot feel it.
That is a beauty! More videos like this please. I have a condor professional 753 with campagnolo chorus- only weighs 8.6kg, where’s the extra weight on this one come from?
13-19 and 52/42 chainrings, ouch my knees. Similar to what I used to ride 35 years ago and I certainly can't do it now. Also the San Marco saddle, I'm surprised a pro would have one because they weren't expensive at all. The groupset looks classy though especially the rear mech.
I raced on bikes like this in the '80s, and let's just say that bikes today are vastly better in every way.... The single worst thing back then though, that I never understood, was the damn Benoto plastic handlebar tape that practically everyone used. It had "zero" cushioning, "zero" grip (less than zero when wet) and was completely worthless for everything other than looking cool. Yet the vast majority of pro bikes used it. That bike was never actually ridden by La Vie Claire or Hinault, correct? I think if it was an actual team bike it would have had dual bottle mounts and I doubt even those epic pros rode with 13-19 straight blocks....
Will there be a feature of vintage pro bike that is modernized to keep up with the new weight standard of todays races? If so what can be included? Hope you make one.
That bike would still probably thrash today I mean absolutely kill climbs I would get a new bar and some new rims even though I like those super light rims and I mean you just have a killer
First gen C-Record did until they started to catastrophically fail and Campy recalled them and used the Cobaltos as an interim brake until they re-engineered the next gen Delta, which then had two more gens. So four generations all together.
Freewheel has bearings in it and threads on to a hub. A free hub uses a cassette of cogs which slide onto a 'free hub' that is all in one bearings-wise.
Nice bike indeed - the time when I got into cycling, Greg was (and still is) The Man. Small point, Cinelli is 'chin-elli' and the bars are 'cam-pe-ony del mon-do' - Italian nor French ;-)
Quand j'étais enfant les vélos du tour de France me faisait envie. Mais ce temps a changé, avec les bridages apportés par l'UCI et les connaissances enseignées par GCN les vélos de courses me paraissent dépassés.
Nice and in immaculate condition. However I prefer the Italiaans from that era (with the exception of the Eddy Merckx, but in fact that were also Italians...).l
Yes, Lemond won the tour in 86. Hinault rode the tour and some say tried to steal it from Lemond (after promising Lemond in 85 he'd help him win in '86).
Huhu I'm crying that I have this kind of bike😍😭❤️❤️🤙 /* but the specs of my bike is full set shimano 600 */ /* but the frame and the saddle are the same with his bike */
That's heavier than Thevenet's 1977 Tour winning Peugeot. No one remembers Jacques Esclassan winning the green jersey in 1977. The pugs were 8.75 kg. Reynolds 753, unavailable to the public buyer. PS. My PX10 mass-produced from 1977 is 10.00kg
What do you think of this vintage beauty? Let us know in the comments below!
It's stunning but needs riding.
It's just a sorrow to see this beauty without leather toe-strap pedals.
Technically, it's a FREEWHEEL sound check
a trick: watch movies at Flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies these days.
@Cesar Fernando yea, I have been using Flixzone for since november myself =)
I own the #13 frame set. It’s flawless and in the original box. I take it out every 5 years or so just to admire it. It is stunning.
A perfect child of its time, especially the Mondrian paint job. Wins every bike vault competition.
It would win Super Nice in bike vault on the Tech Show, but not on the app. I’ve noticed that in the app, no bikes with round frame tubes and shallow rims ever get a super nice, no matter how much more beautiful they are than all of the rebadged plastic frames and rims from China.
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I suspect that many of the app users never even watch the channel.
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Just look at the staggering number of bike vault submissions that feature the non-drive side of the bike and all of the bags and accessories still cluttering up the machine.
@@prestachuck2867 Perfectly put, Prestachuck!! Enough P's in a row for you there, btw, mate?!
Could watch retro recaps all day. A+ content
Amazing piece of art and history. I love this machine, the colors and the way it still looks more beautiful than the nowadays paintings.
That Campagnolo rear derailleur is just soooooo beautiful 😍😍
but the ball bearing run pulleys were just another example of Campagnolo over-engineering technology
I’ve been fortunate enough to have one of these. Bought it in 1987. 😊
It's shocking how much bikes have changed over the years. I was already an adult when this bike was new, it doesn't seem that long ago.
Those Rolls saddles in that covering are still my favourite
We miss you
That is a stunning bike! 😍😍
@Robby Sim Racer haha. I can put some on if you like?
@Robby Sim Racer it could be like James May building a bike and me instructing him
@@JonCannings Jon - DO IT !!
That's a blast from the past! I remember seeing Hinault and LeMond on that frameset back in the mid 80s riding in the Coors Classic. I saw them in Sacramento and San Francisco.
...the sound of Hinault freewheeling 3:49 (1980s style).
I loved this La Vie Claire team and bikes so much back in the mid 80,s that i also now have a team replica that i have built up. It is an absolute dream to ride and no matter how "great" people think "modern" bikes are.....nothing comes close to the pleasure and admiring looks and comments that i get when i ride such an iconic and stylish machine as this bike. Every mile is a smile :)
Those are Look SECOND generation pedals btw. The first ones I had were the white ones that were huge.
Absolutely stunning 🤩 can’t wait to see more of the collection in depth. Those water bottles are as rare as chickens teeth. I’m currently restoring and putting together an actual Greg Lemond team for the channel. Great content as always thanks and all the best Andy
looking forward to your next build!
Immediately subscribed to your channel upon seeing the work you do!
AHHHH FREHUB SOUNDCHECK thanks guys!
We Cycling nerds need it :)
Freewheel sound check*
Brings back memories of wishing for Campy group set. Was a local bike shop that had them in a case like jewelry.
I love these vintage looks! Keep them coming, please.
nice one guys. I reckon there should be a number plate hanger though just behind the headtube underneath the top tube. And those are actually the MKII Look pedals. The MKI Look pedals were white and a bit sharper on the edges.
They were beasts. Climbing in the Alps with a 13-19 cassette on a nearly 10 kilo bike!!!!!
And on a 42 chainring (the smaller one of the two) to boot. Beasts indeed....
@@albertogomes6262 Yep, that too!.
They had wider casettes than 13-19. They'd have swapped out to something easier for the alps.
@@pkelly20091 Correct, although 23 was the biggest sprocket they dared use for a very long time. Still no mean feat to climb with those ratios though.
Gear selection has indeed come a long way. In the very early years, it was a novelty (which then became the norm until the derailleur was invented), to have a back wheel fitted with two different size sprockets, one on each side of the wheel. At the bottom of a steep and long climb (like the alps), they would stop and turn the wheel around to use a lower ratio for climbing. Once at the top, they would repeat this procedure before descending to revert to their preferred racing ratio.
I would love to see their reaction if they could see today's Di2 system with a 12 sprocket cassette.... True pioneers those cyclists were!!!
@@albertogomes6262 The whole thing that surprised me the most about this bike isn't the weight but the horrible gear ratio and how uncomfortable it seems to be, mostly for those huge climbs in France! Now on my 2019 bike I have "Ultegra R8000 Di2, Hydraulic Brakes, 28mm tubeless, 11-34T cassette, 3.2mm Lizard Skin bartape, etc etc..." :o I would die to ride 4H on such old bike.
I was wearing my La Vie Claire jersey a bit over a week ago and rode past a family. Heard the woman say to her husband, "would you wear that?. HIs immediate response, "#$@% no..."
I turned around and waved and said you don't have to I will.
Plonkers these days.
Still have my La Vie Claire jersey too, and only wear it about once a year. It is going to be forty years old in a few years.
@@joelchoquette5674 I still have mine, sadly too many years of beer means only my son fits it now...
@@AndrewCleland1972 You can fix that problem.
Sorry are you referring to you and your warcraft friends that hang out in your moms basement?
Jersey in those days were a lot classier than now. La Vie Claire, PDM and my all time favourite Café de Colombia
Had this one since 1988. High School grad present Ill be riding my first L' Eroica with It this year. The difference is mine has Deltas and a Concor saddle. I never stopped riding it though. So it has plenty of " dings" and scrapes
The wrapping of the bar tape is master class.
Those are the bikes of my day! A nice reproduction. However you probably should have mentioned that the bike Hinault would have ridden, while not easily distinguishable with the naked eye, would have been quite different. He rode custom frames repainted in team livery. His frames tended to have slack seat tubes (71 to 72 degrees compared to the normal 74 of the time) and significantly longer top tubes. Also, he liked a slightly lower bottom bracket for stability on descents. I guess nowadays with space aged frames, the sizes are the sizes and everything must be adjusted with component adjustments. It's just as well. Hinault still would have been a winner on a stock bike. I think the custom thing was little more than a placebo.
You are right, these were used as a team spare bikes in the 1986 season
beautiful when bikes were bikes style, class la vie claire used this bike mainly on the flat, switching to the look KG 86 carbon tubed bike built by TVT for mountain stages
753 was the top of the line in those days. I had a 753 for racing and a Reynolds 531 for training. Steel is real and the old Campagnola is classically beautiful. Tube mounted derailleurs were tricky. This bike belongs in a museum where we can all admire the art and quality.
Incredible. My dream bike
Nice! Reynolds 753R too!
Super NICE!!!
👍👍👍 Downtube shifters! Rad to the power of 10.
What a beaut! BTW, 'Ci'....' from Italian is pronounced 'Ch', so it's 'Chin-elli' (as in the start of 'Ciao'!)
Never heard of Sinelli? InSane! 😜
is cock pronounced chock?
nono its ghinelli
Beautiful bike .Steel, the best for me. Classic 😃👍
Yup, steel is real!
Now that’s pretty! Canyon should take note of the pain scheme... would help to spruce up their range
I came to bring the PAIN SCHEME!!!
LOOK is still doing these colors on their bikes.
Beautiful!
There's something a bit sad about wheels and tyres that have never been ridden on.
Al's Toy Barn from Toy Story springs to mind ☹️
Agree; the bike and components were made to enable you to ride - not sit in a collection. A waste otherwise....
Well, there are nice new components for you to ride, this can stay in a collection to be preserved for the future.
Since it is so pristine and service parts are becoming increasingly rare, I say that it’s a shame that this bicycle is is being housed in some millionaires’ private hoarder house. It belongs in a cycling museum (probably in France) to be seen up close by the public.
@@prestachuck2867 Yet another phenomenally spot-on & truly erudite comment from you, Chuck...albeit some 3 years later now, re: my response!
A pure jewel.
Fabulous bike. I would be in my early twenties around then so really enjoy seeing these bikes in such immaculate condition. Looking forward to more in the series. There seemed to be a trend during that period with almost all the pro riders having the saddle nose-up. That is totally frowned upon by all the bike fitters today. I'd be interested to hear the results of some period research on what the thinking was back then, compared today
Gorgeous!
That white frame, polished aluminum gruppo, and red bar tape is stunning! The overall paint job really makes this bike beautiful. Would love to see polished gruppos make a comeback! But we would all have to keep our bikes clean….🤔
It’s actually a light gray frame color not white. The paint job looks so much better in person than in video or photos. They don’t do it justice.
@@ek8652 I know what you're trying to say when you say gray/grey but the colour is actually a pearlescent off-white, rather than grey...
Alex, Coke Cola was the bottle sponsor for the TDF and not just the La Vie Claire Team..
Used to pull the spokes out of those old heat treated rims all the time :) high tech for the day though
did they use 32 or 36? double butted or straight gauge?
@@ralphc1405 did not seem to matter just time and miles on those old heat treated :) but state of the art at the time :)
I used to own a bike shop in the 80s to early 90s
was also a roady :) I still have my late 80s Rossin with some heat treated rims using DT spokes :) custom built by me as we used to do a lot of wheel builds :) even back then did some wood rims for some very old rebuild bikes etc... fun times !
I have a set of those pedals (and every model since) in my garage
the original LOOKS were White. I had a pair in 85'
Still love the way those 13-19 blocks look
Not only correct but I am still using a set on my daily training bike.
When I started racing in 1974 we all used 5 speed freewheels!! Then someone brought out a six speed!!! Then a seven!! Etc etc.
@@merckxy54 yep. My First bikes were 5 speed. I remember us all being amazed when 6 came out and we were marvelling at the engineering
@MRGRUMPY53 the PP65 was the white one. Look made pedals for Shimano and Campagnolo until Shimano decided to make their own sometime in the 90s.
Finally a nice Campagnolo equipped bike. One thing though Alex, those Look pedals are second gen. The original ones came out in '84 and were the white PP65s, which Hinault raced on in 1985 and Lemond the following year. Also those Cobalto brakes (with the cobalt stone) are the replacement of the ill-fated first gen Delta brakes that were recalled by Campagnolo. A placeholder if you will.. essentially a Super Record brake with a fancy lock nut. Also, just to help you out.. it's pronounced CHIN-elli mate, not SIN-elli. In Italian a single C makes a CH sound. cheers
Why, in God's name, am I one of only two people to have upvoted such a 100% spot-on & informative post from some 3 years ago now?! Everything that you wrote was/is perfect!
Anyway, cheers & best wishes to you from 'Down Under', John...hope that you're still well & happy now, especially when so much has taken place upon this planet over the past 3-4 years, eh?! Matt.
@@lavielemond thanks man. I'm old enough to have raced Super Record when it was still in production (friction that is) and lived through the evolution of indexing. I still have my 93 Pinarello with full Ergo Record. But yeah, some times we have to straighten out these kids and their lack of knowledge. lol
These were the second edition LOOK pedals, the first editions were larger white bodied pedals. Hinault used them as prototypes (before that larger pedal went into production) in the 85 TDF. He teamed them up with blue Patrick cycling shoes.
The pedals are second generation Looks. The first generation where the much larger white pedals.
More vintage bike check ☺
I love Vintage Roadbikes, I really wish I had one
Go to ebay, CL, (you name it), take some £/€/$ into your hands and spend it on a decent classic bike from the 80s or 90s. Renew all cables and housing, re-grease all bearings, put new tyres on, maybe a new chain, and off you go! Enjoy the ride.
@@marcusathome Thanks for the advice sir! I really appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
I like that bike.
Beautiful bike! I’ll take it...
Cobalto because of the cobalt blue gem.
Super duper extra nice.
3:51 if they could make pleasant sounding hubs back then why must we put up with loud buzzing mess we have now?
The tolerances in even the finest screw-on freewheels back then were pretty open compared to today’s high-end integrated free-hubs. We actually had a tool that was specifically designed to inject a lightweight grease into the gap of the freewheel to ensure smoother, more quiet operation. We also used to overhaul the high end freewheels, replacing worn pawls, springs, and loose-ball bearings. If a single cog showed wear or the rider wanted a specific gear spread, we had a wall with individual cogs of every size from Campagnolo, Maillard, and Shimano…and many of them were interchangeable. It was a great time to work in a bike shop!
i'm having a bikegasm 🥰🥰😮😮😮🤤🤤🤤
Nice bike. I recently been able to put back on the road my 1987 Vitus 979 mounted with Campagnolo Chorus groupset and Look pedals. Maybe i should submit it to your bike vault.
How does a bike that preceded mine by 20 years still have a cooler freehub than me
You can still have bikes custom made like this or to any variant your heart desires from a builder here in the USA. Bishop Bikes does amazing work and you should check it out on Flickr. He specializes in steel frames and has a talent I could only rate as 5 star.
Hey mate...thanks so much for your post from some 3 years ago now...I've been searching for a decent frame-builder (I'm located in Australia, btw) for awhile now & although I'm a fully qualified panel-beater (completed my 4-year apprenticeship at a Honda dealership during the mid-90s) & love welding (oxy fillet welding, MIG & TIG, etc), I wouldn't know where to start re: building a bike frame...so I may have to contact these guys soon, as I've owned a Columbus AIR tubeset (no 650 fork blades or the very rare teardrop-shaped seat post yet, unfortunately) for quite awhile now that I've long wanted to build up into a replica of Greg LeMond's famous Bottecchia TT bike that he rode in the '89 TDF, & with which he overturned a 50-second deficit to Laurent Fignon (RIP) to win by a mere 8 seconds...but a heart attack 2 years ago (aged only 48) & then a serious attack of viral encephalitis (that left me comatose for a week & hospitalised for a month) have very much sidelined my plans, not to mention much of my short-term memory & general motivation...but I'm just beginning to get back 'into the groove' of late, so I would LOVE to get cracking on this beloved project of mine!
Anyway mate, thanks in advance for your time spent reading this, assuming, of course that you're still a) alive & b) a YT user?!
Cheers & best wishes from (no longer so sunny, as it's now the first day of winter down here, dammit!) 'Down Under'...& take good care 'up there' in the States, bud...Matt.
@@lavielemondsuerte
What I'm surprised about it, is the fact that it has only 1 bottle cage, and only 1 set of bottle cage screw holes on the frame 1
It was all that most team leaders carried back then. Just get another from a teammate or the team car. For training, that’s what the center jersey pocket is for.
@@prestachuck2867 In '85, I had 2 water bottles already on my bike, and loads of pros had 2 also. All the pro frames I cam across during those days had 2 !
Those aren't first generation LOOK pedals as mentioned. Those are a later more streamlined version.
I thought it was gonna weigh less than that, I have a steel bike from 2010 with ultegra 6700 that is about 9kg, and only on ‘basic’ Reynolds 520. Must be the carbon for’ that makes the difference. Shows what a hard man le Blaireau was with that weight and the tiny gear range to drag around the Tour!
2010 Dura-Ace, Ultegra, and even 105 groupsets would be significantly lighter weight than C-Record, and most mid-tier to high end wheelsets from 2010 would also be lighter by a tremendous margin. Some Reynolds 520 frames (tig welded/lugless) from just 12 years ago are really more comparable in weight to the 531 frames of the 1980’s which were only marginally heavier than 753. The steel forks were definitely heavier for sure. And today’s high-end steel tubesets from Reynolds and TrueTemper (S-3) are as light as many carbon fiber frames.
For example, my 2011 S3 steel Waterford R-33 with Record 11-speed groupo and alloy Campag Eurus wheels is the same weight as my 2020 Specialized Tarmac Pro Disc with Sram force eTap and carbon Rovals. I think the Waterford climbs better too. The only thing the Tarmac does better is braking control in wet weather, and turning heads.
One of my old racing teammates from the 90’s recently decided that he was never going to race again and asked me if my steel bike was really as great as I’ve made it out to be. I assured him it was. He purchased a frameset just like mine and built it in Ultegra R8000. It’s a touch heavier than mine because of groupset difference and his frame is a couple of centimeters taller with a longer top tube, but same end user experience. He says it rides better and handles better than any of the carbon bikes he’s ever had, and if there’s a penalty on climbing, he cannot feel it.
I was waiting to see those gear shifters in action.
When gears were gears
That is a beauty! More videos like this please. I have a condor professional 753 with campagnolo chorus- only weighs 8.6kg, where’s the extra weight on this one come from?
The first Look pedals were almost 500 grams per pair...
Have you seen the weight of a C record crankset?
13-19 and 52/42 chainrings, ouch my knees. Similar to what I used to ride 35 years ago and I certainly can't do it now. Also the San Marco saddle, I'm surprised a pro would have one because they weren't expensive at all. The groupset looks classy though especially the rear mech.
Can't believe he weighed the bike with the bottle attached. If the bottle was full of water, the bike is probably 600 grams lighter.
need a "gcn retro" channel.
Better than that carbon crap the sell today
I raced on bikes like this in the '80s, and let's just say that bikes today are vastly better in every way....
The single worst thing back then though, that I never understood, was the damn Benoto plastic handlebar tape that practically everyone used. It had "zero" cushioning, "zero" grip (less than zero when wet) and was completely worthless for everything other than looking cool. Yet the vast majority of pro bikes used it.
That bike was never actually ridden by La Vie Claire or Hinault, correct? I think if it was an actual team bike it would have had dual bottle mounts and I doubt even those epic pros rode with 13-19 straight blocks....
Bullshit
Truly, if I could have a single bike from the past pro teams, this would be it....
The size of that cassette! No wonder Hinault's knees were fu*ked!
Will there be a feature of vintage pro bike that is modernized to keep up with the new weight standard of todays races? If so what can be included? Hope you make one.
watch their video of the Willier 'Cutting Edge vs Classic Bike'
Belter of a bike I ride a modern day Look Huez they ride & Look superb
1985 bike, 1986 was the first bike with carbon fiber tube, KG86. LOOK pedals are a later model also
I like my Mavic SSC equipped KG86 more. Everybody does C-Rec on these.
Because this is a ‘Team Replica’ so has followed the correct spec of Greg LeMond’s bike in the 1986 Tour de France...
that year they also drove a look kg 86 on tdf
I ride a 1986 Schwinn Paramount. The 52/42 crank is original. The Chinese-made free-wheel is a 14-28.
Pretty well perfect, although it needs to be ridden
I ride a 7-speed today. Very ‘old school’ 😂
I’ve just seen this for sale. Just the frame and fork, for 400 usd in my country. Should I get it?
Makes me wonder how many 1000's of classic bikes are sitting in old garages collecting dust and forgotten.
I miss silent freewheels...we would use the Park Freewheel Buddy and inject them with grease to keep them smooth and silent. I miss Benotto tape too.
Is it true that Hinault was the first to use clipless pedals in TDF as a result of Look developing ski bindings ?
Yes. They were white. The pedals in that bike aren’t period correct.
Nice. Super nice 👍 brakes are the wrong way round though. 😋🤗
Mmm front brake on the left hand lever normally!
@@merckxy54 not in England. Right is front.
Nearly as light as modern day disc road bikes 😉
How small is that cassette????
Nothing against Alex because he is good presenter but... I miss the Jon Cannings enthusiasm about old cool bikes like this. Nonetheless 👍
That bike would still probably thrash today I mean absolutely kill climbs I would get a new bar and some new rims even though I like those super light rims and I mean you just have a killer
Didn't C-Record come with the Delta brakes?
First gen C-Record did until they started to catastrophically fail and Campy recalled them and used the Cobaltos as an interim brake until they re-engineered the next gen Delta, which then had two more gens. So four generations all together.
Look at that gear rang
What's the difference between a freehub and a freewheel?
Freewheel has bearings in it and threads on to a hub. A free hub uses a cassette of cogs which slide onto a 'free hub' that is all in one bearings-wise.
Nice bike indeed - the time when I got into cycling, Greg was (and still is) The Man. Small point, Cinelli is 'chin-elli' and the bars are 'cam-pe-ony del mon-do' - Italian nor French ;-)
Quand j'étais enfant les vélos du tour de France me faisait envie. Mais ce temps a changé, avec les bridages apportés par l'UCI et les connaissances enseignées par GCN les vélos de courses me paraissent dépassés.
Who actually made these frames, does anyone know?
Nice and in immaculate condition. However I prefer the Italiaans from that era (with the exception of the Eddy Merckx, but in fact that were also Italians...).l
Sinelli?
Look PP75s, that's a tribute to LeMond...
Yes, Lemond won the tour in 86. Hinault rode the tour and some say tried to steal it from Lemond (after promising Lemond in 85 he'd help him win in '86).
42/19 for the lowest gear!!! FML!!!
It's pretty but man, that gearing will give me knee pain for weeks
We raced on those gears without issue back in the day. My knees are fine. Still hammering 53-39 at age 56.
If you modernized those oldschool/vintage will it
Huhu I'm crying that I have this kind of bike😍😭❤️❤️🤙
/* but the specs of my bike is full set shimano 600 */
/* but the frame and the saddle are the same with his bike */
That's heavier than Thevenet's 1977 Tour winning Peugeot. No one remembers Jacques Esclassan winning the green jersey in 1977. The pugs were 8.75 kg. Reynolds 753, unavailable to the public buyer.
PS. My PX10 mass-produced from 1977 is 10.00kg
13-19 vs the Alps