The one thing that really was an eye opener in this horrific story was not the psychopath husband and what he did and offered. Its the countless men who were interested in this and in the end participated in a crime like its just a nice little idea to drug and r* someone. Ordinary guys! And my theory is that a handful might have told buddies about it. Even these men did not report this to the police. There seems to be a massive issue with hate against women and toxic loyalty amongst men within modern society . This was totally new to me.
New? You've heard of gang rapes and rape as a war crime, yes? Heard of child sexual abuse perpetrated by close family members? NONE of this is new or unusual.
Millions of people ( men and women ) normalize this type of behavior through participation in porn … whether they are making it or watching it online …. People who you work with who are upstanding citizens…. I was married to a very intelligent, mild mannered / silver haired man (ex husband, now) who makes millions a year as a VP at the largest oil company in the world - he’s cosmopolitan/ tall / handsome / distinguished/ PhD … and a porn addict. It was an ongoing problem in our marriage. now that he’s retiring, he’s married a literal call girl who sought out executive types - she’s 25 years younger & looks like a porn star 😅… I’m not saying he would have participated in such a thing as what Ms. Pelicot’s husband did …. But gang rape, awful “ sex games “ like what she went through is Common to watch in the porn industry … this type of sex violence is normalized. Although I was shocked and disgusted/ heartbroken at how he left our marriage ( family ) I’m not saying I want him back -- it’s a MAJOR character flaw that cannot be corrected… what I’m saying is there are millions of people ( men and women ) who participate in this type of behavior by supporting the porn industry. If you saw my ex or worked with him - You would never have thought /,guessed he was a porn addict. It’s literally all he did was work - porn - workout - work - travel for work - porn - support call girls ( all over the world !) - work - porn - have dinner with me and the kids - porn. It was a huge part of his life. It becomes normal to them in their minds. He looks ridiculous walking around with much younger, obvious hooker type woman on his arm…. But this is life.
I’m curious as to was the husband advertising his wife as a gang bang/bukake thing or was it a rape/sexual fantasy thing? Either way, if you turn up and realise the wife is unconscious, and you don’t walk away in disgust, then you’re a sick, evil bastard.
Harsh prison sentences don’t fix crime, of this or of any other kind. They got the max under French law and mme. Pelicot didn’t complain. France should focus on making rape prosecutions more effective in getting convictions, not in reviewing sentencing.
@@fehyndana7725 There is no point in a sentence being higher than 25 years. After that it gets expensive and useless. The United States has one of the harshest systems in the western world and yet crime in America is ten times higher than in all of Europe. It´s not a deterrent to crime.
The one defense that gets me is saying that they didn't know they needed her consent because they had her husband's. Seriously? And it was also crazy how many of the defendants were out free before and during the trial. She's an amazing woman. All the men who abused her are garbage. I hope this case will prompt their laws to change for the better. It's overdue.
This is France’s system of justice against sexual harassment and assault, lots of Europe is behind modern ideas of consent, rape, age etc. & why she decided to go public because many women don’t get any justice or trial. America isn’t great at all, but we started the laws being change in some states& federally 15-20 yrs ago after some of our high profile criminal incidents. And for truly horrific incidents such as child abuse, torture, assault, US judges can def find ways to give more than 20 years 😢 It’s shifting the cultural mindset that men are responsible not women. This is happening everywhere.
@@traumflug the men were from a website called Without Her Knowledge. Please tell us again how the men could have assumed any form of consent? Apologists like you are why these horrible people go free. Shame on you.
Seriously what is wrong with these men? The idea that there were so many men who would do this is frightening. Madamme Pelicot is a hero for women's rights!
Those 30 others are waiting for that knock on their door, they are wondering every minute of the day if they will be recognized in public. Perhaps they don’t go out much anymore, stay isolated amongst the sex clubs scene
Yes! And would be cheered on ! Especially if Monsieur Peliocot could become a “ Christian “. Southern baptist / evangelicals love a baby Christian who is trying his best to be good.
@fanofbooks9 - As Giselle Pelicot said, she wanted the shame of this to change sides, and it's good for these men who participated to be forced to explain their behavior to their own sons and daughters...let them deal with the shame of their abhorrent actions!
Her husband‘s face should be shown in pictures all over the world! He is disgusting for what he did to his wife. I hope he rots in jail. Thank you for bringing this case forward. I hold you in high esteem.
I think the issue is that 20 years is the maximum under the law so legally that is all they could do. What needs to change is the law so that the number of years for this type of crime is higher.
Pelicot is 71 so it's a life sentence. It's like the joke about the guy sentenced to life and he says, your honor I can't do life and the judge says do as much as you can.
Smh. I’m glad they were found guilty. This exact thing happened in South Korea. A few wives were being drugged and gang r-ed and one wife saw a chat on the phone and that’s how that case blew. It’s not new.
Do you know the name of that particular Korean case? I'm Korean, but didn't know about it, but did hear about several similar cases in Singapore and a few other countries.
There was also a movie based on a book that is a true story called Women Talking about a Mennonite community in Bolivia where the men in the community were drugging and raping the women and girls in the community.
This case is both horrifying and deeply moving. Dominique Pelicot's actions and the trauma endured by his wife, Gisèle, expose the harrowing reality of sexual abuse that so many victims face in silence. Gisèle’s bravery in speaking out and making this trial about representing all victims is truly commendable. It’s a stark reminder of the importance of addressing these issues, supporting survivors, and ensuring justice is served. I hope this case inspires more people to raise awareness and stand against such atrocities.
Women need to pay attention. This isn't isolated. How many men would do this to there wife, girlfriend, daughter. It could be any man. Any of them. And the rest will stay silent. Just think if the police and the courts did their jobs, we would be seeing lots of this type of trial.
Of course blame the women. Why not men just don’t grape women, respect consent, don’t drug your wife. The grapist should have paid attention knowing the situation was wrong
It was done to me when I was taking a sleeping medication he knew I was out til morning. Occasionally I woke and he was attempting to take advantage of me. I think it happens more than we’d like to believe. Cameras in our bedrooms seems a bit much. But hey I’d feel safer. Thankfully I’m out of that relationship. He knows what he is.
Why is her husband only shown in drawings instead of showing his real face on so many of these media outlets. I notice this time and time again that the victims face is pictured and not the perpetrators.
The system and laws are written by men who want to protect grapist men not the women who are victimized.. this is what people mean when they say systems of oppression can work to protect oppression without bad actors working the levers.
Drugging women to rape them happens much more than you think. Gisele was 'lucky' that there was video evidence. Many, many more are not that lucky and get no justice.
@@CiaraPrinceit shouldn’t have to be presented as something that could happen to a woman you love or care about for it to matter to men.. men should be horrified by this happening to anyone.
Happy? Nobody is ever happy after going through a traumatic experience like this. the show is over and now she will have to truly come to terms with what happened to her and her daughter. she has to think about the men who wasnt identified and if they are her neighbors, friends, the guy at the bank? there is no happy. unfortunately its going to get worse for her. I hope she is surrounded by people who truly love and care about her because the PTSD from this will be major. Happy? No bittersweet? Perhaps
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing, if not people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
@@ujmmthey do that anyway though. Most serial killers have been in jail for 🍇 first and once they got out, they started ☠️🔪 their next victims! There wouldn't have been next victims if they'd never had been let out!
It's a crime in it's self that the maximum sentence for this crime is only 20 years. I hope the police also now charge him with the "upskirting" that he was engaged in when he came to the notice of the police. If they try hard enough I'm sure they will find lots more perverted behaviour he was engaged in
@@KatarinaS. I think they're horrified at the extra layer of insidious evil to have done this decades into their marriage during a time where most older couples would be settling into a peaceful retirement not crimes against their wife. It's terrible in any context. We all agree.
@chai_lattes I agree, it's just that this case makes me so angry. That poor woman. He's obviously very sick and twisted. It's hard to believe that anyone could do such a thing, especially someone she should've trusted above all else. I hope he gets his in prison.
20 years!?!? 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰You call that justice!?!?! 👿👿👿👿👿 What an insult to that poor woman!!!!! No Wonder it went on for so long!!!! Shame on France!!!! Men are held in too high a regard!!!!! Laws need to change!!!!!!!! Imagine if she'd not chosen to go public with this???? What would have happened then???!!! 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Probably the maximum sentence when no death is involved. HE is old so basically this means anyway the rest of his life. However he could be comign out earlier, for example if he gets sick, and kept confined to his home. It feels like beyond the jail time, which is a way to acknowledge that he should be separated from main society, the scope of the case should reflect also in the size of compensation to Mrs Gisele Pelicot.
GUILTY: Dominique Pelicot 72 ans Jean-Pierre Marechal 63 ans Joseph Cocco 69 ans Didier Sambuchi 68 ans Patrick Aron 60 ans Jacques Cubeau 73 ans Hugues Malago 39 ans Andy Rodriguez 37 ans Jean-Marc Leloup 74 ans Saifeddine Ghabi 37 ans Simoné Mekenese 43 ans Philippe Leleu 62 ans Paul Grovogui 31 ans Ludovick Blemeur 39 ans Mathieu Dartus 53 ans Quentin Hennebert 34 ans Patrice Nicolle 55 ans Husamettin Dogan 43 ans Cyrille Delville 54 ans Nizar Hamida 41 ans Redouane El Fahiri 55 ans Boris Moulin 37 ans Cyril Baubis 47 ans Thierry Postat 61 ans Omar Douiri 36 ans Jean Tirano 52 ans Mahdi Daoudi 36 ans Ahmed Tbarik 54 ans Redouane Azougagh 40 ans Lionel Rodriguez 44 ans Florian Rocca 32 ans Grégory Serviol 31 ans Abdelali Dallal 47 ans Adrien Longeron 34 ans Cyprien Culieras 44 ans Karim Sebaoui 40 ans Jean-Luc La 46 ans Christian Lescole 56 ans Thierry Parisis 54 ans Nicolas François 42 ans Cendric Venzin 44 ans Joan Kawai 27 ans Vincent Coullet 43 ans Fabien Sotton 39 ans Hassan Oamou 30 ans Charly Arbo 30 ans Cédric Grassot 50 ans Jérôme Vilela 46 ans Dominique Davis 45 ans Mohamed Rafaa 70 ans Romain Vandevelde 63 ans
He does loves the PEE DOUGH FILES, doesn’t he? Vince McMahon, now his wife. Matt Schlapp, mark Whitaker, Gaetz, etc…we could go on and on, unfortunately, but he does like to Stick with those of his own kind.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
No one is talking about the money exchanged. Tell me the husband didn’t charge these a$$holes. I’m sure they paid him for sex with his wife. I don’t get it
I don't think there was any evidence that money had been exchanged; otherwise the charge for the crime would not be just rape, it would likely have been upgraded.
Pennsylvania USA here... backing you....your a hero for all abused silent women all around the world... Women are not possession...we are human not cattle
Horrific atrocity. Over a decade, & by so many. An injustice to any who has been abused. Those involved who were caught, many who haven't deserve a longer sentence. I understand the max is 20yrs, a new precedent should be invoked to add the sentence
I can only echo what others in the comments field are saying. It is difficult to find words to adequately describe the horror I feel for what these despicable men have done. It is beyond sickening that so many men took part. And it is horrifying that the types of websites that enabled these men to communicate have gained in popularity after the trial started. Wtf is wrong with so many men? This type of lack of respect and hatred for women needs to be combated. Boys need to be taught better. Finally, I cannot imagine the courage and strength of Gisèle Pelicot. She is amazing. I hope women and girls everywhere can feel empowered by her actions in bringing these men to justice and standing up against her abusers.
In many cases they have a lower crime rate than the US The U.S. homicide rate was 10.5-7.9 per 100,000 population compared to Europe's less than 2 per 100,000. The U.S. rate for rape was approximately seven times higher than the average for Europe. United States robbery rates were approximately four times higher than those in Europe. And heres something else ... The United States came in at No. 47 out of the 89 countries ranked, down one spot from No. 46 in 2023. The following 10 countries are viewed as the safest, according to survey respondents.10 sept. 2024
@ what are you blabbering about? This man who tortured his wife with rape is getting less than he deserves is all I’m saying….and none of your statistics matter unless you can pull a study that shows me any evidence that states less sentence times CAUSES less offenses.
@@austina96 I agree with you (without blabbering) But your comment is not just saying the sentence was to light but that European courts are too lenient so there is a comparason on your part. Thus, the reason of my comment and the Stats posted. I think everyone agrees the sentence is too light.
Children are catching hell all over the world to. Don't bring babies into the world unless you are capable of protecting them. BUT Don't abort them either...adoption should be the 1st choice when a women couldn't wait until marriage to engage in sex.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
Dunno what to think, this is so disgusting, not human, yet people actually went with it ? What kinf of people can participate and staged such behavior ? There is no justice. Feel sick!
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
lol... this is marital rape...which was PERFECTLY legal in America until 1993. And with the ways the GOP is stripping women of rights is likely to be legal again very shortly.
I agree, it's absolutely horrifying that 20 years is the maximum sentence for this! I just hope this is finally the wakeup call France (and MANY other places) need. I'm not holding my breath for change, but I hope at least France will make progress.
He'll be very unlikely to see the light of day again, if that's what's bothering the earlier commentators. It's said that he is also under investigation for other matters.
My beautiful had a plaque in her hallway that said “ MARRIGE IS A MUTUAL MISUNDERSTANDING …BETWEEN TWO ADULTS “ ,,, it’s so sad that nobody ever really knows who they are marrying 😢
Call me a cynic but something about all of this smells. As a Brit i'm well aware of Fred and Rose west and this reminds me of it. The daughter thinks it happened to her. Post the trial the police believe her husband raped an estate agent and murdered another. Most likely he's committed other crimes. The fact she was totally unaware of " EVERYTHING" and the only reason police investigated her husband was because he filmed up womens skirts strikes me as really strange. If I were the police I would seriously think about digging up the house and surrounding area
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
Excuse me for asking an awkward question, everybody, but why is it that the ONLY person's face to be seen by the public of all those directly involved in the case, perpetrators and victim, is actually that of the victim herself (who bravely gave up her anonymity)? Does France have a policy (idiotic if so!) of protecting convicted criminals from being named and SHAMED?
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing, if not people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
They absolutely understand consent when it concerns them. They are not clueless, they just don't care.
Exactly!
exactly
Pure evil
ITS A HUGE PROBLEM BY CONTRACT "CONSENTE KNOCK3D OUT" AINT NO PRIVILEGE, HATS OFF TO GISELLE ❤STAND BY STAY TUNED 🎬
Congratulations to her and her bravery. I admire her strength and decided to not make it secretly
The one thing that really was an eye opener in this horrific story was not the psychopath husband and what he did and offered. Its the countless men who were interested in this and in the end participated in a crime like its just a nice little idea to drug and r* someone. Ordinary guys! And my theory is that a handful might have told buddies about it. Even these men did not report this to the police. There seems to be a massive issue with hate against women and toxic loyalty amongst men within modern society . This was totally new to me.
New? You've heard of gang rapes and rape as a war crime, yes? Heard of child sexual abuse perpetrated by close family members? NONE of this is new or unusual.
Spot on! Well stated! Men have a massive issue with sex and control.
Millions of people ( men and women ) normalize this type of behavior through participation in porn … whether they are making it or watching it online …. People who you work with who are upstanding citizens….
I was married to a very intelligent, mild mannered / silver haired man (ex husband, now) who makes millions a year as a VP at the largest oil company in the world - he’s cosmopolitan/ tall / handsome / distinguished/ PhD … and a porn addict. It was an ongoing problem in our marriage. now that he’s retiring, he’s married a literal call girl who sought out executive types - she’s 25 years younger & looks like a porn star 😅…
I’m not saying he would have participated in such a thing as what Ms. Pelicot’s husband did …. But gang rape, awful “ sex games “ like what she went through is Common to watch in the porn industry … this type of sex violence is normalized.
Although I was shocked and disgusted/ heartbroken at how he left our marriage ( family ) I’m not saying I want him back -- it’s a MAJOR character flaw that cannot be corrected… what I’m saying is there are millions of people ( men and women ) who participate in this type of behavior by supporting the porn industry.
If you saw my ex or worked with him - You would never have thought /,guessed he was a porn addict. It’s literally all he did was work - porn - workout - work - travel for work - porn - support call girls ( all over the world !) - work - porn - have dinner with me and the kids - porn. It was a huge part of his life. It becomes normal to them in their minds. He looks ridiculous walking around with much younger, obvious hooker type woman on his arm….
But this is life.
"Ordinary guys"? no - most of us are not rapists. Just as most blacks are not criminals. Most Asians aren't good at math. Etc.
I’m curious as to was the husband advertising his wife as a gang bang/bukake thing or was it a rape/sexual fantasy thing? Either way, if you turn up and realise the wife is unconscious, and you don’t walk away in disgust, then you’re a sick, evil bastard.
20 years it’s an insult. He deserves AT LEAST…LIFE IN PRISON!!
Not possible in French law. 20 years is the max sentence for 🍇
I wish western countries would punish it more harshly
He will probably due in prison
Harsh prison sentences don’t fix crime, of this or of any other kind. They got the max under French law and mme. Pelicot didn’t complain. France should focus on making rape prosecutions more effective in getting convictions, not in reviewing sentencing.
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@@fehyndana7725 There is no point in a sentence being higher than 25 years. After that it gets expensive and useless. The United States has one of the harshest systems in the western world and yet crime in America is ten times higher than in all of Europe. It´s not a deterrent to crime.
The one defense that gets me is saying that they didn't know they needed her consent because they had her husband's. Seriously? And it was also crazy how many of the defendants were out free before and during the trial. She's an amazing woman. All the men who abused her are garbage. I hope this case will prompt their laws to change for the better. It's overdue.
This is France’s system of justice against sexual harassment and assault, lots of Europe is behind modern ideas of consent, rape, age etc. & why she decided to go public because many women don’t get any justice or trial. America isn’t great at all, but we started the laws being change in some states& federally 15-20 yrs ago after some of our high profile criminal incidents. And for truly horrific incidents such as child abuse, torture, assault, US judges can def find ways to give more than 20 years 😢 It’s shifting the cultural mindset that men are responsible not women. This is happening everywhere.
garbage is the understatement of the century
predators
Psychopaths
the most compelling evidence for atheists to believe in the devil
etc
Only late last century a woman had control over her own body.
One would assume that if the husband says it's OK, he asked her before and forwards that correctly. It's not any male, but the husband, after all.
@@traumflug the men were from a website called Without Her Knowledge. Please tell us again how the men could have assumed any form of consent?
Apologists like you are why these horrible people go free. Shame on you.
Seriously what is wrong with these men? The idea that there were so many men who would do this is frightening.
Madamme Pelicot is a hero for women's rights!
FREEMASONRY [REWARD FOR HELPING OTHERS UP THE LADDER]
@@IliaKemp “These men?” No it’s men in general . Not all men but always men.
Men can quickly turn into psychopaths.
Not all men.. but perhaps the majority of them
You ain't seen nothing yet!
I’m horrified that the other 30 or so men who had not been identified are just living their normal life.
This happens all the time - every minute of every day - all over the world !
You sound like you've lived a very sheltered and self-righteous life.
Those 30 others are waiting for that knock on their door, they are wondering every minute of the day if they will be recognized in public. Perhaps they don’t go out much anymore, stay isolated amongst the sex clubs scene
@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUSyou sound like one of the 30
@ How self righteous of me to be disgusted by the fact that r*pists go unpunished. You must be one yourself
In the US he could run for president
Yes! And would be cheered on ! Especially if Monsieur Peliocot could become a “ Christian “. Southern baptist / evangelicals love a baby Christian who is trying his best to be good.
lol
Bishop or principal
Touché…
…twice
How many of those men were married and had kids? What a history to pass on to their families.
@fanofbooks9 - As Giselle Pelicot said, she wanted the shame of this to change sides, and it's good for these men who participated to be forced to explain their behavior to their own sons and daughters...let them deal with the shame of their abhorrent actions!
Where are the names and faces. They shouldnt remain unknown to the world
Let's see their faces, and their names.
We all know all of them were white men
@@fattinuggies3571They will not.
Her husband‘s face should be shown in pictures all over the world! He is disgusting for what he did to his wife. I hope he rots in jail. Thank you for bringing this case forward. I hold you in high esteem.
Bless Gisele, symbol of strength and perseverance for JUSTICE!!!! ⚖💪⚔
Sickening. I have no words. Twenty years isn't enough.
I think the issue is that 20 years is the maximum under the law so legally that is all they could do. What needs to change is the law so that the number of years for this type of crime is higher.
Pelicot is 71 so it's a life sentence. It's like the joke about the guy sentenced to life and he says, your honor I can't do life and the judge says do as much as you can.
After 20 years, they will Check If he would be still a Dangerous to the sociaty.
nope
@@kengy1991the law is written by men to protect men. That’s the problem
Smh. I’m glad they were found guilty. This exact thing happened in South Korea. A few wives were being drugged and gang r-ed and one wife saw a chat on the phone and that’s how that case blew. It’s not new.
Do you know the name of that particular Korean case? I'm Korean, but didn't know about it, but did hear about several similar cases in Singapore and a few other countries.
There was also a movie based on a book that is a true story called Women Talking about a Mennonite community in Bolivia where the men in the community were drugging and raping the women and girls in the community.
This case is both horrifying and deeply moving. Dominique Pelicot's actions and the trauma endured by his wife, Gisèle, expose the harrowing reality of sexual abuse that so many victims face in silence. Gisèle’s bravery in speaking out and making this trial about representing all victims is truly commendable. It’s a stark reminder of the importance of addressing these issues, supporting survivors, and ensuring justice is served. I hope this case inspires more people to raise awareness and stand against such atrocities.
Women need to pay attention. This isn't isolated. How many men would do this to there wife, girlfriend, daughter. It could be any man. Any of them. And the rest will stay silent. Just think if the police and the courts did their jobs, we would be seeing lots of this type of trial.
Not many men would do any of this sick stuff. The vast majority of men don't like thinking about another man with their wife/girlfriend.
Yup, can't trust em. 4B
Of course blame the women. Why not men just don’t grape women, respect consent, don’t drug your wife. The grapist should have paid attention knowing the situation was wrong
It was done to me when I was taking a sleeping medication he knew I was out til morning.
Occasionally I woke and he was attempting to take advantage of me.
I think it happens more than we’d like to believe.
Cameras in our bedrooms seems a bit much. But hey I’d feel safer.
Thankfully I’m out of that relationship. He knows what he is.
@@cidercik why are you blaming women?
No pictures of the creeps??!
They should never see the light of day
Twenty years is a joke 😢😢😢
Compared to what? The American legal system??
Especially considering they'll probably be out on parole in 5.
Compared to the heinous crimes
@@markzuckergecko621 Pelicot is 71 years old so almost anything is a life sentence.
It should be like a year.
Why is her husband only shown in drawings instead of showing his real face on so many of these media outlets. I notice this time and time again that the victims face is pictured and not the perpetrators.
Madame Pelicot is a very brave and dignified woman who has allowed her face to be shown because she knows that she has nothing to be ashamed of.
The system and laws are written by men who want to protect grapist men not the women who are victimized.. this is what people mean when they say systems of oppression can work to protect oppression without bad actors working the levers.
Because in France it is forbidden to record pics, videos or sounds during the audience. So the drawings are a kind of short cut...
@@_PKVC Yes. And this is for good reason, we're no longer in the mid ages.
Giselle Pelicot now has a life sentence of suffering. So should her husband.
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Amen!
Amen
Well said!!!!!!!
Giselle is a leader for young women. She puts the shame where it belongs: on the men. Thank you, Giselle!!!!
Her husband should get the Madoff sentence for something like this. Letting other men violate your own wife? Evil.
Why are men repeatedly saying "my/your sister" or "my/your mother" but otherwise "my/your *own* wife"??? Isn't that a part of the whole problem?
Drugging women to rape them happens much more than you think. Gisele was 'lucky' that there was video evidence. Many, many more are not that lucky and get no justice.
@@vaikloyes, words and meaning do matter … you are right.
@@vaiklo huh
@@CiaraPrinceit shouldn’t have to be presented as something that could happen to a woman you love or care about for it to matter to men.. men should be horrified by this happening to anyone.
Are you sure your husband is not up to this type of action? She had thought of herself for years as a happily married lucky woman.
This story is horrific. Her husband is a monster. What kind of man could do this to his wife? It's hard to even comprehend.
Gisele Pelicot should be named Person of the Year by Time or other publications -- versus Trump.
ABSOLUTELY 100%. But instead it’s Trump, an actual rapist.
Madame Pelicot is one for the ages.
@@DavidBaker-cx1ni my vote for international woman of the decade
She became role model for all survivors ❤❤
She looks happy now 😊😊
Happy? Nobody is ever happy after going through a traumatic experience like this. the show is over and now she will have to truly come to terms with what happened to her and her daughter. she has to think about the men who wasnt identified and if they are her neighbors, friends, the guy at the bank? there is no happy. unfortunately its going to get worse for her. I hope she is surrounded by people who truly love and care about her because the PTSD from this will be major. Happy? No bittersweet? Perhaps
Maximum sentence seems a bit light.
It should be 100 years
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing, if not people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
@@ujmmthey do that anyway though. Most serial killers have been in jail for 🍇 first and once they got out, they started ☠️🔪 their next victims! There wouldn't have been next victims if they'd never had been let out!
It's a crime in it's self that the maximum sentence for this crime is only 20 years. I hope the police also now charge him with the "upskirting" that he was engaged in when he came to the notice of the police. If they try hard enough I'm sure they will find lots more perverted behaviour he was engaged in
Like photos of his own daughter in lingerie and videos of his pregnant daughter in law in the shower?
Not one villain reported the husband to the police, not one! They all should get 20 years!
So the husband started inviting men to her in 2011, when they retired into a small town and when she was 59? That's sick.
Everything about what happened here is sick
So if it had happened in 1991 when she was 39 and they lived in a big city, it would've been acceptable?
@@KatarinaS. I think they're horrified at the extra layer of insidious evil to have done this decades into their marriage during a time where most older couples would be settling into a peaceful retirement not crimes against their wife. It's terrible in any context. We all agree.
@chai_lattes I agree, it's just that this case makes me so angry. That poor woman. He's obviously very sick and twisted. It's hard to believe that anyone could do such a thing, especially someone she should've trusted above all else. I hope he gets his in prison.
Donald Trump is one of them
so is ur dad
You can bet your bottom dollar this is not the only case..keep looking!
Yep, You ain't seen nothing yet!
20 years!?!? 😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰You call that justice!?!?! 👿👿👿👿👿 What an insult to that poor woman!!!!! No Wonder it went on for so long!!!! Shame on France!!!! Men are held in too high a regard!!!!! Laws need to change!!!!!!!! Imagine if she'd not chosen to go public with this???? What would have happened then???!!! 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Pelicot is 71 so it's a life sentence.
Probably the maximum sentence when no death is involved. HE is old so basically this means anyway the rest of his life. However he could be comign out earlier, for example if he gets sick, and kept confined to his home.
It feels like beyond the jail time, which is a way to acknowledge that he should be separated from main society, the scope of the case should reflect also in the size of compensation to Mrs Gisele Pelicot.
It is the maximum sentence under french law.
Katt Williams called it. It’s happening in all corners of the world
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stop
Called what?
@grapecheez2 “It’s up for all the Big-Dick-Deviants in the 24”.
GUILTY:
Dominique Pelicot
72 ans
Jean-Pierre Marechal
63 ans
Joseph Cocco
69 ans
Didier Sambuchi
68 ans
Patrick Aron
60 ans
Jacques Cubeau
73 ans
Hugues Malago
39 ans
Andy Rodriguez
37 ans
Jean-Marc Leloup
74 ans
Saifeddine Ghabi
37 ans
Simoné Mekenese
43 ans
Philippe Leleu
62 ans
Paul Grovogui
31 ans
Ludovick Blemeur
39 ans
Mathieu Dartus
53 ans
Quentin Hennebert
34 ans
Patrice Nicolle
55 ans
Husamettin Dogan
43 ans
Cyrille Delville
54 ans
Nizar Hamida
41 ans
Redouane El Fahiri
55 ans
Boris Moulin
37 ans
Cyril Baubis
47 ans
Thierry Postat
61 ans
Omar Douiri
36 ans
Jean Tirano
52 ans
Mahdi Daoudi
36 ans
Ahmed Tbarik
54 ans
Redouane Azougagh
40 ans
Lionel Rodriguez
44 ans
Florian Rocca
32 ans
Grégory Serviol
31 ans
Abdelali Dallal
47 ans
Adrien Longeron
34 ans
Cyprien Culieras
44 ans
Karim Sebaoui
40 ans
Jean-Luc La
46 ans
Christian Lescole
56 ans
Thierry Parisis
54 ans
Nicolas François
42 ans
Cendric Venzin
44 ans
Joan Kawai
27 ans
Vincent Coullet
43 ans
Fabien Sotton
39 ans
Hassan Oamou
30 ans
Charly Arbo
30 ans
Cédric Grassot
50 ans
Jérôme Vilela
46 ans
Dominique Davis
45 ans
Mohamed Rafaa
70 ans
Romain Vandevelde
63 ans
Merci pour avoir mis cette note.
If this were happening in today's USA, Trump would be planning to grant all the men involved full pardons.
agreed.
He does loves the PEE DOUGH FILES, doesn’t he? Vince McMahon, now his wife. Matt Schlapp, mark Whitaker, Gaetz, etc…we could go on and on, unfortunately, but he does like to
Stick with those of his own kind.
A few divorces accompany those 50 guys sentences. Some have daughters. Its All mind blowing😮
@carmenneumann9479 - that's the part that I don't understand...some have wives and daughters, yet they still participated in such an abhorrant crime!
20 years?!?! Not enough…
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
Why would this man ever be let out of jail? Reverse this and the woman would never be let out of jail.
Twenty years is not enough for what he did. Beyond disgusting!
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No one is talking about the money exchanged. Tell me the husband didn’t charge these a$$holes. I’m sure they paid him for sex with his wife. I don’t get it
I don't think there was any evidence that money had been exchanged; otherwise the charge for the crime would not be just rape, it would likely have been upgraded.
And this is the so-called First World....
"First World"
Pennsylvania USA here... backing you....your a hero for all abused silent women all around the world...
Women are not possession...we are human not cattle
Concerning Dominique Pelicot he is also involved in 2 cases of rape and murder in the 90's and will be judge for it.
Really? Wow. I wasn’t aware. Not surprised he might have committed other rapes. Murder as well?
Seriously? Where can I locate this information?
Horrific atrocity. Over a decade, & by so many. An injustice to any who has been abused.
Those involved who were caught, many who haven't deserve a longer sentence. I understand the max is 20yrs, a new precedent should be invoked to add the sentence
The betrayal of it all!
I can only echo what others in the comments field are saying. It is difficult to find words to adequately describe the horror I feel for what these despicable men have done. It is beyond sickening that so many men took part. And it is horrifying that the types of websites that enabled these men to communicate have gained in popularity after the trial started. Wtf is wrong with so many men? This type of lack of respect and hatred for women needs to be combated. Boys need to be taught better. Finally, I cannot imagine the courage and strength of Gisèle Pelicot. She is amazing. I hope women and girls everywhere can feel empowered by her actions in bringing these men to justice and standing up against her abusers.
Agree
I hope Madame Pelicot is feeling relieved. This must have been so grueling and painful for her to endure.
It’s amazing how arrogant some or all of those men are. They’re literally pissed that they now have to go to jail.
These European courts have the lightest sentences for the worst crimes👎
In many cases they have a lower crime rate than the US
The U.S. homicide rate was 10.5-7.9 per 100,000 population compared to Europe's less than 2 per 100,000. The U.S. rate for rape was approximately seven times higher than the average for Europe. United States robbery rates were approximately four times higher than those in Europe. And heres something else ... The United States came in at No. 47 out of the 89 countries ranked, down one spot from No. 46 in 2023. The following 10 countries are viewed as the safest, according to survey respondents.10 sept. 2024
@ what are you blabbering about? This man who tortured his wife with rape is getting less than he deserves is all I’m saying….and none of your statistics matter unless you can pull a study that shows me any evidence that states less sentence times CAUSES less offenses.
Europe is not as safe as it used to be in the last decades. Perhaps being tougher on crime will be necessary in the future.
He would have gotten less time in US we don't even test our rape kits
@@austina96 I agree with you (without blabbering) But your comment is not just saying the sentence was to light but that European courts are too lenient so there is a comparason on your part. Thus, the reason of my comment and the Stats posted. I think everyone agrees the sentence is too light.
Absolute monsters 😮😮
Yes I agree totally
I love the way Gisèle made it about all victims of sexual assaults not only women and she never said all men.
Children are catching hell all over the world to. Don't bring babies into the world unless you are capable of protecting them. BUT Don't abort them either...adoption should be the 1st choice when a women couldn't wait until marriage to engage in sex.
They are about to be on the receiving end of prison justice.
Joe will pardon them.
@@censorshipisreal3153 What are you talking about? Who is Joe?
@@ssarty1 wow are u truly that ignorant of who the current president is. Amazing.
@@censorshipisreal3153 This story is about France!!! What does the president of the USA have to do with France?!? You are the ignorant one!!!
@@censorshipisreal3153 I am not American and this story is about France!!!
Only 20 years???!!!
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
I absolutely believe the wrong husband can be the most dangerous
20 years????? Thats ridiculous.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
I am from South Africa and we have the same problems here
20 years only two thirds of which have to be served in jail… not enough for the scope and length of his crime.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
Only 20 years? That's the maximum sentence? They should get life in prison for what they did.
In France, life imprisonment is not possible if the victim does not die.
I couldn’t agree more
It’s unreal how one of the rapists said he was the real victim because he didn’t know he was being filmed. How messed up do you have to be?
Dunno what to think, this is so disgusting, not human, yet people actually went with it ? What kinf of people can participate and staged such behavior ? There is no justice. Feel sick!
PEOPLE didn't go along with it, MEN went along with it. It's a uniquely male-on-female crime.
More sickness is 9n the way. God is exposing
Men, obviously.
Sad there are creeps alike and those who so easily /likely would join.
First time I see Gisèle Pelicot smile, a smile of relief and beauty which reveals her beauty inside out!
It’s so scary knowing these men are also fathers 😢
How can you trust anyone now.
Unfortunately, women needs to be wary at all times.
SHAME ON YOU FRANCE! Shame on men.
in USA those kind of men can be elected president and in UK they are member of the court.
? You don’t have monsters where you live ?
Tf does this have to do with men?? They are just monster. Tired of this grouping all of a group with the monsters of said group.
Luigi Mangione, a Hero - probably 40, 100 or 200 years in prison, but r.a.p.i.st in France ONLY 20 YEARS?! WHAT? WHAT??
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
@@ujmm True. Seems that France and French men hates their own women. Jesus!
Too bad he can't be sent to an American prison...
lol... this is marital rape...which was PERFECTLY legal in America until 1993. And with the ways the GOP is stripping women of rights is likely to be legal again very shortly.
Rapists and pedos are treated the same in prisons worldwide. Besides he is 71 years old 20 years is a life sentence
Doesn’t matter how old you are. 20 years is never a “life sentence” and certainly not when only 2/3rd have to actually be spent in prison.
Just 20 years???????????
I agree, it's absolutely horrifying that 20 years is the maximum sentence for this! I just hope this is finally the wakeup call France (and MANY other places) need. I'm not holding my breath for change, but I hope at least France will make progress.
20 years???????!!! That’s gross. Where’s the petition? The protests?
20 years is a joke
Okay media. They’ve been found guilty. You can show their names and faces now. They all need to be shamed.
If only Dominique could get to the US.
Then join the gqp and run for potus.🙄
What disgusting individuals.
He'll be very unlikely to see the light of day again, if that's what's bothering the earlier commentators. It's said that he is also under investigation for other matters.
he is free in 15 years in france our disgusting justice dnt add cases consecutively ... he killed a girl but even he is guilty he will serve 20yrs
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My beautiful had a plaque in her hallway that said “ MARRIGE IS A MUTUAL MISUNDERSTANDING …BETWEEN TWO ADULTS “ ,,, it’s so sad that nobody ever really knows who they are marrying 😢
Didnt follow this trial enough to have an opinion. Hopefully justice was served.
Hundreds of rapes. Drugged over 10 year period by her husband. She didn't know.
Amateurs. Here in the US, we elect them as POTUS and give them admin jobs.
Yep, that was proven when Bill Clinton and Joe China became POTUS
😂😂😂
Just 20 years? Wtf
Call me a cynic but something about all of this smells. As a Brit i'm well aware of Fred and Rose west and this reminds me of it. The daughter thinks it happened to her. Post the trial the police believe her husband raped an estate agent and murdered another. Most likely he's committed other crimes. The fact she was totally unaware of " EVERYTHING" and the only reason police investigated her husband was because he filmed up womens skirts strikes me as really strange. If I were the police I would seriously think about digging up the house and surrounding area
ALMOST MAKES ME FORGET OF EPSTEIN....AND MAXWELL....AND DIDDY....AND STUFF THAT HAPPENS IN THE UNITED STATES......BUT....YEA
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Thank you Gisèle!
Bravo Gisele!
Should have run for president.
20 years? That is all? Pleeeeease! The court shows how little it values supporting women who have been sexually violated.
That is sadly the maximum for 🍇 in france
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
Excuse me for asking an awkward question, everybody, but why is it that the ONLY person's face to be seen by the public of all those directly involved in the case, perpetrators and victim, is actually that of the victim herself (who bravely gave up her anonymity)? Does France have a policy (idiotic if so!) of protecting convicted criminals from being named and SHAMED?
What an amazing woman! This American man applauds you!
Ditto from me too!
Only 20 years? America and Britain shouldve let Germany keep France ...
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing, if not people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
You think he’d get more time in the US? Probably wouldn’t even make it to trial like 90% of other rape cases.
This heartbreaking story esp for the woman… what he did is beyond shameful.
Only 20 years wtf
America made Trump President.
Diddy is on trial
Epstein gets to keep his list.
Wow glad I don't live in France. Those citizens must have to go out and get their own justice.
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
She was drugged for 20yrs?
20 years is definitely NOT enough
She probably would have been dead now If they risked much more than that though. Punishment for letting people live has to be significantly softer than for killing. If not, people have strong incentives to eliminate the only witness/evidence to the crime.
An amazing woman! ❤❤❤
My thought was... If each case could have been tried separately, then how many years would it have been in total for D. Pélicot.
With Love from America 🇺🇲. ❤❤❤❤
20 years is the maximum sentence.
Fr.Gisele eine mutige...selbstbewusste schöne frau❤
Okay, great - but where is my justice coming?
Bravo Giselle 🤍♥️🤍
Thank you so much!
Sending love
Evil himself will be shocked if he hears it😢
Shame on all those French nationals for what they did to that lady … A sad indictment on French culture