Nice one Andy . I served my time building houses overhand . Up to lintel off dodgy g frames then Inside right up ti the top of the pikes , not fun but a useful skill to learn . Never heard of a Canadian . Always got something useful to say mate , cheers . Enjoy your break 🤙🏾👍🏽🧱😎
Nice one Andy and very interesting , I was watching some of those old Pathe news reel documentaries about house building in the UK after the war and some of the things are really interesting especially the bricklaying techniques.... cheers as always 👍
The london wide trowel seems to be very popular over here in ireland along with the Philadelphia pattern, i never really came across the london narrow over here, but i do like to alter between the london wide and philadelhia, but for some reason i always find the philadelhia to give a bit more of a cleaner finish on block work 😊 when house bashing lol😊😮
Alright Andy, Have you ever come across bricklayers by the names of Frank mckinley, Stephan Mumford,, Eddie Guy, and they had a mate Dougie cant remember his second name? I worked with Frank and steve in and around south london around Croydon years ago, i think Frank was from Stamford bridge area originally, them lads would be in there late 60s/70s now, they talked fondly about the 70s days around London and all the hard lads about the place back than they always mentioned Eddie Guy and his mate Dougie to be a right handful around the place back in the day 🤣🤣😎👌
Nice one. Mightily impressed you can read that without glasses mate ;-) Have a good one in Spain, we're off to Italy next week and it looks bloomin' hot there too!
Interesting! I think the wider Philadelphia trowel works well on a six inch bed. ie 140 blocks and stone work. London pattern more suited to 4 inch work in my opinion
Always used the 19-12 philidelphia trowels,I buy the biggest possible , purely so it last as long as possible ,as there so expensive nw, They only last 2/3 years before they get too small to clean the back of the cavities out, Cant get on with the london pattern,few mates use the 13 in The in fashion trowel at the mo is the ox Pro trowels, bit flimsy the ones I've picked up.. Been laying 38 yrs, think I'll always use the philidelphia pattern, I had a whs as an apprentice and hated it.
Interesting stuff andy . If you’ve ever backed a Philadelphia or a narrow London trowel of the same brand and blade length up to each other you’ll notice that they are for the most part the same shape . A Philadelphia is just a narrow London with the wings left on as i term it .
@@bricklayersworldwithandy6277 I’ve read a few American masonry union agreements online and they have all negotiated the exclusion of overhand work . It’s interesting the slight differences in the way different country’s go about the work . In Ireland we build concrete block houses overhand off trestles If there’s a brick elevation on the front of the house that’s done from the outside.
Brilliant stuff Andy. I used to you a Philadelphia pattern trowel when I worked in Australia. Did lots of overhand face work. Now use a lovely W Rose low lift wide London pattern. The best trowel I’ve used in 30 odd years walling. Low lift is much easier on the tendons. Rose trowel’s often get overlooked. I’d advise any bricky to give one a go. Subscribed
Never got on with low lift Rose but am aware of the benefits, we used to use MT 12 and 13 inch Phillys in Ozz in the 80s because of the pissy mud lol, first time I saw a Rose was 82, I worked with a bricklayer in Ozz who had a brother in Canada who sent them over to him.If you go back on my channel I have done a vid on Rose Trowel lifts, thanks for watching 👍
Im a bricklayer from Canada(15 years) and just recently heard of Canada pattern. I think it’s because whs makes them and the only trowel brands you see in Canada is either marshalltown or rose. I use a rose narrow London
I use a London narrow rose for face work changed from Mt cos the lift done my wrist and elbow. Only thing with it it's not the best for blockwork not big enough.
iv got the 3 copies of those books which were my dads , the hardback cover came in either blue/red/green i was told the book printers back then used the colour of which government was in power at the time of printing ?
Is there any truth in what I was told 30 odd years ago. Trowels are hardened on the right hand side of the blade hence when you have to tap use the right hand side of the trowel. Or is that bull. I was told that as a apprentice but never quite sure to believe it and only heard 2 people say it but if they were still alive they would be about 100 years old. 😀
Not anymore, but yes WHS and other British made trowels were hardened on the right and side to enable cutting bricks with the trowel easier. Left handed trowels were also made.
The Modern Bricklayer, most of it unfortunately not relevant to Brickwork these days but a great read if you are interested in how it was done and as a reference book.
Rose London trowel is about the best
I have Lived and worked in the Boston area . Most of the Was Union. I worked with a lot of bricklayers from England and Italy.
I have my grandfather's old Ross trial wide Hill
Nice one Andy . I served my time building houses overhand . Up to lintel off dodgy g frames then Inside right up ti the top of the pikes , not fun but a useful skill to learn . Never heard of a Canadian . Always got something useful to say mate , cheers .
Enjoy your break 🤙🏾👍🏽🧱😎
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Cheers for the shout out Andy. Hope it serves you well, as it has me 👍
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Nice one Andy and very interesting , I was watching some of those old Pathe news reel documentaries about house building in the UK after the war and some of the things are really interesting especially the bricklaying techniques....
cheers as always
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Thanks, I love the old films of the trade but there is surprisingly not that many, there is one very good one in Australia.
The london wide trowel seems to be very popular over here in ireland along with the Philadelphia pattern,
i never really came across the london narrow over here,
but i do like to alter between the london wide and philadelhia,
but for some reason i always find the philadelhia to give a bit more of a cleaner finish on block work 😊 when house bashing lol😊😮
Alright Andy,
Have you ever come across bricklayers by the names of
Frank mckinley, Stephan Mumford,, Eddie Guy, and they had a mate Dougie cant remember his second name?
I worked with Frank and steve in and around south london around Croydon years ago,
i think Frank was from Stamford bridge area originally,
them lads would be in there late 60s/70s now, they talked fondly about the 70s days around London and all the hard lads about the place back than they always mentioned Eddie Guy and his mate Dougie to be a right handful around the place back in the day 🤣🤣😎👌
Nice one. Mightily impressed you can read that without glasses mate ;-)
Have a good one in Spain, we're off to Italy next week and it looks bloomin' hot there too!
Lol, keep cool mate 👍
It seems that the majority of American bricklayers use a London pattern trowel, and the brits use a Philly patter?
Lol , yea seems that way.
Very good, enjoyed that 👍
Cheers Andy ...hope the heat hasn't been to much for ya...☀️
Might be next week in Spain lol, hit 50 c yesterday 🔥
Superb info as always Andy
Interesting stuff mate
read about this a few years ago also the wide london pattern comes from lancashirei
Interesting! I think the wider Philadelphia trowel works well on a six inch bed. ie 140 blocks and stone work. London pattern more suited to 4 inch work in my opinion
100% Sarah, I have a very old wide London pattern trowel which is also ideal for 6inch work, not that I go near them anymore 👍
Always used the 19-12 philidelphia trowels,I buy the biggest possible , purely so it last as long as possible ,as there so expensive nw,
They only last 2/3 years before they get too small to clean the back of the cavities out,
Cant get on with the london pattern,few mates use the 13 in
The in fashion trowel at the mo is the ox Pro trowels, bit flimsy the ones I've picked up..
Been laying 38 yrs, think I'll always use the philidelphia pattern,
I had a whs as an apprentice and hated it.
Interesting stuff andy . If you’ve ever backed a Philadelphia or a narrow London trowel of the same brand and blade length up to each other you’ll notice that they are for the most part the same shape . A Philadelphia is just a narrow London with the wings left on as i term it .
Yes, that does seem to be mate.
@@bricklayersworldwithandy6277 I’ve read a few American masonry union agreements online and they have all negotiated the exclusion of overhand work . It’s interesting the slight differences in the way different country’s go about the work . In Ireland we build concrete block houses overhand off trestles If there’s a brick elevation on the front of the house that’s done from the outside.
@@brickbybric Heavy blocks are always best layed overhand.
Brilliant stuff Andy. I used to you a Philadelphia pattern trowel when I worked in Australia. Did lots of overhand face work. Now use a lovely W Rose low lift wide London pattern. The best trowel I’ve used in 30 odd years walling. Low lift is much easier on the tendons. Rose trowel’s often get overlooked. I’d advise any bricky to give one a go. Subscribed
Never got on with low lift Rose but am aware of the benefits, we used to use MT 12 and 13 inch Phillys in Ozz in the 80s because of the pissy mud lol, first time I saw a Rose was 82, I worked with a bricklayer in Ozz who had a brother in Canada who sent them over to him.If you go back on my channel I have done a vid on Rose Trowel lifts, thanks for watching 👍
I agree I use the same best trowel I’ve ever used
Im a bricklayer from Canada(15 years) and just recently heard of Canada pattern. I think it’s because whs makes them and the only trowel brands you see in Canada is either marshalltown or rose. I use a rose narrow London
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I use a London narrow rose for face work changed from Mt cos the lift done my wrist and elbow. Only thing with it it's not the best for blockwork not big enough.
R W Rose 9 1/2 Narrow
iv got the 3 copies of those books which were my dads , the hardback cover came in either blue/red/green i was told the book printers back then used the colour of which government was in power at the time of printing ?
I've heard that mate, mine are red.
What is the book called
@@JTLM_48442 The Modern Bricklayer, I did name it in the Vid.
@@bricklayersworldwithandy6277 I was listening while driving didn’t catch it thx
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You ever use a pumpkin seed troul
Never used one but know what they are 👍
I use london wide
Nice 1 Andy mate.
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Great work as ever Andy 🇬🇧👍🏻 ...Spain next week is it ?
Yep😁👍
Always thought the Canadian pattern referes to the leather handle. Can't see another difference to any 19/11.
Me neither but no they did a Canadian pattern with a wooden handle short tang, no cap.
Is there any truth in what I was told 30 odd years ago. Trowels are hardened on the right hand side of the blade hence when you have to tap use the right hand side of the trowel. Or is that bull. I was told that as a apprentice but never quite sure to believe it and only heard 2 people say it but if they were still alive they would be about 100 years old. 😀
Not anymore, but yes WHS and other British made trowels were hardened on the right and side to enable cutting bricks with the trowel easier. Left handed trowels were also made.
Yes you could buy a left handed trowel or a right handed trowel with a tempered (hardened) cutting edge
hi what are these books called? i’m an apprentice coming up 2 months now and would love to get some
The Modern Bricklayer, most of it unfortunately not relevant to Brickwork these days but a great read if you are interested in how it was done and as a reference book.
Interesting stuff about the trowel i suppose these days its just preference Andy 👍👊🧱
Yes of course.